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[Gogie]

I've added a handful of d-men to the table.  Anyone else you'd like to see added?

Also, I've added Fenwick and PDO stats.  I admit to having little knowledge about advanced stats so feel free to comment on the meaning and usefulness of these stats in the table.

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	FF%	PDO	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	10	4	6	10	8	3	4	+14	25:55	47.2	113.4	27	21	1	12
Subban	10	2	4	6	8	2	5	-7	24:26	50.7	91.7	12	26	6	12
Josi	10	2	4	6	4	1	4	-6	24:47	45.3	96.8	8	16	1	4
Doughty	11	2	2	4	12	0	1	-4	27:53	56.1	90.7	17	22	0	12
Karlsson	10	3	6	9	4	1	2	6	26:23	52.9	102.9	6	25	9	12
Burns	11	4	7	11	4	1	3	1	24:05	58.9	96.0	10	27	4	21
Hedman	11	2	6	8	2	1	5	4	24:21	49.5	103.1	16	22	6	7

                                                    2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	10	9	0	1	19	.950	34	3.40	13	1.30	1.94	20.00%	90.00%
Nashville	10	3	5	2	8	.400	26	2.60	31	3.10	-0.85	30.00%	73.53%
League Avg	10	5	4	1	12	.556	29	2.90	29	2.90	0.00	18.58%	81.42%

                                                   2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.556	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66	81.34

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 3

[Tankdriver]

Wow, that's pretty impressive Gogie! I wouldn't mind Keith and Letang. They seem to be in the Norris conversation a lot.

[Gogie]

Added Letang and Keith.

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	FF%	PDO	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	10	4	6	10	8	3	4	+14	25:55	47.2	113.4	27	21	1	12
Subban	10	2	4	6	8	2	5	-7	24:26	50.7	91.7	12	26	6	12
Josi	10	2	4	6	4	1	4	-6	24:47	45.3	96.8	8	16	1	4
Doughty	11	2	2	4	12	0	1	-4	27:53	56.1	90.7	17	22	0	12
Karlsson	10	3	6	9	4	1	2	6	26:23	52.9	102.9	6	25	9	12
Burns	11	4	7	11	4	1	3	1	24:05	58.9	96.0	10	27	4	21
Hedman	11	2	6	8	2	1	5	4	24:21	49.5	103.1	16	22	6	7
Letang	6	1	5	6	4	1	3	0	25:48	53.2	88.7	14	9	2	6
Keith	11	0	9	9	2	0	2	7	25:06	51.0	97.0	3	11	3	9

                                                    2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	10	9	0	1	19	.950	34	3.40	13	1.30	1.94	20.00%	90.00%
Nashville	10	3	5	2	8	.400	26	2.60	31	3.10	-0.85	30.00%	73.53%
League Avg	10	5	4	1	12	.556	29	2.90	29	2.90	0.00	18.58%	81.42%

                                                   2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.556	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66	81.34

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 3

[Deleted]

Nov 4, 2016 8:41:35 GMT -5 Tankdriver said:

I know this is a Subban/Weber comparison and how right now it looks like Weber is the best player out of the two but comparing it versus the Norris winner:

Drew Doughty: 11GP, 2G, 2A, 4P, =/- -4, 12 PIM, Nashville still got a great player. Stats are just Stats. It doesn't help with the overall picture, and anyone can manipulate them to get the desired result.

How can stats be manipulated if one player is superior in 98% of the categories? Seriously, i'm curious, or do you mean Trump style made up stats?

[seventeen]

Short sample Anon. Check them out again in 3 months, in 1 year, in 3 years.

[Deleted]

Nov 5, 2016 1:18:17 GMT -5 seventeen said:

Short sample Anon. Check them out again in 3 months, in 1 year, in 3 years.

I'm not specifically talking about Subban, Weber or Gretzky for that matter. Just wonder how you can manipulate stats to make anyone look good? 

[Gogie]

Added team data for defensemen in list.

