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Post by CentreHice on Apr 27, 2024 21:59:28 GMT -5
Turned up the volume for the Bob Cole tributes and the post-game. Matthews under the weather for some reason, and didn't play the third. Friedman heard reports of "food poisoning".
Some kind of "upheaval" on the bench with about 1:00 left in the second--between Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. Marner threw his gloves. The panel liked Nylander's response: "Just play!"
Back to MUTE.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 27, 2024 22:09:57 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2024 6:15:18 GMT -5
The best comment- they're down 2 with 3 minutes to go. Why does Keefe have Reaves on the ice? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 28, 2024 7:26:16 GMT -5
The best comment- they're down 2 with 3 minutes to go. Why does Keefe have Reaves on the ice? Because no one else is doing anything? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 28, 2024 7:32:01 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2024 8:32:33 GMT -5
I didn't watch the game but did anyone talk about Nylander's offensive struggles lately? I looked at his game log on ESPN. If I read it correctly he has not scored since March 26th, a stretch of 12 games if you include last night and only has 4 points in that period. Fans seemed optimistic about his return but he hasn't contributed much lately. And then there is that clip from the TB game that Willie posted a couple of days ago.Awful. www.espn.com/nhl/player/gamelog/_/id/3114736/william-nylander |
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2024 8:42:53 GMT -5
Not a good look for Fox. He's been Mr. glass half full forever. Now he's ticked? If he couldn't see what was wrong here then he needs to change his occupation. |
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Post by franko on Apr 28, 2024 8:58:25 GMT -5
my favourite "line from a Leaf fan":
One time many years ago I tried to cook seafood paella. I gave myself such bad food poisoning that I puked into my own lap while having diarrhea.
Watching this team tonight has reminded me of that experience. Repeatedly.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 28, 2024 15:17:45 GMT -5
Watching the Avs game and Lehky is on the 1st PP and he sets up a PP goal parked in frint of the net, the Avs must be very happy with that trade...
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 28, 2024 16:09:45 GMT -5
Listening to Gary Galley and he's cheerleading for the Jets... I don't ever recall that goof cheerleading for the Habs regardless who they play...
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2024 16:20:32 GMT -5
Avs win 5-1. Despite their talent I did not foresee Colorado scoring this many goals against the best defensive team in the league.
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Post by folatre on Apr 28, 2024 18:27:40 GMT -5
Colorado is playing super hungry after the sting of losing in the first round last spring. And when your roster includes two guys among the five best players in the league, plus Rantenen who would be among the top 10-15 on most hockey observers' rankings, being pissed, uber talented and fast can break down a system type team like Winnipeg. Hellebuyck has not been sharp, but there are a lot of additional problems to pick apart: special teams in this series have almost been as lopsided as the Boston-Toronto series, aside from game 1 the goals have dried up for the Jets, and frankly some Jets' blueliners (Schmidt, Samberg, etc.) are just not fundamentally sound defenders and others are slow plodders.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 28, 2024 18:36:23 GMT -5
Colorado is playing super hungry after the sting of losing in the first round last spring. And when your roster includes two guys among the five best players in the league, plus Rantenen who would be among the top 10-15 on most hockey observers' rankings, being pissed, uber talented and fast can break down a system type team like Winnipeg. Hellebuyck has not been sharp, but there are a lot of additional problems to pick apart: special teams in this series have almost been as lopsided as the Boston-Toronto series, aside from game 1 the goals have dried up for the Jets, and frankly some Jets' blueliners (Schmidt, Samberg, etc.) are just not fundamentally sound defenders and others are slow plodders. And Lekhy is a playoff guy... reminds me of Nystrom |
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2024 18:39:22 GMT -5
Neither Demko or DeSmith are dressed for Vancouver. It's Silovs in goal for the Canucks.
Vancouver only had 12 shots in the previous game. With 9 minutes to go in the 3rd they are trailing 3-1 and have just 14 shots,
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2024 19:03:55 GMT -5
Dramatic end to the 3rd. The Canucks score 2 with the goalie out, the 3rd goal coming with 8 seconds left. All 3 Canucks goals from Boeser. Off to OT
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2024 19:29:13 GMT -5
Lindholm scores about 1 minute into OT to complete the comeback. Canucks lead 3 games to one after using 3 goalies so far.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 28, 2024 20:18:39 GMT -5
That Canucks win is why the first round is so awesome. Cool story for the Latvian kid’s first playoff start and win, and even more fun watching it in a watering hole in Victoria where the crowd went wild.
I look forward to a future with meaningful spring Habs games again in a few years.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 28, 2024 20:20:46 GMT -5
Colorado is playing super hungry after the sting of losing in the first round last spring. And when your roster includes two guys among the five best players in the league, plus Rantenen who would be among the top 10-15 on most hockey observers' rankings, being pissed, uber talented and fast can break down a system type team like Winnipeg. Hellebuyck has not been sharp, but there are a lot of additional problems to pick apart: special teams in this series have almost been as lopsided as the Boston-Toronto series, aside from game 1 the goals have dried up for the Jets, and frankly some Jets' blueliners (Schmidt, Samberg, etc.) are just not fundamentally sound defenders and others are slow plodders. Yeah, the wheels have totally fallen off for the Jets. Good for our other first round pick, not as much for our only second round pick 😆 |
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Post by folatre on Apr 28, 2024 22:50:47 GMT -5
I have noticed some interesting signings in the off-season (half the league is just grinding for a better future).
Philly gave a guy with four or five poor appearances in the NHL a two year deal with a $3.275 AAV. To be fair, the Flyers are between a hard place and a rock because Carter Hart is not coming back in 2024-25 and the Russian held the leverage that he would have been a UFA this summer (i.e. back to the KHL where he was really good in a somewhat smallish sample size or potentially to another NHL that likes his size/game. Anyway, my takeaway would be that Philly is a club in the East that could take a step backward in the coming season.
