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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Aug 5, 2024 1:22:06 GMT -5
If Pezz could tie the knot we could call it the Groom Line If Evans was a fighter they could be the APE line...lol
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 26, 2024 8:03:42 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 26, 2024 10:05:32 GMT -5
Reading the quote by Rotenberg, I have an uneasy feeling that they have not excluded the possibility of Demi staying in Russia long term. If I'm HuGo I'm doing everything im my power, $$$$, to get Demi over here, AND NOW!!! We've already discussed the importance of Habs looking after his development and having full control, as well as his ability to perhaps be in the line-up this year. But that quote suggests to me that if Demi is the real deal SKA will do everything to keep him. Money talks and SKA won't have to worry about cap space. HuGo should not play around with this. GET THE GUY OVER HERE!!!
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 26, 2024 11:19:07 GMT -5
The reality is Rotenberg’s comments about Demidov being best served by only coming to Montreal when he is a scoring star on the first line with SKA is a tad self-serving. I think they are seeing in his performances in the Puchkov tournament against KHL competition that the kid can play at the KHL, and make exciting plays and generate points. Rotenberg is trying to get bums in seats to see a dynamic player and give SKA the best chance at a Gagarin Cup. Demidov will make SKA a better team, even at 18.
However, it takes two to agree to a contract extension and Ivan seems very outspoken and focused about coming over to the NHL, even if it means starting in the AHL. It seems like Bobrov built up a great relationship with the kid and his family while extensively scouting him, so I gather he will take on a continued role in keeping that relationship strong and the vision of coming over paramount.
The tide seems to be turning on a lot of recently drafted Russian kids. Not only are they coming over, a number are even leaving early. They see the advantage of playing in the NHL vs KHL long term.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 26, 2024 11:48:52 GMT -5
I'm far more concerned about the walking, talking cancer cell Putin.
At a whim he can declare that all hockey players who don't have a KHL contract must serve two years in the military.
You think it's far fetched? In Greece when i stopped going to university because of the riots, my conscription papers were served and i had to pull my verion of The Great Escape. Literally gone from the country in 12 hours.
So given who we are dealing with, i like to see Demigod in Canada, WAY out of reach of the cancer.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 26, 2024 13:57:28 GMT -5
I'm far more concerned about the walking, talking cancer cell Putin. At a whim he can declare that all hockey players who don't have a KHL contract must serve two years in the military. You think it's far fetched? In Greece when i stopped going to university because of the riots, my conscription papers were served and i had to pull my verion of The Great Escape. Literally gone from the country in 12 hours. So given who we are dealing with, i like to see Demigod in Canada, WAY out of reach of the cancer. Yes, and it doesn't even have to be that far reaching. What if Ivan gets a visit at 2 in the morning from a couple of large men, who suggest that the health and welfare of his family is strongly tied to staying in Russia. It's that simple and it happens there.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 30, 2024 11:10:06 GMT -5
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Aug 30, 2024 13:07:18 GMT -5
I had hopes of a third line of Michkov, Demidov Eiserman. Long shot but we got one. In perspective hockey is a game. Michkovs father was found drowned in a shallow pool. Many of Putins enemies suffered sudden violent deaths. Thousands of young Russians met their deaths in the Ukraine and Ukrainians were killed. many Palestinians and Jews died in Gaza. Putin is a psychopath killer. I want Demidov here ASAP but in the skeam of things, hockey is a game.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 30, 2024 13:47:36 GMT -5
Your hopes are justified. Now, bear in mind that we only see the highlights and his overall game has yet to develop further, but one additional point to be impressed with was his effort on the back check on that play and how hard he works positionally in his own zone. Then there's that hand eye coordination that allows great players to steal pucks and do things with it that most can't. I'm still curious as to whether or not he meant to make that play on the goalie or if the puck just slipped off his stick. Kucherov has done that deliberately before. Was Demidov's smile after the goal because of a superior tricky play or laughing at his luck? Will he be honest enough to admit it?
