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Post by AH on Sept 9, 2003 10:35:05 GMT -5
According to TSN ...
Should BG be all over this ? I know he is pint-sized (Koivu like), but there is no denying the talent and heart ... We would then have a Koivu/Comrie 1-2 punch ... not bad at all ...
Oilers needs:
Goalie for the future (Garon)
Young, cheap center (Ribeiro)
young defenseman who can play some minutes immediately (Hainsey or Beauchemin)
If we can address 2 of those 3 needs (or maybe even 3 if they take Beauchemin), Comrie could be had.
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Post by MPLABBE on Sept 9, 2003 10:47:30 GMT -5
I love Comrie, but Koivu-Comrie down the middle is way too small in the east. Unless you can back it up with a monster 6'5' center behind them.
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Post by AH on Sept 9, 2003 10:51:31 GMT -5
I don't get this obsession with size down the middle ?
Kilger is 6'4, but is pretty much junk.
There are other example ...
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Post by MPLABBE on Sept 9, 2003 10:54:05 GMT -5
I don't get this obsession with size down the middle ? true, but if you have Koivu(5'10') and Comrie (5'9') as your top 2 centers, you are likely gonna get dominated physically if the rest of your wingers are not that big either. Koivu-Comrie would be wicked in the west, but in the east? not too sure it would work. Comrie would also cost us a bunch of future assets. |
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Post by Lord Stanley on Sept 9, 2003 11:02:21 GMT -5
Koivu-Comrie would be wicked in the west, but in the east? not too sure it would work. Comrie would also cost us a bunch of future assets. If they'd have big Wingers to play with it would be OK...but hey..these two guys can rack up 80 points a season..so if you ask me they could be 3"4 Freak |
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Post by AH on Sept 9, 2003 11:03:47 GMT -5
Comrie would also cost us a bunch of future assets. And Comrie wouldn't be a future asset himself ? he is all of 23 years old ... |
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Post by Montrealer on Sept 9, 2003 11:11:56 GMT -5
I dream about stuff like this. All the great teams of today have stolen young, talented players from the crappier teams in the league.
It's about time it's our turn, damnit!
Comrie has superstar-level talent, believe you me. He could be a 100-point producer two or three years down the road.
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Post by AH on Sept 9, 2003 11:17:10 GMT -5
The guy has elite level talent and somehow he is not good enough to play for the Habs becasue he is only 5-10 ....
The Devils and their 'little' team up the middle did pretty good last season playing out of the East ... I would say that Gomez, Elias, Madden, Rheaume did alright.
(and 6-1 Joe N. does not count because he was pretty brutal for most of the season and missed half the playoffs, including the Finals).
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Post by Maritimer on Sept 9, 2003 11:46:55 GMT -5
Sakic 5'11
Forsberg 6'0
Yzerman 5'11
Federov 6'0
There are many examples of size blah blah but really if the opportunity to add a talent like Comrie I think that there are creative ways to find size in other places.
East West??? Who cares...I didn't see anyone manhandle Koivu last year and I dind't see anyone manhandle Doug Gilmour his entire career until maybe last year. Yanic Perreault is only 5'11 but still manages to win his faceoffs. John Madden is 5'11 and seen to be one of th ebest defensive centers in the league.
What good is Eric Lindros' size doing him today?
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Post by DeportivoHabs on Sept 9, 2003 11:55:59 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with Comrie's size....this kid plays with speed and skill and plays bigger that what he is. I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Given what Lowe got for Anson Carter...a reasonable deal could be worked out in my opinion.
Both Zednik and Ward have good size/speed and use the body. One on Koivu's line and one on Comrie's line would be great.
bulis / koivu / zednik
ward / comrie / audette
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Post by StickHandler on Sept 9, 2003 12:17:57 GMT -5
I don't understand how a big 3rd line center would help the two small no1 and 2 centers!
They wouldn't even be on the ice at the same time!!
What a small center needs is big wingers, not another center who's big.
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Post by Ryan on Sept 9, 2003 12:29:32 GMT -5
Comrie's a bulldog and a huge competitor. I remember a commentator (Cuthbert I believe) saying that Comrie lives and breathes hockey. That's the kind of player I'd take on my team anyday.
I don't know that we'd have what they want in return, but I would definitely find out. Remember that the Oil and Habs shared a farm team and are very familliar with eachother's prospects. There may be someone in the Habs organization that the Oilers really liked, so a deal is not so far fetched.
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Post by mikeg on Sept 9, 2003 12:31:50 GMT -5
no more smurfs please.... PLEASE
and from what i have read about comrie, he doesn`t bring much to the dressing room either.
case in point.. demanding a trade.. i`m always weary of whiner`s.. if you can`t keep it private then there is something wrong there to begin with. hell if you`re a 10 year vet, it`s different, but he`s what.. in his third.. fourth year.. he should just shut his mouth and quietly go to the gm and ask for a trade.
mike
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Post by Ryan on Sept 9, 2003 12:45:21 GMT -5
no more smurfs please.... PLEASE and from what i have read about comrie, he doesn`t bring much to the dressing room either. case in point.. demanding a trade.. i`m always weary of whiner`s.. if you can`t keep it private then there is something wrong there to begin with. hell if you`re a 10 year vet, it`s different, but he`s what.. in his third.. fourth year.. he should just shut his mouth and quietly go to the gm and ask for a trade. mike I don't think that Comrie did go public did he? With the media like it is today, nothing stays out of the press very long. We don't know the other side of the story, if he's saying he was singled out after the playoffs last year, maybe it was done is a rather public way that he didn't appreciate. By the way Mike, how are the Wolves looking this year? |
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Post by Ryan on Sept 9, 2003 12:47:24 GMT -5
....and I also think this is pure speculation, the Oilers won't give up Comrie without another young, cheap 1st line center coming back. They're weak at center with Marchant gone, so they need a direct replacement.
