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Post by Skilly on Mar 24, 2010 11:37:36 GMT -5
I'll add to this list as I think of them ...
Toronto via Montreal
Komisarek
Grabovski
Kordic
Gilmour
Corson
Lefebvre
Dipietro
Gingras
Daoust
Montreal via Toronto
Courtnall
Rusty is the only one I can think of that played with Toronto first, (since the 26 teams anyway) at the moment.
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 24, 2010 12:11:33 GMT -5
Going back to the 6-team league....(and I'm sure there are many other examples).
Paul Bibeault played with the Habs in 42-43....then with the Leafs in 43-44.
The reason it comes to mind: when I got Rocket Richard's autograph in 1993, the gentleman in front of me asked him, "Who was in net when you scored your 5 goals in the playoff game against the Leafs....Broda?"
Without missing a beat, Richard said, "No...it was Paul Bibeault. Broda didn't play that year or the next one."
Broda left hockey to serve in the military for the last two years of WWII.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 24, 2010 12:54:17 GMT -5
Going back to the 6-team league....(and I'm sure there are many other examples). Paul Bibeault played with the Habs in 42-43....then with the Leafs in 43-44. The reason it comes to mind: when I got Rocket Richard's autograph in 1993, the gentleman in front of me asked him, "Who was in net when you scored your 5 goals in the playoff game against the Leafs....Broda?" Without missing a beat, Richard said, "No...it was Paul Bibeault. Broda didn't play that year or the next one." Broda left hockey to serve in the military for the last two years of WWII. And the reason the Rocket was quick to name him was probably because Bibeault was a Montreal Canadien on loan to the Leafs ... |
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Post by franko on Mar 24, 2010 13:13:23 GMT -5
was that the first time or the second?
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 24, 2010 17:19:44 GMT -5
Going back to the 6-team league....(and I'm sure there are many other examples). Paul Bibeault played with the Habs in 42-43....then with the Leafs in 43-44. The reason it comes to mind: when I got Rocket Richard's autograph in 1993, the gentleman in front of me asked him, "Who was in net when you scored your 5 goals in the playoff game against the Leafs....Broda?" Without missing a beat, Richard said, "No...it was Paul Bibeault. Broda didn't play that year or the next one." Broda left hockey to serve in the military for the last two years of WWII. And the reason the Rocket was quick to name him was probably because Bibeault was a Montreal Canadien on loan to the Leafs ... I'd say he remembered who was in net because he was the one who scored the 5 goals.  Yes, Bibeault was on loan to Toronto....and then on loan to Boston. |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 24, 2010 19:00:41 GMT -5
Trivia question:Since the NHL went to 26 teams, name 7* players who immediately went from the CH to the Maple Leafs. I knew two off the top of my head. *there may be more than 7, but I have issues with math  Bonus trivia question:Name the Maple Leafs player who immediately went from there to the CH. Skilly got a little enthusiastic and found some guys who were pre-1993/94 season, which is when the NHL went to 26 teams. Enthusiasm is a good thing though I will bold the guys I had: I'll add to this list as I think of them ... Toronto via MontrealKomisarek
GrabovskiKordic (went to TO in 88-89) Gilmour
CorsonLefebvre (went to TO in 92-93) Dipietro (I didn't find this guy, but you're correct) Gingras (went to TO in 82-83) Daoust (ditto) Montreal via TorontoCourtnall (came to CH in 88-89) Rusty is the only one I can think of that played with Toronto first, (since the 26 teams anyway) at the moment. I also had Chad Kilger [I didn't count the 2 game stint with the Bulldogs against him) and Jonas Hoglund. I had Yanic Perreault coming to the CH from TO. CH with extra points for *extra* enthusiasm Going back to the 6-team league....(and I'm sure there are many other examples). Paul Bibeault played with the Habs in 42-43....then with the Leafs in 43-44.
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 25, 2010 6:55:30 GMT -5
We have a few guys who are quickly approaching milestones...