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	FF%	PDO	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	12	4	6	10	8	3	4	+15	25:55	47.0	111.6	29	24	1	15
Subban	11	2	4	6	8	2	5	-7	24:37	50.3	94.6	13	26	6	15
Josi	11	2	4	6	4	1	4	-8	24:41	46.5	96.0	8	19	2	5
Doughty	12	2	3	5	14	0	1	-1	27:30	54.9	97.6	17	22	0	12
Karlsson	11	3	7	10	4	1	3	6	26:37	52.8	102.6	7	30	10	15
Burns	12	4	7	11	4	1	3	-2	23:00	59.3	94.2	11	27	4	24
Hedman	12	3	7	10	6	1	5	6	24:17	50.2	104.4	16	22	7	9

                                                    2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	12	10	1	1	21	.875	39	3.25	27	2.25	+0.84	17.95%	80.00%
Nashville	11	3	5	3	9	.409	28	2.55	33	3.30	-0.79	28.57%	75.68%
Los Angeles	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.45	11.43%	77.27%
Ottawa	11	7	4	0	14	.636	28	2.55	28	2.55	-0.22	12.90%	82.35%
San Jose	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.29	19.51%	87.10%
Tampa Bay	12	7	4	1	15	.625	39	3.25	34	2.83	+0.60	26.53%	89.47%
League Avg	12	6	5	1	14	.555	32	2.67	32	2.67	+0.00	18.38%	81.62%

                                                   2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.556	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66	81.34

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 5

[Cranky]

Nov 5, 2016 18:05:34 GMT -5 Gogie said:

Added team data for defensemen in list.

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	FF%	PDO	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	12	4	6	10	8	3	4	+15	25:55	47.0	111.6	29	24	1	15
Subban	11	2	4	6	8	2	5	-7	24:37	50.3	94.6	13	26	6	15
Josi	11	2	4	6	4	1	4	-8	24:41	46.5	96.0	8	19	2	5
Doughty	12	2	3	5	14	0	1	-1	27:30	54.9	97.6	17	22	0	12
Karlsson	11	3	7	10	4	1	3	6	26:37	52.8	102.6	7	30	10	15
Burns	12	4	7	11	4	1	3	-2	23:00	59.3	94.2	11	27	4	24
Hedman	12	3	7	10	6	1	5	6	24:17	50.2	104.4	16	22	7	9

                                                    2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	12	10	1	1	21	.875	39	3.25	27	2.25	+0.84	17.95%	80.00%
Nashville	11	3	5	3	9	.409	28	2.55	33	3.30	-0.79	28.57%	75.68%
Los Angeles	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.45	11.43%	77.27%
Ottawa	11	7	4	0	14	.636	28	2.55	28	2.55	-0.22	12.90%	82.35%
San Jose	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.29	19.51%	87.10%
Tampa Bay	12	7	4	1	15	.625	39	3.25	34	2.83	+0.60	26.53%	89.47%
League Avg	12	6	5	1	14	.555	32	2.67	32	2.67	+0.00	18.38%	81.62%

                                                   2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.556	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66	81.34

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 5

I used my God powers, aka mod ability to look at your post. Holy smoke, did you do all that by hand? Or is there an app somewhere where you enter the numbers and it gives you the complete code?

[Tankdriver]

Hedman is having a solid year.

[Gogie]

Nov 7, 2016 14:43:50 GMT -5 Cranky said:

Nov 5, 2016 18:05:34 GMT -5 Gogie said:

Added team data for defensemen in list.

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	FF%	PDO	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	12	4	6	10	8	3	4	+15	25:55	47.0	111.6	29	24	1	15
Subban	11	2	4	6	8	2	5	-7	24:37	50.3	94.6	13	26	6	15
Josi	11	2	4	6	4	1	4	-8	24:41	46.5	96.0	8	19	2	5
Doughty	12	2	3	5	14	0	1	-1	27:30	54.9	97.6	17	22	0	12
Karlsson	11	3	7	10	4	1	3	6	26:37	52.8	102.6	7	30	10	15
Burns	12	4	7	11	4	1	3	-2	23:00	59.3	94.2	11	27	4	24
Hedman	12	3	7	10	6	1	5	6	24:17	50.2	104.4	16	22	7	9

                                                    2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	12	10	1	1	21	.875	39	3.25	27	2.25	+0.84	17.95%	80.00%
Nashville	11	3	5	3	9	.409	28	2.55	33	3.30	-0.79	28.57%	75.68%
Los Angeles	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.45	11.43%	77.27%
Ottawa	11	7	4	0	14	.636	28	2.55	28	2.55	-0.22	12.90%	82.35%
San Jose	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.29	19.51%	87.10%
Tampa Bay	12	7	4	1	15	.625	39	3.25	34	2.83	+0.60	26.53%	89.47%
League Avg	12	6	5	1	14	.555	32	2.67	32	2.67	+0.00	18.38%	81.62%

                                                   2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.556	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66	81.34

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 5

I used my God powers, aka mod ability to look at your post. Holy smoke, did you do all that by hand? Or is there an app somewhere where you enter the numbers and it gives you the complete code?

