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Post by Cranky on Aug 21, 2024 14:27:35 GMT -5
Mehhh...McCagg just lurks on HabsRus for his education!
WAY BACK to the Molson Man time I had several reporters asking me who he was. The curious aspect of that is that nobody would know who I am and the connection unless they followed the two sites that I posted on. Easy conclusion is that they lurk in here...but too afraid to post under their names.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 21, 2024 15:13:32 GMT -5
McCagg also deletes posts when he is outright wrong. I remember a post from him singing the praises of several prospects (I think it was 6 or 7 he named claiming they would be stars) Not one contributed in any way. I remember Brent Lernout was one Exactly...he's on the "Sick Podcast" all the time, he's rarely right with his predictions. However, I do like reading and listening to him for the most part, just wish he would stay away from trying to predict what the Habs are gonna try to do. McCagg use to have trouble controlling his emotions. He'd make a statement about a prospect, have a bunch of guys (Who usually didn't have a clue) contradict him and he'd get mad and go off on them. He seems to have calmed that somewhat, probably through experience, especially if you lose $$ as a result of it. His subscriptions would drop off. Lately, he has gotten some things right, ahead of many others, which has made me pay more attention to him. I have grown to like this later version a lot better. He was definitely praising Sennecke ahead of most others and he had Slafkovsky rated #1. He also liked Kotkaniemi a lot, to show the other side. It could be he has a connection with a good scouting group and gets tips, or maybe he's a decent talent evaluator. No scouts are perfect, so those who get it right more often than they get it wrong are valued. BTW, McCagg and Timmins are friends. McCagg told a story once of he, Timmins and Bergevin driving somewhere to see a guy Bergevin wanted to see. Berg acted like McCagg wasn't even in the car. Timmins tried to get him hired as a scout for the Habs but Bergie nixed that. McCagg has his own "Sick Podcast - Recrutes", and he's on Marinaro's Sick Podcast frequently (as is the Snake. Damn, can't remember his name, Boisvert?). Entertaining. |
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Post by seventeen on Aug 21, 2024 15:16:29 GMT -5
From "The Score" 'Slafkovsky: Montreal 'a great place' for Laine to restart career Kyle CushmanMONTREAL, CANADA - APRIL 16: Juraj Slafkovsky #20 of the Montreal Canadiens skates during warmups prior to the game against the Detroit Red Wings at the Bell Centre on April 16, 2024 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. The Detroit Red Wings defeated the Montreal Canadiens 5-4 in a shootout. Montreal Canadiens forward Juraj Slafkovsky is ready to start the new season after the team's addition of Patrik Laine. "It's good to see (Laine) join our team and hopefully he's excited too," Slafkovsky said Wednesday, according to NHL.com's Derek Van Diest. "I'm sure he wants to come and restart his career, and I feel like Montreal is a great place for him to do that." The Canadiens acquired Laine and a second-round pick from the Columbus Blue Jackets for defenseman Jordan Harris on Monday. Laine scored 30 or more goals in his first three NHL seasons, highlighted by a 44-goal campaign at 19 years old, but hasn't reached that mark since 2018-19. He's struggled with injuries in recent seasons and spent time in the NHL/NHLPA player assistance program this year. Montreal's bet on a reclamation project has Slafkovsky amped for October. "I wish we could skip training camp and just start the season because I'm excited to play games that mean something," Slafkovsky said. Slafkovsky has admired Laine's game since he was a young teenager. "In 2016, I was probably 13 or 14 at that time, and I was a big fan of (Laine's), waiting to see whether he or (Auston) Matthews would go first (in the draft)," Slafkovsky said. "So I was a fan of his back in the day." Slafkovsky added, "I know who he is, but I don't know if he knows who I am." The first overall pick in the 2022 draft, Slafkovsky began to excel in the back half of last season. He recorded 16 goals and 37 points in 46 games after Jan. 1. "If I compare my 39 games from my first year to last year, it was like I was a different player," Slafkovsky said. "My last year in Finland, my first year in Montreal, and my second year in Montreal, it was like I was three different players." Slafkovsky enters his third campaign with the Canadiens knowing expectations are rising. "In my first two years, Montreal has been calm, because I think the fans know it is not going to happen overnight," Slafkovsky said. "It takes time, but it's getting to a point when they expect it to be time. We think it is time as well and I can't wait to keep pushing towards that time when we are going to be good." |
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 21, 2024 15:23:05 GMT -5
Man, I love that kid... so glad HuGo picked him
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Post by Cranky on Aug 22, 2024 0:03:47 GMT -5
I never much attention to him but now watched several YouTube on his scoring. I'm guessing he has a 95mph wrist shot and DEADLY accurate.
