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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 2, 2014 16:42:55 GMT -5
We are still missing a bone fide scoring winger to replace Vanek, but I have heard we are still in the Vrbata talks. As long as the term and cap hit are reasonable of course.
I do like the Briere trade for a couple of reasons. We get bigger and potentially better, and we get rid of a player in which MT had lost his confidence. Letting Gio shuffle off to Buffalo given the contract he received there made infinite sense. Could not imagine being burdened with that contract. Adding Mulhotra addresses a big weakness at times with this team, the inability to compete in the faceoff circle and win that big critical face off. If you want to be a puck possession and speed transition team, start off with the puck more often and spend less time chasing it. As for Sekac, why the heck not? He only takes up one of the 50 contract spots, is added without giving up any assets, and has some decent size and skill at the tender age of 22. We are severely lacking young players like that, so lets see what he can do.
On D, I know that Gorges was a heart and soul guy who bled the bleu-blanc-rouge, but his size and lack of speed were really exposed for me during these playoffs. He wasn't of prototypical size for a defensive-first defender in the league. While Gilbert will hardly ever be mistaken for a big, tough crease clearer, he has the ability to get on the puck and move it quickly out better than Gorges was able to do. We need more of that as we generally sucked when hemmed in our own end. The "swap" also makes for a better balance between right and left defense, which Berg mentioned in his presser as being a big deal. I see this paying dividends in two ways: Emelin finally gets to play on his strong, left side - so we could see a much better player as a result; and it helps make room for the two young LDs that Bergevin said needed playing time (ie, Beaulieu and Tinordi). Watching them on their weak side was not always fun either, especially when you have MT and his short leash. Weaver had a great playoffs and really showed that he was able to play a very Gorges-like role in playing on the PK and blocking lots of shots. We get him for a lot less money, and he too seems to really like it in Montreal.
In net, Tokarski getting the nod in the playoffs when Price went does speaks volumes. The added twist is that they signed MacDonald on a two way deal to likely be the starter in Hamilton and be a depth guy with NHL experience if needed in a pinch. MacDonald and Condon tandem in Hamilton would be quite good. Tokarski has to clear waivers to be sent down and Budaj has been that consummate professional back up goalie, and I think a good mix with Carey. One of Budaj/Tokarski is likely to be dealt. They did just re-invest in a two year deal with Dustin, and he likely has more upside, but the flip side is he would likely get you the best return. I personally think they will move Budaj...another one of the good guys IMO.
So far, no big splashes, but small and constant tweaking to hopefully transform this team into what the Berg thinks a perennial contender should look like.
Please don't ruin it by signing BooBoo again!!
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2014 16:49:19 GMT -5
Of note, first year of Tokarski's deal is 2-way.
Hearing that Vrbata is looking for anything from 3-4 years and high $3 million to low $4 million.
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Post by christrpn on Jul 2, 2014 16:58:42 GMT -5
I don't believe MB is done. He is in on the Vrbata sweepstakes but I don't think he is the answer either. A lot of talk about habs and Blackhawks under discussion. Blackhawks need to dump salary because they are already above the cap and they want to extend Kane and Toews for $12M/yr each.
I'm a little worries that Subban hasen't signed yet. My guess is that we get that coveted winger, sign Subban to his well deserved contract and there will be little wiggle room for Eller, in which case teams will be able to give him an offer sheet that MB might not be able to match.
I guess worst case is Eller leaves with the Offer sheet, we get the compensation, Galchenyuk moves to 2nd line center, Pleks to 3rd and we have what we wanted.
