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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 2, 2024 23:22:47 GMT -5
It's a no win... he trades Monahan for a first and he should have done better, if he waits for a better deal and Monahan gets hurt then he's a moron for not trading him... We got what the market decided was a fair return(even though most are saying HuGo did great) and I assume HuGo will make a deal at the draft since we have 11 picks combined in rounds 1,2 & 3 in the next 2 drafts. Everyone is saying Hughes did great because they are considering BOTH trades. Which on the surface looks real good But Winnipeg didn't send us 2 first rounders, but people are treating it like they did. On the surface of looking JUST at the Winnipeg deal, Hughes panicked There was more teams than Winnipeg looking for a center. And unless Monahan is pulling a Malakhov (skiing) or a Brisebois (race car testing), there was ZERO chance of him getting injured during the next few days. Montreal doesn't play again until Tuesday. So why the rush immediately after Lindholm was traded? Lindholm is 29, Monahan is 29 ... they both are UFA rentals, ... Monahan has more points, comparable plus minus, and a way better contract. So why does Lindholm pull in a first , plus two players, plus a conditional. But Monahan only gets a first? (The conditional we got is 97% chance of not occurring). People will point to Morgan's injury history. Montreal traded for him because we knew that was a freak injury, and he is at just as much a risk of getting injured now as any other player. On Monahan alone, yes Hughes did good. But when you break them done trade by trade, we could have gotten more from other teams, even if he simply waited until Monday. I don't why he did it now, maybe the Jets said it a limited time offer, maybe all the other teams that reached out needed salary retention... don't know... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 2, 2024 23:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Feb 2, 2024 23:37:06 GMT -5
Everyone is saying Hughes did great because they are considering BOTH trades. Which on the surface looks real good But Winnipeg didn't send us 2 first rounders, but people are treating it like they did. On the surface of looking JUST at the Winnipeg deal, Hughes panicked There was more teams than Winnipeg looking for a center. And unless Monahan is pulling a Malakhov (skiing) or a Brisebois (race car testing), there was ZERO chance of him getting injured during the next few days. Montreal doesn't play again until Tuesday. So why the rush immediately after Lindholm was traded? Lindholm is 29, Monahan is 29 ... they both are UFA rentals, ... Monahan has more points, comparable plus minus, and a way better contract. So why does Lindholm pull in a first , plus two players, plus a conditional. But Monahan only gets a first? (The conditional we got is 97% chance of not occurring). People will point to Morgan's injury history. Montreal traded for him because we knew that was a freak injury, and he is at just as much a risk of getting injured now as any other player. On Monahan alone, yes Hughes did good. But when you break them done trade by trade, we could have gotten more from other teams, even if he simply waited until Monday. I don't why he did it now, maybe the Jets said it a limited time offer, maybe all the other teams that reached out needed salary retention... don't know... Monahan's salary cap is $1,985,000 Which means a team at this point in the season would need less than 1 million cap space No one needs salary retention on that. Boston, Philly, and Toronto are the only teams with less than that cap space, and 2 of those we wouldn't dream of helping Plus if the other team needed salary retention as a condition, then we get more. Such as Dallas, who has just over 1 million in cap space, and the natural team to try to get into a bidding war with Winnipeg. If they need us to retain, then we get their first and Logan Stankoven. Think that's crazy? Linholm got Kuzemenko, a guy who got 74 points as a rookie last year, plus a first, plus a B prospect, plus a conditional Hughes jumped the gun. It's great he got a first, but we could have also gotten a Kakko, or a Stankoven, or someone like that |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 2, 2024 23:41:18 GMT -5
The only reason I can think of to trade with Winnipeg at this moment, is that Hughes had an agreement with Monahan, and Monahan said the only team he'd waive his no trade for was Winnipeg. Now, Monahan only had a 10 team NTC, so Hughes had options, but maybe he just didn't want to do Monahan dirty.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 2, 2024 23:46:28 GMT -5
This was also the year to develop Slafkovsky. This trade hurts him the most if he isn't put on Suzuki's line. And we went from being a team with some depth up the middle, to a team with no depth up the middle. Our second line is going to be brutal. Armia-Newhook-Anderson?? What is the plan with the second line? We'd all love to see Roy-Newhook-Ylonen ... but we know Marty is not going to do that
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Post by folatre on Feb 2, 2024 23:46:43 GMT -5
Right or wrong, it was driven by perception and the narrative that Lindholm was clearly the best piece available in this market. This is explained by the recency bias -- Lindholm's career season was two years ago and Monahan's peak was five years ago. Plus, Lindholm is fortunate because he has been an iron man, basically never injured since came into the league; whereas Monahan's NHL career was turned upside down in last 36 months with two hip surgeries and the ankle/foot injury that made him miss 2/3 of the season with the Habs in 2022-23. And last, but not entirely unimportant, in a league that slags on guys who do not have speed compared to other guys at their respective position, there is not really a debate that Lindholm skates better than Monahan.
