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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2018 22:59:26 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Feb 20, 2018 1:30:34 GMT -5
Hawks send Kempny (d) to Caps for conditional third. Condition on pick is it will be the highest of the current three thirds Washington has. I was hoping mbhead would would trade Alzner to the Caps  Nice try but wouldn't they be the last team who would want him? The one team most familiar with him? |
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Post by blny on Feb 20, 2018 19:16:15 GMT -5
COuple of moves so far today:
Leafs sent Fehr to Sharks for a 7th round pick. Fehr wasn't even playing. I'm not sure he had all season. Sharks wanted a 4th line center. Leafs got a pick for a player they weren't using.
Rangers sent Nick Holden to Boston for O'Gara (d) and a 2018 third.
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Post by folatre on Feb 20, 2018 19:49:18 GMT -5
It thus seems likely the Bruins are not planning on meeting Rangers' asking price for McDonough.
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Post by blny on Feb 21, 2018 19:02:18 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Feb 22, 2018 17:13:04 GMT -5
May not be imminent, but seems like both move before Monday.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 22, 2018 22:19:54 GMT -5
Wonder if a Nash move starts a domino on others, like Patch. A bit of an arms race could ensue once one team adds fire power.
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Post by blny on Feb 22, 2018 22:32:34 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Feb 22, 2018 22:34:02 GMT -5
Wonder if a Nash move starts a domino on others, like Patch. A bit of an arms race could ensue once one team adds fire power. Probable. I will be interwsted to see what Nash goes for. I think he's one of the most overrated guys. |
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 11:55:16 GMT -5
Not a trade, but perhaps a piece that keeps JT with the Islanders gets locked up before hitting the open market himself.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 23, 2018 12:45:37 GMT -5
I like what Shero is doing in Jersey. They are getting younger and faster. That Hall trade is a fleecing of Chiarelli and the Oilers. They don't overpay too much for Grabner, who is a versatile piece for them down the stretch. He is still fast, has scored 25 goals this year, and can play on the PK and pretty well any of their top three lines as needed. I think this will end up being a much better value for money deal than whatever a team ends up paying for Nash.
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Post by folatre on Feb 23, 2018 14:50:43 GMT -5
So the Penguins just acquired Brassard for a 1st round pick and a nice goalie prospect Filip Gustavsson.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 23, 2018 14:57:02 GMT -5
Sounds like Ian Cole and his $2.1M cap are heading to Ottawa as well. That keeps PIT's cap issue under control.
It sounded like PIT was one of the biggest possible suitors for Pleks, so we shall see what other teams may still be interested.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 23, 2018 14:59:12 GMT -5
Sounds like Ian Cole and his $2.1M cap are heading to Ottawa as well. That keeps PIT's cap issue under control. It sounded like PIT was one of the biggest possible suitors for Pleks, so we shall see what other teams may still be interested. I guess the pens put a premium on offence on the 3rd line as opposed to a 200 ft game... |
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Post by folatre on Feb 23, 2018 15:38:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification.
I like this trade for Pittsburgh. I am not quite sure what Ottawa is banking on here. The first round pick is very late so even in a good draft year the player is going to be at least three years from helping. Gustavsson is a very good goalie prospect but due to his age and the position he plays, I would not say the Senators acquired a can't miss prospect.
The danger with Ottawa's tear down is that if they do not get some real and ready NHL players back, they could be truly dreadful again next season.
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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 23, 2018 15:50:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. I like this trade for Pittsburgh. I am not quite sure what Ottawa is banking on here. The first round pick is very late so even in a good draft year the player is going to be at least three years from helping. Gustavsson is a very good goalie prospect but due to his age and the position he plays, I would not say the Senators acquired a can't miss prospect. The danger with Ottawa's tear down is that if they do not get some real and ready NHL players back, they could be truly dreadful again next season. Ottawa is saving 5 million of Derek Brassards salary for next year and roughly 1.2 million for the rest of this year. Ian Cole will be traded by Ottawa for some more picks so maybe 50K of salary this year.. |
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 16:05:05 GMT -5
Sounds like Ian Cole and his $2.1M cap are heading to Ottawa as well. That keeps PIT's cap issue under control. It sounded like PIT was one of the biggest possible suitors for Pleks, so we shall see what other teams may still be interested. Pens were definitely the strongest link. Sharks were linked as well. There were a lot of people who didn't think the Pens would part with Ian Cole, especially as a cap dump. |
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Post by folatre on Feb 23, 2018 16:27:56 GMT -5
Even when the Senators flip Cole for a 3rd round pick, I still do not see how they got enough for a 30 year old 2C, non-rental on a really decent contract, who has a great playoff numbers in his career.
