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Post by CentreHice on May 27, 2006 22:53:41 GMT -5
Before Game 5, I said that if anybody could come back from 3-0 it would be the Ducks over Edmonton. I thought Roloson was playing over his head.
I take it back. Yes, they got a lucky break in Game 6 vs. Detroit on the winning goal IMO (although I'll take the argument that the replay on how the puck went in was inconclusive). The fact remains, they won two games in Detroit. They played San Jose tough and won....now, despite a flu bug, they shut down the Ducks almost as well as the Ducks shut down Colorado. Roloson has been the real deal so far. And the Oilers' PK is outstanding. The Ducks had the game-tying goal handed to them....too-many-men with 3 minutes and change left....then Pronger fired it over the glass for a short 6-on-3 with Giguere pulled. The Oilers played it perfectly.
Whoever they play in the finals is going to have to match their work ethic, their emotion, their PK, and their goaltending. Good luck to them.
I gotta say, the Ducks reminded me an awful lot of the Habs in this game. Many opportunities to shoot on the PP...but they kept looking for the "perfect" play. Final score 2-1. Seen that movie before.
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Post by habernac on May 28, 2006 1:55:08 GMT -5
the week off is going to hurt them I think. But I will not be surprised to see this Oiler team win it. They work damn hard, Pronger has been a stud, Roloson is on his game. Guys like Smyth and Smith will both skate through walls to win.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2006 13:57:57 GMT -5
Oilers deserve a bit of a rest. They're battling the flu. They'll be back up in no time. Here's hoping they'll bring the cup back to Canada!
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Post by Skilly on May 28, 2006 16:40:11 GMT -5
I really hate all the teams left in the playoffs. But if you want to talk conspiracy theories then here is one for you.
Round one Lindey Ruff, Craig MacTavish, and Peter (Soapy) Laviolette all had something to say about the officiating. Does it pay to complain in the NHL now?
But here is the real fix. Prior to the lockout what did all four of these small market teams have in common? Relocation rumours.
Buffalo was on the verge of bankruptcy and the NHL was debating taking over operation of the team.
Anaheim had a rumour that they might be relocating to the hockey hotbed of Las Vegas
Carolina is a franchise that moved once before and prior to the lock-out they had one of the worst attendance figures and I believe Karmanos was taking about relocating the team.
And Edmonton. Well this team has more moving rumours than any team in the league.
Now they are the final four? Bettman's little "thank you" for sticking with him?
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Post by sergejean on May 28, 2006 17:40:43 GMT -5
I really hate all the teams left in the playoffs. Same here. And the more I think of it, I hate all the teams but the Habs... Actually, I'm kind of annoyed that a lot of people are cheering for the Oilers to bring back the Stanley Cup in Canada... I love the fact that the Habs was the last Canadian team to win it and for that reason only, I wish that Buffalo wins it all... |
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Post by CentreHice on May 28, 2006 22:00:45 GMT -5
Carolina is the team I despise the most....yet they're up 3-2 now. The Sabres chased Gerber just after two minutes into the second period....and they couldn't get the job done against Ward.
Afinogenov blew a breakaway with 3 and change left.....had it been Lafleur, Perreault, Gretzky, Lemieux...buried. I know...easy for me to say.
Bottom line: I want the Sabres in the Final. I think it would be a more entertaining series. Carolina seems a little too charmed for my liking (Williams, goaltending changes, etc.)
I've also had just about enough of the "Staal Family" every broadcast. What is it....like 17 future Hall of Fame brothers growing up on a sod farm in Thunder Bay?
I wish the Staal family no ill will...good luck to them.....but there aren't enough pancakes to sop up all the CBC syrup.
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Post by Toronthab on May 30, 2006 23:46:22 GMT -5
Oilers deserve a bit of a rest. They're battling the flu. They'll be back up in no time. Here's hoping they'll bring the cup back to Canada! Go Oilers GO! Ya gotta like these guys, praising another doesn't diminish us....o yeah...the leafs....forget it...never mind.... |
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Post by franko on May 31, 2006 7:14:01 GMT -5
Hate Edmonton. Always did; always will. (and that didn;t go over very well when I lived in central Alberta, I'll tell you!).
Teams I refuse to cheer for no matter what, in order:
1. Toronto (or is it 30?)
2. Philadelphia
3. Edmonton
So you know who I'm not cheering for in the finals.