I'd like to take credit for an excessive amount of work but, alas, I'm an honest person.  It was actually quite easy to do.  There's a "table" button at the top of the page that lets you set up any size table.  The secret is to do the work in "preview" mode. I'm not sure how anyone could do the coding that shows when you select "BBCode".  Once the basic table is set up it's easy to add rows and columns (a little trial and error and I was able to figure that out).  As far as getting the data, it's a manual process but again it's pretty straight forward.  I use "Hockey Reference" (www.hockey-reference.com/).

There, now my secret's out.  No more "glory" for Gogie.

[Gogie]

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	FF%	PDO	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	12	4	6	10	8	3	4	+15	25:55	47.0	111.6	29	24	1	15
Subban	11	2	4	6	8	2	5	-7	24:37	50.3	94.6	13	26	6	15
Josi	11	2	4	6	4	1	4	-8	24:41	46.5	96.0	8	19	2	5
Doughty	12	2	3	5	14	0	1	-1	27:30	54.9	97.6	17	22	0	12
Karlsson	11	3	7	10	4	1	3	6	26:37	52.8	102.6	7	30	10	15
Burns	12	4	7	11	4	1	3	-2	23:00	59.3	94.2	11	27	4	24
Hedman	13	3	7	10	6	1	5	4	24:18	51.6	101.9	16	23	7	9

                                                    2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	12	10	1	1	21	.875	39	3.25	27	2.25	+0.84	17.95%	80.00%
Nashville	11	3	5	3	9	.409	28	2.55	33	3.30	-0.79	28.57%	75.68%
Los Angeles	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.45	11.43%	77.27%
Ottawa	11	7	4	0	14	.636	28	2.55	28	2.55	-0.22	12.90%	82.35%
San Jose	12	6	6	0	12	.500	27	2.25	32	2.67	-0.29	19.51%	87.10%
Tampa Bay	13	7	5	1	15	.577	40	3.08	37	2.85	+0.50	25.00%	87.80%
League Avg	12	6	5	1	13	.554	34	2.83	34	2.83	+0.00	18.44%	81.56%

                                                   2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.555	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66	81.34

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 7

[seventeen]

The PDO stat is interesting. It's more of a team stat, of course, combining the save percentage and the shooting percentage of a team. Average is 100 but if you have a team of good shooters or a team with a great goalie, that number will be higher. Habs have great goaltending, so 'normal' for them should be about 101.5. I don't think they have any better shooters than anyone else. So, it appears that the Habs are either going to have a higher than usual PDO this year, or they've already used up some of their inventory of 'luck' and things will even out as the year goes along. Nashville has worse than average goaltending, so their 'normal' PDO should be around 98.5. They appear to be in an unlucky streak, or this is going to be one of those years for them.

If one was going to make predeiction based on that stat alone, I'd say Weber's numbers will get worse, Subban's and Josi's will get better; Doughty's will get a little better, Karlsson's a bit worse and Hedman stay on course (lots of good shooter on Tampa and reasonable goaltending).

[Gogie]

Nov 8, 2016 11:01:15 GMT -5 seventeen said:

The PDO stat is interesting. It's more of a team stat, of course, combining the save percentage and the shooting percentage of a team. Average is 100 but if you have a team of good shooters or a team with a great goalie, that number will be higher. Habs have great goaltending, so 'normal' for them should be about 101.5. I don't think they have any better shooters than anyone else. So, it appears that the Habs are either going to have a higher than usual PDO this year, or they've already used up some of their inventory of 'luck' and things will even out as the year goes along. Nashville has worse than average goaltending, so their 'normal' PDO should be around 98.5. They appear to be in an unlucky streak, or this is going to be one of those years for them.

