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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 29, 2022 21:23:05 GMT -5
Montreal Canadiens @ Minnesota Wild
*** Tuesday 1 November @ 8 PM ET ***
Networks: BSN, BSWI,
TSN2, RDS
 
 It's 3 goals in the 3rd for Dvorak
Montreal 7 @ St Louis 4
Box Score
2021-22 Upper Deck #583
Christian Dvorak
1966-67 Houston Apollos
Houston Apollos 1966-67 Serge Savard Carol Vadnais Bill Plager Rogatien Vachon
Norm Ferguson Lucien Grenier Jacques Lemaire Danny Grant
*Photo via VintageHockeyJerseys.net
20-21 Upper Deck #451 -
Kirill Kaprizov YG, RC
* Logos via Sportslogos.net / TSN.ca / Sportsnet.ca |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 30, 2022 7:39:42 GMT -5
Krill is pretty slick... the Wild are a big team... we need to learn how to play against teams that play big...
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 30, 2022 17:08:01 GMT -5
Krill is pretty slick... the Wild are a big team... we need to learn how to play against teams that play big... Are you promoting inserting Drouin into the line up?  I'm assuming the line up will not change given win over the Blues but a lot of guys had weak games: Hoffman, Pizza, Evans. On D, the rookies X, Guhle and Harris all struggled. Maybe we could put Drouin back there - I'm sure that's why MB was prepared to give up a dman like Sergechev |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 30, 2022 17:23:34 GMT -5
Krill is pretty slick... the Wild are a big team... we need to learn how to play against teams that play big... Are you promoting inserting Drouin into the line up? I'm assuming the line up will not change given win over the Blues but a lot of guys had weak games: Hoffman, Pizza, Evans. On D, the rookies X, Guhle and Harris all struggled. Maybe we could put Drouin back there - I'm sure that's why MB was prepared to give up a dman like Sergechev The main reason some of the kids struggled, IMO, is that the transition game sucked, so we spent a lot of time in our end. Why was it bad? I don't have the tapes, but there were a lot of changes in personnel and maybe the timing was off with players not being where they should be, or being there a tad too late or too early. AS the game went on, that got better, but it was a very loose game. The Blues are an aging team. Twelve players are 29 years of age or older. They don't have anyone really aged, but that's a lot of guys right around the age where the cliff they're skating on gets steeper. Doug better draft well. (One of his key talent evaluators, son Bill, isn't there anymore). |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 30, 2022 18:35:31 GMT -5
Krill is pretty slick... the Wild are a big team... we need to learn how to play against teams that play big... Are you promoting inserting Drouin into the line up? Absolutely... I love watching him avoid contact and I love watching dadanov and Hoffman float around like butterflies... watch wideman and savard screw up and have rookies bail them out... I love all of that |
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Post by folatre on Oct 30, 2022 19:27:44 GMT -5
Savard played good hockey this week. He is, obviously, miscast on a first pair logging 22-23 minutes a night. But I really have no complaint with what he brings to the table. Guhle seems comfortable with him.
Wideman is ideally a #7 depth option because he is not a legit answer as a puck-mover or power play quarterback, and he lacks the size/strength to partner on a defensive third pair that can weather dump and chase, cycle, and d-zone starts. But until some vets (Matheson and Edmundson) return from injury or Barron proves to management that he is too good to play in the AHL, then I suppose Wideman stays in the lineup.
I am sure guys like Drouin, Pitlick, and Dadonov will get additional looks but I do not see what the hurry is. Heavy opponents are lacing up the skates this week; and it is not really fair to judge guys like Armia and Pezzetta on one game. Also, having skilled non-producing vets in the bottom six probably tempts coaches to give them power play time, which keeps Slafkovky off the power play. Whereas if the fourth liners are dudes like Pezzetta and Armia, the likelihood of Slafkovky getting power play shifts improves.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 31, 2022 5:44:58 GMT -5
The problem with playing big, heavy teams is not the lack of size, but lack of determination by half the team.
Hoff, Dandy, Drouin are wallflower and CC/SUZUKI should not even try.
The upside is we don't care if they lose.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 31, 2022 16:34:27 GMT -5
I am sure guys like Drouin, Pitlick, and Dadonov will get additional looks but I do not see what the hurry is. Heavy opponents are lacing up the skates this week; and it is not really fair to judge guys like Armia and Pezzetta on one game. No it isn't fair. I'm judging Pezzetta on 52 games worth of work. We'll always need some form of energy and hitting on the team, but hopefully with a higher level of skill. In any case there's no need to make changes in the near future and perhaps he will improve as he adjusts to the faster speed of the NHL game. |
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Post by folatre on Oct 31, 2022 17:24:56 GMT -5
I guess it depends on what management/coaching staff is looking for from fourth liners. Pezzetta has 5 goals (11 points) in 52 games and brings energy/physicality while costing the league min. Hockey is debatable, but I see little value in having skilled, low-energy vets playing 10 minutes a night.
