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Post by Andrew on Nov 15, 2023 14:13:42 GMT -5
I hate the offside review even though it benefited us. If the goal comes immediately off the rush and it was an obvious bad call then I get it but if it’s close enough to being onside then I can live with it. Hockey is a flow game and while the offside rule is clear, you also have to let the refs be human especially if it’s a close call. Agreed. There's nothing worse than seeing a team's bench huddled around an ipad after a seemingly good goal. Disruptive to the flow of game. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 15, 2023 14:28:27 GMT -5
What a useless powerplay... tired of this Saperlipopette costing them games I don't understand the circling with the puck so far away from the goal. The odds of anything going in from that distance is nil. I'm guessing they're trying to create space, but it's a dumb way to do it. The puck has to be closer to the goal and it has to move...fast. That's how you create space and time, by making defenders go one way and then reversing it quickly so they can't recover. You can circle close to the blue line all you want, the other team isn't coming out of their box or diamond. They'll just watch you circle and kill time all by yourself. Utterly stupid. Passes through the Royal Road are good too, and we don't see our PP trying much of that. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 15, 2023 14:54:00 GMT -5
The problem is the guy in the middle, cannot be behind or beside the net, he has to be in front of the net or in the middle moving north or south depending where the pk box is... this player must have a high hockey IQ... not Anderson or newhook... Monahan or Suze
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Post by Cranky on Nov 15, 2023 15:00:55 GMT -5
For the third decade, I'm now settling down to NO expectations and a lot of shrugging.
Meanwhile the Booins fell, rised, won a cup, fell and rised again.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 15, 2023 18:12:18 GMT -5
I hate the offside review even though it benefited us. If the goal comes immediately off the rush and it was an obvious bad call then I get it but if it’s close enough to being onside then I can live with it. Hockey is a flow game and while the offside rule is clear, you also have to let the refs be human especially if it’s a close call. If there was no video review, what you'll get is what they had before. Anything close gets whistled down, and you'll have a plethora of onsides being called offsides The reason hockey is a flow game is because the linesmen are now not calling anything close and leaving it up to the teams to decide if they want to challenge. It's only once a game. That tells you how often they actually ARE offsides and it's not being called. |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 15, 2023 18:15:33 GMT -5
So they put Pierre Turgeon into the Habs Ring of Honour. Why?
He played just over one season, did not win any playoff series, scored 127 points and was captain when they moved from the Forum to the Bell Centre.
This is ring worthy?
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Post by seventeen on Nov 15, 2023 18:17:36 GMT -5
For the third decade, I'm now settling down to NO expectations and a lot of shrugging. Meanwhile the Booins fell, rised, won a cup, fell and rised again. They haven't stolen, oops I mean won a cup since 2011. It's truly amazing how they can put together this kind of record without a boatload of talent. Oh, they have MacvAvoy and Pastrnak, but they also have a bunch of average guys and some below average guys. Goaltending is slightly above average IMO, not elite despite what the pundits say. We showed that Swayman is just a guy and Ullmark is ok, but no Price. Somehow, they puck goes in for them and they must have a good structure which avoids beating yourself. I also think, from what I've seen, that they work their butts off. And, once again, when the playoffs roll around and EVERYONE is working their butts off, that no longer becomes an advantage and the lack of enough talent takes over and they won't go anywhere. Not much in the way of injuries so far, either, but several teams have been lucky in that regard. Will it last the whole season? What happens if Pastrnak gets hurt? |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 15, 2023 18:22:10 GMT -5
So they put Pierre Turgeon into the Habs Ring of Honour. Why? He played just over one season, did not win any playoff series, scored 127 points and was captain when they moved from the Forum to the Bell Centre. This is ring worthy? Heard a podcast on that. The thinking was that if you make the Hall of Fame, you get a huge leg up on getting on the Ring of Honour. The guys then had fun trying to think of players who are Hall of Famers but who played almost no role in Montreal, getting on the Ring of Honour. Ilya Kovalchuk was the first guy recommended. 22 games with us.  |
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Post by Cranky on Nov 15, 2023 19:54:43 GMT -5
Booins have a cup and are contenders,
Meanwhile Habland fans are living on hopium and copium.
