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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2005 18:58:06 GMT -5
OK. I've read through this entire thread, and determined that the typical HabsRus poster knows more about hockey, talent, chemistry, finance, winning....than Bob Gainey, Trevor Timmons, and the rest of the Habs' riff-raff management.  On the Internet, everyone's an expert!  |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Aug 1, 2005 19:01:27 GMT -5
OK. I've read through this entire thread, and determined that the typical HabsRus poster knows more about hockey, talent, chemistry, finance, winning....than Bob Gainey, Trevor Timmons, and the rest of the Habs' riff-raff management. On the Internet, everyone's an expert! It's a dog's life. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2005 19:07:14 GMT -5
On the Internet, everyone's an expert! It's a dog's life. Want a free Ph. D? Dr. Beaux-Eaux has a nice ring to it.  |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Aug 1, 2005 19:28:01 GMT -5
Want a free Ph. D? Dr. Beaux-Eaux has a nice ring to it. Woof, er, nope. I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row.
I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru.
Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets, I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.
I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer, I toured New Jersey with a traveling centrifugal-force demonstration team. I bat .400. My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles. Children trust me.
I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed several covert operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who has seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me.
I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and all my bills are paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago I discovered the meaning of life, but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prize-winning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis.
But I have not yet gone to college.- www.bluemoon.net/~watson/college.htm |
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Post by HabbaDasher on Aug 1, 2005 20:13:02 GMT -5
I am Canadien?
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Post by clear observer on Aug 2, 2005 7:28:47 GMT -5
OK. I've read through this entire thread, and determined that the typical HabsRus poster knows more about hockey, talent, chemistry, finance, winning....than Bob Gainey, Trevor Timmons, and the rest of the Habs' riff-raff management. On draft-day, we're all as qualified. Darts, anyone?  |
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Post by HabbaDasher on Aug 2, 2005 20:55:21 GMT -5
OK. I've read through this entire thread, and determined that the typical HabsRus poster knows more about hockey, talent, chemistry, finance, winning....than Bob Gainey, Trevor Timmons, and the rest of the Habs' riff-raff management. On draft-day, we're all as qualified. Darts, anyone? Which makes it damn hard to judge the results........for a few years yet.......... |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 2, 2005 22:04:21 GMT -5
OK. I've read through this entire thread, and determined that the typical HabsRus poster knows more about hockey, talent, chemistry, finance, winning....than Bob Gainey, Trevor Timmons, and the rest of the Habs' riff-raff management. On draft-day, we're all as qualified. Darts, anyone? Actually it is an apples-oranges-bananas situation. How do you value the future of a 17 year old top ranked goalie (the consensus amongst all scouts and major publications), and the next tier of forwards (behind Sid the Kid), and a bunch of very different defensive prospects? Gainey is right about the future value of a #1 goalie to a franchise. Timmins and Gainey are at least looking out five plus years and spend thousands of hours scouting hundreds of kids, we tend to look to some results yesterday and never move from our keyboards or TV screens. Apart from that, we are as equally qualified they are!! |
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Post by BadCompany on Aug 3, 2005 7:15:05 GMT -5
How do you value the future of a 17 year old top ranked goalie (the consensus amongst all scouts and major publications)... Not to nitpick, but that's not exactly true. * Bob Mackenzie had him 7th (and states that Price isn’t the unanimous #1 goalie choice). * Sports Forecaster had him 9th (and only the second best goalie available). * ISS had him 10th. * Redline had him 10th (and only the second best goalie, though their first was a stretch). * McKeens had him 15th (or 13th? I can’t remember, and he was only the second best goalie). He is a good talent, no doubt about it. A sure-fire first rounder, and top 10 guy in many eyes. But he was not regarded as the next Luongo, or even Lehtonen or Fleury. If he WAS as highly viewed as some are making him out to be now (best goalie in Junior Hockey in the last decade??), why wasn't he ranked second, right up there with that Rimouski kid? Fleury, Lehtonen, even Dipietro I think, we're all ranked up at the top of their draft classes, but Price was not. I hear all this talk about how great he suddenly is, and that crazy "you spin me right 'round baby" song starts going off in my head... |
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Post by legaspesien on Aug 11, 2005 17:17:06 GMT -5
Got this from another place
Canadiens take Price fifth
This story was published Sunday, July 31st, 2005
By Annie Fowler, Herald staff writer
There was no question that Carey Price would be a first-round pick in Saturday's National Hockey League draft.