If one was going to make predeiction based on that stat alone, I'd say Weber's numbers will get worse, Subban's and Josi's will get better; Doughty's will get a little better, Karlsson's a bit worse and Hedman stay on course (lots of good shooter on Tampa and reasonable goaltending).

As I've said before, I'm far from a stats geek but just as you pointed out about PDO being more of a team stat, aren't most advanced stats team-oriented? Don't Corsi and Fenwick, for example, place a high degree of reliance on all the players on the ice such that one player's stats are significantly influenced by the other players on the ice with him?

[seventeen]

A bit lik +/- that way, but you can go deeper by working out Corsi and Fenwick while with different players so there some indication of who's driving play and who's being carried by it. What I like least about Corsi is the lack of a quality component to it.

[Gogie]

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 18

(ADDED TOP TEAM IN EACH DIVISION TO TEAM STATS)

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV	FF%	PDO
Weber	18	7	6	13	10	6	7	+15	25:26	45	37	2	22	48.9	107.5
Markov	18	2	12	14	6	0	5	+3	21:19	10	16	9	15	52.8	100.8
Subban	16	3	7	10	16	2	5	-5	24:24	15	34	10	22	52.9	97.4
Josi	16	2	6	8	4	1	5	-4	24:52	10	28	3	8	47.8	99.1
Doughty	18	2	4	6	14	0	1	+3	27:11	32	34	2	20	52.6	100.8
Karlsson	17	3	11	14	8	1	3	+1	27:09	12	46	15	24	49.5	100.2
Burns	17	6	8	14	4	1	3	+1	23:42	18	35	7	29	55.0	98.3
Hedman	18	3	10	13	12	1	5	+5	24:22	21	27	8	14	50.6	102.2

                                                       2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	18	13	3	2	28	.778	58	3.22	40	2.22	+0.88	23.08	82.86
Nashville	16	7	6	3	17	.531	46	2.88	42	2.63	-0.02	22.03	81.48
Los Angeles	18	8	9	1	17	.472	43	2.39	46	2.56	-0.21	10.53	80.00
Ottawa	17	10	6	1	21	.618	36	2.12	42	2.47	-0.45	9.80	88.46
San Jose	17	9	8	0	18	.529	39	2.29	39	2.29	+0.17	16.98	88.10
Tampa Bay	18	11	6	1	23	.639	57	3.17	45	2.50	+0.69	25.71	83.93
NY Rangers	18	13	5	0	26	.722	74	4.11	42	2.33	+1.67	21.21	85.71
Chicago	18	12	4	2	26	.722	56	3.11	44	2.44	+0.50	19.40	70.18
Anaheim	18	9	6	3	21	.583	48	2.67	43	2.39	+0.22	21.67	86.15
League Avg	17	9	7	2	19	.556	47	2.76	47	2.76	+0.00	17.65	82.35

                                                      2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.555	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66%	81.34%

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

[Gogie]

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 19

(ADDED TOP TEAM IN EACH DIVISION TO TEAM STATS)

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV	FF%	PDO
Weber	19	7	8	15	10	6	8	+16	25:30	48	45	2	26	49.1	107.6
Markov	19	2	12	14	6	0	5	+3	21:29	12	18	9	18	53.0	100.5
Subban	17	3	8	11	16	2	6	-8	24:27	18	35	10	23	52.6	95.7
Josi	17	2	6	8	4	1	5	-4	24:54	11	30	3	8	47.6	99.2
Doughty	19	2	5	7	14	0	1	+3	27:07	33	35	2	20	52.2	100.8
Karlsson	18	3	11	14	8	1	3	+2	27:12	14	47	15	26	50.2	100.4
Burns	18	6	8	14	4	1	3	0	23:51	19	35	7	29	55.2	97.9
Hedman	19	3	10	13	12	1	5	+6	24:18	21	28	10	14	49.8	102.9

