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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 25, 2024 15:23:06 GMT -5
I don't see any evidence of a system. they are atrocious defensively and the numbers bear that out. And he can't blame Xhekaj for that because he wasnt playing. I am losing patience with this coach. His scapegoating of Xhekaj reminds me of Therrien and Subban. Right now I see a disorganized bunch of creampuffs that aren't bothered that much by embarassing losses. So yeah, lets trade the toughest guy in the room and someone that actually gives a crap. When guys are playing like this it's time for the coach to look in the mirror. And he's benched another guy who cares... Pezzetta... I guess MSL has forgotten that he had Andre Roy on the same team protecting his ass when Tampon won their first cup |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 25, 2024 16:01:01 GMT -5
I don't see any evidence of a system. they are atrocious defensively and the numbers bear that out. And he can't blame Xhekaj for that because he wasnt playing. I am losing patience with this coach. His scapegoating of Xhekaj reminds me of Therrien and Subban. Right now I see a disorganized bunch of creampuffs that aren't bothered that much by embarassing losses. So yeah, lets trade the toughest guy in the room and someone that actually gives a crap. When guys are playing like this it's time for the coach to look in the mirror. And he's benched another guy who cares... Pezzetta... I guess MSL has forgotten that he had Andre Roy on the same team protecting his ass when Tampon won their first cup More then that... Cory Sarich 6'4" and 210 Chris Dingman 6'3' and 245 Pavel Kubina 6'4" and 260 Andre Roy 6'4" and 225 Jason Cullimore 6'5" and 235 There was a LOT of big guys on the Tampa team and very well protected when he won the cup. Maybe he felt like a midget and this is his revenge? Or he forgot that he could play his game without fear of getting destroyed. I'm sure CC and Hutson agree with 195 pound Matheson playing the tough guy. |
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Post by jkr on Oct 25, 2024 16:03:35 GMT -5
There are reports this week that Hughes is calling around the league looking for defensemen available in a trade. I wouldn't be surprised to see Xhekaj traded before Remembrance Day. It is pretty evident that Martin St. Louis doesn't like him ... everyone but MSL likes Jackie If everyone likes Xhekaj except MSL than maybe MSL is the problem. They are not improving. In some ways they are worse. That is on the coaching staff. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 25, 2024 16:19:58 GMT -5
There are reports this week that Hughes is calling around the league looking for defensemen available in a trade. I wouldn't be surprised to see Xhekaj traded before Remembrance Day. It is pretty evident that Martin St. Louis doesn't like him ... everyone but MSL likes Jackie If everyone likes Xhekaj except MSL than maybe MSL is the problem. They are not improving. In some ways they are worse. That is on the coaching staff. Maybe it wasn't Burrows fault... |
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Post by folatre on Oct 25, 2024 18:21:45 GMT -5
I seriously doubt Hughes trades Xhekaj unless a crazy offer surfaces.
There are many reasons I see it this way. Big, nasty, mobile, undrafted d-men take time to develop and Xhekaj has only played 100 games in the league; the rule of thumb for developing d-men into a finished product is 250 or at least 200 games. Moreover, everyone in the local, national, and American media is saying Montreal is too soft to play against, so how incredibly counterintuitive would it be to trade your toughest player. And last but not least PR 101 would tell him don't trade fan favorites while your club is in a tailspin.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 25, 2024 18:28:13 GMT -5
I thought I posted this but apparently not...
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Ohh ****...it just hit me.
One of the rules you never, ever...and i mean EVER violate as a manager is complaining publicly about an employee. It's one of those rules right besides ass grabbing and physical abuse that you just don't violate as a manager.
Its demeaning and demoralizing. No matter who it is and no matter what level. And guess what, Marty just did it to Arber.
Right now, Marty graduated to BargainBin level of stupid, incompetent management.
Where the hell is Hughes? Did he see this and was ok with it? Did Mol$on?
What a clown show...
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 25, 2024 19:03:20 GMT -5
I thought I posted this but apparently not... ___________ Ohh ****...it just hit me. One of the rules you never, ever...and i mean EVER violate as a manager is complaining publicly about an employee. It's one of those rules right besides ass grabbing and physical abuse that you just don't violate as a manager. Its demeaning and demoralizing. No matter who it is and no matter what level. And guess what, Marty just did it to Arber. Right now, Marty graduated to BargainBin level of stupid, incompetent management. Where the hell is Hughes? Did he see this and was ok with it? Did Mol$on? What a clown show... Like I said before... if he didn't talk to Xhekaj about this beforehand then MSL is a moron and it is MTHead level of stupidity... MSL should have just yelled "Play the right f'n way".... Incredible that Arber being a popular guy in the room MSL may have just pissed off a bunch of players... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 25, 2024 19:44:55 GMT -5
This is very problematic... www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/analyzing-the-montreal-canadiens-defence-under-martin-st-louis/Ok Marty, let's be complicated and get lots of goals against... What really bothers me is that I didn't see any of this hybrid system in preseason, if you're going to implement something your players have never seen before, maybe you should have solidified your lineup before the end of the preseason and given them time to work on it during the preseason rather than waiting until the season starts. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 26, 2024 12:58:56 GMT -5
If we get blown out this and the next game, Marty the Imperviois is going to be Marty the Bullseye.
I don't want him replaced, yet, i want him to get help. But if he has the mindset that it's the dumb players who can't execute his brilliance then take Door A.
Too bad that i don't know him personally to deliver something i learned early from my boss, if you think you are the smartest guy in the room then PROVE IT by figuring out how to use them.
