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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 29, 2003 16:49:59 GMT -5
Kovalev, Laukanen, Wilson and Lacouture for Samuellson, Fata, Bouchard, Lintner and boatloads of cash.
The NHL and Pens are a joke.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 10, 2003 15:21:46 GMT -5
TSN.ca is reporting the a deal for Kovalev is all but done...but it's with the Rangers..not Laffs ;D The only thing remaining to be ironed out is money...they say we need to stay tuned... tic toc tic toc...ho-hum..  |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 10, 2003 15:36:48 GMT -5
Well believe it or not but McKeen's has a rumour of HABS making a pitch for Kovalev. The rumored offer is Hossa, Markov and cash.  How's that for a surprise ? BTW I would positively HATE that deal. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 10, 2003 15:44:41 GMT -5
Well believe it or not but McKeen's has a rumour of HABS making a pitch for Kovalev. The rumored offer is Hossa, Markov and cash. How's that for a surprise ? BTW I would positively HATE that deal. Agreed. That goes against the AS philosophy of building a contender through the draft. We give away 2 of our top young kids for Kovalev. Not "bon"...not "bon" at all! |
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Post by AH on Feb 10, 2003 15:45:27 GMT -5
Well believe it or not but McKeen's has a rumour of HABS making a pitch for Kovalev. The rumored offer is Hossa, Markov and cash. How's that for a surprise ? BTW I would positively HATE that deal. That is so stupid ... I would shoot Savard myself !!! Not even debating whether that is a fair trade or not, this "rumoured" deal would be like the Tkachuk deal to St Louis 2 years ago. Larry Pleau jumped the gun and gave up too much youth, too early in the development of his team. They would be a better team today with both Handzus and Nagy in the lineup instead of Tkachuk, and with a Taffe and the 1st round pick as trade bait to get them the player to put them over the top this season. IMO, that trade set that team back 2 years. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 10, 2003 15:48:04 GMT -5
Well believe it or not but McKeen's has a rumour of HABS making a pitch for Kovalev. The rumored offer is Hossa, Markov and cash. How's that for a surprise ? BTW I would positively HATE that deal. Doc, Would you have a link? I would like to take a look at it? thanks, THF |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 10, 2003 15:49:53 GMT -5
Well according to Sportsnet the deal is done.
Rangers get Kovalev, Lacouture, Laukannen and Wilson for Joel Bouchard, Samuelsson, Linthner and Fata... and a lot of cash.
Gee talk about getting hosed. Pens also traded Ferrence for a pick earlier on.
In 2 moves the Pens are totally demolished.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 10, 2003 15:54:14 GMT -5
Doc, Would you have a link? I would like to take a look at it? thanks, THF They took it out when the Rangers deal got announced...  must have been some BS. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 10, 2003 15:55:05 GMT -5
Wow.
I think it's safe to say that the Pens are out of it. Litterally.
I certainly hope those young guys were worth it, for CP's sake.
Look at the bright side...THE LAFFS DIDN'T GET HIM!!!
BWAAHAHHAHA
THF
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Post by Ged on Feb 10, 2003 15:56:35 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Stanley on Feb 10, 2003 16:00:38 GMT -5
Is it me or the Pens didn't much  |
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Post by legaspesien on Feb 10, 2003 16:04:28 GMT -5
Is it me or the Pens didn't much Much=less $$$ payrool |
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Post by Ryan on Feb 10, 2003 16:36:55 GMT -5
I LOVE IT!!!!
The Pens fall out of the race.
The Rangers get another ego, and still won't make the playoffs.
And I've saved the best for last here...
THE LEAFS LOSE OUT HUGE!!!
Stavro and the ownership open their mouths and say Quinn has the money to bring in a big name player. Quinn is obviously upset with this because it forces him to deal for a high-priced player at the deadline. So lucky for the Leafs Kovi is put on the market and every media source reports the Leafs are the only option for Kovi and the Pens. So basically fans were expecting Kovi and nothing else. Kapanen's available? Who cares, we're getting Kovalev!! Now they've lost out to the Rangers, and the best part is the Rangers gave up dick all!! So now Quinn can't say they demaned Antropov, or Coliacovo, or any big name prospects because the Pens took back borderline NHLers in the deal anyways. So now they'll rush around trying to deal for someone like Satan, but it just won't happen, or if it does, it's purely to try and save face for losing Kovalev.
