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Post by BadCompany on Mar 5, 2014 12:55:01 GMT -5
***Canadiens acquire Dubnyk for futures*** could have had him on waivers .... What the fu*k....inept management when you could of got him for free. They did get him for free. Actually, they got him for better than free - they got the Preds to pay them to take him! |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 5, 2014 12:57:53 GMT -5
Oilers and Preds are already paying for big chunks of his salary. Cheap cheap pickup for Montreal. Exactly, a cheaper way than via waivers. Cheap insurance move. He's a big guy. Can he play in front of the net on the PP? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 5, 2014 12:58:06 GMT -5
Dave Stubbs dave_Stubbs Price practised lightly yesterday. #Habs acquire Dubnyk for short-term depth or because Price is ailing a little... worse than thought #hio Dave Stubbs dave_Stubbs For future considerations, creating present panic: goalie Devan Dubnyk #Habs bound from Preds. Budaj's backup if Price injury lingers... |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 5, 2014 12:59:44 GMT -5
My main concern is Price's health...
But Dubnyk is only 27....and, as mentioned above, perhaps Waite can get his confidence back.
Whatever.....now let's get some help SCORING 5-ON-5!!!!
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 5, 2014 13:04:29 GMT -5
My main concern is Price's health... But Dubnyk is only 27....and, as mentioned above, perhaps Waite can get his confidence back. Whatever.....now let's get some help SCORING 5-ON-5!!!! He's a UFA and if he doesn't work out, no loss. If he improves and Waite can work with him, maybe we can trade sign and trade him at the draft. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 5, 2014 13:04:46 GMT -5
Unless something bigger is going on, I have no idea how this braintrust works... We always think that but it never happens. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 5, 2014 13:13:02 GMT -5
Yup. then you look at Tampa, where Yzerman took over at about the same time as Bergevin. They have a coach who seems to know what he's doing. They got an above average goaltender for a guy having a hot year who has now been put on waivers by his other team, and they've traded a declining, 38 year old well known asset; for 2 months from a heart and soul player who isn't the best scorer, a first rounder in 2015 which is being touted as a deep draft and a 2nd rounder this year. Somehow, they keep getting better. We keep wallowing despite having some decent players.
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:16:54 GMT -5
Yup. then you look at Tampa, where Yzerman took over at about the same time as Bergevin. They have a coach who seems to know what he's doing. They got an above average goaltender for a guy having a hot year who has now been put on waivers by his other team, and they've traded a declining, 38 year old well known asset; for 2 months from a heart and soul player who isn't the best scorer, a first rounder in 2015 which is being touted as a deep draft and a 2nd rounder this year. Somehow, they keep getting better. We keep wallowing despite having some decent players. The flip side of that is looking at the deal from the perspective of who got the best player. St Louis is still more than a ppg player. He's still on a favorable contract. He still plans to play beyond this contract. Picks are no guarantee, and if Callahan did decide to sign an extension the Rangers get a first. Bishop was a steal for sure, but the Lightning are not better from this trade today. |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:19:30 GMT -5
Kings get Gaborik. Trade call pending. Looks like player, pick and CBJ eating a big chunk of salary.
Isles better get moving on Vanek.
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Post by habernac on Mar 5, 2014 13:20:35 GMT -5
St Louis stamps his feet and cries, gives one team name as the only team he'll accept a trade to. Yzerman gets useful assets out of it. AMAZING deal for Tampa.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 5, 2014 13:22:33 GMT -5
Kings get Gaborik. Trade call pending. Looks like player, pick and CBJ eating a big chunk of salary. Isles better get moving on Vanek. Be interesting to see how gaborik does in LA. Will the leaders there keep him focused? |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:24:05 GMT -5
Kings get Gaborik. Trade call pending. Looks like player, pick and CBJ eating a big chunk of salary. Isles better get moving on Vanek. Be interesting to see how gaborik does in LA. Will the leaders there keep him focused? Health is my only question. He's not going to grind, so he's not a Sutter player. He can skate and he can score. |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:28:22 GMT -5
Return for Gaborik is Matt Frattin and 2 picks.
That's not a significant return imo, pending what the picks are. Frattin is a declining prospect. he's 25. Prices for Vanek and Moulson have to be dropping, otherwise they're not moving.
EDIT: Looking like a 2nd and a 3rd. Thin, especially when you factor CBJ is eating a lot of the remaining salary.
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 5, 2014 13:32:18 GMT -5
Columbus must have more plans....as they're sitting in a wild-card spot at the moment.
Gaborik wasn't lighting it up...but he's certainly more of a threat than Frattin.
