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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 10, 2022 20:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 11, 2022 16:36:21 GMT -5
Sutter called out the refs after the Laffs game so I expect a parade to the box for the Habs
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Post by jkr on Dec 11, 2022 22:13:00 GMT -5
I dont blame Sutter for his comments. Flames had 2 PP chances, Leafs had 6 including a dodgy one in OT.
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Post by habsorbed on Dec 12, 2022 0:50:32 GMT -5
Flames have been under achievers given all the hype going into the season. Treliving was being hailed as the great saviour as "managing" to restore his strong squad after it had lost Gaudy and trading Tkachuk. Unfortunately Hubey and Kadri aren't as advertised, and I don't see either contract aging well. If we're upset about what MB left HuGo, it pales with what the Flames have until the end of this decade.
Having said that, Flames are better than us now. So as always if Suze and Cole are not on their game, we lose and even then.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 12, 2022 1:21:59 GMT -5
Kadri is actually playing really well. He's the genuine article. Huburdeau seems to be having a rebound to last year. He hasn't just lost it, so I expect some sort of regression to the better part of him. The Flames goaltending has been inconsistent. Markstrom is no where near where he might be. We know from out own experience how hard it is on a team when the goaltending is weak.
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 12, 2022 8:48:56 GMT -5
Kadri grew up a Habs fan so you know he will be pumped for this, he might even have family from London at the game.
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Post by habsorbed on Dec 12, 2022 10:57:57 GMT -5
Kadri is actually playing really well. He's the genuine article. Huburdeau seems to be having a rebound to last year. He hasn't just lost it, so I expect some sort of regression to the better part of him. The Flames goaltending has been inconsistent. Markstrom is no where near where he might be. We know from out own experience how hard it is on a team when the goaltending is weak. Kadri has the worst plus/minus on the team and a measly 21 points in 28 games. Not sure that's playing really well, given that's about his career points per game avg. Other than last year, playing behind MacKinnon, he has never come close to a point per game. He's a second line centre at best. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 12, 2022 12:08:44 GMT -5
My comments were based on the games I've seen him play. He was consistently doing good things and playing hard. It seems like a curse has descended on some NHL teams this year and Calgary is one of them (so is Florida, yahoo!).
Last year was a career year for Kadri and I was never expecting him to put up those numbers again. He is a very good 2C on a contender and, on some teams, is good enough to be their 1C. There's never any lack of effort or fear of going to hard areas with Kadri. If not for his age, I'd take him any time on my team.
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2022 13:02:58 GMT -5
There are various reasons the Flames are underachieving. And certainly one is the lackluster play they are getting in net. Markstrom has been poor.
Calgary is a veteran team right now. Who knows where they will be on the performance curve in 2025. It may turn out that Hughes was prescient in wrangling a first round pick from them when their window to win may have already closed (though to be honest, I cannot even recall all the strange conditionality involved in that trade).
The boys have been coming out of the gate slow. That could be a problem against a desperate team that has probably circled this game as two points that cannot be left on the ice.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 12, 2022 15:16:58 GMT -5
Calgary is a veteran team right now. Who knows where they will be on the performance curve in 2025. It may turn out that Hughes was prescient in wrangling a first round pick from them when their window to win may have already closed (though to be honest, I cannot even recall all the strange conditionality involved in that trade). It is indeed convoluted and difficult to know how exactly to hope things pan out. The first part is not that difficult. Montreal has the option of the 2025 pick or Calgary's 2024 pick if it falls between 20 and 32. I'm not going that route. First, it's not looking like the 2024 draft is a sparkling one and picks from 20 on are a bit of a crap shoot. After that it gets too confusing for my poor mind to follow. I'd need a flow chart and I believe someone has actually produced one. I did like one of the scenarios, where Calgary could end up with the first overall 2025 (or 2026; it really is confusing) pick and habs could end up with a pick from 2-10, which I presume would be Florida's. Do not bother trying to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm confused enough as it is.  I'm just hanging my hat on the fact that in 2 years, both Florida and Calgary will be worse off than they are today. |
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2022 17:50:25 GMT -5
Seventeen, yeah, I went over the CapFriendly and read through the trade and it sounds about as convoluted to me as it did a few months ago. I think you have it right that Montreal will not accept the guardrails put on the pick for 2024. It makes far more sense to push it out to 2025 and see what happens. The ideal scenario seems to be Calgary and Florida both being like lottery-level (bottom 10) bad in the 2024-25 season. There is just so much season to season variability in the NHL that it is hard to feel confident such a scenario will unfold. However, I am relatively confident that neither team profiles to be serious contenders. Setting aside the ideal scenario, it sounds as though it will be better to hope both teams are just kind of meh rather than one of them being brutal and the other really good.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 12, 2022 18:47:42 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Dec 12, 2022 19:04:31 GMT -5
The game is on the full Sportsnet network so no need for 2 remotes tonight 😃
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Post by Skilly on Dec 12, 2022 19:41:21 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 12, 2022 19:41:54 GMT -5
Michael Pezzetta ... CHAPEAU!!