Absolutely beautiful, the only better deal for me would have been Traverse and Brisebois for Kovalev and Lemieux.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 10, 2003 16:45:33 GMT -5
Is it me or the Pens didn't much That's quite an understatement !!!  Pens get nothing in terms of hockey. but in terms of $$$, they offload over 7mil, take on about 1 and will get 4mil of cash on top of that. Net result = +10mil. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Feb 10, 2003 16:51:35 GMT -5
"You know, the landlord rang my front door bell-- I let it ring for a long, long spell-- I looked through the window, I peeked through the blind, And asked him to tell me what was on his mind. He said, "Money, honey! Money, honey! Money, honey, If you wanna get along with me." - www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?sid=%BF%84%EF%A4%05%F2%0A%EF |
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 10, 2003 17:28:38 GMT -5
I LOVE IT!!!! The Pens fall out of the race. The Rangers get another ego, and still won't make the playoffs. And I've saved the best for last here... THE LEAFS LOSE OUT HUGE!!! Stavro and the ownership open their mouths and say Quinn has the money to bring in a big name player. Quinn is obviously upset with this because it forces him to deal for a high-priced player at the deadline. So lucky for the Leafs Kovi is put on the market and every media source reports the Leafs are the only option for Kovi and the Pens. So basically fans were expecting Kovi and nothing else. Kapanen's available? Who cares, we're getting Kovalev!! Now they've lost out to the Rangers, and the best part is the Rangers gave up dick all!! So now Quinn can't say they demaned Antropov, or Coliacovo, or any big name prospects because the Pens took back borderline NHLers in the deal anyways. So now they'll rush around trying to deal for someone like Satan, but it just won't happen, or if it does, it's purely to try and save face for losing Kovalev. Absolutely beautiful, the only better deal for me would have been Traverse and Brisebois for Kovalev and Lemieux. same here!! My thoughts exactly!!! This is great for us!!! |
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 10, 2003 17:45:04 GMT -5
btw was this Hossa/Markovb/cash rumor only on McKeens?
Man I would have killed AS for doing that
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Post by Habsfunk on Feb 10, 2003 18:35:18 GMT -5
The other playes the Pens gave away (Laukanen, Wilson, Lacouture) are considered overpaid crap and I think the trade was conditional on accepting them. I guess the Leafs weren't willing to accept these throwins as well as give up cash.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 10, 2003 18:37:17 GMT -5
Actually I read that Leafs were offering more talent but the cash cow that is MLSE did not want to send cash the Pens way.
Unreal. Leafs fans must be pissed.
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Post by PTH on Feb 10, 2003 19:04:06 GMT -5
Well believe it or not but McKeen's has a rumour of HABS making a pitch for Kovalev. The rumored offer is Hossa, Markov and cash. How's that for a surprise ? BTW I would positively HATE that deal. It all depends on contracts.... if it meant we got Kovalev for the next 5 seasons, and if the Pens added Laukkanen, it's not all that bad. Still, I'd rather rebuild properly. That being said, when I see Petrov, Chow, Gilmour and McKay on the ice, I'd rather see Kovalev. |
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Post by Cranky on Feb 10, 2003 19:46:15 GMT -5
Lemieux is systematically taking the team apart and whining at the same time about low attendance.
In a year or two the Pens are going into bankruptcy. Hopefully, contraction is next.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 10, 2003 19:53:04 GMT -5
In a year or two the Pens are going into bankruptcy. Hopefully, contraction is next. can we start our mock drafts?  Would be nice to get a Kraft from Pittsburgh...finally a big center |
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Post by MC Habber on Feb 10, 2003 20:05:10 GMT -5
Kovalev is a really, really good player. I hate to say it but the Rangers have a chance now - he might be exactly the kind of spark that team needs and, unlike Holik and pretty much the rest of the team, Kovalev didn't go to NY because they offered him a huge contract. It seems the Rangers will never stop spending but they might finally have spent enough to get a playoff spot. Trading Markov for anyone as old as Kovalev would be completely insane, especially for a team with such a weak defense.
