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Post by jkr on Feb 19, 2015 20:51:10 GMT -5
Everyone here in Toronto is on the "let's rebuild" bandwagon. It is the " IN " thing these days. In a way, it is giving those poor Leafs fan some sort of hope. Although it is probably the right thing to do, my guess is that the "re-build honeymoon" won't last very long.... We all know a full rebuilt can take a long time (especially here where the prospects are pretty rare)and it has no guarantee of success. The pressure to win NOW will eventually come back sometimes next season or the following and people's head will roll etc..... WHY oh WHY would Mike Babcock even consider coming into this zoo is beyond me. Agree on Babcock. He's got a top team & a 1st class organization. He's got a lot of time in there and won a Cup. I'm sure the Wings will make him the highest paid coach in NHL history. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 21, 2015 20:08:16 GMT -5
Leafs open scoring with a shortie but give up 2 PP goals. The last was terrible with a guy named Granberg tossing the puck right into the slot for Schiefle (sp?).
After blowing an OT power play the Leafs win in OT. 4-3
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Post by jkr on Feb 22, 2015 11:34:50 GMT -5
Everyone here in Toronto is on the "let's rebuild" bandwagon. It is the " IN " thing these days. In a way, it is giving those poor Leafs fan some sort of hope. Although it is probably the right thing to do, my guess is that the "re-build honeymoon" won't last very long.... We all know a full rebuilt can take a long time (especially here where the prospects are pretty rare)and it has no guarantee of success. The pressure to win NOW will eventually come back sometimes next season or the following and people's head will roll etc..... WHY oh WHY would Mike Babcock even consider coming into this zoo is beyond me. Agree on Babcock. He's got a top team & a 1st class organization. He's got a lot of time in there and won a Cup. I'm sure the Wings will make him the highest paid coach in NHL history. Were talking about this again on Sportsnet with Cox & Freiedman last night. Cox made a comment that this issue was not front & centre in Detroit & this was the way Holland wants it. Also mentioned that in Edmonton Todd Nelson is still the interim coach so that introduces another team into the Babcock sweepstakes (if , indeed thare are any). |
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Post by blny on Feb 22, 2015 12:26:52 GMT -5
Agree on Babcock. He's got a top team & a 1st class organization. He's got a lot of time in there and won a Cup. I'm sure the Wings will make him the highest paid coach in NHL history. Were talking about this again on Sportsnet with Cox & Freiedman last night. Cox made a comment that this issue was not front & centre in Detroit & this was the way Holland wants it. Also mentioned that in Edmonton Todd Nelson is still the interim coach so that introduces another team into the Babcock sweepstakes (if , indeed thare are any). If Edmonton tops the list of places players don't want to play, why would it differ for coaches? |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 2, 2015 15:53:08 GMT -5
Almost time for the 4th Annual open letter to Leafs' fans:  |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 2, 2015 16:08:17 GMT -5
Blah, blah, blah.
I find it hard to even pick on them now. And then I remember they still love Don Cherry and I get over my compassion.
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 2, 2015 16:41:54 GMT -5
Blah, blah, blah. I find it hard to even pick on them now. And then I remember they still love Don Cherry and I get over my compassion. Funny you should say that. It was the pathetic Cherry apologetics on Saturday night that prompted me to post this letter. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 3, 2015 16:10:12 GMT -5
Kessel's Fed Up With Treatment of Phaneuf (And of Himself, No Doubt)Direct SHOT across management's bow. SUNRISE, Fla. – Phil Kessel has had enough.
The Maple Leafs highest-paid player and leading scorer lambasted the Toronto media for treatment of captain Dion Phaneuf he deemed "embarrassing". The 26-year-old broached the subject unprompted on Tuesday morning and attacked with passion something that was clearly bubbling under the surface for some time. The explosion came just a day after Phaneuf became the subject of intense trade speculation.
It wasn't any one thing, Kessel said with fury, just years of mistreatment.