But when the Montreal Canadiens called Price's name with the fifth pick overall, the Tri-City Americans goaltender was taken aback.
"I was pretty surprised but very happy that it happened," said Price by telephone from Ottawa, where the draft took place at the Westin Hotel. "The draft is about what people need. I think it will be a good fit, but I'll have to brush up on my French."
In a move that surprised no one, the Pittsburgh Penguins chose forward Sidney Crosby with the first pick of the draft.
The only other Tri-City player drafted was Riley Emmerson, who went in the seventh round to the Minnesota Wild with the 199th pick. The 6-foot-8, 230-pounder played defense and forward last season.
Price, 17, is the highest-drafted Americans player since Daymond Langkow went fifth overall in 1995 to Tampa Bay. Stu Barnes is the highest-drafted Tri-City player, going fourth to Winnipeg in 1989.
While several mock drafts had Price, the top-ranked goalie in the draft, going ninth to the Ottawa Senators, Americans general manager Bob Tory said he was not surprised that Price went No. 5.
"I had a good idea where he would go," said Tory, who could not be at the draft because the WHL's Western Conference was creating this season's schedule in Kelowna, British Columbia. "I think his play speaks for itself and his character is above reproach. He represents not only our team, but our community."
The draft, usually thick with fanfare and laden with top-ranked players, was scaled back this year, but for Price, it was just fine.
"It has been very exciting," Price said. "I wouldn't have known any different. I've been getting microphones and video cameras shoved in my face all morning."
The 6-foot-4, 205-pound Williams Lake, British Columbia, native was the first goalie taken and the first WHL player chosen. Gilbert Brule of the Vancouver Giants and a teammate of Price's for Team Canada went sixth overall to Columbus.
Ironically, several mock drafts had the Canadiens taking Brule, but instead they went with Price, who played 63 of 72 regular-season games for the Americans last season with a franchise record 2.34 goals against average and a .920 save percentage.
Montreal officials could not be reached for comment, but the Canadiens Web site praised Price for his quick lateral movement and strong glove hand.
Price met with Montreal officials after being selected and had dinner Saturday night with Canadiens GM Bob Gainey, coach Claude Julien and Trevor Timmins, the team's director of player personnel. Also joining them were other Canadiens draftees.
Joining Price in Ottawa were his parents Jerry and Lynda, sister Kayla and agent Gerry Johannson, who was an assistant coach with the Americans from 1988-91.
Jerry Price, also a goalie, was an eighth-round pick of the Philadelphia Flyers in 1978.
"This is pretty exciting," said the elder Price. "When I got drafted, I was out pouring sidewalks. It is unreal that Carey is going to Montreal. They have been around for a long time. It is quite an honor."
The Canadiens, established in 1909, are the oldest established NHL team and a member of the league's original six. They have won 24 Stanley Cups and have produced such Hall of Fame goalies as Georges Vezina (after whom the Vezina Trophy awarded to the league's top goaltender is named), Bill Durnan, Jacques Plante and Ken Dryden as well as future honoree Patrick Roy.
Price will attend Montreal's training camp in September and will work with Canadians goalie coach Rollie Melanson and goalie Jose Theodore, the league's Vezina Trophy winner in 2002.
"I'm looking forward to that," said Price, who worked with Washington Capitals goalie and Americans co-owner Olie Kolzig last season. "(Theodore) is a goalie to learn from. I don't think I could be more fortunate."
Kolzig, the 2000 Vezina winner, said Montreal is a good fit for Price.
"He is going to a real storied franchise," Kolzig said. "That team is a good fit for him. They will give him time to develop and in a couple of years he will be pushing Theodore. He's head and shoulders above where I was at his age."
Emmerson celebrated his draft day home alone, as his parents were vacationing in Whistler, British Columbia.
"I had talked to Minnesota a couple of times, but I wasn't going to get my hopes up in case it didn't happen," Emmerson said from Abbotsford, British Columbia. "I was surprised when they called today. They told me that with my size, I have tons of potential."
Emmerson, who added boxing to his workouts, will attend the Wild's training camp in September with Tri-City defenseman Clayton Stoner, who was drafted by the Wild in the third round last year.