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Post by Toronthab on May 31, 2006 12:39:30 GMT -5
Hate Edmonton. Always did; always will. (and that didn;t go over very well when I lived in central Alberta, I'll tell you!). Teams I refuse to cheer for no matter what, in order: 1. Toronto (or is it 30?) 2. Philadelphia 3. Edmonton So you know who I'm not cheering for in the finals. Toronto? Phillie? |
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Post by Toronthab on May 31, 2006 12:45:55 GMT -5
the week off is going to hurt them I think. But I will not be surprised to see this Oiler team win it. They work damn hard, Pronger has been a stud, Roloson is on his game. Guys like Smyth and Smith will both skate through walls to win. I haven't a clue, but a week to beat (or further spread) the flu will I hope give them back some strtength. Going on my much vaunted male intuition (that's intuition, not inquisition, ok?) I'd bet 10 bucks on Edmond's town. How much doe is ten bucks, and should they be ordained? I still can't believe they pregnant doggy-slapped Detroit!! Hey! pregnant doggy? why is the pregnant doggy pregnant? Thayt's really very clever. Kudos to the grammarian who thought it up. Heh heh heh. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 1, 2006 21:23:05 GMT -5
First of all....best wishes to Jay McKee, who awoke in extreme pain on Thursday night from an infected cut on his shin. That is serious stuff....
To hockey:
What a heroic effort by the Sabres in this series....down 3 d-men for most of it...and down 4 d-men for Game 7.
Done in by the ridiculous OVER THE GLASS penalty...which I said would come back and bite somebody in Game 7. How coincidentally unjust that the Sabres were also burned by the foot-in-the-crease NOT being called on Brett Hull in 99.
The Canes should have won this game hands down, considering the health of Buffalo. A tremendous effort by the Sabres who, if as healthy as Carolina, would have been meeting the Oilers right now IMO.
And it's Justin "I can't control my stick" Williams who gets the insurance goal...and two assists to boot.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 5, 2006 22:25:16 GMT -5
Craig MacTavish says Roloson is DONE for the season. Conklin comes in at 4-4, makes a bad pass behind the net to Jason Smith....it ricochets to Brind'amour with 31 seconds left. 5-4 Canes win.
Is Carolina charmed or what?
Still....they were down 3-0.
And Cam Ward was brilliant in the clutch.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 6, 2006 1:33:01 GMT -5
Just think if everything balances out next year, the Canes could miss the playoffs. T'is truly amazing how, when they need something to happen for them, it does. I think Edmonton's done. Just like I knew we were when Koivu was skewered. Roloson was giving them confidence that they could come back no matter what. Conklin just can't do that.
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Post by jkr on Jun 6, 2006 6:16:05 GMT -5
Just think if everything balances out next year, the Canes could miss the playoffs. T'is truly amazing how, when they need something to happen for them, it does. I think Edmonton's done. Just like I knew we were when Koivu was skewered. Roloson was giving them confidence that they could come back no matter what. Conklin just can't do that. Roloson's injury was Bergeron's fault. I don't know how many times I have seen D men do this - all they end up doing is injuring their own goalie while trying to look tough in front of the net. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 6, 2006 6:46:24 GMT -5
Just think if everything balances out next year, the Canes could miss the playoffs. T'is truly amazing how, when they need something to happen for them, it does. I think Edmonton's done. Just like I knew we were when Koivu was skewered. Roloson was giving them confidence that they could come back no matter what. Conklin just can't do that. Roloson's injury was Bergeron's fault. I don't know how many times I have seen D men do this - all they end up doing is injuring their own goalie while trying to look tough in front of the net. Bergeron is getting ripped on Edmonton fan boards....I guess we'd be doing the same thing.... You're right....if Ladd goes into Roloson on his own, it's a late penalty and Roloson likely isn't injured. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2006 13:36:32 GMT -5
Oilers are done, methinks. Conklin can't stop anything.
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Post by jkr on Jun 6, 2006 17:00:04 GMT -5
Oilers are done, methinks. Conklin can't stop anything. I agree. I can't believe the talking heads on the FAN590 in Toronto. Jim Kelley & Gene Principe of Sportsnet are trying to say it's not that big a deal. Right guys. Roloson was the leading Conn Smythe candidate & the only reason the Oilers are in the final. And taking him away is not that big a deal? They must have split a 24 before they went on air. These geniuses need think back to 93. What do they think would have happened if Roy was injured in game one of the finals and Andre Racicot had to finish the series? Oh yeah, never thought of that.  |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 6, 2006 20:06:08 GMT -5
I just can't believe how the Canes have skirted blatant penalties and avoided the injury bug.
Over the glass calls against Montreal, New Jersey, and Buffalo all resulted in key goals for them. They've gotten favorable bounces, deflections...you name it.
They ARE a good team, no doubt. How they cooled off a hot New Jersey team was really something to see. And it looks as if the Habs will have lost to the last two Cup winners: Tampa, Carolina.
It just irks me to know that the Habs were so close to going up 3-0 on the Canes.
Game 3 will haunt me for awhile: Williams' missed high stick on Koivu, Komisarek getting called for a double minor with 4 and change left in the third...the Habs kill it....then Plekanec gets a measley holding call in OT....Staal scores....AAAAAAGGGGHHHH!