                                                       2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	19	14	3	2	30	.789	60	3.16	41	2.16	+0.91	22.81	82.43
Nashville	17	7	7	3	17	.500	47	2.76	45	2.65	-0.16	22.58	82.46
Los Angeles	19	9	9	1	19	.500	47	2.47	48	2.53	-0.11	10.34	80.65
Ottawa	18	10	7	1	21	.583	37	2.06	46	2.56	-0.58	9.43	88.46
San Jose	18	9	8	1	19	.528	41	2.28	42	2.33	+0.08	16.07	86.96
Tampa Bay	19	12	6	1	25	.658	60	3.16	45	2.37	+0.81	26.39	85.25
NY Rangers	18	13	5	0	26	.722	74	4.11	42	2.33	+1.67	21.21	85.71
Chicago	19	13	4	2	28	.737	60	3.16	47	2.47	+0.45	18.57	69.49
Anaheim	18	9	6	3	21	.583	48	2.67	43	2.39	+0.22	21.67	86.15
League Avg	18	9	7	2	20	.556	49	2.72	49	2.72	+0.00	17.65	82.35

                                                      2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.555	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66%	81.34%

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

[Skilly]

Watching the HBO special PK Subban Skate Past the Noise: The Offseason ... I knew PK's branding was important to him, I may have been one of the first to point it out, but I never knew it was SO important to him. He speaks in depth of how much thought he puts into his branding, and how it's important to him, like Kobi's brand. He even speaks with Jeanie Buss (owner of the Lakers), to get advice on how to balance team priority over personal branding.

It's pretty obvious why Bergevin traded him. Even though Subban says a Montreal Canadien always puts the crest ahead of the name on the back, he is talking about how important it is to move your brand forward this offseason, hours before the last game of the season (as the show leads you to believe).

[PTH]

Nov 20, 2016 20:41:56 GMT -5 Skilly said:

Watching the HBO special PK Subban Skate Past the Noise: The Offseason ... I knew PK's branding was important to him, I may have been one of the first to point it out, but I never knew it was SO important to him. He speaks in depth of how much thought he puts into his branding, and how it's important to him, like Kobi's brand. He even speaks with Jeanie Buss (owner of the Lakers), to get advice on how to balance team priority over personal branding.

It's pretty obvious why Bergevin traded him. Even though Subban says a Montreal Canadien always puts the crest ahead of the name on the back, he is talking about how important it is to move your brand forward this offseason, hours before the last game of the season (as the show leads you to believe).

Meanwhile, last night the CBC's 2nd game included highlights of Nashville, including PK skimming along the opposing blueline, going deep with the puck in a 1-1 game mid-way through the 3d period, losing the puck, leading to an odd-man rush the other way, and the winning goal against Nashville is squarely on him.

[Willie Dog]

Nov 20, 2016 20:41:56 GMT -5 Skilly said:

Watching the HBO special PK Subban Skate Past the Noise: The Offseason ... I knew PK's branding was important to him, I may have been one of the first to point it out, but I never knew it was SO important to him. He speaks in depth of how much thought he puts into his branding, and how it's important to him, like Kobi's brand. He even speaks with Jeanie Buss (owner of the Lakers), to get advice on how to balance team priority over personal branding.

It's pretty obvious why Bergevin traded him. Even though Subban says a Montreal Canadien always puts the crest ahead of the name on the back, he is talking about how important it is to move your brand forward this offseason, hours before the last game of the season (as the show leads you to believe).

I see nothing wrong with wanting something beyond hockey... there have been enough professional athletes who have ended up with nothing after the end of their career.

It's funny that during the show PK says about Nashville 'they want me to be me... it's music to my ears'... speaks volumes.

[Willie Dog]

Nov 20, 2016 20:47:23 GMT -5 PTH said:

Nov 20, 2016 20:41:56 GMT -5 Skilly said:

Watching the HBO special PK Subban Skate Past the Noise: The Offseason ... I knew PK's branding was important to him, I may have been one of the first to point it out, but I never knew it was SO important to him. He speaks in depth of how much thought he puts into his branding, and how it's important to him, like Kobi's brand. He even speaks with Jeanie Buss (owner of the Lakers), to get advice on how to balance team priority over personal branding.

It's pretty obvious why Bergevin traded him. Even though Subban says a Montreal Canadien always puts the crest ahead of the name on the back, he is talking about how important it is to move your brand forward this offseason, hours before the last game of the season (as the show leads you to believe).

Meanwhile, last night the CBC's 2nd game included highlights of Nashville, including PK skimming along the opposing blueline, going deep with the puck in a 1-1 game mid-way through the 3d period, losing the puck, leading to an odd-man rush the other way, and the winning goal against Nashville is squarely on him.