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Post by frozone on Aug 30, 2024 15:19:44 GMT -5
Your hopes are justified. Now, bear in mind that we only see the highlights and his overall game has yet to develop further, but one additional point to be impressed with was his effort on the back check on that play and how hard he works positionally in his own zone. Then there's that hand eye coordination that allows great players to steal pucks and do things with it that most can't. I'm still curious as to whether or not he meant to make that play on the goalie or if the puck just slipped off his stick. Kucherov has done that deliberately before. Was Demidov's smile after the goal because of a superior tricky play or laughing at his luck? Will he be honest enough to admit it? I have to pinch myself and bring myself back to earth whenever I see these Demidov highlights. There are still risks with him, but he's squashing many of those perceived risks before the 2024-25 season begins. Quality of competition? Not concerned, his offense is still shining against KHLers Skating? Looks good to me. I think his injury last season simply made his skating look bad in some youtube clips Desire to play in NHL? He seems tickled pink about someday playing for the Habs KHL Ice Time? Still concerned, but at least he made the team I don't know if these clips are posted anywhere, but his skill is so much fun to watch. Fans have gotten used to going to the Bell Center in order to watch the Habs, but people will soon be buying tickets specifically to watch Demidov. And as a side note, I wonder how you pronounce the name of the giant 6-8" defenseman, Falkovsky, who took a penalty smothering Demidov in front of the net around 15:50...
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Post by seventeen on Aug 31, 2024 1:06:49 GMT -5
Besides the goals, a few plays stood out to me:
Early in the game, the U23's were hemmed in their own zone for a while. Eventually, Demidov picked up the puck behind his own net, pushed up the left side, put a wicked deke on a forechecker and passed the puck up the wing. Great zone exit.
On the PP, he was really deceptive. From the right half wall he drive toward the middle, drew guys to him and put a perfect pass to the low man on the right, who didn't do much with it.
On another zone exit, he came up the left wing and a forechecker came right at him. He toe dragged around the guy, in his own zone, likely giving his coach a heart atttack. But it was successful, and he kept possession, somehow.
He also freed a guy on a breakaway with a recognition of an opening and a super pass.
On the down side there were about 4 or 5 plays where he beat someone 1 on 1, but lost control of the puck, at times it was seemingly easily. Way more high end good plays than bad ones. He plays a lot like Kucherov, but is slightly taller and about 10 lbs heavier. They both have those amazing hands. That wide stance of his really does help him go 90 degrees on a turn. Tough for a defender to keep up.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 2, 2024 12:54:58 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Sept 2, 2024 14:02:01 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 2, 2024 14:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by IamCanadiens on Sept 2, 2024 20:00:17 GMT -5
As long as he drive a Caddy better and avoids sign posts I'm happy.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 3, 2024 12:01:43 GMT -5
I'm far more concerned about the walking, talking cancer cell Putin. At a whim he can declare that all hockey players who don't have a KHL contract must serve two years in the military. Yes, he can, but he's probably going to tag the ethnic minorities first ... once they're used up (I know, kind of callous of me) he'll start drafting ethnic Russians ... I'll validate that by saying, Mrs Dis and I were at a resort in Cuba that was overrun with Russians ... lots of young men of fighting age thinking that they, the Russians, own the planet ... now, I don't know if he'll actually do this, but if Russia starts losing badly, Vladimir Putin, is capable of anything ... You've mentioned this over the years, HA ... would appreciate hearing more about that time, and what you experienced ... If he does pull the plug on Russians athletes playing outside of Russia, these Russian athletes (not just hockey players) will have a decision to make ... follow Putin's directive, or stay put where they are and risk the consequences ... I have another concern, though ... if Russia defeats Ukraine and continues taking country after country, what will perceptions on Russian players be then ... for instance, what would the mood in the dressing rooms be if, say, Finland and Russia decided to go at it ... or, Russia and Latvia, or Russia and Sweden, etc ... will these countries also consider recalling their athletes from abroad just to serve in the rank and file ... again, what would the moods in the dressing rooms be then ... Cheers.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 3, 2024 13:09:09 GMT -5
If Russia goes after Sweden or Finland, both now NATO cou tries, we're into WW3 and the last thing we care about is hockey.
Just don't draft me...because I'm busy building my bunker.
Talking about bunker, I'm building a house and this post just triggered a thought...
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Post by IamCanadiens on Sept 3, 2024 14:47:37 GMT -5
As long as he drive a Caddy better and avoids sign posts I'm happy. i.e. don't and drive. Last week's tragedy was a worst case scenario. Lafleur got lucky.
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Post by Tankdriver on Sept 3, 2024 14:58:50 GMT -5
If Russia goes after Sweden or Finland, both now NATO cou tries, we're into WW3 and the last thing we care about is hockey. Just don't draft me...because I'm busy building my bunker. Talking about bunker, I'm building a house and this post just triggered a thought... Would you really want to live in a bunker underground for 2 years and come up and see the world destroyed and barely habitable afterwards? Everything and everyone you loved would be wipped out and food would be almost impossible to find.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 3, 2024 15:04:31 GMT -5
If Russia goes after Sweden or Finland, both now NATO cou tries, we're into WW3 and the last thing we care about is hockey. Just don't draft me...because I'm busy building my bunker. Talking about bunker, I'm building a house and this post just triggered a thought... Would you really want to live in a bunker underground for 2 years and come up and see the world destroyed and barely habitable afterwards? Everything and everyone you loved would be wipped out and food would be almost impossible to find. Cranky's first name should be Archie...