100 games: Halak needs 6, Pouliot needs 4
400 games: Bergeron needs 9 [so he better be playing next year, because he'll be one short by season's end]
Trivia question:
Current Hab. Looking at his career points, 56% of them have been PPP. Who is he?
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Post by Skilly on Mar 25, 2010 8:56:26 GMT -5
The name that immediately jumped into my head was Andrei Markov ... (now I have to check)
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 25, 2010 11:40:17 GMT -5
Trivia question:Current Hab. Looking at his career points, 56% of them have been PPP. Who is he? The name that immediately jumped into my head was Andrei Markov ... (now I have to check) Marc-André Bergeron The colour commentary guys on TSN mentioned it last night [at that point it was 105 of 188 points, for 55.85%]. Then he got an assist on AK's second goal, for 106 of 189 points [56.08%]. The boy does have a skill, and it's as a PP specialist. Too bad you can't dress 21 guys each night... *** I was looking for something else, and stumbled upon this: Trivia question:Current Hab. Who used to play for the New Jersey Rockin' Rollers?
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Post by LoupDogg on Mar 25, 2010 12:01:46 GMT -5
Pyatt?
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Post by Skilly on Mar 25, 2010 12:43:04 GMT -5
Trivia question:Current Hab. Looking at his career points, 56% of them have been PPP. Who is he? Marc-André Bergeron The colour commentary guys on TSN mentioned it last night [at that point it was 105 of 188 points, for 55.85%]. Then he got an assist on AK's second goal, for 106 of 189 points [56.08%]. The boy does have a skill, and it's as a PP specialist. Too bad you can't dress 21 guys each night... Andrei Markov .... 53.6% of his career points on the PP |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 25, 2010 18:03:02 GMT -5
Trivia question:Current Hab. Who used to play for the New Jersey Rockin' Rollers? Much older than Tom. He also played for 2 other rollerblading teams in the mid to late 90's.
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 25, 2010 18:04:37 GMT -5
Andrei Markov .... 53.6% of his career points on the PP So with that, we should have a new defensive pairing: Marc-André and Andrei |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 27, 2010 17:20:28 GMT -5
Trivia question:Current Hab. Who used to play for the New Jersey Rockin' Rollers? He also played for 2 other rollerblading teams in the mid to late 90's. In 1997 Glen Metropolit played for Jersey (2 games, 1 g, 1 a) and the Anaheim Bullfrogs (4 games, 5 g, 2 a). In 1996, he played for the Long Island Jawz (28 games, 32 g, 39 a). Too bad he was unable to translate his 96 success to actual hockey... he wouldn't have been traded around so much *** Trivia question:The number 30 is usually a goalie's number (or at least, in my opinion it is). Of the 12 #30's we've had, how many have not been goalies and what are their names?
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Post by Skilly on Mar 27, 2010 19:08:47 GMT -5
Trivia question:The number 30 is usually a goalie's number (or at least, in my opinion it is). Of the 12 #30's we've had, how many have not been goalies and what are their names? 12? 1. Jean Guy Morrisette 2. Lorne Worley 3. Gary Bauman 4. Rogatien Vachon 5. Tony Esposito 6. Phillipe Myer 7. Wayne Thomas 8. Rodney Schutt9. Pat Hughes10. Keith Acton11. Rick Meagher12. Chris Nilan13. Turner Stevenson14. Jean-Francois Jomphe 15. Mathieu Garon 16. David Aebischer Players in blue are non-goalies |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 29, 2010 5:23:20 GMT -5
Trivia question:The number 30 is usually a goalie's number (or at least, in my opinion it is). Of the 12 #30's we've had, how many have not been goalies and what are their names? 12? 1. Jean Guy Morrisette 2. Lorne Worsley 3. Gary Bauman 4. Rogatien Vachon 5. Tony Esposito 6. Phillipe Myer 7. Wayne Thomas 8. Rodney Schutt9. Pat Hughes10. Keith Acton11. Rick Meagher12. Chris Nilan13. Turner Stevenson14. Jean-Francois Jomphe 15. Mathieu Garon 16. David Aebischer Players in blue are non-goalies I think the site I was checking used their "most-worn" number, but you are correct in that they all wore #30. 2. Lorne also wore #1 4. Rogatien also wore #1 and #29 9. Pat also wore #31 (and he *still* wasn't a goalie ) 10. Keith also wore #12 14. Jean-François wasn't a goalie, he was a C *** Trivia question:Who scored his 400th goal on December 18, 1954?