Still would like to get more from elelr than a late draft pick that would most certainly come from the offer sheet.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 2, 2014 17:03:32 GMT -5
Of note, first year of Tokarski's deal is 2-way. Hearing that Vrbata is looking for anything from 3-4 years and high $3 million to low $4 million. For sure Tokarski's deal is two way in year one and one way in year two, but I think his playoff performance could tempt a few teams if he was put on waivers. There is a little less risk on goalies if you put a guy on waivers right before the season starts as teams should all have firmed up their starters and backups by then...but you never know.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 2, 2014 17:07:42 GMT -5
I don't believe MB is done. He is in on the Vrbata sweepstakes but I don't think he is the answer either. A lot of talk about habs and Blackhawks under discussion. Blackhawks need to dump salary because they are already above the cap and they want to extend Kane and Toews for $12M/yr each. I'm a little worries that Subban hasen't signed yet. My guess is that we get that coveted winger, sign Subban to his well deserved contract and there will be little wiggle room for Eller, in which case teams will be able to give him an offer sheet that MB might not be able to match. I guess worst case is Eller leaves with the Offer sheet, we get the compensation, Galchenyuk moves to 2nd line center, Pleks to 3rd and we have what we wanted. Still would like to get more from elelr than a late draft pick that would most certainly come from the offer sheet. The interesting thing about the cap is that Berg has shown that he does not like to spend right up against it to start the season. He likely will want to leave some decent wiggle room to be able to add a tangible asset or two at the deadline to make the push again next season.
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Post by christrpn on Jul 2, 2014 17:16:05 GMT -5
I don't believe MB is done. He is in on the Vrbata sweepstakes but I don't think he is the answer either. A lot of talk about habs and Blackhawks under discussion. Blackhawks need to dump salary because they are already above the cap and they want to extend Kane and Toews for $12M/yr each. I'm a little worries that Subban hasen't signed yet. My guess is that we get that coveted winger, sign Subban to his well deserved contract and there will be little wiggle room for Eller, in which case teams will be able to give him an offer sheet that MB might not be able to match. I guess worst case is Eller leaves with the Offer sheet, we get the compensation, Galchenyuk moves to 2nd line center, Pleks to 3rd and we have what we wanted. Still would like to get more from elelr than a late draft pick that would most certainly come from the offer sheet. The interesting thing about the cap is that Berg has shown that he does not like to spend right up against it to start the season. He likely will want to leave some decent wiggle room to be able to add a tangible asset or two at the deadline to make the push again next season. Thats what I mean, Habs have a little over $17M in cap space. Let's say Subban gets 8, that leaves 9. Give that bi RM 4, just to be conservative. now you have 5 to sign Eller and have wiggle room. If you are Garth snow that's plenty to cover for any offer sheet. Problem is that MB isn't Garth Snow, Garth Snow is the GM for a rival team, and anything over $2M might make MB a little uncomfortable. Seriously though, $20M for four years to Grabovsky and Kulemin. Kulemin had 19pnts last year. How does GS still have a job?
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2014 17:39:08 GMT -5
Of note, first year of Tokarski's deal is 2-way. Hearing that Vrbata is looking for anything from 3-4 years and high $3 million to low $4 million. For sure Tokarski's deal is two way in year one and one way in year two, but I think his playoff performance could tempt a few teams if he was put on waivers. There is a little less risk on goalies if you put a guy on waivers right before the season starts as teams should all have firmed up their starters and backups by then...but you never know. It must be because of Tokarski age then? Two-way in that first year can often mean free to promote and demote. No doubt he'd get claimed, and no doubt that someone has to go.
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Post by habsask on Jul 2, 2014 18:31:54 GMT -5
You are sounding decidedly unCranky. Can a change in your avatar be next? Oh man, when I saw this I burst out laughing...still chuckling. Love the ribbons- kinda looks like Little Bo Peep. He,he, he,he.....
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2014 19:57:23 GMT -5
Looks like Vrbata has signed with Canucks. Dreger says 2 years and $10 million.
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Post by jerry_dog on Jul 2, 2014 20:44:16 GMT -5
Looks like Vrbata has signed with Canucks. Dreger says 2 years and $10 million. Yikes!! Glad it is them.
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 2, 2014 20:45:57 GMT -5
Looks like Vrbata has signed with Canucks. Dreger says 2 years and $10 million. Yup! That is crazy money for what this guy brings. How are guys like Vrbata, Grabowski, Pouliot and kuleman getting this kind of money? Glad MB is patient!