Who was going to offer more than a first round pick? Boston does not have any, nor do they have any good prospects. Colorado has been bleeding picks for years and does not want to cough up another one because they already did their 2C business in the off-season (Johansen and he is stuck there at $4 AAV next year). Toronto has zero seconds and if they spend a first it has to be for a top-4 d-man. New Jersey was probably scared to throw a better offer than Winnipeg's on the table because they, literally, do not know if they are going to even make the playoffs.
Who would have offered more than a first?
The only team what I wonder about is the Rangers because they have enough assets to have wanted to get ultra-serious about shoring up the center position. However, given what all the media guys have been saying for months about the bad blood between Gorton and Drury, maybe they never called or Hughes ghosted them.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 2, 2024 23:55:44 GMT -5
Right or wrong, it was driven by perception and the narrative that Lindholm was clearly the best piece available in this market. This is explained by the recency bias -- Lindholm's career season was two years ago and Monahan's peak was five years ago. Plus, Lindholm is fortunate because he has been an iron man, basically never injured since came into the league; whereas Monahan's NHL career was turned upside down in last 36 months with two hip surgeries and the ankle/foot injury that made him miss 2/3 of the season with the Habs in 2022-23. And last, but not entirely unimportant, in a league that slags on guys who do not have speed compared to other guys at their respective position, there is not really a debate that Lindholm skates better than Monahan. Who was going to offer more than a first round pick? Boston does not have any, nor do they have any good prospects. Colorado has been bleeding picks for years and does not want to cough up another one because they already did their 2C business in the off-season (Johansen and he is stuck there at $4 AAV next year). Toronto has zero seconds and if they spend a first it has to be for a top-4 d-man. New Jersey was probably scared to throw a better offer than Winnipeg's on the table because they, literally, do not know if they are going to even make the playoffs. Who would have offered more than a first? The only team what I wonder about is the Rangers because they have enough assets to have wanted to get ultra-serious about shoring up the center position. However, given what all the media guys have been saying for months about the bad blood between Gorton and Drury, maybe they never called or Hughes ghosted them. You do realize these aren't the only teams, right? This is the second post you name these teams. Even if it was ONLY Winnipeg, there was no urgency to do it now. Who was Winnipeg going to get that was better than Monahan? And while you show a slight difference between Monahan and Linholm, it's not like Linholm went for 2 assists to Monahan's one .... Linholm went for 4 gauaranteed assists to ONE guaranteed asset for Monahan. There was not that much difference in the two - recency bias or no. Dallas has assets, Florida, Tampa, heck even Detroit to catch Toronto ... there were options if we waited. Now I'm sure you will attempt to shoot them all down to prove Winnipeg was the only option. But even still, there was zero need to rush. And other teams may have found ways to make it work ... ie, bring in a third team outside the playoffs, so we'd get an asset from them. |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 3, 2024 0:33:02 GMT -5
Several hours later...we still suck.
Right now, if Suzuki gets injured, we are AHL level. CC is our only top 6. Think about that.
This trade just drove home that we had 3 top 6, now 2 and a pile of bottom 6. NONE of which have any top 6 upside.
And the cavalry is not coming...
This isn't copium anymore, this is gene therapy to keep the CH from detaching.
