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Post by seventeen on Apr 18, 2015 10:50:46 GMT -5
He's a straight line guy. He's also young. Just imagine if he gets over the yips. Exactly what this team needs. It's why MB got him. Sekac isn't even dressing. So they're both contributing equally.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 18, 2015 10:53:32 GMT -5
Tough to say. Sekac actually picked up a point here and there. Spelly has had some terrific chances and really looks like he freezes when an opportunity arises. the only way he'll score in future is if he just throws things at the net and hopes it hits something and goes in. That chance he had in the 2nd was gift wrapped. Just pass it into the corner and its a goal. But he's like me. Everything tightens up when a good chance happens. I'm the best at hitting goalies. Spelly's a close second. He hits and finished his checks, just doesn't know what to do when he has to use the puck. I wouldn't be too critical. On Subban's goal, there's no way any of our left-handed forwards would have corralled that puck before dishing it towards Subban. At this point, I think its' a fair assessment. He can skate up and down, he can throw checks. I don't expect him to score much and it's important to place him in roles and positions where his strengths work to the best for him and the club. And when a better option arises (cough, McCarron, cough), to make the necessary substitution as we would with any player.
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 18, 2015 12:15:24 GMT -5
He's a straight line guy. He's also young. Just imagine if he gets over the yips. Exactly what this team needs. It's why MB got him. Sekac isn't even dressing. So they're both contributing equally. Well the D-Train* does have one more point that Sekac does. I'm going to have to disagree with your assessment of Smith-Pelly. I think he's been one of our better forward these past two games. He has a Gallagher-like presence around the net, only without the chirping and the accidentally-on-purpose falling into the goalie. He's been strong in the corners, and defensively fine. Even got some penalty killing time. He had what? Six shots on goal last night? How many were from within 10 feet of the goalie? No, he hasn't scored, but he's been very involved, and a threat whenever he's on the ice. Plus, he hits hard. Real hard. He doesn't hit with his shoulder, or even just his upper body; he is like Emelin in that he hits you with everything. That check he threw on Karlsson, the one where Karlsson bounced three feet off the boards? That was a hard hit. Karlsson didn't go down, and he still made the play, but you know he felt that. That's what it means to play a "heavy" game, in my opinion. I've really liked his play so far. More so than De La Rose who seems to be fading, or even Galchenyuk who up until his goal seemed to be struggling. Hopefully that unblocks him. Smith-Pelly has come as advertised, in my opinion, and I like it. They say you aren't in trouble until you lose on home ice, so the series is far from over. Step on their neck boys, step on their neck. *And then the D-train rattled overhead and knocked the joor, door ajar, the joor adar, the door ajar, the door ajar, the jar adoor. The lock... the faulty lock, the door swung open... And killed her. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
- The Tragically Hip
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 18, 2015 12:27:05 GMT -5
I haven't been a DSP fan and still love Sekac's potential but will agree that DSP has been very good the last 2 games. If he plays like that throughout the playoffs I will be happy. And the goals will come and I will be even happier!
Eller is playing well but i believe only played about 13 mins last night. Pleks seemed to be to centre and played well but i'd be using Eller more. Rosey is fine. He rarely makes mistakes and is always effective defensively with his speed, size, and smarts.
I see Hammy playing next game. He was not the reason they lost last night. In fact he kept them in it in the third with some big saves, albeit flukey. But that's his game! Cameron will give him a game on home ice - he's earned it.
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Post by Disp on Apr 18, 2015 12:38:48 GMT -5
He's a straight line guy. He's also young. Just imagine if he gets over the yips. Exactly what this team needs. It's why MB got him. Sekac isn't even dressing. So they're both contributing equally. You can only think that if you place no value on physical play, points, etc, in general, exceptional hockey. He's been a factor, in both games.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 18, 2015 12:40:45 GMT -5
You have to give credit where credit is due .... Even someone as contrarian as me
DSP has performed as advertised in these playoffs so far, and even Devante knows he can and should give more. Some of his chances last night were easy goals; I'm not sure we will ever see the ANaheim Pelly , the guy that scores big game goals. But the guy we have now, was not the guy that we first acquired, and is the type of guy we absolutely need. Perhaps he was out of shape ...
Eller is a beast, I wish the playoff Eller, would show up in the regular season. It's crazy how hard he is to bump off the puck, and when he loses it, the hustle and determination in him to get it back.
Desharnais was invisible in game 1, but not so in game 2. I'm not one who is going to give the credit to Pacioretty, Pacioretty wasn't the reason Desharnais fought through check after check after check. There was one play where Borowieki (sp?) had him in the corner and pushed him, cross checked him, grabbed him, ...did DD fall down? Nope. He actually came out of it with the puck and the Senator on the ice .... Gotta say, that's impressive.
We haven't seen the real Price, Subban, or Pacioretty in this series yet .... If we do, watch out
That fourth line is something else , huh?