The other suprise is that he's straight up beating goalies from 40 ft wrist shots. After watching so many Habs try to erase goalie crest, it will be a treat to watch Liane ring them in off the post.
The more videos I watch the more convinced I am that Dach would be the dream center to get the most out of him.
Here's hoping for the best..
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 22, 2024 0:53:09 GMT -5
Well, it seemed to work for Pierre Turgeon  I think Turgeon wore 77. And he reversed them when he became a Hab - pretty sure  |
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Post by seventeen on Aug 22, 2024 1:29:10 GMT -5
I never much attention to him but now watched several YouTube on his scoring. I'm guessing he has a 95mph wrist shot and DEADLY accurate. The other suprise is that he's straight up beating goalies from 40 ft wrist shots. After watching so many Habs try to erase goalie crest, it will be a treat to watch Liane ring them in off the post. The more videos I watch the more convinced I am that Dach would be the dream center to get the most out of him. Here's hoping for the best.. Laine has also had the most success when he was paired with a right hand centre. Nothing but that on the Habs (practically). The fact he works well with RH centres also means he scores a lot from the left. That's why I think MSL should just play him at LW to amplify that particular strength. A line with Dach and Roy makes sense as Roy is great at digging pucks out and creating turnovers (a better scoring Lehky). That moves Newhook down to the 3rd line at LW or at centre, making that line more dangerous. Just so long as Anderson isn't around to kill it. |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 22, 2024 3:50:52 GMT -5
One of the things that changes everything is...after the first line our 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines are horrible. Bottom of the league horrible.
Laine-Dach-Newhook/Roy IF healthy and works together will not only give us a deadly second line, it takes away the the suffocating coverage on our first line.
We still need to work on the the other two lines, hopefully Beck and Roy or Newhook can form a decent third line.
Anywho, adding a point per game player on the power play and finally forming an effective second line, will make us into a bubble team. Kind of tragic that "achievement" is to rise to mediocrity, but at least mediocrity is a stepping stone rather then a home
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 22, 2024 5:15:32 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see how Armia is utilized. Armia was with the Jets when Laine had his best years. From what I read Armia helped Laine out. I can't see Armia on the 2nd line though but maybe Laine being there gets Armia's head on straight and he becomes the beast he has the ability to be (for trade purposes)
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 22, 2024 5:21:07 GMT -5
One of the things that changes everything is...after the first line our 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines are horrible. Bottom of the league horrible. Laine-Dach-Newhook/Roy IF healthy and works together will not only give us a deadly second line, it takes away the the suffocating coverage on our first line. We still need to work on the the other two lines, hopefully Beck and Roy or Newhook can form a decent third line. Anywho, adding a point per game player on the power play and finally forming an effective second line, will make us into a bubble team. Kind of tragic that "achievement" is to rise to mediocrity, but at least mediocrity is a stepping stone rather then a home I don't see Beck making the team this year, we have too many bottom 6 as it is,next year will be better when dvo and armia are gone. |
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Post by Polarice on Aug 22, 2024 5:46:18 GMT -5
Mehhh...McCagg just lurks on HabsRus for his education! WAY BACK to the Molson Man time I had several reporters asking me who he was. The curious aspect of that is that nobody would know who I am and the connection unless they followed the two sites that I posted on. Easy conclusion is that they lurk in here...but too afraid to post under their names. A lot more reporters than you think are on here....Dave Stubbs still comes on here from time to time just to see what's going on. Believe it or not, this site is used quite often used for articles when it comes to the Habs and fans reactions to certain topics. |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 22, 2024 11:07:17 GMT -5