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2014 21:11:31 GMT -5
He was looking for 3 years again. Canucks upped the cash to lower the term. On 3 years, he'd likely have taken in the area of $4 million.
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Post by habsask on Jul 2, 2014 21:31:01 GMT -5
I don't believe MB is done. He is in on the Vrbata sweepstakes but I don't think he is the answer either. A lot of talk about habs and Blackhawks under discussion. Blackhawks need to dump salary because they are already above the cap and they want to extend Kane and Toews for $12M/yr each. I'm a little worries that Subban hasen't signed yet. My guess is that we get that coveted winger, sign Subban to his well deserved contract and there will be little wiggle room for Eller, in which case teams will be able to give him an offer sheet that MB might not be able to match. I guess worst case is Eller leaves with the Offer sheet, we get the compensation, Galchenyuk moves to 2nd line center, Pleks to 3rd and we have what we wanted. Still would like to get more from elelr than a late draft pick that would most certainly come from the offer sheet. The interesting thing about the cap is that Berg has shown that he does not like to spend right up against it to start the season. He likely will want to leave some decent wiggle room to be able to add a tangible asset or two at the deadline to make the push again next season. Yes, and I'm sure he's looking at what his Cap structure could be/should be say 3 years from now. So that may play into what he does this season. As an aside I read three teams are over the Cap at the moment- Hawks, Flyers & Caps(?). They have to get down under before the season starts. I can see why the Hawks are in this position, a couple of Cups & being a constant contender will do that plus they will be strong for a few more years yet. But Phili & Washington? Where do they have room to grow for the future? To me that has bad management written all over it.
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Post by blny on Jul 2, 2014 22:02:36 GMT -5
Two teams are over according to Capgeek. Caps are $1.1 million under. Hawks and Flyers are both more than $2 million over.
I don't see how the Hawks can do it, and ensure having enough room to extend Kane and Toews, without shedding 2 big salaries at some point. Sharp makes the most sense to me. Saad is an up and comer. He's a burgeoning power forward. Sharp has 3 years left at $5.9 million. Shedding that allows them to bump Kane and Toews to $9.3 million each. Shedding another salary may be needed. Could be Bickell, making $4 million. I don't see how they can shed defenders, cause they've only got 7 on the payroll. Oduya is going into his last year. His replacement would likely cost the same, more than $3 million. Can't buy out Hossa, because they have no compliance buyouts left and there would be penalties to buying out Hossa cause his contract is one of the 'cap circumventing' ones that was allowed.
Berg has a relationship with the Hawks. I'd love to turn Plekanec into picks/prospects, and move them for Sharp.
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 2, 2014 22:28:38 GMT -5
Two teams are over according to Capgeek. Caps are $1.1 million under. Hawks and Flyers are both more than $2 million over. I don't see how the Hawks can do it, and ensure having enough room to extend Kane and Toews, without shedding 2 big salaries at some point. Sharp makes the most sense to me. Saad is an up and comer. He's a burgeoning power forward. Sharp has 3 years left at $5.9 million. Shedding that allows them to bump Kane and Toews to $9.3 million each. Shedding another salary may be needed. Could be Bickell, making $4 million. I don't see how they can shed defenders, cause they've only got 7 on the payroll. Oduya is going into his last year. His replacement would likely cost the same, more than $3 million. Can't buy out Hossa, because they have no compliance buyouts left and there would be penalties to buying out Hossa cause his contract is one of the 'cap circumventing' ones that was allowed. Berg has a relationship with the Hawks. I'd love to turn Plekanec into picks/prospects, and move them for Sharp. MB is good but even Sam Pollock would be impressed if MB could pull that one off!