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 29, 2010 9:18:11 GMT -5
Rocket Richard on Chicago's Al Rollins in a 4-1 win.
(source: wikipedia)
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 29, 2010 11:26:08 GMT -5
Trivia question:Who scored his 400th goal on December 18, 1954? Rocket Richard on Chicago's Al Rollins in a 4-1 win. (source: wikipedia) (source: The Montreal Canadiens 100 Years of Glory) *** Trivia question:Who knit his own toques, socks, scarves and underwear (he must not have had a wool allergy ) because his mom was too busy to do so?
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Post by Skilly on Mar 29, 2010 12:07:19 GMT -5
Jacques Plante?
The "underwear" threw me for a loop ... he knitted undershirts, which technically is underwear
Excerpt from "Jacques Plante: The Man Who Changed The Face of Hockey"
Jacques, the oldest child of Xavier and Palma Plante, was born in a wooden farmhouse near Mont Carmel in Mauricie, Quebec, on January 17, 1929. Soon afterwards, Xavier moved with his wife and baby to Shawinigan Falls, where he had secured employment with the Aluminum Company of Canada Limited.
"Dad was a machinist who had to work hard – harder than any man I have ever known," Jacques later said. "He even got a temporary job during his holidays while working for the aluminum company – just to raise a bit more money. He had a bicycle to get him to and from work, two miles each way. I can't recall him taking a single day off. Whenever I won an award in the NHL, I thought of my father and the pride he would get in reading about it and having people mention it to him."
Jacques was not an only child for long. Over the next thirteen years, he would be joined by five brothers and five sisters. With a burgeoning family, Palma Plante found her time at a premium, so as they got older each of the children was expected to help with the household chores. Being the oldest in such a large family meant that Jacques was given responsibilities rare for many his age. His chores included scrubbing floors, cooking, and changing diapers. With not much in the way of extra money, most of the children's clothing was handmade, and Jacques became proficient with a needle, some thread, and yarn. These were skills he carried into his adulthood and contributed to his legend.
With such a big brood and only one income, everyone in the Plante house was required to sacrifice some of the things that others better off were able to enjoy. This was most apparent to little Jacques in the hot summer months, when he was allowed to wear shoes only for Sunday Mass or the odd special event. Most times he went barefoot.
"The shoes proved everything is relative," Plante wrote later. "All of us kids in the neighbourhood had to go shoeless for the same reason – all except the landlord's son, because his father had more income."
Years later, when his hockey career had taken him away from his impoverished beginnings, many teammates as well as members of the press were taken aback by Plante's habit of knitting his own undershirts, socks, toques, and scarves. But he would always speak with pride of his ability to knit a pair of socks in a day and a toque in a mere three and a half hours. Throughout his life, Plante used knitting as a form of relaxation, oblivious to the reaction of those around him; this was his way to unwind after being the target of onrushing pucks. However, typical of the man, there was also a practical side to his needlework.
"I can't get what I want in the stores," Plante explained of his choice in undergarments, "so I knit [them]. I use four-ply wool. They must not be too warm. I use larger needles because small ones produce a thicker weaving and the holes are too small."
As an adult, Jacques Plante was misunderstood by many around him. They questioned why he continued to knit, why he was so frugal with his money, and why he kept his distance from those closest to him. The answers to many of these questions lay in his childhood.
