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Post by habsorbed on Dec 15, 2023 0:36:17 GMT -5
if they expect good stats when they're only 19 and they are big power forwards then they are fools: Joe Thorton, John Leclair, Brendan Shanahan, Shane Doan, Mark Stone. Comparables are tough. I’m not sure these comparables are really that good. While they appear to start “slow” there is more to it than that Joe Thornton - his stats exploded from game 83 onwards. Slafkovsky will reach game 83 at game 44 this year . In his first 68 games, Thornton had 12 points Mark Stone looks like he started slow. But in his first 68 games he had 34 points. Twice as many as Slaf Brendan Shanahan in his first 68 games had 26 points. And then he scored 50 points in his next 63, and basically scored near a point a game the rest of his career Then you included Leclair and Doan, which are real curious cases. Leclair was 21 as a rookie. In his first 68 games, Leclair had 26 points. Developed into nothing more than a 40pt second liner with Montreal and didn’t start producing until he was traded at age 25. If Slaf takes that long, he will be going into UFA, and likely find himself, like Leclair, on another team Shane Doan in his first 68 games got 16 points. But took 5 seasons to score more than 22 points. Not the best out look. Much like the Leclair example, if Slaf doesn’t score more than 22 points 4 seasons in a row, I doubt he is a Hab in year 5. Slafkovsky currently has played his 68th game, and has 17 career points. For the comparable to be closer to the first three names, he has to break out at 0.8 points per game for the rest of his career in the next 10-15 games ********** The point of this post. Is how long do you give Slaf to start producing? One year like Thornton, Shanahan and Stone? Or 4-5 years like Leclair and Doan? Not sure where you get one year for Stone. By the time he was 22 he had played a grand total of 23 Nhl games in 2 seasons and had 8 points. And then Stone broke out with 64 points in 80 games. I'm good with Slafs getting 50 points next year when he is 20. And i think he will easily do it, assuming HuGo get some talent to play with him. |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 15, 2023 11:10:55 GMT -5
Comparables are tough. I’m not sure these comparables are really that good. While they appear to start “slow” there is more to it than that Joe Thornton - his stats exploded from game 83 onwards. Slafkovsky will reach game 83 at game 44 this year . In his first 68 games, Thornton had 12 points Mark Stone looks like he started slow. But in his first 68 games he had 34 points. Twice as many as Slaf Brendan Shanahan in his first 68 games had 26 points. And then he scored 50 points in his next 63, and basically scored near a point a game the rest of his career Then you included Leclair and Doan, which are real curious cases. Leclair was 21 as a rookie. In his first 68 games, Leclair had 26 points. Developed into nothing more than a 40pt second liner with Montreal and didn’t start producing until he was traded at age 25. If Slaf takes that long, he will be going into UFA, and likely find himself, like Leclair, on another team Shane Doan in his first 68 games got 16 points. But took 5 seasons to score more than 22 points. Not the best out look. Much like the Leclair example, if Slaf doesn’t score more than 22 points 4 seasons in a row, I doubt he is a Hab in year 5. Slafkovsky currently has played his 68th game, and has 17 career points. For the comparable to be closer to the first three names, he has to break out at 0.8 points per game for the rest of his career in the next 10-15 games ********** The point of this post. Is how long do you give Slaf to start producing? One year like Thornton, Shanahan and Stone? Or 4-5 years like Leclair and Doan? Not sure where you get one year for Stone. By the time he was 22 he had played a grand total of 23 Nhl games in 2 seasons and had 8 points. And then Stone broke out with 64 points in 80 games. I'm good with Slafs getting 50 points next year when he is 20. And i think he will easily do it, assuming HuGo get some talent to play with him. His first “year” he played 4 games. Not exactly a year His second “year” he played 19 games. (Got 8 points. That’s 35 prorated over 82 games) His third “year” was his rookie season. When you use the 23 games above, and the first 45 games in his rookie season - he got 34 points in his first 68 games. So he got 26 points in his first 45 games that year. Then he got 38 points in the final 35 games. So yes, it took him one year. Like I said, not a very good comparable (yet) to Slafkovsky |
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