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Post by blny on Jan 1, 2018 17:39:14 GMT -5
People throw hats on ice for hat tricks. It's merely the sentiment. You paid for the item. You can do what you want with it afaic.
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Post by jkr on Jan 3, 2018 22:28:16 GMT -5
After à Karlsson giveaway, thé Wings score 6 seconds into OT for a 2-1 win. Karlsson is now a -22.
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Post by folatre on Jan 7, 2018 19:17:16 GMT -5
With all of their injuries, Columbus keeps plodding along toward the playoffs. Dubois scored another goal tonight and continues to play solid for his age. I still think Columbus is not deep enough or explosive enough at centre to go deep in the playoffs but at least they look like an organisation working from a clearly conceived of plan. Things for them have really turned around with an excellent president in John Davidson and a smart, low key GM in Kekalainen.
Over the holidays, my brother in law said Montreal should trade Pacioretty for Dubois. That idea is not reasonable in the near term because the Blue Jackets are desperate for centres and medium to long-term it is nonsensical to the extreme.
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Post by folatre on Jan 7, 2018 19:42:48 GMT -5
Wow, Larkin and Point in a surprising fight with a lot of good punches landed.
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Post by blny on Jan 8, 2018 4:26:23 GMT -5
With all of their injuries, Columbus keeps plodding along toward the playoffs. Dubois scored another goal tonight and continues to play solid for his age. I still think Columbus is not deep enough or explosive enough at centre to go deep in the playoffs but at least they look like an organisation working from a clearly conceived of plan. Things for them have really turned around with an excellent president in John Davidson and a smart, low key GM in Kekalainen. Over the holidays, my brother in law said Montreal should trade Pacioretty for Dubois. That idea is not reasonable in the near term because the Blue Jackets are desperate for centres and medium to long-term it is nonsensical to the extreme. Best fits for Max are likely out west. Maybe the Panthers. Pens could use a scoring winger, but cap space has been an issue.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 8, 2018 18:10:51 GMT -5
I keep having visions of sugar plums (Robert Thomas of St. Louis) in my head. One can only dream.
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Post by blny on Jan 9, 2018 11:52:01 GMT -5
Preds have signed a trio of defenders to extensions. Y. Weber and Irwin receive two year deals starting next season. Bitetto gets a one year deal. All three will make between 650k and $1 million per year.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 10, 2018 9:20:48 GMT -5
Ottawa has been going down ever since they made the deal for Matt Duchene ... they haven't been the same team since but I won't blame Duchene for that ... taking an established player like Kyle Turris probably didn't help the dressing room, but there have been other factors, as well ... one other thing, IMO, that has been killing the Senators is the 'Erik-Karlsson-won't-re-sign-if-Eugene-Melnyk-is-the-owner' thing ... like the 'Price-will-be-out-a-little-longer' tag in Montreal two seasons ago, I'll bet the Karlsson situation is distracting the team, too ... Melnyk threatening to move the team can't help the cause either ... lots and lots of good tickets available in Ottawa just about every game ... too bad really, but Melnyk has himself to blame ... take heed of that Geoff Molson ... this is what happens when you have bad ownership ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jan 10, 2018 10:48:48 GMT -5
Ottawa has been going down ever since they made the deal for Matt Duchene ... they haven't been the same team since but I won't blame Duchene for that ... taking an established player like Kyle Turris probably didn't help the dressing room, but there have been other factors, as well ... one other thing, IMO, that has been killing the Senators is the ' Erik-Karlsson-won't-re-sign-if- Eugene-Melnyk-is-the-owner' thing ... like the 'Price-will-be-out-a-little-longer' tag in Montreal two seasons ago, I'll bet the Karlsson situation is distracting the team, too ... Melnyk threatening to move the team can't help the cause either ... lots and lots of good tickets available in Ottawa just about every game ... too bad really, but Melnyk has himself to blame ... take heed of that Geoff Molson ... this is what happens when you have bad ownership ... Cheers. It's taken a while for Duchene to fit in, but he's had 2-3 very strong games in a row. I think moving to Boucher's system was a big adjustment for him. He was used to a lot more run and gun in Colorado.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 10, 2018 15:58:07 GMT -5
Edmonton, Vancouver and Ottawa all keep cra##ing the bed these days. This does not help us move closer to the Top Five glory land!!
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Post by franko on Jan 10, 2018 16:09:14 GMT -5
It's taken a while for Duchene to fit in, but he's had 2-3 very strong games in a row. I think moving to Boucher's system was a big adjustment for him. He was used to a lot more run and gun in Colorado. I'm going to hold off on the Duchene accolades for a bit longer. 3 half decent game (OK 1 decent and 2 half decent) in the last 6 (or 10) do not inspire confidence. part of it is the system; the other part is that he's the Sens' Max: unused streaky promise.