Mehhh...McCagg just lurks on HabsRus for his education! WAY BACK to the Molson Man time I had several reporters asking me who he was. The curious aspect of that is that nobody would know who I am and the connection unless they followed the two sites that I posted on. Easy conclusion is that they lurk in here...but too afraid to post under their names. A lot more reporters than you think are on here....Dave Stubbs still comes on here from time to time just to see what's going on. Believe it or not, this site is used quite often used for articles when it comes to the Habs and fans reactions to certain topics. DAMMIT! Now i have to put pants on and comb my hair! Sure they can come, join the conversation if they want, but don't plagiarize or if they do, give credit to the posters and site. |
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Post by Polarice on Aug 22, 2024 11:21:21 GMT -5
A lot more reporters than you think are on here....Dave Stubbs still comes on here from time to time just to see what's going on. Believe it or not, this site is used quite often used for articles when it comes to the Habs and fans reactions to certain topics. DAMMIT! Now i have to put pants on and comb my hair! Sure they can come, join the conversation if they want, but don't plagiarize or if they do, give credit to the posters and site. We could be famous!!  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 22, 2024 11:39:00 GMT -5
A lot more reporters than you think are on here....Dave Stubbs still comes on here from time to time just to see what's going on. Believe it or not, this site is used quite often used for articles when it comes to the Habs and fans reactions to certain topics. DAMMIT! Now i have to put pants on and comb my hair! Sure they can come, join the conversation if they want, but don't plagiarize or if they do, give credit to the posters and site. The only issue with that is the Mods will get super busy... if Stubbs puts in an article the info came from habsrus, there could be a massive influx, some of which could be trouble makers or pumpkin heads like the kind you see on sportsnet who have multiple accounts, who could be Habs fans or non habs fans |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 22, 2024 12:19:59 GMT -5
DAMMIT! Now i have to put pants on and comb my hair! Sure they can come, join the conversation if they want, but don't plagiarize or if they do, give credit to the posters and site. The only issue with that is the Mods will get super busy... if Stubbs puts in an article the info came from habsrus, there could be a massive influx, some of which could be trouble makers or pumpkin heads like the kind you see on sportsnet who have multiple accounts, who could be Habs fans or non habs fans We don't want that. We want the community to grow organically and in the same mold as the great posters we have now. Long time ago i had a nephew who worked on a "mans" site. Their following was is the umpteen million and we could of had free publicity, but we voted it down. Unless there is a serious breach of conduct we don't take unilateral action. The last thing we need is a parade of newly minted yahoos and wasting umpteen hours in the mods forum on what to do with them. We haven't had to do that since the last millenium. If Stubs or other widely read reporter did mention us and we had a yahoo invasion, we could shut down registration or limit it to posters who are active elsewhere. That's an easy way to weed out the yahoos. BTW...we don't have a monopoly of great posters. I post elsewhere but obviously nowhere near the quality and respect we have here. However, there are exception there that i love to have here, but poaching sites is verboten. That site has 100 times the amount of posters but we still have the best quality of posters. |
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Post by Polarice on Aug 22, 2024 12:37:13 GMT -5
DAMMIT! Now i have to put pants on and comb my hair! Sure they can come, join the conversation if they want, but don't plagiarize or if they do, give credit to the posters and site. The only issue with that is the Mods will get super busy... if Stubbs puts in an article the info came from habsrus, there could be a massive influx, some of which could be trouble makers or pumpkin heads like the kind you see on sportsnet who have multiple accounts, who could be Habs fans or non habs fans Stubbs has been here for at least 15 years, and has even posted a few times, I don't think he ever mentioned this site in one of his articles. Most just write about our overall opinions on certain subjects, players, teams performance etc. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 22, 2024 12:56:45 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see how Armia is utilized. Armia was with the Jets when Laine had his best years. From what I read Armia helped Laine out. I can't see Armia on the 2nd line though but maybe Laine being there gets Armia's head on straight and he becomes the beast he has the ability to be (for trade purposes) It will be interesting to see which Armia shows up next year. The Armia that put up 10 goals / 18 points in the second half of the season could contribute to a reasonably effective third line with Dvorak and Newhook. That said, it seems like an annual tradition that a player overachieves in the latter half of a mean-nothing season and subsequently fails carry their play forward into the next season (e.g. Pitlick and RHP). |