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Post by PTH on Feb 3, 2024 1:26:25 GMT -5
Right or wrong, it was driven by perception and the narrative that Lindholm was clearly the best piece available in this market. This is explained by the recency bias -- Lindholm's career season was two years ago and Monahan's peak was five years ago. Plus, Lindholm is fortunate because he has been an iron man, basically never injured since came into the league; whereas Monahan's NHL career was turned upside down in last 36 months with two hip surgeries and the ankle/foot injury that made him miss 2/3 of the season with the Habs in 2022-23. And last, but not entirely unimportant, in a league that slags on guys who do not have speed compared to other guys at their respective position, there is not really a debate that Lindholm skates better than Monahan. Who was going to offer more than a first round pick? Boston does not have any, nor do they have any good prospects. Colorado has been bleeding picks for years and does not want to cough up another one because they already did their 2C business in the off-season (Johansen and he is stuck there at $4 AAV next year). Toronto has zero seconds and if they spend a first it has to be for a top-4 d-man. New Jersey was probably scared to throw a better offer than Winnipeg's on the table because they, literally, do not know if they are going to even make the playoffs. Who would have offered more than a first? The only team what I wonder about is the Rangers because they have enough assets to have wanted to get ultra-serious about shoring up the center position. However, given what all the media guys have been saying for months about the bad blood between Gorton and Drury, maybe they never called or Hughes ghosted them. You do realize these aren't the only teams, right? This is the second post you name these teams. Even if it was ONLY Winnipeg, there was no urgency to do it now. Who was Winnipeg going to get that was better than Monahan? And while you show a slight difference between Monahan and Linholm, it's not like Linholm went for 2 assists to Monahan's one .... Linholm went for 4 gauaranteed assists to ONE guaranteed asset for Monahan. There was not that much difference in the two - recency bias or no. Dallas has assets, Florida, Tampa, heck even Detroit to catch Toronto ... there were options if we waited. Now I'm sure you will attempt to shoot them all down to prove Winnipeg was the only option. But even still, there was zero need to rush. And other teams may have found ways to make it work ... ie, bring in a third team outside the playoffs, so we'd get an asset from them. There another side to this.... there might have been other potential buyers if Hughes waited a bit, but there might have been more sellers too. Right now, a 1st rounder was on the table, but wait 2 weeks, and maybe there are other teams selling off players, not necessarily expiring contracts, but they could effectively change market conditions. In short, waiting might mean losing the 1st rounder on the table, and not only hoping for a better offer. There is also injury risk, which in Monahan's case is large, in the sense that a minor sprain that would make him miss 5 games could be enough to scare off potential buyers. Of course, letting him go means the lineup is now scary thin, and the rest of the season is going to be.... painful. Still, if I'm Hughes, and I have a firm offer for a first round pick on the table for Monahan, with no retention, and calling around no one else seems close to matching, I'm pulling the trigger. Last season, we clearly missed out on interesting deadline returns on Edmundson and Monahan because of injuries, we wouldn't want that to happen again. Now, I figure this pick gets moved at the draft for a Newhook type of player, and next season we'll have a 2nd line with Dach, Newhook and the new guy, and games will be worth watching again. |
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Post by PTH on Feb 3, 2024 1:30:04 GMT -5
I think we have to consider the risk vs reward scenario. We could of waited and maybe got a little more but then Monahan could of gotten injured. Hughes got his first rounder and saved his 3rd retention spot for someone like Pearson, Allen or Savard. If it's Pearson, I'll be disappointed. Even with retention he won't fetch much of anything. Allen... well, if it means we actually get something for him, fair enough. I'm not sold on moving Savard, but with retention there might be a haul out there for him, and it's Hughes' job to get that haul. Dark horse candidate for a trade: Evans, with retention, he could be real attractive to a contender looking for C depth. |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 3, 2024 2:23:03 GMT -5
Of course, letting him go means the lineup is now scary thin, and the rest of the season is going to be.... painful.Now, I figure this pick gets moved at the draft for a Newhook type of player, and next season we'll have a 2nd line with Dach, Newhook and the new guy, and games will be worth watching again. The trade was a slap in the face of just how bad we are. By now, 4th year of pain, we should be looking at the potential upswing, but you look closely and we got almost nothing up front. CC and Suzuki. THAT'S IT. On defense we got lots of potential, but still nothing that screams great future. From those that have yet to make it, we have our great hope pinned on an undersized defenseman who will be a pinniata in any playoff series. It's like we are eating weeds to feel full but pretending we are doing the right thing to get stronger...which never happens. It was easy to trade Monahan for a first. Even BargainBin could do that all day long. The real challenge now is how Hughes turns this bottom scrapping, weed filled fullness into a serious team within a few years. I, we need to see that before patting him on the back and basking in...hope. Right now, I'm disheartened and skeptical.... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 3, 2024 5:23:39 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Feb 3, 2024 8:27:58 GMT -5