Wow I guess a defenseman shouldn't go deep in the offensive zone.... where were his teammates... isn't a player supposed to cover for a defenseman when he carries the puck into the offensive zone?

[PTH]

My point was that he went for a very high-risk play in a crucial game situation, and got burned.

[Willie Dog]

Nov 20, 2016 22:22:29 GMT -5 PTH said:

My point was that he went for a very high-risk play in a crucial game situation, and got burned.

Guys get burned all the time... it happens... if it didn't all games would end zero zero.... it's like when it's him it get magnified... that's what bothers me about his time in Montreal... he got blamed and others got free passes.

[CentreHice]

Saw the highlight....a 2-on-1 develops with Upshall and Brodziak. #10 for Nashville, Colton Sissons, is in pursuit of Brodziak. Upshall has the puck.

Instead of skating hard to cover Brodziak, Sissons stops skating AT THE BLUE LINE and watches Upshall shoot.

The rebound goes to Brodziak who, uncovered, puts it in the empty net.

In that situation, you leave the puck carrier for the d-man and the goalie....and you hustle to cover the other man, especially when you're only one step behind at the blue-line.

When P.K. is involved in a play like that, no matter what follows, the GA is always his fault. To me, that goal is on Sissons.

And how did Laviolette respond? Did he call out Subban and blame it on his individualism?

Predators coach Peter Laviolette believed a cross-checking penalty should have been called against the Blues, which caused Subban to turn the puck over.

I have no issue with PK's self-branding (and the personality that goes along with it) being the major knock against him...but if you want to see a d-man's errors leading directly to goals-against in CRUCIAL game situations, pull up San Jose vs. Nashville, Round 3 Game 6, 2016.

I'm not knocking Weber...simply providing counter-point to argue that there's a double-standard when it comes to Subban. I can only imagine the ridicule/contempt P.K. would receive should he ever have a game like that one.

[Gogie]

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF NOVEMBER 27

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV	FF%	PDO
Weber	22	8	10	18	12	7	10	+18	25:48	53	50	2	32	48.9	107.7
Markov	22	2	15	17	6	0	7	+5	22:05	15	19	10	21	53.0	101.5
Subban	21	5	9	14	18	3	7	-9	24:30	20	36	13	26	52.7	96.2
Josi	21	2	10	12	4	1	7	-4	24:48	15	33	6	13	49.2	99.3
Doughty	22	3	8	11	16	0	2	+5	27:02	35	42	2	25	52.8	101.3
Karlsson	22	4	13	17	10	1	4	+6	27:06	19	67	16	34	48.9	102.3
Burns	22	8	12	20	4	1	5	+3	23:57	21	40	11	43	54.0	99.9
Hedman	23	5	12	17	14	2	6	+5	24:36	27	35	15	20	50.6	102.3

                                                       2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	22	16	4	2	34	.773	67	3.05	47	2.14	+0.81	22.06	83.13
Nashville	21	10	8	3	23	.548	60	2.86	52	2.48	+0.17	23.75	85.07
Los Angeles	22	12	9	1	25	.568	56	2.55	53	2.41	+0.11	12.12	82.43
Ottawa	22	14	7	1	29	.659	48	2.19	51	2.32	-0.02	11.29	86.36
San Jose	22	12	9	1	25	.568	52	2.36	48	2.18	+0.24	17.39	84.91
Tampa Bay	23	13	9	1	27	.587	69	3.00	59	2.57	+0.45	23.53	83.33
NY Rangers	23	15	7	1	31	.674	85	3.70	56	2.43	+1.18	20.29	85.00
Chicago	23	14	6	3	31	.674	65	2.83	58	2.52	+0.18	17.72	70.83
Edmonton	23	12	9	2	26	.565	67	2.91	58	2.52	+0.20	17.39	87.69
League Avg	22	11	8	3	24	.557	58	2.64	58	2.64	+0.00	17.87	82.13

                                                      2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.555	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66%	81.34%

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways

[The Habitual Fan]

Just curious if anyone has seen the Subban documentary on HBO and had any comments? I felt it was more of a PK infomercial to sell his brand. I know most of it was done before the trade and not sure what I was expecting but felt disappointed by it

[Willie Dog]

