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Post by seventeen on Apr 10, 2024 13:11:17 GMT -5
I'm hoping Newhook will be a top 6 winger, and I'm betting Skilly will agree with me. And I'm already liking our Cup chances in ten years without Celbrini. All we need is a tough top 6 forward to go with Dach and Alex. We can fill the bottom 6 easily and our D is in good shape with X, Guhle, Mailloux, Hutson, and Reinbach. And hope Fowler develops into the next Carey Price. Monty isn't that guy. Don't write off Primeau. He's still only 24, a baby as far as goalies go. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 10, 2024 13:14:23 GMT -5
What’s with the hand gesture on the three of them? First I saw it was in NBA games where it's used after a 3 point shot goes in. I think it was there first, but clearly, NHL players have adopted it. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 10, 2024 13:40:23 GMT -5
And I get Mike Matheson has some holes in his game, but the guy's on pace to top 60 points. Last guy to do that was Subban (60) in 2014-15. Markov's peak production was 64 points in 2008-09. I get the coming logjam on the blueline and Matheson is a guy you could "sell high" but a 60-point dman is becoming de rigueur in the NHL. I'd hate to give that up without replacing it. I love that term "On the Horns of a Dilemma". Mad magazine used that once when they illustrated a number of cliches. This one depicted some character trying to balance on the horns (much like bull horns) of some imaginary monster. That was about 55 years ago. Some things just stick with you. But back to this post and Matheson's spot on the roster. HuGo have to be considering this as being on the horns of a dilemma. On the 'keeping him' side is the fact that Matheson has put up a lot of points. He is a fantastic skater and he is on the PP and first pair. He is also a vet and you need a certain number of vets to stabilize the team. The 'let's trade him' side of the equation is; the logjam on LHD, his age (30), the fact he turns over the puck a lot often on the PP resulting in shorthanded goals against and he is not very physical, doesn't win a lot of board battle and is questionable overall on the defensive side, especially his hockey IQ. Despite being a vet, I haven't seen a lot of evidence that he is a leader, but I'm not close to the team (probably about as far away as one can get) so what do I know? Further down on the list is the fact he took forever to figure out it was a good idea to give Slaf the puck. To me, being a cold blooded killer, the trade side outweighs the keeping side by quite a bit. I give a lot of weight to his age, to the jam at LHD and to the fact his value is high at the moment. My main concern is whether or not the team would be stable enough if we lose a vet. I think we'd be ok. One of the things HuGo seem to have managed is to have brought together a good number of mature young players. Suzuki is mature, Guhle is mature and so are Xhekaj, Harris, Dach, Roy, Slafkovsky even and probably one or two others I've forgotten. The actual vets; Savard, Gally, Evans and Armia all likely provide more veteran leadership than Matheson. I probably shouldn't be concerned about this young team going off the rails, or turning into the Sabres. So, if I was in Hughes' very expensive shoes, I would be putting Matheson's name out there, with the reason being the surfeit (great word, huh?) of guys on our left D. A talent like Matheson would be very attractive to a contender or a team that sees itself taking the next step, soon. If Arizona moves to Utah next season, they would want to upgrade quickly and the Yotes have a lot of good young prospects we could browse through. We'll see what Hughes' feelings are about this in June. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Apr 10, 2024 14:15:25 GMT -5
One of my pet peeves is why the networks don't show the hats on the ice after a hatrick. I get it that they ought not to show streakers, protesters or other bad actors who disrupt a sporting event to not encourage that conduct - all of which will get you ejected from the stadium. But throwing a hat after a hatrick is part of a long honoured and respectable hockey celebration. Show the hats raining, them littered on the ice and the player soaking it up. Damn it!!! Anyone able to find the celebration after the hatty on line? I can confirm there were a lot of hats and it was raining for a good minute or two. Another thing that might not of made t.v. was a Flyer fan throw an orange towel onto the ice after the 8th goal I believe. Even he had enough. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 10, 2024 16:56:19 GMT -5
One of my pet peeves is why the networks don't show the hats on the ice after a hatrick. I get it that they ought not to show streakers, protesters or other bad actors who disrupt a sporting event to not encourage that conduct - all of which will get you ejected from the stadium. But throwing a hat after a hatrick is part of a long honoured and respectable hockey celebration. Show the hats raining, them littered on the ice and the player soaking it up. Damn it!!! Anyone able to find the celebration after the hatty on line? They would rather go to a commercial and make money |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 10, 2024 16:58:50 GMT -5
One of my pet peeves is why the networks don't show the hats on the ice after a hatrick. I get it that they ought not to show streakers, protesters or other bad actors who disrupt a sporting event to not encourage that conduct - all of which will get you ejected from the stadium. But throwing a hat after a hatrick is part of a long honoured and respectable hockey celebration. Show the hats raining, them littered on the ice and the player soaking it up. Damn it!!! Anyone able to find the celebration after the hatty on line? I can confirm there were a lot of hats and it was raining for a good minute or two. Another thing that might not of made t.v. was a Flyer fan throw an orange towel onto the ice after the 8th goal I believe. Even he had enough. I thought the fleas fan threw a jersey |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 10, 2024 16:59:48 GMT -5