But I know what is important...Molson Habs are worth 1.5 BILLION so mission accomplished.
(Yeah, I'm tired of this and negative.)
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Post by Skilly on Nov 15, 2023 20:14:37 GMT -5
So they put Pierre Turgeon into the Habs Ring of Honour. Why? He played just over one season, did not win any playoff series, scored 127 points and was captain when they moved from the Forum to the Bell Centre. This is ring worthy? Heard a podcast on that. The thinking was that if you make the Hall of Fame, you get a huge leg up on getting on the Ring of Honour. The guys then had fun trying to think of players who are Hall of Famers but who played almost no role in Montreal, getting on the Ring of Honour. Ilya Kovalchuk was the first guy recommended. 22 games with us. Kovalev Perry Next thing you know we will be putting Sergachev up there |
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 16, 2023 0:48:00 GMT -5
Heard a podcast on that. The thinking was that if you make the Hall of Fame, you get a huge leg up on getting on the Ring of Honour. The guys then had fun trying to think of players who are Hall of Famers but who played almost no role in Montreal, getting on the Ring of Honour. Ilya Kovalchuk was the first guy recommended. 22 games with us. Kovalev Perry Next thing you know we will be putting Sergachev up there Imagine if Casey DeSmith wins 3 Cups and we put him up there, having spent a few hours in the organization.  As for Turgoen, I appreciate he didn't do much time with the Habs but he was our captain (check), and he did lead the Habs in scoring one year (check), and that year was the 3rd best year of his Hall of Fame career (check).  Also when you haven't won a Cup in 30 years, you need to dig a little deeper to find things to celebrate.  |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Nov 16, 2023 8:13:01 GMT -5
Pierre Turgeon is not a HOF player.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 16, 2023 10:41:27 GMT -5
The building was pretty quiet after they ran the replay on the Jumbotron ... not sure what to say about the game ... Calgary seemed to have a more controlled game ... not as many bouncing pucks, or lost edges, which seemed to plague the Habs, at times, tonight ... I don't think I've ever seen a more frustrated crowd in Montreal, as I did tonight ... you should have heard the place when Cole Caufield blew a tire that led to the Flames 2-on-0 ... the Habs ran into a hot goaltender, too ... it happens, as Josh Anderson can attest to ... all this is to say, while the Habs had their chances, I thought Calgary was the better team, tonight ... Cheers. Too bad they didn't get the win for you Dis... hope you and Mrs. Dis had a great time in Montreal It wasn't a total loss ... Mrs. Dis and I hit the Peel Pub after the game to sample some Montreal fine dining ... Cheers.  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 16, 2023 10:55:07 GMT -5
Heard a podcast on that. The thinking was that if you make the Hall of Fame, you get a huge leg up on getting on the Ring of Honour. The guys then had fun trying to think of players who are Hall of Famers but who played almost no role in Montreal, getting on the Ring of Honour. Ilya Kovalchuk was the first guy recommended. 22 games with us. Kovalev Perry Next thing you know we will be putting Sergachev up there Anything is possible, Skilly ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 16, 2023 13:50:05 GMT -5
Too bad they didn't get the win for you Dis... hope you and Mrs. Dis had a great time in Montreal It wasn't a total loss ... Mrs. Dis and I hit the Peel Pub after the game to sample some Montreal fine dining ... Cheers. View AttachmentClassic mon ami |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 16, 2023 13:59:38 GMT -5
Heard a podcast on that. The thinking was that if you make the Hall of Fame, you get a huge leg up on getting on the Ring of Honour. The guys then had fun trying to think of players who are Hall of Famers but who played almost no role in Montreal, getting on the Ring of Honour. Ilya Kovalchuk was the first guy recommended. 22 games with us. Kovalev Perry Next thing you know we will be putting Sergachev up there Now you're talking! |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 16, 2023 14:00:30 GMT -5