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Post by seventeen on Aug 22, 2024 13:56:55 GMT -5
A lot more reporters than you think are on here....Dave Stubbs still comes on here from time to time just to see what's going on. Believe it or not, this site is used quite often used for articles when it comes to the Habs and fans reactions to certain topics. DAMMIT! Now i have to put pants on and comb my hair! Sure they can come, join the conversation if they want, but don't plagiarize or if they do, give credit to the posters and site. Over the years, I've seen articles based on topics we discussed on the site, after we brought them up. I have never seen any credit given to HabsRus for those articles. I'm not disappointed about that, because that's not the reason I joined up. The great conversations, debates and discussions about our Habs (and others) is what's enjoyable. Besides, after seeing those articles we know we're ahead of the curve most of the time. There's real talent on this site.  . |
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Post by seventeen on Aug 22, 2024 14:03:00 GMT -5
We don't want that. We want the community to grow organically and in the same mold as the great posters we have now. Long time ago i had a nephew who worked on a "mans" site. Their following was is the umpteen million and we could of had free publicity, but we voted it down. Unless there is a serious breach of conduct we don't take unilateral action. The last thing we need is a parade of newly minted yahoos and wasting umpteen hours in the mods forum on what to do with them. We haven't had to do that since the last millenium. If Stubs or other widely read reporter did mention us and we had a yahoo invasion, we could shut down registration or limit it to posters who are active elsewhere. That's an easy way to weed out the yahoos. BTW...we don't have a monopoly of great posters. I post elsewhere but obviously nowhere near the quality and respect we have here. However, there are exception there that i love to have here, but poaching sites is verboten. That site has 100 times the amount of posters but we still have the best quality of posters. We did have one guy who broke the rules repeatedly, didn't listen to our warnings and was banned. He tried to sneak back in under various aliases, but Dis and a couple of other mods smoked him out each time and bounced him. We've had no issues after that. If we had a huge influx of rotten apples, it would require a boost in efforts and we might get so tired of it all that we'd just start pressing the ban button rather than investigating carefully. (That might be fun!). |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 23, 2024 20:18:27 GMT -5
McCagg also deletes posts when he is outright wrong. I remember a post from him singing the praises of several prospects (I think it was 6 or 7 he named claiming they would be stars) Not one contributed in any way. I remember Brent Lernout was one I did not know about him taking down his tweets; however, I've seen how he reacts to being challenged, and he doesn't take it very well ... so much so, that it also seems to be part of the "Sick Podcast Recrutes" format, to try not to miff Grant McCagg, too much (that's only a personal observation)... still, given all that, I think he's connected and, I don't mind listening to him ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 27, 2024 22:14:23 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 28, 2024 6:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by Polarice on Aug 28, 2024 7:27:57 GMT -5
I'm thinking the fans are going to treat Laine just like they treated Kovalev, when he screws up they will criticize him....when he plays well, they will praise him. And from what I can tell, he plays best when he is being praised and not crapped on all the time. The press knows this, so I'm sure they will treat him with kid gloves for the time being. |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 28, 2024 11:39:22 GMT -5
The only danger is the boo birds. He is adult enough to stay of social media so that's limited and controlled exposure. The boo birds are inescapable and in his face.
I don't have faith in all humans. Sadly there are too many stupid people with opinions and even stupidest actions. Laine is an intelligent man but perhaps a bit emotionally immature. Perhaps. I haven't met him but his history implies it.
The huge upside is immaturity is a solvable problem. He now has a girlfriend and perhaps that keeps him grounded.