"I'm happy to be going there with Stoner," Emmerson said. "He's a great guy and I will be more relaxed than if I had to be there alone."
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Post by clear observer on Aug 11, 2005 19:57:52 GMT -5
If I, I get to know your name
Well if I, could trace your private number, baby
All I know is that to me
You look like you're lots of fun
Open up your lovin' arms
I want some, want some
I set my sights on you
(And no one else will do)
And I, I've got to have my way now, baby
All I know is that to me
You look like you're having fun
Open up your lovin' arms
Watch out here I come
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Post by habmeister on Nov 14, 2007 0:20:18 GMT -5
how do you guys like the pick now?
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 14, 2007 0:59:35 GMT -5
how do you guys like the pick now? I'm surprised you didn't have an opinion of the pick at the time. Were you away? Any time a 17-year-old is picked, you just never know. We needed (and still need) a legitimate scoring threat. That seemed to be the gist of the sentiment at the time, seeing as it was the #5 pick. I've liked the pick since watching his MVP performance in the World Jrs. last winter...and liked it even more during his MVP performance in the Calder Cup. He seems to have already made the adjustment to the NHL. Quite the story. Our goaltending appears to be in good hands. Would we have fared better with Kopitar or Brule up front....or Marc Staal on D? The way Kopitar has played out of the gate, he may have worked out very well indeed. Water under the bridge. I'm very glad we have Price. |
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Post by habmeister on Nov 14, 2007 1:24:40 GMT -5
how do you guys like the pick now? I'm surprised you didn't have an opinion of the pick at the time. Were you away? Any time a 17-year-old is picked, you just never know. We needed (and still need) a legitimate scoring threat. That seemed to be the gist of the sentiment at the time, seeing as it was the #5 pick. I've liked the pick since watching his MVP performance in the World Jrs. last winter...and liked it even more during his MVP performance in the Calder Cup. He seems to have already made the adjustment to the NHL. Quite the story. Our goaltending appears to be in good hands. Would we have fared better with Kopitar or Brule up front....or Marc Staal on D? The way Kopitar has played out of the gate, he may have worked out very well indeed. Water under the bridge. I'm very glad we have Price. yeah was in germany at the world cup, i commented on another thread that i wanted brule, wasn't it this one? i really wanted us to take brule, saw him play so much as a giant, and price very little, and i didn't have season tickets that year yet. but after seeing price only twice the following season i changed my mind, he looked impossible to score on. kopitar would be nice, but price looks like the 2nd best pick in that draft, his coolness under pressure coupled with his size, positioning, quickness, puck handling, whats not to like about any facet of his game. ya know? i also find it very difficult to really scout goalies, which is why you can get halak/vokoun really later and patrick roy went, what like 51st overall? hindsight is perfect, i only like to get passionnate about players i've seen more then 4 or 5 times. cheers |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 14, 2007 1:46:27 GMT -5
I don't recall anyone on the board being ecstatic over that pick as we really wanted a forward.
We may also have been despondent over not lasting till the #1 pick in the lottery.
After that, speaking for myself, I was concerned because Price did not have a good year post draft. He got beaten out by Pogge for the WJC team (and now, having a better idea of his character, you have to wonder what was going through Sutter's head).
The following year, though, he started to bail out his Tri-City Americans, then he did win the WJC starting job (though it seemed to be a battle of who would lose it, rather than who'd win it) and after that I think, the real turning point....some good WJC games followed by the performance in the shootout. That victory over a very good US team, with Price carrying the team on his shoulders was the breakthrough. His confidence soared and he became even more unbeatable.
he carried an unmemorable Tri-city team into the playoffs and a 2nd round loss to Seattle and then the Calder Cup run, where he raised his game another notch. I really thought he might take a small step back and have to spend some time with Hamilton, but he keeps getting better.
I don't think there's another team that has the 1-2 punch in goal that we do. It's a good combination right now and I wouldn't break it up if I were Bob. Huet can't carry a full load, but when rested, he's very good as he was in Ottawa.
BAck to your question....in 2 years time, he might be the best pick out of that draft, not just #2. Without Brodeur, the Devils would not have 3 Stanley Cups so you cannot underestimate the value of a franchise goalie. At worst, #2 for sure.