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:34:17 GMT -5
Columbus must have more plans....as they're sitting in a wild-card spot at the moment. Gaborik wasn't lighting it up...but he's certainly more of a threat than Frattin. Yeah, I don't get it either. Unless they've got a sign and trade in place with Moulson, it doesn't make much sense. I can't see Vanek going there, and signing. |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:49:01 GMT -5
Looks like Pens acquired Marcel Goc from Panthers. Depth move. 3rd and 5th is the return.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 5, 2014 13:49:22 GMT -5
Return for Gaborik is Matt Frattin and 2 picks. That's not a significant return imo, pending what the picks are. Frattin is a declining prospect. he's 25. Prices for Vanek and Moulson have to be dropping, otherwise they're not moving. EDIT: Looking like a 2nd and a 3rd. Thin, especially when you factor CBJ is eating a lot of the remaining salary. A second and a third is the same price as last year for Clowe ... if that's the going rate on Vanek, and MB walks away cause its too expensive, I, I , I dont know what I'll do, maybe pull a marty and stamp my feet and stop watching |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:53:58 GMT -5
Return for Gaborik is Matt Frattin and 2 picks. That's not a significant return imo, pending what the picks are. Frattin is a declining prospect. he's 25. Prices for Vanek and Moulson have to be dropping, otherwise they're not moving. EDIT: Looking like a 2nd and a 3rd. Thin, especially when you factor CBJ is eating a lot of the remaining salary. A second and a third is the same price as last year for Clowe ... if that's the going rate on Vanek, and MB walks away cause its too expensive, I, I , I dont know what I'll do, maybe pull a marty and stamp my feet and stop watching We know what the players that have moved got for value. That value should impact return on Moulson and Vanek. I understand why both teams are holding out trying to get a lot. Islanders want to recoup the investment they made in acquiring Vanek, but they have to bite the bullet soon. there are a bunch of teams interested, but if the asking price isn't dropping ... |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 13:54:32 GMT -5
Tuomo Ruutu is headed to NJD. Loktionov goes other way.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 5, 2014 14:13:57 GMT -5
Yup. then you look at Tampa, where Yzerman took over at about the same time as Bergevin. They have a coach who seems to know what he's doing. They got an above average goaltender for a guy having a hot year who has now been put on waivers by his other team, and they've traded a declining, 38 year old well known asset; for 2 months from a heart and soul player who isn't the best scorer, a first rounder in 2015 which is being touted as a deep draft and a 2nd rounder this year. Somehow, they keep getting better. We keep wallowing despite having some decent players. The flip side of that is looking at the deal from the perspective of who got the best player. St Louis is still more than a ppg player. He's still on a favorable contract. He still plans to play beyond this contract. Picks are no guarantee, and if Callahan did decide to sign an extension the Rangers get a first. Bishop was a steal for sure, but the Lightning are not better from this trade today. No, the Rangers win this hands down short term. The key is that first rounder in 2015 and how the Rangers will do points wise next year. With luck (and Yzerman seems to have some of that), it turns into a top 5 pick of some kind, St. Louis retires in 2 years and then it looks much better for Tampa. |
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Post by madhabber on Mar 5, 2014 14:23:24 GMT -5
St Louis stamps his feet and cries, gives one team name as the only team he'll accept a trade to. Yzerman gets useful assets out of it. AMAZING deal for Tampa. Sounds an awful lot like the Roy trade to me. Was that an amazing deal or what. Well it was for Colorado. |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 14:23:32 GMT -5
Tim Thomas headed to Dallas. Perfect fit for the redneck.  Dan Ellis going the other way. |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 14:24:11 GMT -5
Edmonton trades Schultz to CBJ per Dreger.
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Post by jkr on Mar 5, 2014 14:29:20 GMT -5
Edmonton trades Schultz to CBJ per Dreger. Justin Schultz? The can't miss guy all the experts were raving about a couple of seasons ago? |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 14:30:09 GMT -5
Edmonton trades Schultz to CBJ per Dreger. Justin Schultz? The can't miss guy all the experts were raving about a couple of seasons ago? Nick Schultz, acquired from the Wild for Tom Gilbert. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 5, 2014 14:32:27 GMT -5
Justin Schultz? The can't miss guy all the experts were raving about a couple of seasons ago? Nick Schultz, acquired from the Wild for Tom Gilbert. Sorry, just saw that on McKenzie's twitter. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 5, 2014 14:35:23 GMT -5
Tim Thomas headed to Dallas. Perfect fit for the redneck. They were talking on TSN690 how he could go to the Caps... What a laugh, Tim Thomas in Washington. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 5, 2014 14:37:20 GMT -5
Habs ain't doing nothing... what a waste of time. MT gets to keep all of his pets, Bourque, DD, Gio, Murray, Gorges.
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Post by jkr on Mar 5, 2014 14:40:09 GMT -5
Habs ain't doing nothing... what a waste of time. MT gets to keep all of his pets, Bourque, DD, Gio, Murray, Gorges. Same feeling here. If if they didn't make an acquisition, couldn't they have rid themselves of someone like Bourque? SOmeone check the lights in the Bell Centre. Are they even on? |
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Post by blny on Mar 5, 2014 14:44:36 GMT -5
Bourque isn't exactly easy to move. Everyone knows his short comings. If the only offer is the devil you don't know, or a worse one, sometimes it's best not to make that move ... if it's there to begin with.
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