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Post by seventeen on Jun 16, 2010 0:56:49 GMT -5
I have a few Portuguese friends here in town, CH. They get these frowns on their faces when I tell them I just can't route for Portugal. I know diving seems to be part of the game now, but I find Portugal to be the poster team for that. Ronaldo got a yellow card today for scrumming with a CIV player after he was taken down blatantly and no call was made. This is where it's easy to criticise a ref if you haven't watched the whole game. Earlier, a Cote D'Ivoire player came within 6 inches of Ronaldo who went down as if poleaxed and got a call. I think the ref figure out he'd been scammed on that one, so the second was payback and Ronaldo took a hard hit with no call. Karma. And I agreed with the ref. That's the only way you discourage that behaviour. A few yellow cards for diving would do it too. Also, Dis, I'm not sure the pack of 'worst at diving' isn't quite large. Portugal could well be in that group. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 16, 2010 1:06:29 GMT -5
The best right-back in the world, Maicon, scored the goal of the tournament today (so far). Either attacking or defending, he owns the right flank, and that goal he scored was magnificent. Kind of reminiscent of the spin Roberto Carlos used to put on the ball. It is no wonder Mourinho considers him a must to follow him from Inter to Real. Any chance of putting a vid up of it, Yossarian? Cheers. The NK goalie overplayed the pass on that play. The ball was about 2 feet from the touch line, 10 yards from the left post when Maicon blasted it and it went in the short side, but the goalie had left about 3 to 4 feet of space there, quite a lot, even if you are playing the pass. Smart of Maicon to try it, though Brazilians do act like riverboat gamblers. I thought the second goal was the better one. Elano made a break from the right wing with several Koreans between him and Robinho, but Robinho saw him and then made a not too difficult pass past the defenders onto Elano's path and he side footed into the far side. The identification of Elano's move was the key part of that goal. Easier for us to see it from way up in the stands than for Robinho to pick it up at ground level. |
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Post by Rimmer on Jun 16, 2010 3:09:46 GMT -5
I have a few Portuguese friends here in town, CH. They get these frowns on their faces when I tell them I just can't route for Portugal. I know diving seems to be part of the game now, but I find Portugal to be the poster team for that. Ronaldo got a yellow card today for scrumming with a CIV player after he was taken down blatantly and no call was made. This is where it's easy to criticise a ref if you haven't watched the whole game. Earlier, a Cote D'Ivoire player came within 6 inches of Ronaldo who went down as if poleaxed and got a call. I think the ref figure out he'd been scammed on that one, so the second was payback and Ronaldo took a hard hit with no call. Karma. And I agreed with the ref. That's the only way you discourage that behaviour. A few yellow cards for diving would do it too. Also, Dis, I'm not sure the pack of 'worst at diving' isn't quite large. Portugal could well be in that group. It's funny how football transformed from one of the more brutal sports during 60's-80's to what it is now. when I watch old games, like 1966. WC for example where the best player in the world Pele was brutally beaten by Bulgarians IIRC and had to miss the rest of the tournament, I can see why FIFA instructed referees to protect the players. but this has gone too far IMHO and players began to take advantage of it. For every competition, I would have a board responsible to review each game and decide if there were situations where a player had dived (or embelished a foul) and got away with it. such player would get a yellow card after the match for his behaviour. I think it might help clean the game of such acts because this is getting ridiculous. I think a video review during the game would break the flow of the game so I wouldn't go that route. r. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 16, 2010 7:47:16 GMT -5
Any chance of putting a vid up of it, Yossarian? Cheers. The NK goalie overplayed the pass on that play. The ball was about 2 feet from the touch line, 10 yards from the left post when Maicon blasted it and it went in the short side, but the goalie had left about 3 to 4 feet of space there, quite a lot, even if you are playing the pass. Smart of Maicon to try it, though Brazilians do act like riverboat gamblers. I thought the second goal was the better one. Elano made a break from the right wing with several Koreans between him and Robinho, but Robinho saw him and then made a not too difficult pass past the defenders onto Elano's path and he side footed into the far side. The identification of Elano's move was the key part of that goal. Easier for us to see it from way up in the stands than for Robinho to pick it up at ground level. I did see it then, 17, thanks. I've blown calls as a referee before and you usually know it right away. I was a "Regional" level ref in volleyball and if I knew I blew a call I'd rule for a re-serve right away. However, sometimes you don't know until later when you get feedback; team captains/coaches off to the side after the game. But, I never had one of my supervisors ever talk to me after the game because I had blown it (and when you're starting out it can be rough). I usually ended up making a call to ask advise. I'm not so sure what can be done in soccer, though. I think Rimmer's also right in that, once an official figures he's been duped, it's possible he'll send a message later on. And he may not even know he's doing it; he'll just do it and think about it afterward. I think it will be interesting to see how England comes out against Algeria on Friday. They simply have to win from this point, on. But, the USA has a door now and if they get lucky again ... Germany? Well, I've got my fingers crossed for them. It's too bad I can't get to see any of the games live through the week, but that's the way it goes. Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Jun 16, 2010 10:00:02 GMT -5
Dis,
If you've got access to the Internet at *ahem* work, CBC's streaming feed is somewhat better today. Video still goes blurry from time to time, but the audio is fairly close to be synced and the game is not jumping forwards and backwards in time.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 16, 2010 10:23:41 GMT -5
Dis, If you've got access to the Internet at *ahem* work, CBC's streaming feed is somewhat better today. Video still goes blurry from time to time, but the audio is fairly close to be synced and the game is not jumping forwards and backwards in time. It depends on the site, BLNY. I can't get streaming because of the bandwidth it eats and if everyone at work got streaming ... I'll check it out at lunch and see what I can pull up. I get on here in between classes and scheduled breaks. That's about it. Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 16, 2010 11:13:06 GMT -5
I was kind of interested in hearing how Switzerland would fair against Spain. The Swiss take all of their sports very seriously and they do reasonably well for such a small nation.
