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Post by BadCompany on Feb 28, 2015 8:42:51 GMT -5
Apparently Montreal scouts have been at the last three Kings' games. Dudley there last night.
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 28, 2015 9:13:45 GMT -5
Apparently Montreal scouts have been at the last three Kings' games. Dudley there last night. Wonder who they looking at? |
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2015 9:43:24 GMT -5
Apparently Montreal scouts have been at the last three Kings' games. Dudley there last night. Wonder who they looking at? Not sure. Just had a look at Kings roster. There are a few UFAs like Stoll but the Kings are barely hanging on to 8th place & blew a 2-0 lead in the 3rd against the Ducks last night. They just traded for Sekera & I would think they need all hands on deck to make the playoffs. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2015 10:15:49 GMT -5
I'm cheering against the Kings, which should guarantee they make the playoffs. BTW, Sekac got an assist on the tying goal last night.
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Post by Anardil1 on Feb 28, 2015 10:50:06 GMT -5
Apparently Montreal scouts have been at the last three Kings' games. Dudley there last night. Wonder who they looking at? Here on TSN 690 they are speculating that they were watching Justin Williams. Now, I can`t think of another player that I dislike more than Williams. The carver of Saku`s eye, and responsible for one of Markov`s knee injuries. I would have a hard time seeing this guy wearing La Sainte-Flanelle. |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 28, 2015 10:55:47 GMT -5
Apparently Montreal scouts have been at the last three Kings' games. Dudley there last night. Wonder who they looking at? My guess would be Dwight King, Trevor Lewis and obscure 4th liner Andy Andreoff, with Gilbert, Eller and Bournival as potential bait. King for Gilbert: King has great size and strength, and a little bit of a scoring touch. 10 goals this year, 15 last year. Gilbert of course is a right-shooting defenseman, and a cursory look at the Kings 'roster would suggest the Kings need one of those. Yeah, they added Sekera to replace Voynov, but Sekera shoots left, and Voynov right. We suddenly find ourselves with a surplus of right-shooting defensemen, with Subban, Gonchar, Gilbert, Weaver and Paetryn. Lewis for Eller: Change of scenery trade for both players. Andreoff for Bournival: Why not? |
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2015 11:25:40 GMT -5
Big issue for the Kings is their cap situation. Any salary they take would have to be matched going the other way. Re Justin Williams, he's obviously a sore spot for a lot of Canadiens fans. He's a 33 year old UFA to be on a very reasonable cap hit of $3.05 million. He's a proven playoff performer, and on our roster would get more prime time scoring minutes. I can't recall how his legs are. Still got decent wheels? The Kings are very much a possession team. Can he fit in with an up tempo, transition style of play? I don't think there would be any issue within the room. Markov would be the only one there that was around when Williams inadvertently clipped Saku. I very much doubt he'd have lost any sleep.
There have been rumours, largely out of Edmonton, that Fucale is being offered up as bait in trade from Montreal (not with the Kings, just in general).
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 28, 2015 11:41:33 GMT -5
Big issue for the Kings is their cap situation. Any salary they take would have to be matched going the other way. Re Justin Williams, he's obviously a sore spot for a lot of Canadiens fans. He's a 33 year old UFA to be on a very reasonable cap hit of $3.05 million. He's a proven playoff performer, and on our roster would get more prime time scoring minutes. I can't recall how his legs are. Still got decent wheels? The Kings are very much a possession team. Can he fit in with an up tempo, transition style of play? I don't think there would be any issue within the room. Markov would be the only one there that was around when Williams inadvertently clipped Saku. I very much doubt he'd have lost any sleep. There have been rumours, largely out of Edmonton, that Fucale is being offered up as bait in trade from Montreal (not with the Kings, just in general). I can't see the Kings trading the reigning Conn Smyth winner just before the playoffs, no matter how bad his season has been. It's not like his play last year was an obscure one-off, he has a history of being a playoff stud. It would surprise me if they weren't banking on him again this year. As for the salary cap a lot of that can be mitigated with their trade partner retaining salary. For example, say the Habs were to retain $500,000 from either Eller or Gilbert that would certainly help, right? Going forward gets a little more confusing because of the uncertainty surrounding Voynov, but if it's only going to effect them next year then I can see them just ignoring it until they have to deal with it. I'm sure they gladly trade summer-time cap issues for another Cup, right? And who really wants to play the Kings in the playoffs? |
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2015 12:09:08 GMT -5
I'm cheering against the Kings, which should guarantee they make the playoffs. BTW, Sekac got an assist on the tying goal last night. It was a goal by Emerson Etem about halfway through the third period. About 14 minutes of ice time. Still doesn't look like he's playing with Getzlaf or Perry & it's now 2 months since he had a goal. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2015 12:10:33 GMT -5
