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Post by blny on Dec 4, 2017 8:39:50 GMT -5
Looks like the Sens want their coach fired... losing 5-0 at the end of the 2nd vs Winnipeg. It's all over twitter in response to a tweet from Garrioch last night that quoted Stone. I don't think it's a coincidence that their play has tailed off after the Turris trade. Turris is a better player than Duchene, but Karlsson is not 100%. IMO Duchene and Brassard really is no better than what we have. Stone is producing, but Hoffman has been quiet. People are also questioning whether or not Ryan is healthy. He's apparently got a wrist issue which means he basically can't shoot the puck. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 4, 2017 10:34:52 GMT -5
Looks like the Sens want their coach fired... losing 5-0 at the end of the 2nd vs Winnipeg. It's all over twitter in response to a tweet from Garrioch last night that quoted Stone. I don't think it's a coincidence that their play has tailed off after the Turris trade. Turris is a better player than Duchene, but Karlsson is not 100%. IMO Duchene and Brassard really is no better than what we have. Stone is producing, but Hoffman has been quiet. People are also questioning whether or not Ryan is healthy. He's apparently got a wrist issue which means he basically can't shoot the puck. Ryan is a waste of cap space and Melnyk's money, the guy is as fragile as rice paper (see Grasshopper). Karlsson is hurt but he needs to not talk about contract saying 'I want what I'm worth'. If he doesn't get over his injury, he won;t get anywhere near what he thinks. Also, Doughty is an ass... If PK ever referred to another players contract and said he deserved more, he would get roasted... Doughboy says it and nothing is wrong... hypocrites... |
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Post by blny on Dec 4, 2017 10:44:15 GMT -5
It's all over twitter in response to a tweet from Garrioch last night that quoted Stone. I don't think it's a coincidence that their play has tailed off after the Turris trade. Turris is a better player than Duchene, but Karlsson is not 100%. IMO Duchene and Brassard really is no better than what we have. Stone is producing, but Hoffman has been quiet. People are also questioning whether or not Ryan is healthy. He's apparently got a wrist issue which means he basically can't shoot the puck. Ryan is a waste of cap space and Melnyk's money, the guy is as fragile as rice paper (see Grasshopper). Karlsson is hurt but he needs to not talk about contract saying 'I want what I'm worth'. If he doesn't get over his injury, he won;t get anywhere near what he thinks. Also, Doughty is an ass... If PK ever referred to another players contract and said he deserved more, he would get roasted... Doughboy says it and nothing is wrong... hypocrites... Agree on all fronts. |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 4, 2017 12:01:33 GMT -5
I don't recall too many players firing off "I'm worth top dollar" warning flares in public.....
Usually, such discussion stays between the agent and management....and among fan/media speculation.
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Post by blny on Dec 4, 2017 12:48:09 GMT -5
I don't recall too many players firing off "I'm worth top dollar" warning flares in public..... Usually, such discussion stays between the agent and management....and among fan/media speculation. "It's a new dawn. It's a new day." |
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Post by jkr on Dec 4, 2017 12:49:27 GMT -5
It's all over twitter in response to a tweet from Garrioch last night that quoted Stone. I don't think it's a coincidence that their play has tailed off after the Turris trade. Turris is a better player than Duchene, but Karlsson is not 100%. IMO Duchene and Brassard really is no better than what we have. Stone is producing, but Hoffman has been quiet. People are also questioning whether or not Ryan is healthy. He's apparently got a wrist issue which means he basically can't shoot the puck. Ryan is a waste of cap space and Melnyk's money, the guy is as fragile as rice paper (see Grasshopper). Karlsson is hurt but he needs to not talk about contract saying 'I want what I'm worth'. If he doesn't get over his injury, he won;t get anywhere near what he thinks. Also, Doughty is an ass... If PK ever referred to another players contract and said he deserved more, he would get roasted... Doughboy says it and nothing is wrong... hypocrites... What bugged me was that Doughty said he wanted "a lot more" then Subban. IMO Doughty is not worth " a lot more" than Subban. EDIT: watched the highlights of another Sens loss ( to the Kings). Karlsson score a point for the first time in a 10 game span over 274 minutes of playing time. And I remember the Habs 8-3 win in which he was -6. If he wants the big money he should start playing better. |
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Post by folatre on Dec 8, 2017 14:20:02 GMT -5
Watching a fair amount of hockey in the Eastern Conference this season, for me Montreal could finish anywhere between 8th (3rd in Atlantic) and 13th (I think Florida, Philadelphia and Buffalo are all legitimately worse). Exciting times to be a Hab fan...