I rather not care or talk about players emotions but...we got what we got and now hope for the best.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 28, 2024 12:32:49 GMT -5
The only danger is the boo birds. He is adult enough to stay of social media so that's limited and controlled exposure. The boo birds are inescapable and in his face. I don't have faith in all humans. Sadly there are too many stupid people with opinions and even stupidest actions. Laine is an intelligent man but perhaps a bit emotionally immature. Perhaps. I haven't met him but his history implies it. The huge upside is immaturity is a solvable problem. He now has a girlfriend and perhaps that keeps him grounded. I rather not care or talk about players emotions but...we got what we got and now hope for the best. In the words of the immortal Carlo Cipolla, "no matter how many stupid people you think there are in the world, there's always more". Look no further than the Trump approval numbers in the US for confirmation. Unfortunately, you're right, Cranky. Those morons in the crowd who expect perfection from everyone because, you know, they never make any mistakes themselves, will let Laine know about it. But you're also right in that his fiance (and other support systems like a great set of teammates, coaches and management) can help him ignore or look past those idiots and just play his game. I think Patrik has come to the best possible team to continue his career. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 28, 2024 12:56:02 GMT -5
The only danger is the boo birds. He is adult enough to stay of social media so that's limited and controlled exposure. The boo birds are inescapable and in his face. I don't have faith in all humans. Sadly there are too many stupid people with opinions and even stupidest actions. Laine is an intelligent man but perhaps a bit emotionally immature. Perhaps. I haven't met him but his history implies it. The huge upside is immaturity is a solvable problem. He now has a girlfriend and perhaps that keeps him grounded. I rather not care or talk about players emotions but...we got what we got and now hope for the best. In the words of the immortal Carlo Cipolla, "no matter how many stupid people you think there are in the world, there's always more". Look no further than the Trump approval numbers in the US for confirmation. Unfortunately, you're right, Cranky. Those morons in the crowd who expect perfection from everyone because, you know, they never make any mistakes themselves, will let Laine know about it. But you're also right in that his fiance (and other support systems like a great set of teammates, coaches and management) can help him ignore or look past those idiots and just play his game. I think Patrik has come to the best possible team to continue his career. I agree and I'm sure the Habs will have people available for Patrik and he's got MSL as well, who can understand his perspective from a former players point of view. |
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Post by habsask on Aug 28, 2024 17:04:06 GMT -5
Well,
I hate to rain on our parade but.....beginning with the 2021-22 season Laine has played in 46, 56, 55 & 18 games. The operation presumable has fixed the latter but I wonder if expecting 70+ games is too optimistic? If it turns out to be 50 some games we take a hit on the no. of goals. Since he's big fans my expect him to play a 'tough' game which may not be a good thing.
Just saying.
Which is why I like many others really like the second rounder Hughes got as well.
My 2 cents from an old guy.
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Post by folatre on Aug 28, 2024 20:02:52 GMT -5
For sure, habsask. A guy like Laine is injury-prone until he plays 70+ and proves that he isn't. Ditto for Dach.
Montreal fans in my close circle are realistic about the group's playoffs chances this season. Basically a lot would have to break right for it to happen. So, in my estimation, expectations are relatively moderate, which means I do not think the boo birds will be dominating the Bell Centre unless guys are dogging it.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 28, 2024 23:50:51 GMT -5
The only danger is the boo birds. He is adult enough to stay of social media so that's limited and controlled exposure. The boo birds are inescapable and in his face. I don't have faith in all humans. Sadly there are too many stupid people with opinions and even stupidest actions. Laine is an intelligent man but perhaps a bit emotionally immature. Perhaps. I haven't met him but his history implies it. The huge upside is immaturity is a solvable problem. He now has a girlfriend and perhaps that keeps him grounded. I rather not care or talk about players emotions but...we got what we got and now hope for the best. In the words of the immortal Carlo Cipolla, "no matter how many stupid people you think there are in the world, there's always more". Look no further than the Trump approval numbers in the US for confirmation. Unfortunately, you're right, Cranky. Those morons in the crowd who expect perfection from everyone because, you know, they never make any mistakes themselves, will let Laine know about it. But you're also right in that his fiance (and other support systems like a great set of teammates, coaches and management) can help him ignore or look past those idiots and just play his game. I think Patrik has come to the best possible team to continue his career. Not sure I see Patty's fiancee as an asset. She seems a hyper social media type. While that may work for her, I think it is counter-productive for someone as fragile as Patty. We've seen this movie before with Angela Price  |
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Post by Cranky on Aug 29, 2024 1:07:01 GMT -5
Not sure I see Patty's fiancee as an asset. She seems a hyper social media type. While that may work for her, I think it is counter-productive for someone as fragile as Patty. We've seen this movie before with Angela Price As a Habs fan, I signed up to a hockey team winning CUPS...NOT a version of Dr Phil and The Troubled Athlete. I really don't want to delve into or make his personal life part of my hockey discussion, but here we are. Neither should the media delve into it nor should he discuss his private life in public. I'm sure that Hughes already aware and on top of it. I despise all the media these days, but them discussing and speculating about Laines mental health would be beyond obscene. Guaranteed circus run by bobble head media clowns. Hopefully his great play is the only thing we are going to care about and discuss. |
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