You do realize these aren't the only teams, right? This is the second post you name these teams. Even if it was ONLY Winnipeg, there was no urgency to do it now. Who was Winnipeg going to get that was better than Monahan? And while you show a slight difference between Monahan and Linholm, it's not like Linholm went for 2 assists to Monahan's one .... Linholm went for 4 gauaranteed assists to ONE guaranteed asset for Monahan. There was not that much difference in the two - recency bias or no. Dallas has assets, Florida, Tampa, heck even Detroit to catch Toronto ... there were options if we waited. Now I'm sure you will attempt to shoot them all down to prove Winnipeg was the only option. But even still, there was zero need to rush. And other teams may have found ways to make it work ... ie, bring in a third team outside the playoffs, so we'd get an asset from them. There another side to this.... there might have been other potential buyers if Hughes waited a bit, but there might have been more sellers too. Right now, a 1st rounder was on the table, but wait 2 weeks, and maybe there are other teams selling off players, not necessarily expiring contracts, but they could effectively change market conditions. In short, waiting might mean losing the 1st rounder on the table, and not only hoping for a better offer. There is also injury risk, which in Monahan's case is large, in the sense that a minor sprain that would make him miss 5 games could be enough to scare off potential buyers. Of course, letting him go means the lineup is now scary thin, and the rest of the season is going to be.... painful. Still, if I'm Hughes, and I have a firm offer for a first round pick on the table for Monahan, with no retention, and calling around no one else seems close to matching, I'm pulling the trigger. Last season, we clearly missed out on interesting deadline returns on Edmundson and Monahan because of injuries, we wouldn't want that to happen again. Now, I figure this pick gets moved at the draft for a Newhook type of player, and next season we'll have a 2nd line with Dach, Newhook and the new guy, and games will be worth watching again. That makes sense, but that 25 pick is low value, especially in this draft. It was one reason Calgary got what they got. I would not hold out hope that it gets flipped for something good. It more likely we will be drafting someone and developing a potential third liner. In the last 20 years, the list of #25 picks that amounted to something is real slim. (Pastrnak, Cam Ward, and McCarron and among the better picks) |
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Post by jkr on Feb 3, 2024 8:51:57 GMT -5
I guess I'm not watching enough sports. I watched this video and found out Todd McClellan has been fired. I guess a run of 14 losses in your last 17 games will do that to you. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 3, 2024 10:09:01 GMT -5
I guess I'm not watching enough sports. I watched this video and found out Todd McClellan has been fired. I guess a run of 14 losses in your last 17 games will do that to you. Lol |
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 3, 2024 12:50:02 GMT -5
I guess I'm not watching enough sports. I watched this video and found out Todd McClellan has been fired. I guess a run of 14 losses in your last 17 games will do that to you. Especially when you have a dream player like PLD.  Boy, did we dodge a bullet there. Or was Hugo on to this guy's attitude issues all along? |
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 3, 2024 13:01:13 GMT -5
Of course, letting him go means the lineup is now scary thin, and the rest of the season is going to be.... painful.Now, I figure this pick gets moved at the draft for a Newhook type of player, and next season we'll have a 2nd line with Dach, Newhook and the new guy, and games will be worth watching again. The trade was a slap in the face of just how bad we are. By now, 4th year of pain, we should be looking at the potential upswing, but you look closely and we got almost nothing up front. CC and Suzuki. THAT'S IT. On defense we got lots of potential, but still nothing that screams great future. From those that have yet to make it, we have our great hope pinned on an undersized defenseman who will be a pinniata in any playoff series. It's like we are eating weeds to feel full but pretending we are doing the right thing to get stronger...which never happens. It was easy to trade Monahan for a first. Even BargainBin could do that all day long. The real challenge now is how Hughes turns this bottom scrapping, weed filled fullness into a serious team within a few years. I, we need to see that before patting him on the back and basking in...hope. Right now, I'm disheartened and skeptical.... It is getting a little tiring rooting for the Habs to lose every game in the 2nd half of each season, as well as rooting for some other team to lose because we have their pick. Fla last year was a real tease when it looked like they weren't even going to make the playoffs. How did that work out? So i guess we gotta hope Hellybuck craps the bed or gets injured  Jets are currently 6th best team. Possible they could fall to 10th which would give us 23rd overall. I've always said if you ain't drafting in the top 10 you might as well be drafting in the 2nd round. I want the good old days when Sammy made the trade for some team's first, and then loaded up the competition's roster by further trades AND JACKPOT!!! |
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 3, 2024 13:06:58 GMT -5
The other concern i have with acquiring these draft picks is that they are only of any value if HuGo have some acumen at drafting or putting together some package deal. Not sure i see any evidence of either yet. Dach deal looks good if the guy could ever stay healthy. Newhook remains a question mark, as do Reinbacher and Mesar.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 3, 2024 13:39:24 GMT -5