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Post by seventeen on Dec 8, 2017 18:15:51 GMT -5
Watching a fair amount of hockey in the Eastern Conference this season, for me Montreal could finish anywhere between 8th (3rd in Atlantic) and 13th (I think Florida, Philadelphia and Buffalo are all legitimately worse). Exciting Depressing times to be a Hab fan... I adjusted your post slightly.  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 10, 2017 9:41:26 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Dec 10, 2017 12:02:02 GMT -5
OMG lol
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Post by folatre on Dec 10, 2017 20:55:34 GMT -5
Every team is now at least completed 1/3 mark of season.
On a points per game basis:
Tampa Bay 1.52
Columbus 1.30
Toronto 1.30
New Jersey 1.24
Washington 1.23
NY Islanders 1.21
Boston 1.19
NY Rangers 1.17
Pittsburgh 1.13
Carolina 1.04
Philly 1.00
Montreal .97
Detroit .93
Florida .90
Ottawa .89
Buffalo .66
Montreal has a shot at the playoffs though Boston profiles better in my estimation. For me the best forwards on Boston are considerably better than their equivalents on Montreal. Bergeron is far superior to Drouin. Pasternak is better than Pacioretty because he not only snipes 30-35 goals he also drives play. Gallagher brings a lot of what Marchand brings to the table but I think Marchand proves productivity over season more than Gallagher does. I know people say well Pacioretty, Drouin and Gallahger do not play together while the big three Bruins do. Well, that is part of the issue. For me the rationale of "well we can manage without elite scorers (70+ points) because we are blessed with great scoring depth" is failing to appreciate that three or four cluth, elite difference makers have more value that having eight or nine good forwards. Perhaps Price and the Habs d-corps over the middle third of the season can produce separation over Rask and the B's defense but I am not so sure anymore.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 11, 2017 1:05:44 GMT -5
I'd say that Chara, Krug and McAvoy are as good as any of Montreal's top 3. Brandon Carlo is also solid, so that's your top 4 and the bottom pairing doesn't matter so much. I don't see the Habs having any advantage on defense. This year's group is most definitely not better than last year's. UP front the Bruins are much better up the middle. Bergeron and Krejci are better than any of Montreal's centres and that includes Drouin. I don't know who's playing on the 3rd and 4th lines, After Pastrnak, Backes, and Marchand it's a dog's breakfast of fast, hard working guys, but there's enough quality on the top two lines and especially at centre, that I'd give them the edge. We have better goaltending when Price is normal. Seems to be the constant story. We have better goaltending than just about everyone, until we don't. Then there's trouble in river city.
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Post by jkr on Dec 14, 2017 10:55:56 GMT -5
Nashville beats Van 7-1 & Subban scores twice last night including one from centre ice & now has 20 points in 30 games. On pace for 55 points & is a +6. Weber scoring at the same pace but is a -9.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 14, 2017 12:13:14 GMT -5
Nashville beats Van 7-1 & Subban scores twice last night including one from centre ice & now has 20 points in 30 games. On pace for 55 points & is a +6. Weber scoring at the same pace but is a -9. Just saw the highlights....Nilsson didn't have a great night, for sure. Subban's early 1-0 goal was a change-up floater that Nilsson never picked up. ...and the 3-0 Subban goal from centre was going wide. Nilsson tried to catch it, deflecting it in off his glove. But it looked as if the Preds were making the 'Nucks D look like Swiss cheese. Wonder if we can do that next week...  |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 18, 2017 20:28:21 GMT -5
Bruins winning one of their 3 games in hand on the Habs.
Up 3-0 halfway through the game vs. Columbus...and looking good doing so.