HELLO BOWMAN...
What i want to hear from Marty is..."some players are finding it hard to adjust and execute my system so it needs to be worked on by the players and me".
ZERO arrogance. ZERO hubris. ZERO direct blaming. LOTS of humility. LOTS of introspection. LOTS of hopium for the fans.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 26, 2024 14:08:59 GMT -5
If we get blown out this and the next game, Marty the Imperviois is going to be Marty the Bullseye. I don't want him replaced, yet, i want him to get help. But if he has the mindset that it's the dumb players who can't execute his brilliance then take Door A. Too bad that i don't know him personally to deliver something i learned early from my boss, if you think you are the smartest guy in the room then PROVE IT by figuring out how to use them. HELLO BOWMAN... What i want to hear from Marty is..."some players are finding it hard to adjust and execute my system so it needs to be worked on by the players and me". ZERO arrogance. ZERO hubris. ZERO direct blaming. LOTS of humility. LOTS of introspection. LOTS of hopium for the fans. The question I have is Pascal Vincent implementing this in Laval? If not then the guys coming up will be lost. |
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 26, 2024 15:58:33 GMT -5
First I heard that this is the system used in Fla. Not sure i agree with that as they sure as heck don't look the same. But assuming it is the same system, i'd be curious to know if FLS experinced the dog show we have been seeing the last few weeks? i don't recall that. So are the coaches unable to teach it? Or are the plyers unable to learn it. Seems to me you implement a system that suits your personnel. Indeed, you should have numerous systems to be implemented as the seaosn goes on, given changes to roster and playing different teams. Is Marty up to that?
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Post by Cranky on Oct 26, 2024 16:39:08 GMT -5
The problem with the "systems" is that it's trying to get the "benefit" of zone defense, which is essentially no different from a 5 man penalty kill and relies on great goaltending...but it's a nightmare when you get possession. Your wingers are not on the boards so you either carry the puck out or you get rid of the puck. Hello MTheads "off the glass".
It gets worse...
If your wingers break their legs and face trying to get to the boards, the opposing defenseman are closer to the boards and can intercept the pass. Worse, now they can intercept and have a clear shot.
Maybe when teleportation gets invented...because Marty wants his winger to literally be in two places at once...or have our non existent elite skating defenseman to waltz oit the puck.
It's a seriously flawed system that looks great on paper but a clusterpluck to implement.
Let's see if Marty is the smartest man man in the world...or unemployed.
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 26, 2024 17:00:12 GMT -5
This is very problematic... www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/analyzing-the-montreal-canadiens-defence-under-martin-st-louis/Ok Marty, let's be complicated and get lots of goals against... What really bothers me is that I didn't see any of this hybrid system in preseason, if you're going to implement something your players have never seen before, maybe you should have solidified your lineup before the end of the preseason and given them time to work on it during the preseason rather than waiting until the season starts. What is he even saying here? Lots of words, very little meaning His systems guy must be George Costanza. "Everyone's doing a show about something, we're gonna do a show about nothing!" |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:20:58 GMT -5
Tough start for Xhekaj .. two pucks given away. Let's see how long a rope Marty has with him
Laine has been spotted in The Bell Centre with no brace, and no limp
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:22:40 GMT -5
Kapanen with a scoring chance, but not a scorers touch
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:30:30 GMT -5
Great save on the PK by Montembeault. As the PK ends, Evans and Pezetta (the guy in the box) get a 2 on 1. Evans uses Pezetta as a decoy and roofs it
1-0 MTL
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:33:33 GMT -5
Another great save by Monty. Pretty similar to the chance Evans had. But Monty stops it.
Not sure if Binnington and Montembeault know, but Dubas is in the rink watching them both tonight
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:35:32 GMT -5
Not a very good pass by Newhook to Hutson on the 3 on 2 ...
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:37:58 GMT -5
Montreal players are really good with the dipsy doodling, but not so good at what to do after the pretty / cute move
Mailloux makes a nice deke around a Blue, then passes it into a crowd. It was suppose to go to Suzuki I guess, but there was no chance of that getting to Suzuki. He had to shoot there
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:41:50 GMT -5
Dach AGAIN gives up possession on the PP at the blueline
Get him off the first PP unit
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 18:49:04 GMT -5
Dach hasn't scored a goal in 19 months and 3 days
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 26, 2024 18:52:20 GMT -5
Dach AGAIN gives up possession on the PP at the blueline Get him off the first PP unit Too soft on the puck. Halfassed |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 19:09:29 GMT -5
Dach hasn't scored a goal in 19 months and 3 days The jinx worked. Finally Dach pots one 2-0 MTL |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 19:10:34 GMT -5
Scramble in front of Monty
Poor defense
2-1
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 19:14:51 GMT -5
This team has a real hard time making passes in stride .. it's always too far in front or a little behind
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 19:16:16 GMT -5
Matheson blows a tire ... Monty makes a good save. Nobody goes behind the net to get the puck, and nobody covers the front of the net
2-2
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 26, 2024 19:16:19 GMT -5
That is some horrible defensive zone coverage
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 26, 2024 19:18:14 GMT -5
That is some horrible defensive zone coverage Our so called first line is just dozy |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 19:21:31 GMT -5
That is some horrible defensive zone coverage Our so called first line is just dozy There is no physicality, no heart ... just stick checking and the other team gets to play keep away while we look like beer leaguers. it's really embarrassing. They will finish bottom three in the league |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 26, 2024 19:23:12 GMT -5
I just turned it on...and want to slap Mailman silly. You never, ever give up on the play. EVER.
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