Pierre Turgeon is not a HOF player. Details Schmetails. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 16, 2023 14:01:25 GMT -5
Kovalev Perry Next thing you know we will be putting Sergachev up there Anything is possible, Skilly ... Cheers. Don't forget to put M.D. after his name. |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 16, 2023 16:12:08 GMT -5
Kovalev Perry Next thing you know we will be putting Sergachev up there Imagine if Casey DeSmith wins 3 Cups and we put him up there, having spent a few hours in the organization. As for Turgoen, I appreciate he didn't do much time with the Habs but he was our captain (check), and he did lead the Habs in scoring one year (check), and that year was the 3rd best year of his Hall of Fame career (check). Also when you haven't won a Cup in 30 years, you need to dig a little deeper to find things to celebrate. Remember when we all poked fun of Toronto for celebrating the 50th year of their last Cup We've become the Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 16, 2023 16:40:20 GMT -5
Booins have a cup and are contenders, Can't argue with them having a Cup but having your opponent lose their top 3 LHD's before meeting them and having a 1B centre like Kesler playing on a wrecked hip gave them huge advantages. Did they win a Cup? Yes. They did not earn it though, but regardless, are they really a contender this year? They were even better last year and got taken out in the first round. They are a solid 96-100 point team that will likely fall flat in the playoffs because every team ramps up its effort and Bruins won't have anything extra in the tank. |
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Post by jkr on Nov 16, 2023 17:50:49 GMT -5
Turgeon had great career numbers- over 500 goals and 1300 pts and close to a PPG player in the playoffs. I think that gets you to the HOF.
Trading him to the Blues was one of Houle's worst deals getting back Corson & Murray Baron.
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Post by folatre on Nov 16, 2023 18:04:50 GMT -5
Turgeon was a magnificent player and he had a terrific career. But Turgeon barely played 100 games in the bleu, blanc et rouge, so the Ring of Honour thing seems rather contrived.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Nov 17, 2023 9:30:45 GMT -5
Turgeon was a magnificent player and he had a terrific career. But Turgeon barely played 100 games in the bleu, blanc et rouge, so the Ring of Honour thing seems rather contrived. More appropriate for a tangent of honour really. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Nov 17, 2023 13:49:35 GMT -5
Turgeon was a magnificent player and he had a terrific career. But Turgeon barely played 100 games in the bleu, blanc et rouge, so the Ring of Honour thing seems rather contrived. Hey, seeing lots of discussion on the ring of honor and thought I would clarify things. If any player that goes into the HOF and they played with the Canadiens for any stretch of their career, their name and photo goes on the ring of honor and name is listed in the dressing room. So yes, you might see Kovalchuk up there one day. |
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Post by folatre on Nov 17, 2023 20:43:59 GMT -5
Tank, thanks, that is useful to understand and I did not know it.
But man the Ring of Honour is created by the club and the 'rules' are decided by the Canadien. So I guess what I find very odd is why the organization wants to potentially end up with guys who had a short run or a cup of coffee with the Habs up there in the ROH. I would rather Turgeon not be there but it is okay I guess, but I would find it outright absurd to see Kovalchuk there.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 17, 2023 23:21:42 GMT -5
So yes, you might see Kovalchuk up there one day. ? ... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 17, 2023 23:26:07 GMT -5
So yes, you might see Kovalchuk up there one day. ? ... He who shall not be named?? |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 18, 2023 14:02:55 GMT -5
Turgeon was a magnificent player and he had a terrific career. But Turgeon barely played 100 games in the bleu, blanc et rouge, so the Ring of Honour thing seems rather contrived. More appropriate for a tangent of honour really.  |
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