What about a rangy stay at home d-man with fewer than 100 games in the league (Vlasic in Chicago) getting 6 years/$4.6 per? I bring this case to our attention because it could have impact on the Habs if management is eager to sign Guhle to something longish-term. From my vantage point, the young Habs d-man has outperformed Vlasic, though not significantly, over their brief careers; moreover, I would not hesitate to say Guhle has a higher ceiling provided he can wise up and stay healthy. I doubt GMs with a young d-man with Guhle's profile love Davidson tossing around this type of AAV for a kid without much on his resume (Kevyn Adams did the same for another big stay at home guy, Samuelsson, without any real on ice performance to justify it). Do 'comparables' like these mean that Hughes should be proactive and get Guhle locked up long-term (say, 8 years/$42 million) or does management see better roster-construction value in bridging him next summer?
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 29, 2024 14:14:41 GMT -5
Hard to imagine a more disastrous era for the Leafs. They draft Auston Matthews in 2016. Over the course of the next 8 seasons, Matthews becomes one of the most prolific scorers of his generation with 368 goals in 562 games for a full season average of 54 goals. Adjusting for the shortened seasons in 2019/20 and 2020/21, Toronto averages 104 points over those 8 years and tops 110 points 3 times.
If you had told me that as a Leafs fan in 2016 I would have taken it. Surely, there would be several deep playoff runs in that stretch and maybe even a Cup or Finals appearance?
Nope. A grand total of 1 playoff series win in 8 years. Every other season one-and-done.
What a massive disappointment. And now you can see the era is basically over. They are about to get beat by Boston for the third time in 8 years and it's not even competitive.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 29, 2024 14:36:00 GMT -5
I don't get the love for Matthews, he scores in the regular season, big deal... he has been a playoff ghost for 8 years, he's the highest paid guy on the team, he's supposed to be a leader but all the team does is lose. Marner is brutal and so is the D corps but imo the core 4 on the leafs are as soft as a s'more marshmallow... they shoukd be called the s'more fore
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 29, 2024 14:36:25 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 29, 2024 17:35:39 GMT -5
The leafs media machine is running on overtime right now
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 29, 2024 17:36:27 GMT -5
Hakstol fired by Kraken
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Post by folatre on Apr 29, 2024 17:41:36 GMT -5
I am not saying that Matthews delivers on a nightly basis in the playoffs, but the guy is clearly the best goal scorer to come into the league since Ovechkin. Sixty-nine goals is insane. I would be happy to have him in Montreal.
I think the issue is Matthews is just not demonstrative and intense enough to light the fire under other dudes. I was talking to my Leafs brother in law on Sunday and he was saying the problem is the core guys (Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Reilly) all have the same personality and basically they are all just wired the same way.
What if Matthews was the best player on a team where the other top dogs were Mark Stone and Pietrangelo?
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Post by seventeen on Apr 29, 2024 19:55:26 GMT -5
It kind of explains why Ryan O'Reilly chose to sign somewhere other than TO. Did he notice something there about the culture, personalities, etc.?
There is no denying Matthews' ability to score. What's harder to pin down is what set off red flags for me and that's the record of the teams he's been on.
WJC - two years, one bronze medal
Swiss National League - first place finish in regular season, ousted in first round of playoffs
NHL - Seven years in the playoffs, 6 losses in the first round, one year making the second round. In the 8th season, may be eliminated in 5 games, but in fairness may be playing hurt and foolishly chased 70 goals in the final 2 weeks of the regular season rather than preparing for the playoffs. Keefe can share in that error.
Are these all coincidence and the fault of management for not building a team rather than a collection of talented forwards, or has it something to do with Matthews?
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 29, 2024 20:49:05 GMT -5
Matthews is not a winner and is not a leader, you dont pay a guy 13.5M if he's not a leader
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 29, 2024 20:50:06 GMT -5
Woohoo the Bolts are done... love it
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Post by jkr on Apr 30, 2024 8:09:13 GMT -5
It kind of explains why Ryan O'Reilly chose to sign somewhere other than TO. Did he notice something there about the culture, personalities, etc.? There is no denying Matthews' ability to score. What's harder to pin down is what set off red flags for me and that's the record of the teams he's been on. WJC - two years, one bronze medal Swiss National League - first place finish in regular season, ousted in first round of playoffs NHL - Seven years in the playoffs, 6 losses in the first round, one year making the second round. In the 8th season, may be eliminated in 5 games, but in fairness may be playing hurt and foolishly chased 70 goals in the final 2 weeks of the regular season rather than preparing for the playoffs. Keefe can share in that error. Are these all coincidence and the fault of management for not building a team rather than a collection of talented forwards, or has it something to do with Matthews? Maybe Matthews is one of those players that gets you to the playoffs but not through the playoffs. The problem is that the Leafs core , as folatre alluded to, is guys like that, They get them there but don't know what to do once they are in the fight. Treliving's attempt to inject grit by signing Reaves is laughable. There is too much belief by Toronto management that goal scoring talent will succeed in the playoffs even if your net minding is average and your defence mediocre. It fails every season but this stubborn belief continues. When next season starts they will have four forwards making 46 million, more then half the cap. If they want to continue believing this method works then I am happy to watch them fail every season. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Apr 30, 2024 8:14:32 GMT -5
I think it is a given that if the Leafs lose tonight, the coach is gone. Will he be the only one exiting? All the leafs with big contracts have NMC, so it is going to be hard to get rid of one unless they want to leave.
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