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Post by The Habsome One on Nov 14, 2007 18:31:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised you didn't have an opinion of the pick at the time. Were you away? Any time a 17-year-old is picked, you just never know. We needed (and still need) a legitimate scoring threat. That seemed to be the gist of the sentiment at the time, seeing as it was the #5 pick. I've liked the pick since watching his MVP performance in the World Jrs. last winter...and liked it even more during his MVP performance in the Calder Cup. He seems to have already made the adjustment to the NHL. Quite the story. Our goaltending appears to be in good hands. Would we have fared better with Kopitar or Brule up front....or Marc Staal on D? The way Kopitar has played out of the gate, he may have worked out very well indeed. Water under the bridge. I'm very glad we have Price. yeah was in germany at the world cup, i commented on another thread that i wanted brule, wasn't it this one? i really wanted us to take brule, saw him play so much as a giant, and price very little, and i didn't have season tickets that year yet. but after seeing price only twice the following season i changed my mind, he looked impossible to score on. kopitar would be nice, but price looks like the 2nd best pick in that draft, his coolness under pressure coupled with his size, positioning, quickness, puck handling, whats not to like about any facet of his game (This description fits Kopitar, too). ya know? cheers Kopitar wouldn't just be nice. Kopitar would be amazing! Price is nice for us right now. Kopitar is amazing for the Kings right now and was last year, too. Kopitar is easily the 2nd best pick of the draft. NO Kings fan wishes he or she had Price instead of Kopitar. But many Habs fans wish they had Kopitar instead of Price. Last year, this year, and the next couple years would be a whole lot better for us if we had Kopitar on our team. Kopitar is the big star centre we have desperately needed for years and still need. Price is a future probable star goalie who we'll need in the future but not now. |
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Post by Gogie on Nov 15, 2007 8:02:44 GMT -5
Kopitar wouldn't just be nice. Kopitar would be amazing! Price is nice for us right now. Kopitar is amazing for the Kings right now and was last year, too. Kopitar is easily the 2nd best pick of the draft. NO Kings fan wishes he or she had Price instead of Kopitar. But many Habs fans wish they had Kopitar instead of Price. Last year, this year, and the next couple years would be a whole lot better for us if we had Kopitar on our team. Kopitar is the big star centre we have desperately needed for years and still need. Price is a future probable star goalie who we'll need in the future but not now. I remember a few years ago when the Habs drafted a guy by the name of Lafleur #1 and Detroit took some guy named Dionne #2. At the time the Habs were dominant and the Red Wings were perpetual also-rans. For the next 3 years Dionne consistently put up better numbers than Lafleur and I had to bear the taunts of my non-Hab fan friends saying the Habs should have taken Dionne. In his fourth year Lafleur blossomed and the rest is history. I don't think anyone in his right mind would pick Dionne over Lafleur (despite the fact Dionne had better career totals) - before Gretzky, Lafleur was the most dominant player in the league. The point of this is that when Lafleur came to the Habs he came to a "complete" team where players were expected to play a responsible and "complete" game. I'm convinced that his early years were not really so much underperformance on his part as him being forced to learn to play both ends of the ice. Dionne, on the other hand, was thrown into a situation where the team was mediocre and needed offense to keep the fans coming. He was allowed to play a free-wheeling style of play and pile up the points. Kopitar is in a similar situation - the Kings need to put butts in the seats so there's no way they're going to stifle Kopitar's offense in an attempt to make him a "complete" player. Put him on the Habs and I'd wager his offense drops, because even now the Habs still want their players to be responsible in both ends. Kostitsyn is a case in point - he would have been a full-time player on most teams by his second pro year but Montreal kept him in Hamilton mainly to learn defensive responsibilites (which took him awhile to accept). "But what do I know - I'm just a fan." |
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Post by clear observer on Nov 15, 2007 14:48:01 GMT -5
how do you guys like the pick now? LOVE the player....HATED the pick. |
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Post by habmeister on Nov 15, 2007 17:04:53 GMT -5
how do you guys like the pick now? LOVE the player....HATED the pick. glad you added that D on the end |
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 15, 2007 21:17:00 GMT -5