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Post by seventeen on Jul 2, 2014 23:18:37 GMT -5
He was looking for 3 years again. Canucks upped the cash to lower the term. On 3 years, he'd likely have taken in the area of $4 million. Benning isn't an idiot, but he needs some more talent to cover the time period from now until the Vancouver draft choices are better able to contribute. Same sort of situation as us. I'm sure they don't like paying $5mm to an average player like Vrbata, but they need to replace some offense, until Horvat, Shinkaruk, McCann and Vertanen move into the line-up (or some combination of those that make it)
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 2, 2014 23:48:53 GMT -5
Not sure if Bergevin has any medical training, but his main focus as a GM seems to be to "do no harm." You can argue that he has made some blunders, but most of them, if there in fact blunders, are short term, non-crippling blunders. He hasn't signed anybody for an outrageous amount of money, he hasn't handed out any long term contracts, nor has he gotten himself involved in a land war in Asia. He's been very cautious, and he continued that trend yesterday, if you ask me. Lots of lateral moves and incremental improvements, but no swinging for the fences. Random (and scattered) thoughts: Parenteau: Not a big fan, and I fear we've simply traded for a younger version of the older Briere. Not sure we're going to get much more production from Parenteau than what we would have gotten from Briere next year, in other words, though Parenteau's recent pedigree would definitely suggest otherwise. Call it a hunch that I will be more than happy to be wrong on. But I fear we've traded for one more year of year of Briere-like non-production for an extra 5th rounder. Which I guess is okay. Gorges: Sad the way it ended, and certainly puts a chink in Bergevin's "treats his guys great" armour. But so far nobody seems to think the leak came from him, so I guess that is still intact. For the "balance" of the blueline Gorges was the most expendable member. The 2nd round pick two years from now may seem like a mediocre return, but I'm a big fan of stockpiling picks far into the future. I think other GMs are more likely to throw them in if they are far down the line, so in a way it's a long con. Not saying we're going to end up with a super-star with Minnesota's second round pick in 2016, but it will be nice to get there and remember that "oh yeah, we've got more picks to play with!" Personally, as a GM, I'd be asking for picks for drafts as far down the line as the CBA allows me to. Even if it's just an extra 7th rounder for grins and giggles. Currency. Gilbert: Only has to be better than Gorges. From the right-hand side. I would expect about the same level of play, actually. Which isn't bad, but I wouldn't be expecting the moon from this guy. Another "character" player in the Weaver-comedian role, I think. Gionta: I, for one, didn't necessarily want to see Gionta go. 18 goals is 18 goals. They're going to have to be replaced by someone, and as I mentioned above I'm not sure Parenteau is that guy. But obviously he got a great retirement contract that we weren't going to match. Do no harm and all. Vanek: It's clear he wasn't going to sign here, even if Therrien hadn't of 4th-lined him. He said all the way back at the beginning of the season, while with Buffalo, that "July 1st was a gift" to himself. He wanted to see free-agency and/or sign with Minnesota. He said it again in New York where the Islanders offered him a ludicrous contract, and he said it again while here in Montreal. No reason to believe any contract offer that Bergevin would have made to him would have been accepted. I guess we're just surprised when a professional athlete actually does what he says he wants to do. Weaver: Keep living the dream, Mike! Solid veteran, solid signing, nice short-term depth. 40-50 games for him, I would expect. Plus more Pacioretty-poster tweets. Malhotra: Always been a big Malhotra fan, thought he was seriously underrated around the league. Mainly because he wasn't a top 10 overall pick, despite being a top 10 overall pick. Doesn't mean he was a bad player. Just not a top 10 overall pick. I expect him to come here and put in Jeff Halpern-like play. Nothing to right home about, but again, not really going to hurt you either. The faceoff thing though is a welcome change. Sekac: No idea who this kid is, but apparently he was in high demand. Consider it our Collberg replacement, only a little further along. Let's face it, there isn't a heck of a lot in Hamilton when it comes to forward depth. I don't know if Sekac is going to start the year in Montreal -he''ll be given every opportunity - but let's face it; when a 5'8 forward with 44 points in the AHL is your top callup prospect then you know you need some depth there. Sekac is what? 22? So he becomes our top prospect almost by default at this point. I'll be interested to see how he does. Hopefully he can be another Bournival-like surprise. White: I liked Ryan White. I