"He grew up poor and was very proud of it," explains sportswriter Frank Orr. "He learned a lot of good lessons from it. He was deprived because there was no money around, but it taught Jacques the value of a dollar."
"He was very careful with money," confirms his former teammate Dickie Moore. "He came up poor and he grew up the right way. He didn't spend what he didn't have and he saved what he had. I admired him for that – he was an individual. There's a reason he kept his money. He wanted to end up with something, and that's what he did."
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 29, 2010 13:44:31 GMT -5
Trivia question:Who knit his own toques, socks, scarves and underwear (he must not have had a wool allergy ) because his mom was too busy to do so? Jacques Plante? The "underwear" threw me for a loop ... he knitted undershirts, which technically is underwear Excerpt from "Jacques Plante: The Man Who Changed The Face of Hockey" "He grew up poor and was very proud of it," explains sportswriter Frank Orr. "He learned a lot of good lessons from it. He was deprived because there was no money around, but it taught Jacques the value of a dollar." "He was very careful with money," confirms his former teammate Dickie Moore. "He came up poor and he grew up the right way. He didn't spend what he didn't have and he saved what he had. I admired him for that – he was an individual. There's a reason he kept his money. He wanted to end up with something, and that's what he did." [/i][/quote] I wish someone had taught me that... before I figured out what credit cards were  Thanks for the story, mon frère. BTW, Jacques was right about using larger needles to get a bigger "weave" (this I know first-hand, since I knit too). *** Back to jerseys and their numbers. Trivia question:Which set of numbers has been worn the fewest times by members of the CH? Is it 60-69, 70-79, 80-89 or 90-99? And because I know you're all *wanting* to know, 47 has been worn 4 times [because I can't miss an op to mention my baby whenever I can ]
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Post by Skilly on Mar 29, 2010 14:07:31 GMT -5
60-69
FIVE numbers worn by SEVEN players (Most popular number 64 and 61, 2 players)
60 - Jose Theodore
61 - Jason Ward; Ben Maxwell
63 - Craig Darby
64 - Armond Mondou; Jean-Phillippe Cote
65 - Ron Hainsey
70-79
EIGHT numbers worn by FOURTEEN players (Most popular number 75, 6 players)
71 - Sebastien Bordeleau; Mike Ribeiro
73 - Michael Ryder
74 - Sergei Kostitsyn
75 - John Portland; Tony Savage; Desse Roche; Leroy Goldsworthy; Yann Danis; Hal Gill
76 - Josef Balej
77 - Pierre Turgeon
78 - Eric Landry
79 - Andrei Markov
80-89
FIVE numbers worn by SEVEN players (most popular number 88, 3 players)
90-99
SIX numbers worn by TEN players (most popular number 99, 3 players)
* had to run off before I finished
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Post by jkr on Mar 29, 2010 17:52:10 GMT -5
Jacques Plante? The "underwear" threw me for a loop ... he knitted undershirts, which technically is underwear Excerpt from "Jacques Plante: The Man Who Changed The Face of Hockey"
[/i][/quote] Read this book & heartily recommend it. |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 29, 2010 18:41:29 GMT -5
Thanks to Skilly for this list, and I will add to it in purple. I'm telling ya, the man has mad, mad skillz 60-69FIVE (nine) numbers worn by SEVEN (either ten or eleven) players (Most popular number 64 and 61, 2 players) 60 - Jose Theodore 61 - Jason Ward; Ben Maxwell (are you sure about Ben? I've got him with 80)
62 - Duncan Milroy63 - Craig Darby 64 - Armand Mondou; Jean-Phillippe Cote 65 - Ron Hainsey 66 - Armand Mondou
67 - Max Pacioretty