That's when the Carolina charm began.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 7, 2006 22:21:41 GMT -5
Well, Game 2 hardly looked like a Stanley Cup Final match. 5-0 Canes due to undisciplined, distracted play by the Oilers. Hardly any help for Markkanen. Like Skilly says, tough to blame the goalie when you can't score.
They better get their act in gear soon or it's lights out.
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Post by Pam on Jun 9, 2006 15:34:25 GMT -5
I'm hoping the Canes win the Cup. I hate the idea of the Cup in the South, but the Canes aren't as bad as if it was one of the Florida teams or Nashville. At least the Canes used to be in the north, so that makes it not quite so bad. Better the Canes than the Ducks, another southern team, or the Oilers. (maybe I better duck now).
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 10, 2006 22:07:40 GMT -5
Edmonton had the potential 2-0 goal disallowed as Mr. Magoo lost sight of a puck that wasn't covered by Ward......so it was nice to see the Oilers come out with the win to make it a series.
Markkanen was solid....floppy and adventurous...but solid.
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Post by MC Habber on Jun 10, 2006 23:11:30 GMT -5
I never thought the Oilers were out of this series and I think they have a reasonable chance to win it now. Losing Roloson was not the end - you don't need a good goalie, you need a hot goalie, and lots of NHL goalies are capable of being that guy for a few games. If the Oilers lose, it won't be because of Markannen.
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Post by PTH on Jun 11, 2006 0:18:43 GMT -5
I never thought the Oilers were out of this series and I think they have a reasonable chance to win it now. Losing Roloson was not the end - you don't need a good goalie, you need a hot goalie, and lots of NHL goalies are capable of being that guy for a few games. If the Oilers lose, it won't be because of Markannen. Well, I wouldn't go that far - Markannen could still fall apart. EDM played a solid all-around game tonight, and still it was a nail-biter. Still, COL won without Forsberg a few years back; it's possible to recover from a major loss, but it's really not a given. Go Oilers ! |
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Post by jkr on Jun 11, 2006 5:40:32 GMT -5
Carloina really needs Staal to get back on track. He looks lost out there ( when you notice him). After compiling that 15 game point streak, he now has gone the last 6 games with no goals & 3 assists. Stats here: sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?statsId=3342 |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 11, 2006 9:12:12 GMT -5
sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2479146Brind'amour complains about Smyth's winning goal. Cam Ward says that "Roddy" got away with a similar play in Game 3 against Montreal. I don't remember that goal, but it tied the game at 1. Also in Game 4....Brind'amour scored the 3-2 winner while someone else was interfering with Huet in the crease. As Don Cherry said after that game, "They'd already called one back on the Canes for that reason tonight...you think they were going to call TWO?" Hopefully, some of the Carolina "charm" is wearing off.
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Post by MC Habber on Jun 11, 2006 12:38:54 GMT -5
I never thought the Oilers were out of this series and I think they have a reasonable chance to win it now. Losing Roloson was not the end - you don't need a good goalie, you need a hot goalie, and lots of NHL goalies are capable of being that guy for a few games. If the Oilers lose, it won't be because of Markannen. Well, I wouldn't go that far - Markannen could still fall apart. So could Cam Ward. Roloson could have too. The reason that they lost game 2 and that game 3 was so close was that they aren't finishing their chances, and their powerplay looks like it did in the first few games against the Sharks. I really think this series will come down to scoring key goals and not taking too many penalties - I don't think it will be decided by goaltending (unless you count Conklin's blunder in game 1). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2006 22:31:12 GMT -5
Rod should change his name to Brind'angst. He got away with many interference calls.
I'm wishing at one point or another that Williams gets his bell rung. Hopefully by Chris Pronger.
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Post by Toronthab on Jun 12, 2006 6:49:57 GMT -5
Markkanen was solid....floppy and adventurous...but solid. Great description. Heh heh heh. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 12, 2006 11:12:36 GMT -5
Hate Edmonton. Always did; always will. (and that didn;t go over very well when I lived in central Alberta, I'll tell you!). Teams I refuse to cheer for no matter what, in order: 1. Toronto (or is it 30?) 2. Philadelphia 3. Edmonton So you know who I'm not cheering for in the finals. Toronto? Phillie? I could concieveably could find myself cheering for Edmonton, but only if they were playing Toronto, Boston or Philadelphia. Go canes. That would make two consecutive times that the hab's lost out to the eventual cup winners. |
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Post by Toronthab on Jun 12, 2006 20:57:27 GMT -5
Markannen has been just great so far 2-1 Sons of Cain, but terrific goaltending. As someone sagely observed earlier, you don't need a great goalie, you need a hot goalie in the finals.
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