Kopitar wouldn't just be nice. Kopitar would be amazing! Price is nice for us right now. Kopitar is amazing for the Kings right now and was last year, too. Kopitar is easily the 2nd best pick of the draft. NO Kings fan wishes he or she had Price instead of Kopitar. But many Habs fans wish they had Kopitar instead of Price. Last year, this year, and the next couple years would be a whole lot better for us if we had Kopitar on our team. Kopitar is the big star centre we have desperately needed for years and still need. Price is a future probable star goalie who we'll need in the future but not now. I remember a few years ago when the Habs drafted a guy by the name of Lafleur #1 and Detroit took some guy named Dionne #2. At the time the Habs were dominant and the Red Wings were perpetual also-rans. For the next 3 years Dionne consistently put up better numbers than Lafleur and I had to bear the taunts of my non-Hab fan friends saying the Habs should have taken Dionne. In his fourth year Lafleur blossomed and the rest is history. I don't think anyone in his right mind would pick Dionne over Lafleur (despite the fact Dionne had better career totals) - before Gretzky, Lafleur was the most dominant player in the league. The point of this is that when Lafleur came to the Habs he came to a "complete" team where players were expected to play a responsible and "complete" game. I'm convinced that his early years were not really so much underperformance on his part as him being forced to learn to play both ends of the ice. Dionne, on the other hand, was thrown into a situation where the team was mediocre and needed offense to keep the fans coming. He was allowed to play a free-wheeling style of play and pile up the points. Kopitar is in a similar situation - the Kings need to put butts in the seats so there's no way they're going to stifle Kopitar's offense in an attempt to make him a "complete" player. Put him on the Habs and I'd wager his offense drops, because even now the Habs still want their players to be responsible in both ends. Kostitsyn is a case in point - he would have been a full-time player on most teams by his second pro year but Montreal kept him in Hamilton mainly to learn defensive responsibilites (which took him awhile to accept). "But what do I know - I'm just a fan." I agree with your assessment of Lafleur's early development as a Hab. He had two huge mentors....Frank Mahovlich and Henri Richard. Talk about being eased in and groomed. Not to mention the supporting cast of Cournoyer, Lemaire, Savard, Lapointe and company. Not too many players get that kind of situation. Credit: Sam Pollock. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 16, 2007 1:26:31 GMT -5
I like to think my memories of Lafleur are accurate ones and to be quite honest, after his 3rd year, he was looking as Doc says, like Bustitsyn. A teammate would get the puck and Guy would race up the ice, but not look back for the pass, which would whiz by him. He truly looked lost at times. Then another time, he'd have the puck, break down the left side (correct, the left side), make some tiny dekes with his head and the puck would go 100 miles an hour between his stick blade and the Chicago defenseman had his jock strap thrown back at him from the 12th row, while Lafleur was putting the puck past the goalie. Trouble is, there were more examples of the former than of the latter. It really was totally a matter of confidence. Playing with all those great names probably held his development back. I don't know what did it, but his 4th year was a blooming year and he was great from then until his knee injury in 80 (I still hate Pat Boutette).
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Post by clear observer on Nov 16, 2007 12:43:13 GMT -5
he was great from then until his knee injury in 80 (I still hate Pat Boutette). Best player in the world for 6 consecutive years....his knee recovered quite nicely, but his "lifestyle" caught up to him IMHO. There was NO-ONE that "tripped-the-light-fantastico" better than Guy in the late 70's and early 80's while sucking-back 50-75 cigarettes DAILY. Hell, he smoked DURING GAMES! Sure, there are those that maintain he was still in top physical form beyond the 79/80 season and that the loss(es) of Mahovlich, Lemaire and Larouche (to some extent) hurt him in the 80's but it was clear to me that Guy had both lost a step and wasn't playing with the same fire and confidence he was once over-flowing with. Where he would, by default, go end-to-end effortlessly, he was passing it off as soon as he'd get possession. He looked tired to me...tired and prematurely "aged". Again, for six seasons, there wasn't EVER a more spectacular and elegant player to ever lace 'em up.....truly a beauty to behold and I thank God that I was born when I was in order to be able to behold such a masterpiece on ice. |
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Post by clear observer on Nov 16, 2007 12:46:52 GMT -5
(I still hate Pat Boutette). Boutette was a chump...i hated the dirty punk too. (he had a pretty good slap-shot, though) |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 16, 2007 13:56:17 GMT -5