I am not sure if Pezzetta can improve his handle and passing a whole lot. And I am certainly not sure if I would want him in the lineup next season. Eventually kids who are not sure fire top six talents have to break into the big club and cut their teeth against NHL competition. So the fourth line could by 2023-24 see a rookie or two as regulars.
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Post by Polarice on Nov 1, 2022 7:18:10 GMT -5
Habs are having problems with teams the play the neutral ice trap. The keep trying to dump and chase, which don't work because the opposing forwards slow down the Habs forwards so the defence can get to the puck first. Or the Habs forwards try and cause turnovers in the neutral zone, both are difficult to do.
I think this game will come down to special teams....best Powerplay wins.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 1, 2022 13:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 1, 2022 16:09:21 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 1, 2022 17:50:27 GMT -5
Riff for raff but at least pezz works hard... prefer pezz and pitlick |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 1, 2022 19:18:06 GMT -5
Wideman is just dumb
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Post by Skilly on Nov 1, 2022 19:27:45 GMT -5
To say Gallagher has a muffin of a shot is an insult to muffins
Panes of glass do not fear his shot
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Post by folatre on Nov 1, 2022 20:05:36 GMT -5
Gallagher is moving well this season, but man it just takes so many prime scoring chances on his stick to result in a goal.
Allen gives up an unnecessarily juicy rebound and some plug puts in the back of the net.
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Post by folatre on Nov 1, 2022 20:39:57 GMT -5
After a good first period the boys sort of relaxed and stopped playing smart hockey. It would have been nice to get a power play goal to get back in the game.
Not that it really matter all that much, but Rossi's blade was above his own shoulder when he made the initial touch.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 1, 2022 21:08:15 GMT -5
MA Fleury is not that good, and we always manage to make him look like he is the best goalie on the planet. Drives me nuts
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Post by Skilly on Nov 1, 2022 21:21:16 GMT -5
Gallagher has got to be traded. He misses more great scoring chances than any player in the league
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 1, 2022 21:47:35 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Nov 1, 2022 21:49:22 GMT -5
For sure, Skilly. Gallagher wasted three or four 4 Grade A scoring chances tonight.
I do not blame him for his contract. That is 100 percent exclusively Marc Bergevin's fault. Unfortunately, he became untradeable the day he signed the contract.
I hate to see Evans fighting there. His heart was in the right place and it shows he is good teammate but with his concussion history that was not smart. Pitlick did not even bother to grab anyone or even show a pulse, let alone a mean streak. Minnesota has been a chippy team since Evason became their coach. I would have had Pezzetta on the fourth line tonight. And looking ahead to Thursday, Winnipeg plays heavy.
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 1, 2022 23:33:08 GMT -5
Was it a clean hit? Probably. Should Slafs be ready for that? Probably. But give the score is 4-1 with minute to go and Rossi knows Slafs is just dumping the puck it sure was a cheap shot on an unsuspecting player. Slafs will have ample opportunity throughout their careers for some pay back. |
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 1, 2022 23:35:30 GMT -5
Funny. I thought the boys played much better tonight than the Blues game. Allen not so much.
Dach had a good game and may be a good fit on Suze's wing. Didn't miss Hoffman. But has Monahan been watching Hoff and Drouin cause he sure looks like their triplet.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 2, 2022 0:19:24 GMT -5
MA Fleury is not that good, and we always manage to make him look like he is the best goalie on the planet. Drives me nuts Except when the stakes are big. Then, he folds like the best origami. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 2, 2022 0:23:40 GMT -5
Minnesota has been a chippy team since Evason became their coach. I would have had Pezzetta on the fourth line tonight. And looking ahead to Thursday, Winnipeg plays heavy. Me too. I may think he can be improved upon (even 4th lines have to be a bit productive), but he probably would have done something in this game. Was Wifi held back? I missed the game. |
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 2, 2022 1:18:53 GMT -5
Minnesota has been a chippy team since Evason became their coach. I would have had Pezzetta on the fourth line tonight. And looking ahead to Thursday, Winnipeg plays heavy. Me too. I may think he can be improved upon (even 4th lines have to be a bit productive), but he probably would have done something in this game. Was Wifi held back? I missed the game. Wifi wanted at the goof but refs wouldn't let him. What pissed me off is Evanson put the goof out there on the PP with a minute to go in a 4-1 game. He had to know he was a marked man. Refs should have said, if you put him out here, don't look to us to protect him. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 2, 2022 1:45:54 GMT -5
Chris Lee…the name whose mere mention sends Habs fans’ blood pressure skyrocketing.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2022 7:30:59 GMT -5
Chris Lee…the name whose mere mention sends Habs fans’ blood pressure skyrocketing. Can someone pull a Tonya harding on this guy and be done with him? |
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Post by jkr on Nov 2, 2022 7:45:56 GMT -5
As has been mentioned in this thread, this is the way the Wild play now. The way to discourage it is to dress guys like Pezzeta, not softies like Drouin and Pitlick. And, if they take liberties, then go after Kaprizov and their other skill guys.
I only saw the highlights. Why was the play where Rossi touched it with a high stick not called back? Referees can review these types of plays now.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2022 8:08:04 GMT -5
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