I guess I'm not watching enough sports. I watched this video and found out Todd McClellan has been fired. I guess a run of 14 losses in your last 17 games will do that to you. Especially when you have a dream player like PLD. Boy, did we dodge a bullet there. Or was Hugo on to this guy's attitude issues all along? Burgerbrain would have been all over pld... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 3, 2024 13:41:00 GMT -5
The trade was a slap in the face of just how bad we are. By now, 4th year of pain, we should be looking at the potential upswing, but you look closely and we got almost nothing up front. CC and Suzuki. THAT'S IT. On defense we got lots of potential, but still nothing that screams great future. From those that have yet to make it, we have our great hope pinned on an undersized defenseman who will be a pinniata in any playoff series. It's like we are eating weeds to feel full but pretending we are doing the right thing to get stronger...which never happens. It was easy to trade Monahan for a first. Even BargainBin could do that all day long. The real challenge now is how Hughes turns this bottom scrapping, weed filled fullness into a serious team within a few years. I, we need to see that before patting him on the back and basking in...hope. Right now, I'm disheartened and skeptical.... It is getting a little tiring rooting for the Habs to lose every game in the 2nd half of each season, as well as rooting for some other team to lose because we have their pick. Fla last year was a real tease when it looked like they weren't even going to make the playoffs. How did that work out? So i guess we gotta hope Hellybuck craps the bed or gets injured Jets are currently 6th best team. Possible they could fall to 10th which would give us 23rd overall. I've always said if you ain't drafting in the top 10 you might as well be drafting in the 2nd round. I want the good old days when Sammy made the trade for some team's first, and then loaded up the competition's roster by further trades AND JACKPOT!!! Those days are gone and they're never coming back... |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 3, 2024 14:50:45 GMT -5
The other concern i have with acquiring these draft picks is that they are only of any value if HuGo have some acumen at drafting or putting together some package deal. Not sure i see any evidence of either yet. Dach deal looks good if the guy could ever stay healthy. Newhook remains a question mark, as do Reinbacher and Mesar. That's what i was hoping with the Monahan trade. Another late draft pick for a bottom 6 means less then nothing. At some pont we are going to lose them because of an overflow of them. Look at our LHD situation. We are not going to escape reality that we have to start trading them for more hopium simply because we have too many. Yet no stars among them. Being the NHL training farm does NOT work for me. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Feb 3, 2024 15:50:13 GMT -5
The other concern i have with acquiring these draft picks is that they are only of any value if HuGo have some acumen at drafting or putting together some package deal. Not sure i see any evidence of either yet. Dach deal looks good if the guy could ever stay healthy. Newhook remains a question mark, as do Reinbacher and Mesar. That's what i was hoping with the Monahan trade. Another late draft pick for a bottom 6 means less then nothing. At some pont we are going to lose them because of an overflow of them. Look at our LHD situation. We are not going to escape reality that we have to start trading them for more hopium simply because we have too many. Yet no stars among them. Being the NHL training farm does NOT work for me. We don’t have a star 50 goal scorer. We aren’t going to get one. Success will come when we are a hard working club that is not fun to play against. A couple of jackeyes black eyes mean defensemen will get us a lot more than hopefully waiting for a Bedard to turn things around. Chicago is years away from leading the league. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 3, 2024 17:24:22 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the Hawks will win the draft lottery this year and next year
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Post by Andrew on Feb 3, 2024 18:53:15 GMT -5
The other concern i have with acquiring these draft picks is that they are only of any value if HuGo have some acumen at drafting or putting together some package deal. Not sure i see any evidence of either yet. Dach deal looks good if the guy could ever stay healthy. Newhook remains a question mark, as do Reinbacher and Mesar. Valid concerns. Hughes and co have much to prove still. I’d be surprised if all 4 of our first round picks over the next two years get used at the draft table. I wouldn’t trade our first rounders, but the acquired ones should be in play. If a player like Zegras is being shopped and the ask is something like two firsts, a prospect and a young defender then the Habs are well positioned to make an offer. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 3, 2024 20:42:35 GMT -5
I'm not sold on moving Savard, but with retention there might be a haul out there for him, and it's Hughes' job to get that haul. The team will miss what Sean Monahan brought to the table, and they'll definitely miss what David Savard brings, as well ... he's done a great job mentoring those young d-men, and that would then fall on Mike Matheson (29) and Johnathan Kovacevic (26) as the team's blue-line elders if/once Savard is gone ... we'll see what transpires ... Cheers. |
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Post by folatre on Feb 3, 2024 20:57:18 GMT -5
The three goalie thing has not been bad but it is strange and it has gone on long enough, so one has to assume Hughes is prioritizing using the last retention spot on Allen. However, if nothing decent is offered, then I suppose teams looking for a RHD vet may surprise with a solid offer for Savard.