Good post Gogie. Kopitar wouldn't just be nice. Kopitar would be amazing! Price is nice for us right now. Kopitar is amazing for the Kings right now and was last year, too. Kopitar is easily the 2nd best pick of the draft. NO Kings fan wishes he or she had Price instead of Kopitar. But many Habs fans wish they had Kopitar instead of Price. Last year, this year, and the next couple years would be a whole lot better for us if we had Kopitar on our team. Kopitar is the big star centre we have desperately needed for years and still need. Price is a future probable star goalie who we'll need in the future but not now. This is a pretty even assessment for sure. Glad we have Price on the horizon but Kopitar would have been a gem as well. Question: would Kopitar have started off in the minors? This is Montreal after all. I remember Dionne being rated very high. He missed approximately 30 games and still won the OHA scoring title that year. This was true of the entire Scotty Bowman-led Habs of the 70's. Lafleur was the most dominant player, granted, but he was also extremely responsible defensively as well. One of my all-time faves, Jacques Lemaire, should be, IMHO, the standard by which two-way centres should be measured even today. Could be what Grabovski is still getting used to as well, no? Cheers. |
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Post by clear observer on Nov 16, 2007 14:24:16 GMT -5
Jacques Lemaire, should be, IMHO, the standard by which two-way centres should be measured even today. Wholeheartedly agree, he was Bryan Trottier/Bobby Hull are rolled-up into one. The perfect compliment to Guy Lafleur. |
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Post by franko on Nov 16, 2007 15:18:59 GMT -5
There was NO-ONE that "tripped-the-light-fantastico" better than Guy in the late 70's and early 80's while sucking-back 50-75 cigarettes DAILY. Hell, he smoked DURING GAMES! Steve Shutt and Chris Nilan were at the Ottawa Sports dinner and were interviewed (briefly). Nilan has the answers down pat -- the interviewers must love him! Shutt was asked how many cigarettes Guy smoked between periods -- two or three was the reply. That he has lungs and can still breathe amazes me! |
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Post by mic on Nov 19, 2007 11:04:56 GMT -5
I wanted the Habs to draft Brule. I thought that the team needed a replacement for Koivu down the road, and that Brule would just be that. Mind you, the team still hasn't anybody within the system to take on the first or second line center position, so that remains an issue. (In retrospect, Kopitar would have been the ideal pick to replace Koivu.) But that Price pick looks good so far.
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Post by skunk on Dec 3, 2007 0:24:12 GMT -5
The thing is, (although it wasn't as obvious at the time), the rule changes post lockout make goaltenders a much bigger part of a team's success than they were prior to the lockout. More room on the ice for skilled players, more powerplays, 4 on 4 overtimes and SHOOTOUTS, all enhance the value of the goaltender compared to any single skater on the team in the "New NHL".
You could probably make the case, in a year or so, that Price's value might be the highest of any player taken in that 2005 draft, including Sidney Crosby. As a goaltender, he may never be the superstar that Crosby is as a forward, but the fact that he will be on the ice 60 or 65 (or more) minutes per game for 75-100 games per year (including playoffs) and the difference between his team winning and losing in a high percentage of those games, could make him as valuable as Crosby to his team.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 3, 2007 9:50:47 GMT -5
The thing is, (although it wasn't as obvious at the time), the rule changes post lockout make goaltenders a much bigger part of a team's success than they were prior to the lockout. More room on the ice for skilled players, more powerplays, 4 on 4 overtimes and SHOOTOUTS, all enhance the value of the goaltender compared to any single skater on the team in the "New NHL". You could probably make the case, in a year or so, that Price's value might be the highest of any player taken in that 2005 draft, including Sidney Crosby. As a goaltender, he may never be the superstar that Crosby is as a forward, but the fact that he will be on the ice 60 or 65 (or more) minutes per game for 75-100 games per year (including playoffs) and the difference between his team winning and losing in a high percentage of those games, could make him as valuable as Crosby to his team. Well presented Skunk. Price may very well be just as valuable to his team as Crosby is to his. And given the potential of the support networks in place between the two clubs, Price could be a more valuable asset down the road. Cheers. |
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Post by skunk on Dec 7, 2007 17:48:23 GMT -5
I get the impression that the Penguins are not exactly thrilled with the goaltender they took #1 OVERALL in the draft just a couple years prior. M.A. "Flurry of Goals" seems to be considered the weak link in the team's development plan at the moment. |
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