Nice toe drag by PK

www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-subban-toe-drags-snipes-beauty/

[Gogie]

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF DECEMBER 4

Player	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV	FF%	PDO
Weber	25	8	10	18	14	7	10	+17	25:58	59	53	3	33	49.8	106.0
Markov	25	2	16	18	8	0	7	+4	22:04	19	23	11	25	51.2	101.3
Subban	24	6	10	16	18	3	7	-7	24:54	25	37	14	29	53.3	97.3
Josi	24	3	12	15	4	1	7	-2	25:06	17	35	7	14	51.4	99.6
Doughty	25	4	9	13	20	1	4	+4	27:03	42	45	2	27	53.2	100.3
Karlsson	25	5	15	20	12	1	5	+5	27:16	21	73	17	37	48.6	101.5
Burns	25	10	12	22	4	3	7	+3	24:03	28	45	13	52	54.5	99.8
Hedman	27	5	14	19	14	2	8	+3	24:46	38	42	16	24	49.1	101.7

                                                       2016-2017 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	25	17	6	2	36	.720	73	2.92	55	2.20	+0.71	22.50	80.85
Nashville	24	11	9	4	26	.542	71	2.96	64	2.67	+0.04	22.09	82.89
Los Angeles	25	13	10	2	28	.560	65	2.60	64	2.60	+0.00	14.10	80.23
Ottawa	25	15	8	2	32	.640	56	2.24	59	2.36	-0.02	13.33	84.81
San Jose	25	15	9	1	31	.620	60	2.40	51	2.04	+0.43	18.67	83.61
Tampa Bay	27	14	11	2	30	.556	75	2.78	71	2.63	+0.26	22.92	82.22
NY Rangers	26	17	8	1	35	.673	95	3.65	64	2.46	+1.13	22.67	85.07
Chicago	27	16	8	3	35	.648	72	2.67	67	2.48	+0.12	15.73	70.73
Edmonton	27	14	10	3	31	.574	79	2.93	69	2.56	+0.22	19.05	85.71
League Avg	25	13	9	3	28	.563	67	2.68	67	2.68	+0.00	17.88	82.12

                                                      2015-2016 Season

Team	GP	W	L	OTL	PTS	PTS%	GF	GFPG	GA	GAPG	SRS*	PP%	PK%
Montreal	82	38	38	6	82	.500	216	2.63	233	2.84	-0.18	16.22%	81.89%
Nashville	82	41	27	14	96	.585	224	2.73	213	2.60	0.17	19.69%	81.22%
League Avg	82	41	32	9	91	.555	222	2.71	222	2.71	0.00	18.66%	81.34%

*SRS - Simple Rating System: a team rating that takes into account avg goal differential and strength
  of schedule.  Expressed in goals above/below avg.  For reference, Washington's SRS for 2015-2016
  was 0.70 (they led the league with 120 pts).  Dallas (with 109 pts) had an SRS of 0.45.

Legend for Player Stats:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
PTS - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
FF% - Fenwick For % at Even Strength
PDO - PDO in All Situations (Shooting % + Save %):  PDO is the sum of a team's 5v5 shooting percentage (the number of goals they score divided by the number of shots on goal they generate) and their 5v5 save percentage (the number of shots their goalies stop divided by the number of shots on goal they allow)
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways

[Willie Dog]

PK scored with a cannon of a shot against the Avalanche. Laviolette had PK and Josi on together for that goal.

[jkr]

Dec 6, 2016 21:48:47 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

PK scored with a cannon of a shot against the Avalanche. Laviolette had PK and Josi on together for that goal.

That was his 7th goal Passed last year's total.

[seventeen]

Last year was an anomaly for Subban as well as others. Unfortunately it gave critics the opportunity to pounce on him. As he gets more and more used to Nashville's system and players his numbers will continue to get better. Laviolette is already using him 28 minutes a game, up from the beginning of the season. His +/- isn't great, but the goaltending has been up and down and then there were the 2 empty net goals against vs Winnipeg. Recent reports out of Nashville are that he's playing well. He's with Josi now, but that hasn't been consistent either. Nashville looks like a work in progress, but if they keep in a playoff spot and Rinne gets hot, they could be a threat in the playoffs. With them, it's all about goaltending. Johansen and that defence provide strength up the middle except for goal.