Big issue for the Kings is their cap situation. Any salary they take would have to be matched going the other way. Re Justin Williams, he's obviously a sore spot for a lot of Canadiens fans. He's a 33 year old UFA to be on a very reasonable cap hit of $3.05 million. He's a proven playoff performer, and on our roster would get more prime time scoring minutes. I can't recall how his legs are. Still got decent wheels? The Kings are very much a possession team. Can he fit in with an up tempo, transition style of play? I don't think there would be any issue within the room. Markov would be the only one there that was around when Williams inadvertently clipped Saku. I very much doubt he'd have lost any sleep. There have been rumours, largely out of Edmonton, that Fucale is being offered up as bait in trade from Montreal (not with the Kings, just in general). Edmonton fans are probably wishing they were offering Fucale because they haven't had a consistent goalie for a long time. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2015 12:26:37 GMT -5
Williams is a question mark for the Kings because I believe his contract is up and he wants more money. I'd have trouble taking him on because I can't forgive him.
King is the type of player that gets you through the playoffs but Eller is too much to give up for him. Bournival maybe but I don't think the Kings go for that.
If Fucale keeps playing like he is, we'll be lucky to get the proverbial bagful of pucks.
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Post by Disp on Feb 28, 2015 15:54:08 GMT -5
I would trade Fucale for the most I could get for him right now. Watching him, I just don't get the sense that he's going to amount to much. Could be wrong, but he just seems a long way from nhl calibre.
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Post by 24andcounting on Feb 28, 2015 15:55:36 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2015 16:05:59 GMT -5
The Kings would have to retain salary on that one. Can't see Berg biting on Richards with that albatross of a contract.
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Post by franko on Feb 28, 2015 16:11:28 GMT -5
and as ever, my question is . . . why? are we a better team with him? is he our 2nd line scorer?
hmm . . . I know how I answer that one!
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Post by duster on Feb 28, 2015 19:31:19 GMT -5
Are there any Kings scouts attending Habs games lately? The Habs have a road trip out west. Dudley may not be necessarily scouting the Kings as trade partners.
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 28, 2015 22:13:44 GMT -5
HNIC mentioned tonight eastern contender in on Yandle....wonder if this could be Montreal?
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Post by Skilly on Feb 28, 2015 22:20:15 GMT -5
HNIC mentioned tonight eastern contender in on Yandle....wonder if this could be Montreal? According to Twitter, Montreal is inquiring about Petry, and Yandle |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 28, 2015 22:27:53 GMT -5
HNIC mentioned tonight eastern contender in on Yandle....wonder if this could be Montreal? According to Twitter, Montreal is inquiring about Petry, and Yandle Not sure on that one...be quite the shakeup for blueline to add both |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 1, 2015 11:08:15 GMT -5
I assume if they get one, they won't want the other
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Post by Douper on Mar 1, 2015 11:13:46 GMT -5
We need a bruiser more than we need Yandle. And if the price is a 1st and a prospect....look away.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 1, 2015 12:15:13 GMT -5
and as ever, my question is . . . why? are we a better team with him? is he our 2nd line scorer? hmm . . . I know how I answer that one! The one thing he has going for him, is that he's a winner. At least he was. I'm hesitant about trading for older players, and by older, I'm including 29-30 year olds, not because of their age, but unless they're terrific skaters, the game has sped up and tightened up at the same time, and these guys can't produce the way they once did. The leading scorer this year may end up with less than 90 points. Time to shrink the goalie equipment IMO. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 1, 2015 12:17:42 GMT -5
HNIC mentioned tonight eastern contender in on Yandle....wonder if this could be Montreal? That was a comment by Hrudey and he said that Yandle fitted Montreal's needs. I don't think he said they were kicking the tires on him, though they might be. I have yet to see Bergevin pick up someone who's been involved in a rumour, which makes the rumour mongerer's track records on Montreal really bad. |
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 1, 2015 13:36:02 GMT -5
Be glad when next 24 hours pass...so we can forget this trade stuff
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Post by franko on Mar 1, 2015 14:00:05 GMT -5
and as ever, my question is . . . why? are we a better team with him? is he our 2nd line scorer? hmm . . . I know how I answer that one! The one thing he has going for him, is that he's a winner. At least he was. I'm hesitant about trading for older players, and by older, I'm including 29-30 year olds, not because of their age, but unless they're terrific skaters, the game has sped up and tightened up at the same time, and these guys can't produce the way they once did. The leading scorer this year may end up with less than 90 points. I think Richards just can't keep up any more . . . he isn't going to play on the first 2 lines, and he's vastly too expensive for someone on the bottom 2. he also has the "party pedigree", so being in Montreal may not be a good thing. no disagreement there. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 1, 2015 14:47:37 GMT -5
Curtis Glencross to Washington as per TSN ... Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 1, 2015 15:35:03 GMT -5
I love all these potential Habs being scooped up. Not that I think Berg is seriously interested, but it shuts up the rumours.