"Is it his fault we're losing? No. Did he build this team? No. It's not Dion Phaneuf," said Kessel with as much intensity and anger as he's shown in nearly six seasons as a Leaf. "The stuff he takes, the crap he takes, the things people say, I'm just tired of it here. I think he's owed some apologies by some people. It's disgusting the way people treat him."
Kessel, who absorbs an undue share of blame himself for the Leafs failures in recent seasons, believes Phaneuf has been unfairly painted with that same brush, the scapegoat too often for issues that go beyond the ice.
"He's our best defenceman and you guys act like he's not trying out there and this and that," Kessel said. "It's embarrassing. And I'm embarrassed for some people and things they said about him."
He isn't entirely wrong. Phaneuf remains a highly capable defender, just one who's asked to do far too much in Toronto, mostly due to failings in management over the years since he was first acquired from Calgary. Blame, however, tends to ensconce the best and highest-paid players of any failing team in any big market and that's what's happened with Phaneuf.
The Leafs have made the playoffs just once since Kessel and Phaneuf joined the Leafs.
"I've had it," Kessel continued in a rant that lingered three minutes or so. "I think this city is a great hockey city and I love playing here, but some of the things that happen and Dion getting abused like he does and things that are said about him...he's our best defenceman. Watch him play. He plays hard every game for us. I'm just tired of him taking it."
This was a missive Kessel clearly intended to deliver. Asked to answer a question or two just outside the team's dressing room by TSN.ca, Kessel instead said he'd speak to all the assembled media inside the room.
Phaneuf, nearly traded on deadline day, was unusually withdrawn at the team's morning skate in Sunrise. Normally vocal, energetic and loud enough for all to hear, the 29-year-old was subdued in a half-hour skate and declined to speak with media shortly thereafter – a rarity for Toronto's captain.
He said his fatigue with the treatment had nothing to do with his own situation, but rather he felt as a teammate, that Phaneuf was owed some backing for the "abuse" he took.
"For him, I think being the captain here he takes a lot of it," Kessel said. "It's enough. I'm sick of it and I don't think it should go on anymore."
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Post by 24in93 on Mar 3, 2015 18:05:02 GMT -5
I love all of this.
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Post by Disp on Mar 3, 2015 18:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by Polarice on Mar 3, 2015 18:52:03 GMT -5
The last couple of days have been the best ever!!
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 3, 2015 20:27:53 GMT -5
"In spite of TSN's protocols to prevent unfounded and inappropriate tweets from making it to air, a false, and inappropriate tweet was allowed to run," TSN said in the statement. "There was no basis for the false allegation made in this tweet. TSN unreservedly apologizes to Joffrey Lupul, Dion Phaneuf and Elisha Cuthbert and regrets any embarrassment this unfortunate incident has caused to them."
Leafs players were reportedly angry about the tweet.
Hockey commentator Bob McKenzie, one of TSN's most high-profile personalities, also echoed the network's statement on the air.
The apology was repeated again during the network's pre-game coverage of the Maple Leafs' game at Florida.
Earlier Tuesday, lawyer Peter A. Gall, who is representing Phaneuf, Cuthbert and Lupul, sent a letter to TSN demanding that the network "issue a formal apology and pay a significant amount of damages to each of our clients for broadcasting a false and defamatory tweet during their trade deadline show."
TSN did not reference the demand for damages in its statement.I wonder how much money in damages they're seeking. Are these thick-walleted people thin-skinned….or do they have a point? What's next? Posts made on juvenile, unmoderated hockey boards? Some juicy stuff there. TSN Apologizes (Vancouver Sun)
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Post by franko on Mar 5, 2015 6:56:15 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Mar 5, 2015 7:32:55 GMT -5
"In spite of TSN's protocols to prevent unfounded and inappropriate tweets from making it to air, a false, and inappropriate tweet was allowed to run," TSN said in the statement. "There was no basis for the false allegation made in this tweet. TSN unreservedly apologizes to Joffrey Lupul, Dion Phaneuf and Elisha Cuthbert and regrets any embarrassment this unfortunate incident has caused to them."