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Post by seventeen on Sept 3, 2024 17:57:35 GMT -5
If Russia goes after Sweden or Finland, both now NATO cou tries, we're into WW3 and the last thing we care about is hockey. Just don't draft me...because I'm busy building my bunker. Talking about bunker, I'm building a house and this post just triggered a thought... Just call it a really deep wine cellar and stock it well. Only the best booze, because, well, what's there to come upstairs to?
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Post by Cranky on Sept 3, 2024 18:34:22 GMT -5
If Russia goes after Sweden or Finland, both now NATO cou tries, we're into WW3 and the last thing we care about is hockey. Just don't draft me...because I'm busy building my bunker. Talking about bunker, I'm building a house and this post just triggered a thought... Would you really want to live in a bunker underground for 2 years and come up and see the world destroyed and barely habitable afterwards? Everything and everyone you loved would be wipped out and food would be almost impossible to find. Yes. Because i can then hang a Habs flag without the neighbors looking at me funny... On a bit more serious note, we have a well stocked basement but we wont have electricity or propane. A two years supply to live on takes a serious amount fuel, water, etc. We could easily shut in for a month when covid hit, but utilities still worked. Anywho...even Putler isn’t that crazy...i hope.
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Post by Polarice on Sept 4, 2024 5:38:28 GMT -5
If Russia goes after Sweden or Finland, both now NATO cou tries, we're into WW3 and the last thing we care about is hockey. Just don't draft me...because I'm busy building my bunker. Talking about bunker, I'm building a house and this post just triggered a thought... Would you really want to live in a bunker underground for 2 years and come up and see the world destroyed and barely habitable afterwards? Everything and everyone you loved would be wipped out and food would be almost impossible to find. You'd only have to live in a bunker a couple of weeks. Don't believe the movies.
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Post by Tankdriver on Sept 4, 2024 7:55:53 GMT -5
Would you really want to live in a bunker underground for 2 years and come up and see the world destroyed and barely habitable afterwards? Everything and everyone you loved would be wipped out and food would be almost impossible to find. You'd only have to live in a bunker a couple of weeks. Don't believe the movies. I'm pretty sure the radiation from the nuclear warhead would contaminate the water and the ground and the smoke and dust would block out the sun causing a nuclear winter for years. Either way, I am not risking it.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 4, 2024 12:32:50 GMT -5
Would you really want to live in a bunker underground for 2 years and come up and see the world destroyed and barely habitable afterwards? Everything and everyone you loved would be wipped out and food would be almost impossible to find. You'd only have to live in a bunker a couple of weeks. Don't believe the movies. Two weeks? Good to know because then i have enough food for 3 supermodels. I've watched utbes about preppers. We stock heavily because we buy on sales to save money, they do it because they really think they will emerge after a nuclear holocaust. I can easily seal and bunker under the garage because the foundation goes that deep and the walls are concrete so it's just a matter of going just a bit deeper with the foundation, reinforcing the garage floor and spreading a concrete floor. But then i also need thousand gallon diesel tanks, deep well for water, etc. I'm looking at it and costing it out as a couriosity, but not serious about doing it. The biggest reason isn't money, but the danger it will bring. My property is mid city and humans will be far, far more dangerous then radiation. Remember toilet paper? Multiply that by a million. Remember when we had the 3 day blackout? I had a generator and every one of my neighbors AND relatives wanted to borrow it. Basically let my freezers thaw so they can save theirs. Now imagine that one has a bunker and a thousands of people want in. Whats more dangerous? The radiation or the humans? Anywho...talking going off topic.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 8, 2024 5:04:49 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 12, 2024 12:00:40 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 12, 2024 23:01:29 GMT -5
Given SKA has now been shut out 2 straight games, Demi may get off the 4th line. But if that's not going to happen, HuGo got to get him over here!
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Post by Cranky on Sept 12, 2024 23:53:02 GMT -5
I don't want a Rein repeat where he played for a lousy team and had little progress in his development.
Bring in to NHL junior league, aka, AHL. There he can develop and progress under the eyes of our management.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 17, 2024 11:50:05 GMT -5
In another forum one of the posters said that a story came out yesterday that Demidov was sat because he wouldn't sign a contract extension.
What a stunning suprise that would be. Unbelievable. Unfathomable. Un-more-stuff.
NOT
I wouldn't expect anything less then semi-Mafia tactics.
Anywho, i asked for a link and will post it IF i get it.
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