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Post by folatre on Jan 10, 2018 19:23:23 GMT -5
And the crazy thing is Duchene will probably, perhaps without anything resembling big time numbers in recent seasons to back it up, be able to snag a very large contract from Ottawa or some other club as a UFA in the summer of 2019.
I would think it will take some combination (AAV and term) of $40 million to sign him. I guess it is being a speedy centre with high end skill set who always, fair or not, was included on Team Canada and thus possesses the gold medal halo effect.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 10, 2018 20:58:35 GMT -5
Ottawa leading TO 2-0 halfway through the game. Go Sens!
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Post by folatre on Jan 12, 2018 20:48:10 GMT -5
What a fantastic second period by Vancouver, four goals at Columbus against Bobrovsky. Go Canucks!
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 13, 2018 9:47:38 GMT -5
Talbot pulled early again. He let in two on the first three shots against the lowly Yotes. Our man Montoya came in relief and got his second game over 30 minutes of play. Win win. Oilers get a rare win and move up a tick in the standings and Montoya now has two games, with five more to go to get his 7 and for us to get a fourth round pick instead of a fifth. And the Nucks won too! We have company at 40 points.
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Post by blny on Jan 13, 2018 11:42:00 GMT -5
I wonder if Talbot having played 70 games last year isn't feeling a bit tired.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 18, 2018 20:48:27 GMT -5
Flyers retired Lindros's 88 before their game against the Leafs tonight. They showed the Stevens headshot on Lindros...and Greg Millen said, paraphrased... Scott Stevens is a good friend of mine, and I can tell you that he said he felt terrible after that hit. But that was a "hockey play" back then. If somebody came through the middle with their head down, you were told to do just that.Do what, Greg? Target the head? Paul Romanuk: And he delivered a LOT of those hits in his career. Did Stevens "feel terrible" after every one of them? I don't know, guys....I've always thought those hits were nothing but intent to K-O. They knew targeting the head was BS. But the league condoned it. It took the Matt Cooke goonery on Marc Savard to wake them up....and even THAT wasn't suspended...or penalized! In fact, Colin Campbell thought it looked good on Savard. To hear Millen trowel over his buddy's tactics.....whatever. Forearm to the head....seemed to be his specialty....
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 19, 2018 11:24:01 GMT -5
On a related note, fighting is WAY down this year. On Mitch Melnick's show the other day, they said it's because of CTE and that lawyers are going to start getting involved if it continues.
Nobody on the panel said they missed the 2-goon pre-arranged bout. Headshots and cheapshots are down also. And we're still seeing great hockey.
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Post by folatre on Jan 19, 2018 12:35:02 GMT -5
Shattenkirk is out now for knee surgery (meniscus tear) and likely could miss two months. Well, a good number of the teams in the hunt for playoffs in the East need help on the blue line (Rangers, Islanders, Leafs, among others). There are two or three d-men in Montreal who may appreciate a change of scenery.
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Post by franko on Jan 19, 2018 14:13:08 GMT -5
And we're still seeing great hockey. not in Montreal
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Post by seventeen on Jan 19, 2018 14:54:26 GMT -5
Shattenkirk is out now for knee surgery (meniscus tear) and likely could miss two months. Well, a good number of the teams in the hunt for playoffs in the East need help on the blue line (Rangers, Islanders, Leafs, among others). There are two or three d-men in Montreal who may appreciate a change of scenery. Alznerrrrrr.......Alznerrrrr. As we whisper in Jeff Gorton's ear.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 20, 2018 15:50:00 GMT -5
Excellent game on right now, Jets/Flames. High paced, great skill. You can see Habs have a ways to go to match this quality.
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Post by blny on Jan 22, 2018 6:56:44 GMT -5
Oilers have hired Coffey as a development coach. Be interesting to see what sort of impact he has.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 22, 2018 11:27:24 GMT -5
I wonder what Larsson will think when Coffey tells him, "just skate by the guy".
I haven't seen a lot of success of great players becoming great coaches for the obvious reason that they were great because they had some special natural ability or strength or smarts that one can't just pass on to someone else. That's why guys like Bowman (who never played beyond juniour), Al Arbour and many other guys like him (journeymen or minor leaguers) were the guys who had success coaching. They didn't have any natural abilities, just good people skills and an ability to learn about the game and get players to fit into a system and culture. I'm not confident Coffey will add anything to the Oilers, other than a distraction saying, "see, we're working hard to correct our problems", when really it's just packaging. Both the Oilers and Habs suffer from the same disease. Lots of similarities between the two teams, except they have McDavid and we don't.