And I get Mike Matheson has some holes in his game, but the guy's on pace to top 60 points. Last guy to do that was Subban (60) in 2014-15. Markov's peak production was 64 points in 2008-09. I get the coming logjam on the blueline and Matheson is a guy you could "sell high" but a 60-point dman is becoming de rigueur in the NHL. I'd hate to give that up without replacing it. I love that term "On the Horns of a Dilemma". Mad magazine used that once when they illustrated a number of cliches. This one depicted some character trying to balance on the horns (much like bull horns) of some imaginary monster. That was about 55 years ago. Some things just stick with you. But back to this post and Matheson's spot on the roster. HuGo have to be considering this as being on the horns of a dilemma. On the 'keeping him' side is the fact that Matheson has put up a lot of points. He is a fantastic skater and he is on the PP and first pair. He is also a vet and you need a certain number of vets to stabilize the team. The 'let's trade him' side of the equation is; the logjam on LHD, his age (30), the fact he turns over the puck a lot often on the PP resulting in shorthanded goals against and he is not very physical, doesn't win a lot of board battle and is questionable overall on the defensive side, especially his hockey IQ. Despite being a vet, I haven't seen a lot of evidence that he is a leader, but I'm not close to the team (probably about as far away as one can get) so what do I know? Further down on the list is the fact he took forever to figure out it was a good idea to give Slaf the puck. To me, being a cold blooded killer, the trade side outweighs the keeping side by quite a bit. I give a lot of weight to his age, to the jam at LHD and to the fact his value is high at the moment. My main concern is whether or not the team would be stable enough if we lose a vet. I think we'd be ok. One of the things HuGo seem to have managed is to have brought together a good number of mature young players. Suzuki is mature, Guhle is mature and so are Xhekaj, Harris, Dach, Roy, Slafkovsky even and probably one or two others I've forgotten. The actual vets; Savard, Gally, Evans and Armia all likely provide more veteran leadership than Matheson. I probably shouldn't be concerned about this young team going off the rails, or turning into the Sabres. So, if I was in Hughes' very expensive shoes, I would be putting Matheson's name out there, with the reason being the surfeit (great word, huh?) of guys on our left D. A talent like Matheson would be very attractive to a contender or a team that sees itself taking the next step, soon. If Arizona moves to Utah next season, they would want to upgrade quickly and the Yotes have a lot of good young prospects we could browse through. We'll see what Hughes' feelings are about this in June. I'd move him at the trade deadline for a cup contender and get a guy in our age group like dach or newhook with size... |
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Post by Tankdriver on Apr 10, 2024 19:57:06 GMT -5
I can confirm there were a lot of hats and it was raining for a good minute or two. Another thing that might not of made t.v. was a Flyer fan throw an orange towel onto the ice after the 8th goal I believe. Even he had enough. I thought the fleas fan threw a jersey Nope. Was a towel. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 11, 2024 12:03:16 GMT -5
3 fingers up...hat-trick. Who signals the #3 with the last three fingers of their hand? No one. And you notice the other two fingers of all three are shaped the same way. If you Google that gesture you get a lot of questionable returns. Now I’m not implying anything, it’s just odd that this particular gesture is being used instead of just holding up the three middle fingers , like most would I’m giving the three of them the benefit of the doubt here and going to believe they were giving the “OK” sign with three goals. But even then you wouldn’t hold your fingers like that |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 11, 2024 15:06:32 GMT -5
Skilly, you're overthinking this.
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Post by jkr on Apr 11, 2024 15:07:13 GMT -5
I would hold my fingers the way they are - thumb & forefinger together. But I know what you are referring to Skilly, questionable groups have co-opted a benign gesture. However, I dont think there is any kind of secret signaling going on here.
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Post by PTH on Apr 11, 2024 15:19:14 GMT -5
3 fingers up...hat-trick. Who signals the #3 with the last three fingers of their hand? No one. And you notice the other two fingers of all three are shaped the same way. If you Google that gesture you get a lot of questionable returns. Now I’m not implying anything, it’s just odd that this particular gesture is being used instead of just holding up the three middle fingers , like most would I’m giving the three of them the benefit of the doubt here and going to believe they were giving the “OK” sign with three goals. But even then you wouldn’t hold your fingers like that My understanding is that it's a kind of dogwhistle only when oriented down. Also, if the meaning were the one I've heard of, I'm pretty sure a mixed-heritage person like Suzuki wouldn't be doing it. |
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