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Post by seventeen on Apr 18, 2015 17:43:14 GMT -5
So they're both contributing equally. You can only think that if you place no value on physical play, points, etc, in general, exceptional hockey. He's been a factor, in both games. And I think you may be seeing only the good things that he's brought to our game, which is appreciated. I'm glad he's finishing his checks, I'm glad he's backchecking. All I'm saying is that so far, it looks like his upside in other factors of the game is limited. He's being played in a top 6 role and I think for the most part that's just not him. When someone else comes along and produces the same hits and physical play, but produces more points, Mr Spelly's game time will likely be reduced. Until then, he's adding a physical dimension to our #2 line which is missing that. Fine. If he scores 20 goals and 50 points next year, I'll eat my hat. Without salt as I'm on a low salt diet.
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Post by Disp on Apr 18, 2015 18:32:51 GMT -5
You can only think that if you place no value on physical play, points, etc, in general, exceptional hockey. He's been a factor, in both games. And I think you may be seeing only the good things that he's brought to our game, which is appreciated. I'm glad he's finishing his checks, I'm glad he's backchecking. All I'm saying is that so far, it looks like his upside in other factors of the game is limited. He's being played in a top 6 role and I think for the most part that's just not him. When someone else comes along and produces the same hits and physical play, but produces more points, Mr Spelly's game time will likely be reduced. Until then, he's adding a physical dimension to our #2 line which is missing that. Fine. If he scores 20 goals and 50 points next year, I'll eat my hat. Without salt as I'm on a low salt diet. So Gallagher like production then? You'll probably be disappointed and your hat will be safe. It's not all about points. You could build a team of high scoring "cupcakes" that would be terrible. He brings a dimension that has been sorely lacking. I'd love it if we had a guy that could hit like DSP and score more. Right now that isn't the case.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 18, 2015 18:46:51 GMT -5
I was trying to think what a 2nd line winger should get in today's hockey. That seemed about right, but may be a bit high. Say 40 points, then, if he's bringing other intangibles to the table. I'm trying not to get my expectations up. That trade, in the overall scheme, was not a big deal. Kinda like a glass of port after a great meal. Nice to have, but you wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there. It would be a treat if he develops some scoring ability in addition to his physical play.
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Post by Disp on Apr 18, 2015 19:30:09 GMT -5
If you want a power forward, probably have to draft him. They don't grow on trees and teams don't like to give them up. MB took a chance at stealing one. If he's a 20/20 guy, playing the way he does, it's no minor deal. It's awesome.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 18, 2015 19:41:56 GMT -5
If you want a power forward, probably have to draft him. They don't grow on trees and teams don't like to give them up. MB took a chance at stealing one. If he's a 20/20 guy, playing the way he does, it's no minor deal. It's awesome. I agree disp, if DSP can give us 20/20 MB is a stud. I am confident that DSP will come to camp in great shape next year.
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Post by duster on Apr 18, 2015 20:58:44 GMT -5
I don't see DSP as a 20-20 guy but more as the type of player you need in the playoffs. The NHL game is too quick and the goaltending too good for him to be a scorer like he was in junior, imo. However, the Sens defense knows he's coming when the puck is dumped along the boards or in the corner of their zone and if that makes them rush their play a little bit, it's not a bad thing. I hope he keeps hitting Karlsson every change he gets.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 18, 2015 22:02:52 GMT -5
I think Bergevin did a great job building this team for the playoffs ... part of that was acquiring DSP, but he also added some pieces at the trade deadline ... all of the players he acquired, DSP, Flynn, Mitchell and Petry are all contributing at this point ... they haven't won anything yet ... still the team looks prepared ...
Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 19, 2015 1:25:12 GMT -5
Game 2 was pretty impressive as was PK. But of all the hi-lites in the game, the one I will always remember, and may become as famous as Patrick's wink to Sandstrom if we win the Cup, will be PK's (very) low five with Carey after the goal crease scramble. That was priceless. It illustrates the bond between our two stars. Remember when they use to do the low fives after the wins a few seasons ago (before it was banned)? I've often thought that Carey, being more subdued than PK, tolerated PK's antics. But upon further reflection, I think Carey understands PK and his lust for life and the game. Some see PK's enthusiasm as a character flaw. Carey understands it as a passion for the game and the fun it can provide.
Cheers to PK and Carey. May they hoist the Cup together!
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Post by Disp on Apr 19, 2015 8:21:08 GMT -5
I don't see DSP as a 20-20 guy but more as the type of player you need in the playoffs. The NHL game is too quick and the goaltending too good for him to be a scorer like he was in junior, imo. However, the Sens defense knows he's coming when the puck is dumped along the boards or in the corner of their zone and if that makes them rush their play a little bit, it's not a bad thing. I hope he keeps hitting Karlsson every change he gets. Yeah it's probably unlikely. He'll do stuff that won't show up on the scoresheet though. Forcing a player to rush a play cause he knows he's about to get crunched matters. Taking away time and space is a bit of a cliche, but it's important. This franchise has been pretty easy to play against for a long time.
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