Another story on Berg had his take on trade rumours. He said he's almost tempted to respond to them to explain just why they'll never work, but he doesn't of course. He feels very few of the rumours are realistic and should be discounted. (The discounting is my interpretation, he doesn't actually say that last part).
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 2, 2015 8:27:34 GMT -5
It's a real shame that Tinordi kind of faltered in his last stint up here, because man the prices for defensemen are outrageous. I can't help but think that Emelin and Gilbert would fetch 1st and 3rd round picks, which in the hands of Timmins could be real gold. If Tinordi could step in, and you gamble on no significant injuries you could improve your future AND still have a good shot at the Cup this year...
I always like to put names to picks, to sort of make it more "real". So...
Coburn for Tinordi, McCarron and Andrighetto (Gudas, 1st and 3rd).
Connolly for De La Rose and Fucale (two 2nds)
Yandle, Summers and a 4th for Scherbak, Beaulieu and De La Rose (1st, Moore and 2nd)
Glencross for Fucale and Andrighetto (2nd and 3rd)
I mean geez, the Blackhawks gave up a 2nd round pick (De La Rose, Fucale, Lekhonen) for a guy who hasn't even played a game this year!! (Timonen)
Crazy. And despite all that I think only the Rangers are a better team this morning. Yandle is a very good player, and will do very well there. They gave up a lot, but at least they got a very good player in return. Coburn? Connolly? Vermette? Those aren't guys that put you over the top, in my opinion.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 2, 2015 8:42:18 GMT -5
Be glad when next 24 hours pass...so we can forget this trade stuff I'd love for Bergevin to pick up a goal scorer, but that's easier said than done ... I'd be just as happy moving forward with the lineup we have now ... I think we have the team to do great things this year ... Cheers. |
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 2, 2015 9:02:37 GMT -5
It's a real shame that Tinordi kind of faltered in his last stint up here, because man the prices for defensemen are outrageous. I can't help but think that Emelin and Gilbert would fetch 1st and 3rd round picks, which in the hands of Timmins could be real gold. If Tinordi could step in, and you gamble on no significant injuries you could improve your future AND still have a good shot at the Cup this year... I always like to put names to picks, to sort of make it more "real". So... Coburn for Tinordi, McCarron and Andrighetto (Gudas, 1st and 3rd). Connolly for De La Rose and Fucale (two 2nds) Yandle, Summers and a 4th for Scherbak, Beaulieu and De La Rose (1st, Moore and 2nd) Glencross for Fucale and Andrighetto (2nd and 3rd) I mean geez, the Blackhawks gave up a 2nd round pick (De La Rose, Fucale, Lekhonen) for a guy who hasn't even played a game this year!! (Timonen) Crazy. And despite all that I think only the Rangers are a better team this morning. Yandle is a very good player, and will do very well there. They gave up a lot, but at least they got a very good player in return. Coburn? Connolly? Vermette? Those aren't guys that put you over the top, in my opinion. Thomas for Holzer be good trade. Noticed he was pretty good Saturday night, adds size, good defensively and low contract, lets us move a d-man or two for picks. While Thomas has been passed by more talented players here like, Hudon, Ghetto, DLR. Yet he will get a good opportunity in T.O. |
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