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Post by Skilly on Nov 16, 2024 21:53:14 GMT -5
Slafkovsky and Dach still playing like monkey crap while we argue which D should be PP1 Lol I'm not too worried about Slaf. He will eventually be put back on the first line Dach on the other hand. We are basing him carrying the second line based on 4 periods last year. We may have to come to the realization we got ChicagoDach |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 16, 2024 22:03:16 GMT -5
Slafkovsky and Dach still playing like monkey crap while we argue which D should be PP1 Lol I'm not too worried about Slaf. He will eventually be put back on the first line Dach on the other hand. We are basing him carrying the second line based on 4 periods last year. We may have to come to the realization we got ChicagoDach I hope not , this team can't wait for Hage because it sounds like he's not going to be rushed into the nhl. rg.org/news/hockey/canadiens-michael-hage-on-early-ncaa-success-hockey-canada-snub-and-more |
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Post by folatre on Nov 16, 2024 22:13:57 GMT -5
It was a weak Columbus team on a back to back, but nevertheless the boys played good hockey and the game checked most boxes in terms of the special teams, the goalie, the captain with the go ahead goal, and depth players chipping in with goals to put the game away.
I liked how engaged most of the guys were. Xhekaj matched up with Olivier. Heineman is thick and sturdy on his skates. I think there is no question that he is getting qualified next summer.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 17, 2024 1:51:46 GMT -5
Slafkovsky and Dach still playing like monkey crap while we argue which D should be PP1 I think Slaf is playing with an injury. Dach needs some sports psychology around his knee. Until he stops going less than 100% because he doesn’t trust the knee, he’ll never reach his ceiling. |
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Post by Cranky on Nov 17, 2024 14:35:28 GMT -5
One of the rare occasions were i watched Olivier. I thought he was the poor mans Bennett, but he is what he is, a servicable 4th liner.
He's FA this summer and i thought that maybe there was room for him but with Tuch probably graduating and Little X possibly improving, there is no room for him. Plus getting older with a limited toolkit makes him less usable.
I'm not thrilled losing X for several minutes at a time. Particularly since he's getting more and more ice time.
Last night i thought that X played a really good, tough game. Still a bit slow, still chasing guys a bit too long, still hasn't figured that he's getting fished to chase them, but a really good game. Particularly smart is getting "accidentally" tangled behind our net with one of their forwards. He just converted the next ten seconds into a 4 on 4 with us having the puck.
At least SMarty didn't put Hutson on the pk.
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Post by folatre on Nov 17, 2024 15:28:00 GMT -5
Olivier plays on the PK and chips in with fourth line minutes. The dude is a great fighter, but yeah like you say, Cranky, it would not make much sense to sign him as a UFA. He will understandably want a raise and as much term as he can get from a suitor because he will be 28 years old and his line of work is dangerous. I would estimate he is looking for an inflation adjusted Deslauriers contract, so this is probably $8 million over four seasons and I do not doubt for a second that multiple clubs will offer it.
At some point the whole point of drafting and developing kids is to ensure that you do not have to overpay the skaters in the least significant roles in your lineup. If the management sees Tuch as NHL-ready next season and the Deputy the following season, then there is no compelling reason to give a guy like Olivier his retirement contract. Hockey is debatable, and I understand why many will see re-signing Evans as a worthwhile investment; however, I would not see value in $12-14 million over four seasons for Evans because there are kids who can replace him.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 17, 2024 15:47:23 GMT -5
The Habs should play the Columbus cannon sound when the Habs score on them at the Bell centre
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Post by seventeen on Nov 17, 2024 19:59:53 GMT -5
At some point the whole point of drafting and developing kids is to ensure that you do not have to overpay the skaters in the least significant roles in your lineup. If the management sees Tuch as NHL-ready next season and the Deputy the following season, then there is no compelling reason to give a guy like Olivier his retirement contract. Hockey is debatable, and I understand why many will see re-signing Evans as a worthwhile investment; however, I would not see value in $12-14 million over four seasons for Evans because there are kids who can replace him. There are two guys in our pipeline who are Evans+ in replacement value. Beck and Kapinen will both be equally as good as Evans at the defensive end and superior in the offensive zone. They will both be no more expensive and be able to do more. Evans is a home grown guy who gives you all he has and plays a smart game. He'll be 29 next season and as you say, folatre, you cannot overpay the skaters in the lesser roles. It makes a lot of sense to trade Evans at the deadline, where at worst he should get you a 3rd round pick and if some team is desperate for that 3/4 centre who can kill penalties, maybe even a 2nd rounder. One possible comp is Ryan McLeod, who went from Edmonton to Buffalo for a former 1st round pick (9th overall in 2022) Matt Savoie. The jury is still out on Savoie and McLeod is 3 years younger than Evans, and that's why I'm not suggesting a 1st is possible. But who knows? Bill Zito is still out there. |
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Post by folatre on Nov 17, 2024 20:54:58 GMT -5
For sure, seventeen, I think Kapanen has the IQ and skill set to play third line center in the league. Now will he be as good as Evans next season? No, probably not in every facet. But by 2026-27, there is little doubt in my mind that he can be Evans+. And Beck is more of a wildcard because down the road I could see him moving all the way up into a second line role, although there it would probably be as a MacGyver-type winger, and given the way he hits, agitates, and kills penalties he could be a beauty in the NHL as a 4C.
I think Evans, given his relatively modest cap hit, could fetch a 2nd if a team sees him as a key piece in their bottom six at center and a crucial addition to their PK. Armia has his meh nights where he looks disengaged, but honestly if it was not for his elevated cap hit for his role then I think he could yield a 3rd. However, Hughes has his hands tied with only one retention slot and he probably wants to preserve it for a Savard trade where giving that cap relief could make the difference between landing a first rounder as opposed to a second and a third.
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