thought he was a good 4th liner player. Sort of surprised they didn't at least qualify him and try to trade him, but I guessed they poked around at the draft and there were no takers. That's unfortunate. I would have thought we could have gotten at least a 2016 5th rounder or something. Vrbata, Bouillon, Bissonnette: My guesses for our next three signings. I don't think Bergevin is done yet. He likes depth, and while we have a lot of "healthy" depth, we don't have a lot of depth if and when the injuries hit. Right now, unless I am counting wrong, if you include Sekac, Tinordi, Beaulieu AND Paetryn in the count we have 14 forwards and 8 defensemen. Which means that only one player needs to get hurt for us to start seriously worrying about our depth. And that's with zero competition in camp. Beyond those four rookies we have De la Rose and the aforementioned Andrighetto. Question marks. If we sign the three above (Bouillon!!) then we have some depth, some camp battles for the rookies to engage in, and some Hamilton call-ups. My un-educated guess is we play with 13 forwards and 8 defenseman. Sekac and Paetryn back to Hamilton, with one defenseman and one forward starting the year on IR. Good post, BC ... Gionta had an pretty decent second-half to the season and he was noticeable in the playoffs, as well ... I honestly didn't like his selection as captain, but I can't dismiss the guy's dedication ... where are those 18 goals going to come from now ... both he and Gorges will be providing a much-needed leadership core into the Sabres ... oh yeah, speaking of the Leafs ... it says something about your franchise when a proven leader like Gorges decides to go to the league's bottom-feeder instead of your club ... as for Bergevin, I didn't like what he did to Josh, but at the same time he proved to me that he's more than capable of making tough decisions ... this is actually crucial to any successful leader ... I respect Josh Gorges and I'm very grateful for what he provided our club during his tenure there ... not keen on Vrbata but who else would he have in his sites as a goal scorer? ... imagine if Ryan White ends up as a 4th-liner for the Bruins ... good comparison on Sekac ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jul 3, 2014 5:40:28 GMT -5
He was looking for 3 years again. Canucks upped the cash to lower the term. On 3 years, he'd likely have taken in the area of $4 million. Benning isn't an idiot, but he needs some more talent to cover the time period from now until the Vancouver draft choices are better able to contribute. Same sort of situation as us. I'm sure they don't like paying $5mm to an average player like Vrbata, but they need to replace some offense, until Horvat, Shinkaruk, McCann and Vertanen move into the line-up (or some combination of those that make it) No doubt their lineup is a little thin. I assume it will shake out something like this: Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Higgins-Bonino-Burrows Kassian-Matthias-Hansen Sestito-Richardson-Dorsett Not many goals in that bottom 6. I think Vrbata can produce with the Sedins. He should be able to replace Kesler's goals. Radim's last two contracts were 3 year $9 million deals. If anything, he likely took something of a pay cut on the last one. This one pays him $1 million more in total. Canucks pay a little more to keep the term down. It's perhaps a tad more than he's worth, but not as horrendous as some of the contracts doled out over the last couple of days.
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Post by blny on Jul 3, 2014 5:46:24 GMT -5
Two teams are over according to Capgeek. Caps are $1.1 million under. Hawks and Flyers are both more than $2 million over. I don't see how the Hawks can do it, and ensure having enough room to extend Kane and Toews, without shedding 2 big salaries at some point. Sharp makes the most sense to me. Saad is an up and comer. He's a burgeoning power forward. Sharp has 3 years left at $5.9 million. Shedding that allows them to bump Kane and Toews to $9.3 million each. Shedding another salary may be needed. Could be Bickell, making $4 million. I don't see how they can shed defenders, cause they've only got 7 on the payroll. Oduya is going into his last year. His replacement would likely cost the same, more than $3 million. Can't buy out Hossa, because they have no compliance buyouts left and there would be penalties to buying out Hossa cause his contract is one of the 'cap circumventing' ones that was allowed. Berg has a relationship with the Hawks. I'd love to turn Plekanec into picks/prospects, and move them for Sharp. MB is good but even Sam Pollock would be impressed if MB could pull that one off! Wouldn't we all! That's the sort of move I believe he's got to resort to. Ottawa, Calgary, and Columbus are all below the $51 million floor. In the case of the Flames, Trevaling has already tried to 'sell' some of his cap space. He tried to acquire Ribeiro before the Coyotes bought him out. Their top centers are Monahan, Stajan, and Backlund. Sell! Sell! Sell!