68 - Yannick Weber70-79EIGHT (ten) numbers worn by FOURTEEN (seventeen) players (Most popular number 75, 6 players) 70 - Gregory Stewart71 - Sebastien Bordeleau; Mike Ribeiro, Patrice Brisebois
72 - Mathieu Carle73 - Michael Ryder 74 - Sergei Kostitsyn 75 - John Portland; Tony Savage; Desse Roche; Leroy Goldsworthy; Yann Danis; Hal Gill 76 - Josef Balej 77 - Pierre Turgeon 78 - Eric Landry 79 - Andrei Markov 80-89FIVE (seven) numbers worn by SEVEN (nine, with your 3rd 88) players (most popular number 88, 3 players) 80 - Ben Maxwell
81 - Marcel Hossa
82 - Donald Audette
83 - Eric Bertrand
84 - Guillaume Latendresse
86 - Jonathan Ferland
88 - Xavier Delisle, Roger Jenkins90-99SIX numbers worn by TEN players (most popular number 99, 3 players) 90 - Joé Juneau
91 - Scott Gomez
93 - Doug Gilmour
94 - Yanic Perreault, Tom Pyatt
95 - Sergei Berezin, Olivier Michaud
99 - Léo Bourgeault, Joe Lamb, Desse RocheSkilly, I tried to finish off the list for you. Feel free to double-check and correct as you see fit... who is that 3rd #88? *** Trivia question:Who, rather than lose the scoring title, refused surgery and instead wore a cast from his palm to his elbow? BTW, he did win the scoring race that season. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 30, 2010 9:09:43 GMT -5
Thanks to Skilly for this list, and I will add to it in purple. I'm telling ya, the man has mad, mad skillz 60-69FIVE (nine) numbers worn by SEVEN (either ten or eleven) players (Most popular number 64 and 61, 2 players) 60 - Jose Theodore 61 - Jason Ward; Ben Maxwell (are you sure about Ben? I've got him with 80)
62 - Duncan Milroy63 - Craig Darby 64 - Armand Mondou; Jean-Phillippe Cote 65 - Ron Hainsey 66 - Armand Mondou
67 - Max Pacioretty
68 - Yannick Weber70-79EIGHT (ten) numbers worn by FOURTEEN (seventeen) players (Most popular number 75, 6 players) 70 - Gregory Stewart71 - Sebastien Bordeleau; Mike Ribeiro, Patrice Brisebois
72 - Mathieu Carle73 - Michael Ryder 74 - Sergei Kostitsyn 75 - John Portland; Tony Savage; Desse Roche; Leroy Goldsworthy; Yann Danis; Hal Gill 76 - Josef Balej 77 - Pierre Turgeon 78 - Eric Landry 79 - Andrei Markov 80-89FIVE (seven) numbers worn by SEVEN (nine, with your 3rd 88) players (most popular number 88, 3 players) 80 - Ben Maxwell
81 - Marcel Hossa
82 - Donald Audette
83 - Eric Bertrand
84 - Guillaume Latendresse
86 - Jonathan Ferland
88 - Xavier Delisle, Roger Jenkins90-99SIX numbers worn by TEN players (most popular number 99, 3 players) 90 - Joé Juneau
91 - Scott Gomez
93 - Doug Gilmour
94 - Yanic Perreault, Tom Pyatt
95 - Sergei Berezin, Olivier Michaud
99 - Léo Bourgeault, Joe Lamb, Desse RocheSkilly, I tried to finish off the list for you. Feel free to double-check and correct as you see fit... who is that 3rd #88? I wasn't finished Val ... I was changing the total as I was finding them ... I hadn't gone completely threw the last 5 years. (2005-2010). The 2006 Habs media guide was my source. The third number 88 was none other than Christopher Higgins. That was the number he wore his first two games with the Habs. The reason I remember was that was the number I used to wear, (I wanted #8), and rolled my eyes to see Chris wearing it ... Yes, I am pretty sure about Ben Maxwell ... canadiens.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8473493 He probably changed to 80 during the year, since all photos of him on the canadiens website show him wearing #80. He wore #91 with the Bulldogs, and turning the "9" upside down probably seemed good at the time. However, the possibility does exist that he only wore #61 in the pre-season, I havent ruled that out yet ... Armound Mondou did not wear #66 .... the Habs have never had a #66 |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 30, 2010 10:00:14 GMT -5
Speaking of number trivia ....