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Post by Skilly on Dec 12, 2022 20:18:55 GMT -5
That whole sequence with Caufield getting rocked was the result of Suzuki and Hoffman getting cute with back hand no look passes. Someone has to decide to shoot and preferably before they get a forechecked on them ... Mr Suzuki
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2022 20:22:25 GMT -5
Yeesh Dach, I like wanting to defend Caufield after Lewis nailed him. But, come on, get your money worth there. That was a silly love tap. No point in going to the sin bin for a softish response. It figures the Flames get the power play goal.
Nice to see Xhekaj giving Coleman the business. Without Lucic dressed tonight, Coleman and the rest of the troops do not seem too interested in messing with the Sherriff.
For sure, Pezzetta handed the NCAA newcomer his lunch.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 12, 2022 20:25:58 GMT -5
Not much activity here. Flames just scored on a PP.
A chaos chain set off by that Moron, Mike Hoffman. He makes an incredibly stupid back pass that a Flame picks off and counters. That leads to Caufield getting accidentally steamrolled by Lewis, which leads to Dach going ‘after’ Lewis which leads to a Hsb penalty and a Huburdeau goal. Lets hope Caufield isn’t hurt or that would be the trifecta. I’d be benching him.
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2022 20:27:34 GMT -5
Frickin' eh, now or never.
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2022 20:29:42 GMT -5
Armia on a 5 on 3? Okay, how many goals does he have this season?
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Post by seventeen on Dec 12, 2022 20:32:49 GMT -5
Habs not disguising passes well enough as Markstrom is reading everything. Maybe, as Skilly says just shoot from an unexpected spot.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 12, 2022 20:33:58 GMT -5
Armia on a 5 on 3? Okay, how many goals does he have this season? Yeah. Inexplicable. Showcasing? 😂😂😂 |
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Post by Andrew on Dec 12, 2022 20:34:09 GMT -5
Armia on a 5 on 3? Okay, how many goals does he have this season? My reaction every time I see Armia out there on the PP. youtu.be/StIcRH_e6zQ |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 12, 2022 20:34:18 GMT -5
The 5 on 3 is pretty useless without Caufield... two wide open sides missed. When we have to use Armia on a 5 on 3, you know we are screwed
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Post by folatre on Dec 12, 2022 20:35:35 GMT -5
A lot of skill available to have the 30th ranked power play one-third of the way through the season. Is there a system or tactics problem?
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 12, 2022 20:36:47 GMT -5
The 5 on 3 is pretty useless without Caufield... two wide open sides missed. When we have to use Armia on a 5 on 3, you know we are screwed Tank tank tank |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 12, 2022 20:39:12 GMT -5
The 5 on 3 is pretty useless without Caufield... two wide open sides missed. When we have to use Armia on a 5 on 3, you know we are screwed Tank tank tank If that's the main goal, then put Caufield on IR. Or bench Suzuki every second game. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 12, 2022 20:44:59 GMT -5
Geez. That certainly didn't look like Suzuki hit Kadri very hard.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 12, 2022 20:46:45 GMT -5
Incidental contact, but it did have head contact. I guess they have to call it. Don’t like seeing guys going down.
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Post by Andrew on Dec 12, 2022 20:48:40 GMT -5
This is a a dumpster fire of a game with the parade to the penalty box. Hope Cole is ok. Habs will be unwatchable if the first line scoring dries up.
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