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Post by christrpn on Jul 3, 2014 16:01:12 GMT -5
I read on CAPGEEK that, of thee 150 contracts signed this year, 117 are of 2 yrs or less. GM's are planning for a bigger cap ceiling in the future. Garth snow is an IDIOT
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Post by PTH on Jul 4, 2014 22:52:46 GMT -5
Right now, I'd be trying to: -Sign PK to figure out exactly how much money we have -set up a deal to move Plekanec for futures. -Offer sheet Johansen. Below 6.5 million and we lose our top 3 picks in 2015, but nothing beyond that.
Heck, I'd even throw Plekanec back to Columbus if it got us our 2nd rounder back.
My personal (non-Swedish Bikini team) fantasy has always been to have 2 top centers, of similar ages, to build around for many years, like the Avs did with Forsberg and Sakic. When you have those 2, Subban and Price, it's hard not be a solid team, year after year. (I'm going on the assumption that Galchenyuk will be the other top-line center. In addition to Johansen signing with us and Columbus not matching)
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Post by seventeen on Jul 5, 2014 0:24:52 GMT -5
They'd match. Offer sheets to RFA's are rare because they only improve the player's lot. There's nothing in it for the teams, because everyone matches. Net result is that salaries go up and only individual players win. Other players lose because there's less money to go around (which may not be bad if mediocre UFA's, Radek Vrbata, stop getting ridiculous money), and no one team gets any better or worse.
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Post by GNick99 on Jul 5, 2014 7:13:44 GMT -5
Two teams are over according to Capgeek. Caps are $1.1 million under. Hawks and Flyers are both more than $2 million over. I don't see how the Hawks can do it, and ensure having enough room to extend Kane and Toews, without shedding 2 big salaries at some point. Sharp makes the most sense to me. Saad is an up and comer. He's a burgeoning power forward. Sharp has 3 years left at $5.9 million. Shedding that allows them to bump Kane and Toews to $9.3 million each. Shedding another salary may be needed. Could be Bickell, making $4 million. I don't see how they can shed defenders, cause they've only got 7 on the payroll. Oduya is going into his last year. His replacement would likely cost the same, more than $3 million. Can't buy out Hossa, because they have no compliance buyouts left and there would be penalties to buying out Hossa cause his contract is one of the 'cap circumventing' ones that was allowed. Berg has a relationship with the Hawks. I'd love to turn Plekanec into picks/prospects, and move them for Sharp. Hawks likely just move Bickell
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Post by Skilly on Jul 5, 2014 7:29:38 GMT -5
Right now, I'd be trying to: -Sign PK to figure out exactly how much money we have -set up a deal to move Plekanec for futures. -Offer sheet Johansen. Below 6.5 million and we lose our top 3 picks in 2015, but nothing beyond that. Heck, I'd even throw Plekanec back to Columbus if it got us our 2nd rounder back. My personal (non-Swedish Bikini team) fantasy has always been to have 2 top centers, of similar ages, to build around for many years, like the Avs did with Forsberg and Sakic. When you have those 2, Subban and Price, it's hard not be a solid team, year after year. (I'm going on the assumption that Galchenyuk will be the other top-line center. In addition to Johansen signing with us and Columbus not matching) They'd match our offer, say 6 million. That would give them 7 million in cap space. There would be nothing stopping them from offering Subban the max contract as payback ... Which is 13 million I think. They'd have until camp to shed that 6 million ...