2 PP goals.
EDIT: Runaway at the end. 7-2.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 19, 2017 12:43:34 GMT -5
I don't think we're catching Boston. The Leafs may be a better target, but they're even further ahead. Dead season.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 19, 2017 17:18:18 GMT -5
I don't think we're catching Boston. The Leafs may be a better target, but they're even further ahead. Dead season. They whipped the Canes 8-1 this afternoon. No Matthews. Scott Darling did not have a great game (was listening on the radio on the way home from Toronto)....but still. If they find their scoring touch again, we'll be a dot in their rear-view. |
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Post by folatre on Dec 19, 2017 17:26:57 GMT -5
The high end forwards on the Leafs and Bruins are too much better than the high end guys on the Habs.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 29, 2017 0:41:18 GMT -5
Canucks over Hawks 5-1 which is surprising in itself, but what was impressive is the chemistry between Vanek and Brock Boeser. Five points for Vanek and 4 for Boeser. The last 2 goals were highlight reel types. Totallly fooled the Hawk defenders. Two guys with extremely high offense IQ’s.
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Post by blny on Dec 29, 2017 11:49:51 GMT -5
Canucks over Hawks 5-1 which is surprising in itself, but what was impressive is the chemistry between Vanek and Brock Boeser. Five points for Vanek and 4 for Boeser. The last 2 goals were highlight reel types. Totallly fooled the Hawk defenders. Two guys with extremely high offense IQ’s. Vanek is going to the net and putting his soft hands to use. Boeser is a stud player. Canucks have a special one there methinks. |
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Post by seventeen on Dec 29, 2017 17:02:26 GMT -5
Yup. Think Brett Hull type. Seems to find open space and has a deadly shot. He doesn’t hit the goalie much.
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Post by blny on Dec 29, 2017 23:43:39 GMT -5
Yup. Think Brett Hull type. Seems to find open space and has a deadly shot. He doesn’t hit the goalie much. Not a bad shout. Trying to think of someone that could score nearly like Brett, but skate better. Boeser's a good skater. 80s Gartner maybe? |
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Post by Skilly on Dec 30, 2017 18:23:05 GMT -5
Ovechkin. Prolly going to be the last player any of us sees to score 700 or 800 goals
Ovechkin = 0.606 gpg
Gretzky = 0.601 gpg
Hull = 0.584 gpg
If Ovechkin plays until age 38, at the current pace he will pass Gretzky's 894 goals
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 30, 2017 20:39:16 GMT -5
Yup. Think Brett Hull type. Seems to find open space and has a deadly shot. He doesn’t hit the goalie much. Not a bad shout. Trying to think of someone that could score nearly like Brett, but skate better. Boeser's a good skater. 80s Gartner maybe? Bossy was no slouch as a skater....if memory serves. |
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Post by blny on Dec 30, 2017 23:51:25 GMT -5
Not a bad shout. Trying to think of someone that could score nearly like Brett, but skate better. Boeser's a good skater. 80s Gartner maybe? Bossy was no slouch as a skater....if memory serves. Good call. |
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Post by jkr on Dec 31, 2017 8:13:55 GMT -5
The first sweater was thrown on the ice in Ottawa last night. |
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 31, 2017 9:02:21 GMT -5
The first sweater was thrown on the ice in Ottawa last night. I sure hope some of our fans don't stoop to that level....but you never know... That's a lot of money charged to watch an inferior product...and Habs' fans have been shovelled a lot of manure the past few years..... |
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Post by jkr on Jan 1, 2018 8:47:01 GMT -5
The first sweater was thrown on the ice in Ottawa last night. I sure hope some of our fans don't stoop to that level....but you never know... That's a lot of money charged to watch an inferior product...and Habs' fans have been shovelled a lot of manure the past few years..... Maybe it was the catalyst for change in EDM and Toronto. It is embarassing but so is this team. |
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Post by franko on Jan 1, 2018 11:10:07 GMT -5
The first sweater was thrown on the ice in Ottawa last night. I sure hope some of our fans don't stoop to that level....but you never know... That's a lot of money charged to watch an inferior product...and Habs' fans have been shovelled a lot of manure the past few years..... I think if someone shells out a couple of bills to watch the inferior product they have every right to show their displeasure however way they want (I'd just not go to the game and show my displeasure that way) . . . so if throwing their highly-priced once highly prized jersey on the ice is their way to say (a la Popeye) that's all I can stands, I can't stands no more, more power to them. Though @stevewarne wonders if you are a "real fan" if you throw your jersey. I say just because you toss your jersey after you've tossed your cookies because of the team's play doesn't make you less of a fan. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 1, 2018 14:42:33 GMT -5
Oilers get smoked 5-0 by the Jets on home ice last night. Come on Oil. You smoked us twice last month, now win some other games so you can leave us in your dust in the standings.
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