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 16:32:33 GMT -5
Sens also retain 18%.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 23, 2018 16:49:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. I like this trade for Pittsburgh. I am not quite sure what Ottawa is banking on here. The first round pick is very late so even in a good draft year the player is going to be at least three years from helping. Gustavsson is a very good goalie prospect but due to his age and the position he plays, I would not say the Senators acquired a can't miss prospect. The danger with Ottawa's tear down is that if they do not get some real and ready NHL players back, they could be truly dreadful again next season. On Ottawa radio fans are calling in and saying they are not renewing their seasons tickets |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 23, 2018 16:52:06 GMT -5
Even when the Senators flip Cole for a 3rd round pick, I still do not see how they got enough for a 30 year old 2C, non-rental on a really decent contract, who has a great playoff numbers in his career. I wonder how much Melnyk's obsession with saving money and shedding salary is influencing the make up of these deals. They may be shedding to have a shot at throwing huge money at EK and a faint bid to get him to stick around. Either way, they have to field a reasonable team once all these dump moves are done. The fans are not going to start coming back to the rink if they don't. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 23, 2018 17:24:56 GMT -5
Their chances of signing EK are zilch. He can get the same $ elsewhere and play for a team not owned by Melnyk. That ship has sailed. We are seeing the slow sale of the Sens. Revenues are falling and will collapse. Someone’s going to buy a franchise on the cheap. Melnyk would have done better selling it before this debacle of a tantrum on his part.
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 18:07:37 GMT -5
Nhl has voided the deal. There was a third team that hadn't been announced to make it work. That team appears to be VGK. Pens only have 500k in space. Whatevwr was moving to VGK hadn't come out. League says go back to drawing board.
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Post by PTH on Feb 23, 2018 20:33:40 GMT -5
Nhl has voided the deal. There was a third team that hadn't been announced to make it work. That team appears to be VGK. Pens only have 500k in space. Whatevwr was moving to VGK hadn't come out. League says go back to drawing board. Interesting. I wonder if with social media breaking most big stories, we'll see more of these deals that get called back by the league, and while this one should be doable regardless, in some cases the whoe deals might just fall apart. As an aside, we have plenty of cap room and there's got to be a way to use this to our advantage. Can we have someone send us a player, we retain and move him along to someone else, as part of a 3-team deal, where we lose nothing but cap room and get back an asset ? I'm sure it could be done. |
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 20:55:23 GMT -5
Nhl has voided the deal. There was a third team that hadn't been announced to make it work. That team appears to be VGK. Pens only have 500k in space. Whatevwr was moving to VGK hadn't come out. League says go back to drawing board. Interesting. I wonder if with social media breaking most big stories, we'll see more of these deals that get called back by the league, and while this one should be doable regardless, in some cases the whoe deals might just fall apart. As an aside, we have plenty of cap room and there's got to be a way to use this to our advantage. Can we have someone send us a player, we retain and move him along to someone else, as part of a 3-team deal, where we lose nothing but cap room and get back an asset ? I'm sure it could be done. If it's to be an actual rebuild, then by all means. Give us your Brouwers with your first. Etc. Bobby Mac is saying that NHL has now approved the three team deal. Details to follow. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 23, 2018 20:55:39 GMT -5
I think that is what Vegas was trying to do.
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 21:07:26 GMT -5
So Ian Cole still to Ott, Brassard still to Pitt plus ...
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 21:27:14 GMT -5
VGK also retaining 40% of Brassard cap hit this season
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2018 21:28:20 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Feb 23, 2018 22:23:01 GMT -5
Dorion's haul is a very late first rounder, a very nice goalie prospect, a third rounder, and Cole (he will be traded for a 3rd or maybe a 2nd if lucky).
Rutherford scooped up a very nice non-rental 30 year old 2C, a third round pick, and a second tier forward prospect.
McPhee commits Vegas to pay $1.6 million between now and the end of Brassard's contract and picks up a 4th rounder along with Reaves a tough guy soon to be UFA. Is this other Vegas-Pittsburgh transaction truly separate or about settling values?
Anyway, there is a lot going on in the deal. But my overall impression continues to be that Ottawa did not receive a single player that can help them in 2018-19 or 2019-20.
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