Leafs players were reportedly angry about the tweet.
Hockey commentator Bob McKenzie, one of TSN's most high-profile personalities, also echoed the network's statement on the air.
The apology was repeated again during the network's pre-game coverage of the Maple Leafs' game at Florida.
Earlier Tuesday, lawyer Peter A. Gall, who is representing Phaneuf, Cuthbert and Lupul, sent a letter to TSN demanding that the network "issue a formal apology and pay a significant amount of damages to each of our clients for broadcasting a false and defamatory tweet during their trade deadline show."
TSN did not reference the demand for damages in its statement.I wonder how much money in damages they're seeking. Are these thick-walleted people thin-skinned….or do they have a point? What's next? Posts made on juvenile, unmoderated hockey boards? Some juicy stuff there. TSN Apologizes (Vancouver Sun) This was TSN letting something slip by, they didn't write it. And wasn't Elisha Cuthbert the person involved in the infamous "sloppy seconds" comment by Sean Avery? Did she sue him then? |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 5, 2015 10:30:51 GMT -5
I dont mean to make light of the issue ... but I'm not sure she could sue Sean Avery. In a defamation case, truth can be used as a defense. Sean Avery dated her before Dion Phaneuf. (so did Mike Komisarek for that matter) I think any decent lawyer could argue pretty easily that Avery meant that he was with her first, and he feels she is sloppy. I mean what if he called her "ugly seconds" .. the descriptor is just his opinion.
That being said, I have no idea if she pursued legal action against him
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 5, 2015 11:42:26 GMT -5
I dont mean to make light of the issue ... but I'm not sure she could sue Sean Avery. In a defamation case, truth can be used as a defense. Sean Avery dated her before Dion Phaneuf. (so did Mike Komisarek for that matter) I think any decent lawyer could argue pretty easily that Avery meant that he was with her first, and he feels she is sloppy. I mean what if he called her "ugly seconds" .. the descriptor is just his opinion. That being said, I have no idea if she pursued legal action against him Doesn't sound like a decent lawyer to me. Ha! More like Saul Goodman. That's not what "sloppy seconds" means. And Avery knows it. |
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Post by blny on Mar 8, 2015 15:12:00 GMT -5
Splashed on TSN.ca's front page is a story that Horacek sent Kadri home after missing a meeting before practice. He's still available to play "if I want him", remarked Horacek.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 8, 2015 15:44:57 GMT -5
Hmm. Kadri might have forgotten to move his clock ahead, of course, but in reality two things stand out.
a) Kadri is high maintenance
b) Horachek knows exactly how to handle a situation badly.
I wouldn't want either of them on my team.
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Post by jkr on Mar 8, 2015 16:16:36 GMT -5
Hmm. Kadri might have forgotten to move his clock ahead, of course, but in reality two things stand out. a) Kadri is high maintenance b) Horachek knows exactly how to handle a situation badly. I wouldn't want either of them on my team. I would have sent Kadri home too. |
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Mar 8, 2015 19:13:24 GMT -5
I dont mean to make light of the issue ... but I'm not sure she could sue Sean Avery. In a defamation case, truth can be used as a defense. Sean Avery dated her before Dion Phaneuf. (so did Mike Komisarek for that matter) I think any decent lawyer could argue pretty easily that Avery meant that he was with her first, and he feels she is sloppy. I mean what if he called her "ugly seconds" .. the descriptor is just his opinion. That being said, I have no idea if she pursued legal action against him This just proves that Elisha Cuthbert may be the only person with a worse ability to pick hockey talent outside of Craig Button. Any chance she replaces Nonis as GM next year? |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 8, 2015 20:19:29 GMT -5
After last night's games it's official .... Toronto can not mathematically catch Montreal. If they win out they can only get 89 points
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 9, 2015 10:42:07 GMT -5