I saw the goal from the PC that has streaming here in the building. The result of going hard to the net and hard work. However, I caught the CBC announcers saying that Spain pretty much dominated the game territorially and simply couldn't finish.
Sounds like our playoff run in a way.
Still, hats off to Switzerland for their 1-0 win over Spain. Love it when the unexpected happens at the WC.
Cheers.
Edit: I just read on Sportsnet that the Swiss haven't given up a WC goal in 490 minutes. Quite the accomplishment.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 16, 2010 12:59:26 GMT -5
22 guys on a field kicking a ball. Sometimes it hits one in the head. Very infrequently it goes into one of the nets and a player runs and slides on the grass.
Amazing medical discoveries cure terrible shin injuries in seconds.
Yawn!
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Post by Yossarian on Jun 16, 2010 17:19:25 GMT -5
Any chance of putting a vid up of it, Yossarian? Cheers. The NK goalie overplayed the pass on that play. The ball was about 2 feet from the touch line, 10 yards from the left post when Maicon blasted it and it went in the short side, but the goalie had left about 3 to 4 feet of space there, quite a lot, even if you are playing the pass. Smart of Maicon to try it, though Brazilians do act like riverboat gamblers. I thought the second goal was the better one. Elano made a break from the right wing with several Koreans between him and Robinho, but Robinho saw him and then made a not too difficult pass past the defenders onto Elano's path and he side footed into the far side. The identification of Elano's move was the key part of that goal. Easier for us to see it from way up in the stands than for Robinho to pick it up at ground level. Yeah, 17, I agree. The keeper was definitely playing the cross, but it was still an amazing placement of the ball by Maicon. Even as a AS Roma fan, I've become such a fan of his. 7 goals in all competitions this year was pretty stellar for a fullback. As I mentioned, Mourinho knows who buttered his bread this year, as Real are making hard pushes for both Maicon and Milito to jump ship from Inter and follow him. Here is a link of the goal, Dis: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSo9oRUxeMk |
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Post by franko on Jun 16, 2010 18:41:25 GMT -5
I don't look for these . . . really! Of all the people that should stumble upon them . . . but like the good guy I am, I pass them along for those who appreciate . . . nice uniforms Germany:   |
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Post by franko on Jun 16, 2010 18:42:00 GMT -5
Italy:  |
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Post by franko on Jun 16, 2010 18:42:37 GMT -5
England:  |
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Post by franko on Jun 16, 2010 18:43:04 GMT -5
Brazil:  |
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Post by franko on Jun 16, 2010 18:43:44 GMT -5
Not sure, and I don't want to know  |
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Post by blny on Jun 16, 2010 21:08:07 GMT -5
With so many teeth, I'd have thought England  |
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Post by clear observer on Jun 17, 2010 10:36:12 GMT -5
GREECE SCORES to take the lead after falling behind 1-0 at the 15 min mark!
2 -1 Greece with 18 mins to go!!!!
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Post by franko on Jun 17, 2010 11:02:02 GMT -5
you're kidding me!
may have to go to the stream . . .
OK: caught the highlights.
Greece with 3 yellow cards? What . . . they're moving from the streets to the soccer pitch?
And that was not a good goal to lose with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2010 15:24:36 GMT -5
Wow. France looks absolutely abysmal. Mexico leads 2-0 with just over 5 minutes to go in the 2nd half.
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Post by roke on Jun 17, 2010 19:24:15 GMT -5
Wow. France looks absolutely abysmal. Mexico leads 2-0 with just over 5 minutes to go in the 2nd half. They should have fired their coach after Euro 2008, then during the World Cup Qualifiers, then after the qualifiers, and finally before the World Cup started. They didn't and they're paying the price. Domenech completely lost the players 2 years ago. Result of the tourny so far has to be Spain losing 1-nil to Switzerland. That 2nd half was probably the best part of the tournament so far (although I haven't seen today's matches). I absolutely love a talented side down a goal desperately trying to breakdown a well-organized defensive side. It makes for compelling, tension-filled football with a fair number of chances. |
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Post by franko on Jun 18, 2010 8:39:23 GMT -5
What next? Serbia upsets 10-man Germany 1-0 Milan Jovanovic scored one minute after Germany striker Miroslav Klose was ejected Friday, giving Serbia a 1-0 upset win over the three-time World Cup champions.