I am more in probably nothing is going to happen mode on any of these fronts between now and the deadline. In contrast, with the cap rising, Montreal flush with picks and too many young NHL-worthy d-men, I am expecting fireworks in the summer.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Feb 4, 2024 13:32:41 GMT -5
The other concern i have with acquiring these draft picks is that they are only of any value if HuGo have some acumen at drafting or putting together some package deal. Not sure i see any evidence of either yet. Dach deal looks good if the guy could ever stay healthy. Newhook remains a question mark, as do Reinbacher and Mesar. Valid concerns. Hughes and co have much to prove still. I’d be surprised if all 4 of our first round picks over the next two years get used at the draft table. I wouldn’t trade our first rounders, but the acquired ones should be in play. If a player like Zegras is being shopped and the ask is something like two firsts, a prospect and a young defender then the Habs are well positioned to make an offer. Zegras has a ton of talent but he won't score 50 Michigans a year. There must be a reason why he is being shopped. Where there is smoke? He probably has more value than two late picks that each have a 30% chance of becoming regulars. Hugo has not impressed me with his picking as much as his sound management. Picking an 18-year-old prospect is like choosing a spouse. Fifty percent of marriages end in divorce. At least picking 7 prospects a year give a better chance of success than picking one every 10 years. |
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Post by drkcloud on Feb 4, 2024 14:15:25 GMT -5
Valid concerns. Hughes and co have much to prove still. I’d be surprised if all 4 of our first round picks over the next two years get used at the draft table. I wouldn’t trade our first rounders, but the acquired ones should be in play. If a player like Zegras is being shopped and the ask is something like two firsts, a prospect and a young defender then the Habs are well positioned to make an offer. Zegras has a ton of talent but he won't score 50 Michigans a year. There must be a reason why he is being shopped. Where there is smoke? He probably has more value than two late picks that each have a 30% chance of becoming regulars. Hugo has not impressed me with his picking as much as his sound management. Picking an 18-year-old prospect is like choosing a spouse. Fifty percent of marriages end in divorce. At least picking 7 prospects a year give a better chance of success than picking one every 10 years. |
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Post by IamCanadiens on Feb 4, 2024 14:36:46 GMT -5
Zegras has a ton of talent but he won't score 50 Michigans a year. There must be a reason why he is being shopped. Where there is smoke? He probably has more value than two late picks that each have a 30% chance of becoming regulars. Hugo has not impressed me with his picking as much as his sound management. Picking an 18-year-old prospect is like choosing a spouse. Fifty percent of marriages end in divorce. At least picking 7 prospects a year give a better chance of success than picking one every 10 years. He is not at all Verbeek's kind of player. Verbeek was an awesome mix of skill, heart, grit and hustle. He is currently building the core of the Ducks and likely looking for those qualities he values most. Zegras probably drives him crazy with his style and has more value to him as a trade asset to find players to build the foundation he envisions. |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 4, 2024 15:20:20 GMT -5
Zegras needs to be in a serious team enviroment were he can be his flashy self but still work in a defensive system.
We don't have that. Period. It's going to be a clusterplucking and a coaching nightmare.
I love to have a Zegras type get me off the couch in awe, but then losing 8-6 is going nowhere fast.
Guhle and Suzuki are too young and a few years away to have the Weber gravitas.
But...if he's available for a 6-10 1st rounder, it's going to be tough to ignore.
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Boy, did we dodge a bullet there. Or was Hugo on to this guy's attitude issues all along?