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Post by PTH on Jul 5, 2014 12:43:52 GMT -5
Right now, I'd be trying to: -Sign PK to figure out exactly how much money we have -set up a deal to move Plekanec for futures. -Offer sheet Johansen. Below 6.5 million and we lose our top 3 picks in 2015, but nothing beyond that. Heck, I'd even throw Plekanec back to Columbus if it got us our 2nd rounder back. My personal (non-Swedish Bikini team) fantasy has always been to have 2 top centers, of similar ages, to build around for many years, like the Avs did with Forsberg and Sakic. When you have those 2, Subban and Price, it's hard not be a solid team, year after year. (I'm going on the assumption that Galchenyuk will be the other top-line center. In addition to Johansen signing with us and Columbus not matching) They'd match our offer, say 6 million. That would give them 7 million in cap space. There would be nothing stopping them from offering Subban the max contract as payback ... Which is 13 million I think. They'd have until camp to shed that 6 million ... Which is why I'd lock up PK before making that kind of a move, not after ! My 3 items were not in random order. Given how guys like Subban have had to go through bridge deals, I'm not sure this way of doing would go over real well, but I just love the idea of those 2 young, top centers....
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Post by blny on Jul 5, 2014 15:03:56 GMT -5
Two teams are over according to Capgeek. Caps are $1.1 million under. Hawks and Flyers are both more than $2 million over. I don't see how the Hawks can do it, and ensure having enough room to extend Kane and Toews, without shedding 2 big salaries at some point. Sharp makes the most sense to me. Saad is an up and comer. He's a burgeoning power forward. Sharp has 3 years left at $5.9 million. Shedding that allows them to bump Kane and Toews to $9.3 million each. Shedding another salary may be needed. Could be Bickell, making $4 million. I don't see how they can shed defenders, cause they've only got 7 on the payroll. Oduya is going into his last year. His replacement would likely cost the same, more than $3 million. Can't buy out Hossa, because they have no compliance buyouts left and there would be penalties to buying out Hossa cause his contract is one of the 'cap circumventing' ones that was allowed. Berg has a relationship with the Hawks. I'd love to turn Plekanec into picks/prospects, and move them for Sharp. Hawks likely just move Bickell It covers them for this year, but it doesn't do enough to help with extensions for Kane and Toews.
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Post by billypilgrim on Jul 5, 2014 15:33:01 GMT -5
Hawks likely just move Bickell It covers them for this year, but it doesn't do enough to help with extensions for Kane and Toews. Moving Leddy, Versteeg and Bickell should keep them under the cap for the next 2 years.
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Post by blny on Jul 5, 2014 16:15:09 GMT -5
It covers them for this year, but it doesn't do enough to help with extensions for Kane and Toews. Moving Leddy, Versteeg and Bickell should keep them under the cap for the next 2 years. Have to fill out a roster though. I'm not seeing a long line of teams interested in Versteeg. Those roster spots have to be filled. If you can shed the salary needed with one move, it's a lot easier to replace internally or externally on the cheap. If you're having to replace 3 guys things get harder.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 5, 2014 16:58:23 GMT -5
That's the challenge Chicago is facing. Sure, Versteeg is useful enough and a lot of teams would like a Bryan Bickell on their team, but not at those salaries. Chicago's dilemma is that to get rid of those guys, they have to give up assets, like Tampa did with Purcell. They gave up Purcell for what, a 5th or 6th round pick? That's a horrible trade and since Bob Gainey is not around anymore to help out, that's going to be the cost of Cap problems.
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Post by christrpn on Jul 6, 2014 7:11:50 GMT -5
Moving Sharp is Chicago's best option. $5.9M is alot to remove from your books and if you can do while getting a multitude of picks, or even better, a player capable of helping you in the now, at the same position would be beneficial. Let's say a young prospect that is still on his ELC. Problem is, you have to find a partner that isn't looking to build a perennial contender, but one that is looking for that elusive cup right now. Like San Jose, or St-Louis. Boston would fit the bill if they weren't in the same predicament as Chicago.
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