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Post by blny on Jan 22, 2018 11:59:36 GMT -5
I wonder what Larsson will think when Coffey tells him, "just skate by the guy". I haven't seen a lot of success of great players becoming great coaches for the obvious reason that they were great because they had some special natural ability or strength or smarts that one can't just pass on to someone else. That's why guys like Bowman (who never played beyond juniour), Al Arbour and many other guys like him (journeymen or minor leaguers) were the guys who had success coaching. They didn't have any natural abilities, just good people skills and an ability to learn about the game and get players to fit into a system and culture. I'm not confident Coffey will add anything to the Oilers, other than a distraction saying, "see, we're working hard to correct our problems", when really it's just packaging. Both the Oilers and Habs suffer from the same disease. Lots of similarities between the two teams, except they have McDavid and we don't. I think it's interesting because Coffey was always cast as an outsider when he played. To my knowledge he hasn't had much involvement with the game after retirement.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 23, 2018 9:10:58 GMT -5
Good grief, Ottawa could try and win a game every now and then. Are they screwing with us on purpose?
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2018 18:19:49 GMT -5
I wonder what Larsson will think when Coffey tells him, "just skate by the guy". I haven't seen a lot of success of great players becoming great coaches for the obvious reason that they were great because they had some special natural ability or strength or smarts that one can't just pass on to someone else. That's why guys like Bowman (who never played beyond juniour), Al Arbour and many other guys like him (journeymen or minor leaguers) were the guys who had success coaching. They didn't have any natural abilities, just good people skills and an ability to learn about the game and get players to fit into a system and culture. I'm not confident Coffey will add anything to the Oilers, other than a distraction saying, "see, we're working hard to correct our problems", when really it's just packaging. Both the Oilers and Habs suffer from the same disease. Lots of similarities between the two teams, except they have McDavid and we don't. I think it's interesting because Coffey was always cast as an outsider when he played. To my knowledge he hasn't had much involvement with the game after retirement. There's also speculation that ownership wants to have a outsider's viewpoint of how the organization is running. Kind of like calling in a consultant to tell you what's wrong with your company. That is never reassuring to me. I would think that the owner should know enough about their business to tell if its being managed well, or not. Now, he may want to know which guys are performing and which aren't, but if I owned the Oilers, I could probably make some very educated guesses, just by talking to the usual suspects. It's not hard to tell which ones are giving you honest answers and which are obfuscating. Hiring a 3rd party to do that for you seems lazy and not as efficient because you now have another set of values between you and the issues. Or maybe ownership just isn't that good at it and needs the 3rd party...which should indicate that not much will change until ownership changes. Segueing back to the Habs, if Molson doesn't know by now where the problem lies, then there's an ownership problem as well. There's been one guy who's been there all along and no matter how often he tries to deflect the blame to others, he's still the connection between this mess and the team from 2012. I heard a podcast today where it was asserted that the Weber/Subban trade indicated a 'win now' approach. I totally disagree with that opinion. Subban was 27 at the time of the trade, not 23 or 24. He was in his prime. Acquiring Weber was a 'win 4 years ago' approach. No, it was all about getting rid of Subban, not acquiring Weber. Shea was merely what was available as compared to a collection of 2nd round picks because every other GM knew of Bergevin's self imposed deadline. That's pathetic management. It was merely the culmination of a basic lack of ability from the get-go. The difference in success rates for teams that tank? Those that don't manage it have poor management and those that make it work have good management. The Oilers and Sabres are excellent examples of the former and Hawks, Pens and Kings examples of the latter. I expect the Pens to start falling off as I think Rutherford's not that good and lived off the base that Shero set up. We shall see. It helps to be lucky and hit a strong draft year of course, but 80% of the success is due to management, not luck. I've been pimping the Jets as a good team for about 2 years now and they have failed every year. I didn't waver from that belief, though, because it looked to me like Chevaldayoff was doing a lot of things right. Despite that, success didn't follow. Did that mean Chevaldayoff was an idiot and should be fired? Not to me, and this year, with good goaltending, the team looks like a Stanley Cup contender. Not only that, but they have a deep pipeline of talent, so they'll remains a SC contender for several years to come. Exactly what I want the Habs to look like. One can't overemphasize how important a good GM is. Montreal doesn't have one.
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Post by franko on Jan 24, 2018 19:35:52 GMT -5
amazing . . . Marchand suspended 5 games . . . what's with that? has the Department of Player Safety grown a pair? tsn.ca
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2018 20:03:06 GMT -5
amazing . . . Marchand suspended 5 games . . . what's with that? has the Department of Player Safety grown a pair? tsn.caHe shouldn't be in the all star game... but the cheap shot artist will be there
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Post by seventeen on Jan 24, 2018 21:42:41 GMT -5
amazing . . . Marchand suspended 5 games . . . what's with that? has the Department of Player Safety grown a pair? tsn.caMore than I expected but I’d have imposed 10 games. If he’s making $6mm a year, that’s a $700,000 hit to his bank account. That’ll send a message.
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