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Post by FormerLurker on Feb 10, 2003 20:06:14 GMT -5
Well believe it or not but McKeen's has a rumour of HABS making a pitch for Kovalev. The rumored offer is Hossa, Markov and cash. How's that for a surprise ? BTW I would positively HATE that deal. I really hope that none of you Savard skeptics start using this rumour as "proof" that he doesn't know what he is doing. Leave this rumour where it belongs: in the dustbin. |
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Post by FormerLurker on Feb 10, 2003 20:10:55 GMT -5
I LOVE IT!!!! The Pens fall out of the race. The Rangers get another ego, and still won't make the playoffs. Wow. Never heard Kovalev described as an ego before. The guy has talent, and the Rangers bought him. That doesn't make him an ego. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 10, 2003 20:21:07 GMT -5
I really hope that none of you Savard skeptics start using this rumour as "proof" that he doesn't know what he is doing. Leave this rumour where it belongs: in the dustbin. I'll leave nothing in the dustbin. If I'd come across a rumor about Savard getting Modano for Andreas Dackell I'd let people know of it. I don't post crap and I think McKeen's is a relatively serious site. I think the pople of this board are intelligent enough to have an educated opinion that doesn't need me or anyone to hide what they come across in case it doesn't serve their position correctly. |
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Post by GoMtl on Feb 10, 2003 20:22:23 GMT -5
I'm not any more worried about the Rags now then i was before the deal... They have always had the talent to be one of the top teams, they just can't put it together, they don't have the right group of players. Adding Kovalev isn't really going to help, he'll serve as a goal scorer they already had earlier in the season with Bure, and they weren't any better then.
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Post by MPLABBE on Feb 10, 2003 20:22:50 GMT -5
I'll leave nothing in the dustbin. If I'd come across a rumor about Savard getting Modano for Andreas Dackell I'd let people know of it. I don't post crap and I think McKeen's is a relatively serious site. I think the pople of this board are intelligent enough to have an educated opinion that doesn't need me or anyone to hide what they come across in case it doesn't serve their position correctly. just wanna know..was this posted by a fan on their message board or on the front page of the website by the admins of the site? |
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Post by GoMtl on Feb 10, 2003 20:25:18 GMT -5
If they put it all together and make the playoffs now, it will be more due to the coaching, and the play of others like Lindros, Holik, Kasparitus, Bure, Leetch, etc. then just the play of one goal scorer who was previously living off of #66 anyways. Sure Kovy might put up a close to point per game average in the Big Apple, but he's not the key to the playoffs for them, just helps slightly.
this scares me a little bit more...
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Post by seventeen on Feb 10, 2003 20:39:45 GMT -5
I'll leave nothing in the dustbin. If I'd come across a rumor about Savard getting Modano for Andreas Dackell I'd let people know of it. I don't post crap and I think McKeen's is a relatively serious site. I think the pople of this board are intelligent enough to have an educated opinion that doesn't need me or anyone to hide what they come across in case it doesn't serve their position correctly. Fair enough, and let us judge it. Let's hope that doesn't open the floodgates though. I've seen some pretty inane rumours on other boards. The rumoured deal seemed one-sided in terms of youth for me, for the Pens. Markov is going to be an even better defenseman than he is now and Hossa will work into a pretty solid NHL'r. Kovalev has reams of talent, which, when the real deal was actually done, makes the reality still seem like it came out of X-files. Kovalev for cash basically. Would anyone here seriously have predicted a guy like him could go for as little as that? So.....what is one to make of this? Forget the deal itself....what can you make from all the surrounding issues? It seems teams just aren't prepared to pay big salaries anymore. How else do you explain giving up Kovalev for money? Just think, we probably could have had him for Gratton and Cash. The other guys are just window dressing. Secondly, is this going to turn the NHL into major league baseball, where the Rangers will contend every year against someone else, because they're the only ones willing to throw away money? Toss the Stars into that mix too, or any other team that has more money than brains. This is not a good sign, guys, unless GG makes several more fortunes and doesn't care about spilling some of the cash down the drain. Thirdly, guess how 2004 is going to turn out. There will be a lock-out...it will be long. Start lining up for seasons tickets to your favourite Major Juniour team. (Pssst. it's more entertaining anyway) |
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