Splashed on TSN.ca's front page is a story that Horacek sent Kadri home after missing a meeting before practice. He's still available to play "if I want him", remarked Horacek. Just heard that Kadri will be a healthy scratch tonight against the Islanders. He says he overslept and apologized to the coach and his teammates….but he's still going to pay the price. Two ways to look at it. 1. If sleeping-in once is the only misstep Kadri's made, then you accept the apology and move on. Especially if the brass sees him as part of the solution going forward. 2. If sleeping-in is just another in a series of character/attitude issues, then you have to deal with it, whether he's part of the solution or not. Listening to Toronto sports radio this morning. The hosts have interviewed him before and the word that comes to mind is "cocky". I'm leaning towards #2. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 9, 2015 11:11:27 GMT -5
They couldn't let something like this go without a consequence ... it would send the wrong message to the team ... just another chapter in the national story of the plight of the Leafs ... I guess the TO media is doing the same thing to Babcock as they did to Burke a few years back ... they're trying their best to get him into Toronto ... Babcock may very well sign on with the Leafs, I really don't know (if I could foresee the future I'd be rich right now), but they're setting up the fan base for another huge letdown if he re-signs with Detroit ... getting tired of hearing about the Leafs and so are a few Leaf buddies of mine here at work ... they're a dominant story with the media these days ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Mar 9, 2015 11:35:14 GMT -5
It was the spring ahead for clocks Saturday night. If he doesn't use his cell phone for an alarm he very well could have forgot to set the clock he uses ahead. At this point in the season for the Leafs, it does seem a bit petty. This would have to be the last straw, the icing on the cake, for me to use it as a reason.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 9, 2015 11:38:59 GMT -5
Hmm. Kadri might have forgotten to move his clock ahead, of course, but in reality two things stand out. a) Kadri is high maintenance b) Horachek knows exactly how to handle a situation badly. I wouldn't want either of them on my team. I would have sent Kadri home too. I'd have had him kidnapped, then refuse to pay the ransom. |
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Post by franko on Mar 9, 2015 11:55:21 GMT -5
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Post by Gogie on Mar 9, 2015 11:57:37 GMT -5
It was the spring ahead for clocks Saturday night. If he doesn't use his cell phone for an alarm he very well could have forgot to set the clock he uses ahead. At this point in the season for the Leafs, it does seem a bit petty. This would have to be the last straw, the icing on the cake, for me to use it as a reason. Pretty lame excuse. Buy an alarm clock that automatically adjusts for daylight savings time - I have one and I don't make anywhere near the coin Kadri does. |
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Post by blny on Mar 9, 2015 12:25:00 GMT -5
It was the spring ahead for clocks Saturday night. If he doesn't use his cell phone for an alarm he very well could have forgot to set the clock he uses ahead. At this point in the season for the Leafs, it does seem a bit petty. This would have to be the last straw, the icing on the cake, for me to use it as a reason. Pretty lame excuse. Buy an alarm clock that automatically adjusts for daylight savings time - I have one and I don't make anywhere near the coin Kadri does. I use my cell phone. It has, on more than one occasion, played about 1-2 seconds of music and then just stopped. No reason for it. Just random. I've missed that blip a couple of times and woke up late as a result. Just saying that it can and does happen. We're all human after all. If it represents a pattern, or is just one item on a long list, for Kadri I get it. If it was a random event, I think it's an extreme reaction. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 9, 2015 12:51:07 GMT -5
Either Horachek isn't a good coach…or he's been "wrong place, wrong time" guy…..twice!
He spent the better part of 10 seasons as Trotz's assistant in Nashville.
Then a parallel move to Florida…only to be thrust into the head coach role when Kevin Dineen was let go early in 2013-14.
Horacheck was then fired by the Panthers at the end of last season….and right back into the assistant-to-head coach mess in Toronto.
I know Randy Cunneyworth also had the language issue to battle in Montreal….but he's not listed on hockeydb as having coached since that 15th place finish.
Horachek could suffer the same fate. Wrong place, wrong time.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 9, 2015 14:15:28 GMT -5
Amazing what makes news in Toronto now. So glad the "darkest days in Habs history" are behind us.
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