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Post by Maritimer on Sept 9, 2003 12:51:14 GMT -5
I wonder if Hainsey, Ryder, and Perreault with some salary paid would get it done?
They would probably have a great appreciation of what Mike Ryder can do with the Hamilton connection.
Perreault gives them immediate experience at center while I think Mike York can play center for them as well.
Comrie is a bit of a whiner and has a big mouth on the ice but is he ever talented!
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Post by MC Habber on Sept 9, 2003 12:54:25 GMT -5
I think the Oilers would be crazy to let Comrie go. It's bad enough that they lose all of their stars when they can't afford to pay them anymore, but to trade a super-talented young player who seems like a perfect fit in Edmonton would be really silly. Whatever it is that Comrie's unhappy about, if I were Lowe I'd find a way to fix it.
Ribeiro + Beauchemin + pick for Comrie
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Post by DeportivoHabs on Sept 9, 2003 13:03:26 GMT -5
I think the Oilers would be crazy to let Comrie go. It's bad enough that they lose all of their stars when they can't afford to pay them anymore, but to trade a super-talented young player who seems like a perfect fit in Edmonton would be really silly. Whatever it is that Comrie's unhappy about, if I were Lowe I'd find a way to fix it. Ribeiro + Beauchemin + pick for Comrie This was the exact deal I was thinking of. These two guys are unlikely to have a 'major' impact with team - unlike Comrie. It would be worth the sacrifice. A mid round pick would solidify the deal. Maybe they would like Breezer? |
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Post by MC Habber on Sept 9, 2003 13:12:58 GMT -5
This was the exact deal I was thinking of. These two guys are unlikely to have a 'major' impact with team - unlike Comrie. It would be worth the sacrifice. A mid round pick would solidify the deal. Maybe they would like Breezer? Throw in Traverse if they want him, I still say we need Breezer for the time being, unless we can get a good (offensive) defenceman in return for him. I'm also reluctant to part with Hainsey. I do think that Ribeiro has the potential to be better than Comrie down the road, but we have enough players with potential - we need someone like Comrie who we know will be a great player. |
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Post by rtravale on Sept 9, 2003 13:16:07 GMT -5
I think Comrie could be that gamebreaker type of player that we have been looking for. I have no problems letting go of Ribeiro + Beauchemin + pick for Comrie.
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Post by Lord Stanley on Sept 9, 2003 13:23:11 GMT -5
I think Comrie could be that gamebreaker type of player that we have been looking for. I have no problems letting go of Ribeiro + Beauchemin + pick for Comrie. You guys really think that would be enough!?!?! Ribeiro can't crack our first two lines and Beauchemin is like 9th on our depth chart.. For a 23 years old 1st line center on many teams I don't see a deal like this happening..If they do trade him, which I doubt, they will ask for current equal value...or very good prospects (read here: Komo, Killer Kat, Perezhogin type of prospects) But I love Comrie so I would think about trading prospects for him...but that's just me Freak |
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Post by MPLABBE on Sept 9, 2003 13:29:21 GMT -5
....and I also think this is pure speculation, the Oilers won't give up Comrie without another young, cheap 1st line center coming back. They're weak at center with Marchant gone, so they need a direct replacement. Exactly, we really don't have much chance getting him unless Lowe loves Ribeiro, which is highly doubtful. Ribs and Beauchemin is not enough. Sticky, I should have been more clear..you would need a big center to go up against the other big centers in the league(Thornton, Sundin, Lecavalier,etc) |
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Post by Douper on Sept 9, 2003 13:29:48 GMT -5
I think Comrie will go to the Wings for Jiri Fisher and a young forward (Not Datsuyk or Zetterberg)
I don't think we can offer enough quality without losing some of our Young good players.
If Yzerman goes down...They don't have a true #2 Center to take his place....unless Hudler is ready...
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Post by Montrealer on Sept 9, 2003 13:36:51 GMT -5
I'm betting on him going to Colorado, because they are apparently avid collectors of offensive firepower. ;D
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Post by legaspesien on Sept 9, 2003 13:53:50 GMT -5
That's pure negociation using the press...Comrie is a local boy...1st line center
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Post by mic on Sept 9, 2003 13:55:24 GMT -5
Sticky, I should have been more clear..you would need a big center to go up against the other big centers in the league(Thornton, Sundin, Lecavalier,etc) Thornton, Sundin and Lecavalier have never won any Stanley Cups. Whereas Sakic, Madden and Larionov have won 7 (or 8?). Doesn't have much sense, but I just wanted to point out that the team is still more important than indivudals. One big center won't bring you to the cup. Gifted players playing under a strong system will. Good coaching is more important than size. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Sept 9, 2003 15:42:35 GMT -5
Thornton, Sundin and Lecavalier have never won any Stanley Cups. Whereas Sakic, Madden and Larionov have won 7 (or 8?). Doesn't have much sense, but I just wanted to point out that the team is still more important than indivudals. One big center won't bring you to the cup. Gifted players playing under a strong system will. Good coaching is more important than size. Definitely agreed, however I can't think of any team that won a cup with 5'10' and 5'9' top 2 centers. |
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Post by AH on Sept 9, 2003 15:44:32 GMT -5
Definitely agreed, however I can't think of any team that won a cup with 5'10' and 5'9' top 2 centers. Habs of the 70s . Lemaire, Risebrough. |
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Post by MPLABBE on Sept 9, 2003 15:47:52 GMT -5
Habs of the 70s . Lemaire, Risebrough. way before my time.  |
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Post by AH on Sept 9, 2003 15:50:16 GMT -5
way before my time. still proves the point that size at center is way overrated. |
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