Serbia goalkeeper Vladimir Stojkovic stopped Lukas Podolski’s penalty kick for Germany in the 60th minute, after Nemanja Vidic got a yellow card for a hand ball.
Spanish referee Alberto Undiano handed out nine yellow cards, the most so far in any game at this year’s tournament.
Germany played a man down from the 37th minute, when Klose was ejected for getting a second yellow card. Jovanovic scored a minute later to give Serbia its first World Cup win as an independent nation.
Both teams now have three points after two games in Group D.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 18, 2010 11:12:54 GMT -5
That's the World Cup for you, Franko. I'm betting most of Germany is in bewliderment right about now.
Just don't know about these smaller countries, man. Nine yellow cards? A trigger-happy official or just undisciplined play?
Cheers.
Edit: The USA is making a splash as well. They came back from being down 2-0 to tie their game. Son of a gun.
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Post by franko on Jun 18, 2010 11:21:12 GMT -5
refs taking lessons from Kerry Fraser, Dis . . . can't let the players be the stars
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Post by roke on Jun 18, 2010 12:25:52 GMT -5
2 games with questionable officiating and Benito Archundia was not one of the officials.
The best (well... worst) is yet to come guys.
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Post by Rimmer on Jun 18, 2010 12:26:48 GMT -5
Dis,
Germany played well even after Klose picked up his 2nd yellow card and had several good chances to tie the game. they also missed a penalty shot (Podolski). stats can sometimes be deceiving, but shots were 15:10 in Germany's favour which is pretty indicative of their good play down one man for more than half a game.
they will have a tough job against Ghana in their last group match though.
r.
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Post by blny on Jun 18, 2010 12:49:43 GMT -5
I'm as baffled as the American squad is after the ref in that game disallowed a goal that came from a late free kick. It would have won the game for the US.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 18, 2010 12:53:58 GMT -5
The US was cheated out of a win by the ref. Instant replay shows that many mistakes were made. No way will soccer ever be recognized as a real sport in the US.
Don't care what the rest of the world plays or what Mali referees think they see.
FIFA is blowing smoke out of the vuvuzelas stuck in their a$$.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................
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Post by franko on Jun 18, 2010 13:13:53 GMT -5
wow, HF . . . I can't imagine what you'd be saying about the game if you actually liked soccer ;D
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 18, 2010 16:12:53 GMT -5
wow, HF . . . I can't imagine what you'd be saying about the game if you actually liked soccer ;D We need good referees like they have in the equally boring sport, baseball. Send the mali ref to the first baseman umpires school to call safe and out.  Soccer, baseball or watch noisy nascars going around in circles. Nothing more obnoxioux than watching movie stars sitting front row at Lakers games and now even that is over. Watch Tiger Woods complain about the greens? Not as exciting now that Elin isn't on the sidelines cheering. Going to the Draft and then hurry up training camp. Montreal Canadiens.......nothing else comes close. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 18, 2010 16:25:06 GMT -5
Just when you thought nothing could top the fan reaction to the Halak trade, a few football super powers (in their own eyes) come tumbling down to earth.
The Mexicans stun the defending runners-up France 2-0 yesterday, sending a brooding nation to a whole new level of poutdom. The croissants all taste bitter this morning. The Germans fall 1-0 to Serbia after pounding all those kangaroos 4-0 in their first game. No steins of beer for you!!
And now, in the first ever matchup between Algeria (mainly made up of French born players) hold England to a nil-nil draw. The entire nation is jumping in front of trains this evening is response to this major disappointment. Of course the privatized Brit Rail trains are all late, so all the lives are spared. What a team without any team chemistry. A team of perennial underachievement on the international stage. I would say "Leaf-like" but they usually field a better team on paper than the Leafs do.
Now, where the heck did I put my vuvuzela with its Habs sticker again? All that droning noise in my ears can only be from the likes of guys like Todd and Fisher getting caught up in Halakamania without doing a shred of research.
Speaking of vuvuzelas, they may come in handy for all the Habs fans who invade McMahon Stadium next February. All that horrible noise is one thing and would knock the fragile Flames off their game, but I bet they make great beer funnels too. All kidding aside, I sure hope they don't invade other sporting venues.
This intrepid football reporter is...over and out.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 18, 2010 16:29:09 GMT -5
I'm as baffled as the American squad is after the ref in that game disallowed a goal that came from a late free kick. It would have won the game for the US. Stunning. What's even worse is the ref has refused to identify the foul and who it was on. Imagine an NFL game where a side gets called for a foul but the ref won't say what the foul is and who the player is. If you look at the replay, the clutching and grabbing is ALL coming from the Slovenian side. I've watched the replay 10 times and can't find a US player who did anything wrong. |
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