There are 11 numbers never worn by a Hab. Nine of those numbers are easily determined above ... what are the other two?
What are the two most worn numbers in Habs history? (one number was worn 72 times, the other was worn 70 times ... both numbers are currently NOT in use)
Of the 99 numbers available to be worn on an NHL jersey, they have all been worn when you consider every team (88 number have been worn by the Habs alone). Which number was the last to be worn and who wore it?
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 30, 2010 10:10:30 GMT -5
I wasn't finished Val ... I was changing the total as I was finding them ... I hadn't gone completely threw the last 5 years. (2005-2010). The 2006 Habs media guide was my source. The third number 88 was none other than Christopher Higgins. That was the number he wore his first two games with the Habs. The reason I remember was that was the number I used to wear, (I wanted #8), and rolled my eyes to see Chris wearing it ... Yes, I am pretty sure about Ben Maxwell ... canadiens.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8473493He probably changed to 80 during the year, since all photos of him on the canadiens website show him wearing #80. He wore #91 with the Bulldogs, and turning the "9" upside down probably seemed good at the time. However, the possibility does exist that he only wore #61 in the pre-season, I havent ruled that out yet ... Armound Mondou did not wear #66 .... the Habs have never had a #66 I knew you weren't done, but you were gone for a bit and weren't online when I logged on last night, so I thought I'd help you finish. I think you know what source I'm using (if not, it's below) Higgins, forgot about him I give you your proof for Ben, that's pretty incontrovertible right there, lol! My source for Mondou and his #66 is: ourhistory.canadiens.com/player/Armand-Mondou |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 30, 2010 10:12:31 GMT -5
Speaking of number trivia .... There are 11 numbers never worn by a Hab. Nine of those numbers are easily determined above ... what are the other two? What are the two most worn numbers in Habs history? (one number was worn 72 times, the other was worn 70 times ... both numbers are currently NOT in use) Of the 99 numbers available to be worn on an NHL jersey, they have all been worn when you consider every team (88 number have been worn by the Habs alone). Which number was the last to be worn and who wore it? I know the third one off the bat, no need to look it up: 84 Guillaume Latendresse. Now watch me be wrong ;D |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 30, 2010 10:21:43 GMT -5
Listed under Other numbers: 5, 9, 10, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 44, 64, 66 hmmmmmmm? One of our sources needs to do their homework better ... so who do you belive? The Habs official website? Or the Habs official media guide? hmmmmmmm?  Here is the page for the media guide .... I went through all those numbers and his name is not listed for #44 and #66. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 30, 2010 10:23:35 GMT -5
Speaking of number trivia .... There are 11 numbers never worn by a Hab. Nine of those numbers are easily determined above ... what are the other two? What are the two most worn numbers in Habs history? (one number was worn 72 times, the other was worn 70 times ... both numbers are currently NOT in use) Of the 99 numbers available to be worn on an NHL jersey, they have all been worn when you consider every team (88 number have been worn by the Habs alone). Which number was the last to be worn and who wore it? I know the third one off the bat, no need to look it up: 84 Guillaume Latendresse. Now watch me be wrong ;D That is correct |
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Mar 30, 2010 13:06:53 GMT -5
Speaking of number trivia .... There are 11 numbers never worn by a Hab. Nine of those numbers are easily determined above ... what are the other two? What are the two most worn numbers in Habs history? (one number was worn 72 times, the other was worn 70 times ... both numbers are currently NOT in use) The other 2 numbers not worn were 43 and 50. Since our sources don't match, I'm taking a stab at most worn: 8 and 12. I'm probably wrong And since my source searches by last number worn, I officially give up, unless someone else knows the answer and wants to post it... |
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