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Post by blny on Apr 30, 2019 7:18:10 GMT -5
I find it interesting that the general consensus is that Poehling and Suzuki are heading for Laval. I wonder how much of that is derived from the Weal/Thompson signings? FRankly, I don't think Poehling needs any seasoning. He's already got a good sized body, a very good IQ and seems to have the right desire and temperament. Would he learn anything more in Laval? Suzuki is a more likely candidate to work with Bouchard. If his skating is up to snuff, though, I'm very curious to see how he handles training camp and hopefully preseason. He's got all the skill and intelligence. Is he strong enough and fast enough? He's probably the most natural scorer we have in the pipeline and wouldn't you like to have that on display with the big club? Entirely possible that Poehling makes the team out of camp. Thompson could be an insurance policy/13th man, but I like him as the 4c and second pk guy. If Poehling is only going to play 4th line minutes, I'd honestly prefer he play in Laval. There's a persistent rush now to get prospects into the NHL, only to play them down the lineup. We have the luxury with Poehling that it isn't NHL or jr/Europe. I believe it's better to have him playing a key role with lots of minutes in lots of situations than to be sitting on the bench and only playing 8 minutes a night. If you look at some of the teams that have inserted younger players with success, you find that those players played together on the farm for a bit. It's something Montreal used to do as well. Look at all those kids that came up in the 80s and early 90s. They played key roles in Sherbrooke. They won in Sherbrooke. When they came up together, they had chemistry and confidence. |
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Post by frozone on Apr 30, 2019 10:00:55 GMT -5
I find it interesting that the general consensus is that Poehling and Suzuki are heading for Laval. I wonder how much of that is derived from the Weal/Thompson signings? FRankly, I don't think Poehling needs any seasoning. He's already got a good sized body, a very good IQ and seems to have the right desire and temperament. Would he learn anything more in Laval? Suzuki is a more likely candidate to work with Bouchard. If his skating is up to snuff, though, I'm very curious to see how he handles training camp and hopefully preseason. He's got all the skill and intelligence. Is he strong enough and fast enough? He's probably the most natural scorer we have in the pipeline and wouldn't you like to have that on display with the big club? Entirely possible that Poehling makes the team out of camp. Thompson could be an insurance policy/13th man, but I like him as the 4c and second pk guy. If Poehling is only going to play 4th line minutes, I'd honestly prefer he play in Laval. There's a persistent rush now to get prospects into the NHL, only to play them down the lineup. We have the luxury with Poehling that it isn't NHL or jr/Europe. I believe it's better to have him playing a key role with lots of minutes in lots of situations than to be sitting on the bench and only playing 8 minutes a night. If you look at some of the teams that have inserted younger players with success, you find that those players played together on the farm for a bit. It's something Montreal used to do as well. Look at all those kids that came up in the 80s and early 90s. They played key roles in Sherbrooke. They won in Sherbrooke. When they came up together, they had chemistry and confidence. I agree with everything you've stated, blny. And specifically with Poehling, a player who has a reputation to for perhaps not shooting often enough, it would be great if he can try to work on some of these habits in the AHL. Besides, in the NHL our coaches need to focus on winning. There's just less time for focusing on the development of the younger players. So unless Poehling greatly improves the big club's chances of winning, then send him to Laval where development is the name of the game. Not to mention, based on Mete's very sudden 180° turnaround last season, I'm convinced a bit of time with Bouchard can only be a good thing. |
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Post by blny on Apr 30, 2019 10:05:46 GMT -5
Not to mention, based on Mete's very sudden 180° turnaround last season, I'm convinced a bit of time with Bouchard can only be a good thing. Excellent point. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Apr 30, 2019 12:13:12 GMT -5
Just hypothetical here, but would you include either (Suzuki, Poehling) in a deal with say Shaw and Lekhonen for Mitch Marner?
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Post by blny on Apr 30, 2019 12:24:57 GMT -5
Just hypothetical here, but would you include either (Suzuki, Poehling) in a deal with say Shaw and Lekhonen for Mitch Marner? Yes. |
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Post by Polarice on Apr 30, 2019 13:58:58 GMT -5
Just hypothetical here, but would you include either (Suzuki, Poehling) in a deal with say Shaw and Lekhonen for Mitch Marner? I would assume they would asked for one or both. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Apr 30, 2019 17:40:15 GMT -5
Just hypothetical here, but would you include either (Suzuki, Poehling) in a deal with say Shaw and Lekhonen for Mitch Marner? I would assume they would asked for one or both. Just hypothetical but would I include a corvette and a Mustang GT with a Chevy and a Ford for a Ferrari? Depends if I need a Ferrari and can afford maintenance under my budget cap. Practicality no but if I want to win, yes! |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 1, 2019 8:27:45 GMT -5
I would assume they would asked for one or both. Just hypothetical but would I include a corvette and a Mustang GT with a Chevy and a Ford for a Ferrari? Depends if I need a Ferrari and can afford maintenance under my budget cap. Practicality no but if I want to win, yes! You know your cars HFLA, and the vehicles you assigned the players is accurate, so I agree, you have to give to get. I'd give Poehling, Shaw & Lekhy and a 2nd for Marner I'd want to keep Nick, but since he has been great for Guelph, I can see the leafs demanding him instead. |
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Post by Tankdriver on May 1, 2019 13:30:45 GMT -5
I was just basing my offer on the proverbial player, pick, top prospect, Mid Level prospect/NHL Player deals that get thrown around. That's what I am guessing it will take: Suzuki, 1st Round Pick, Lekhonen and Shaw with maybe another pick (min 2 round).
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Post by seventeen on May 1, 2019 14:36:48 GMT -5
Marner's elite. 94 points this year. That's not chopped liver. It would take more.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 2, 2019 1:18:51 GMT -5
Just hypothetical but would I include a corvette and a Mustang GT with a Chevy and a Ford for a Ferrari? Depends if I need a Ferrari and can afford maintenance under my budget cap. Practicality no but if I want to win, yes! You know your cars HFLA, and the vehicles you assigned the players is accurate, so I agree, you have to give to get. I'd give Poehling, Shaw & Lekhy and a 2nd for Marner I'd want to keep Nick, but since he has been great for Guelph, I can see the leafs demanding him instead. I wonder if his true value is diminished by Toronto's embarrassment of riches and future cap problems. Today he is a RFA but soon he will be able to walk for zero return. I too prefer Suzuki. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 3, 2019 9:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 3, 2019 22:44:08 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 6, 2019 23:55:57 GMT -5
Ottawa has not lost a game this playoffs. 14-0. Guelph down 2-0 in the series. Back home in Guelph, and Suzuki gets three assists as the Storm win 7-2. Did not see that coming.
Teasdale with two more goals, Rouyn now up 2-1 in their series against the Moosehead. Both are going to the Memorial Cup. Halifax are the host, so even if they win the Q playoffs, Rouyn Noranda will go as well.
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2019 0:11:05 GMT -5
Dipietro's out for Ottawa. Seems to have made a difference. Thought for sure Guelph would lose this one to set up another 4 game comeback.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 7, 2019 9:33:08 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 7, 2019 10:02:00 GMT -5
Was at the development camp last year. Decent offensive numbers in the Liiga; bad +/- on a bad defensive team. He played with Ikonen, when Ikonen was healthy enough to play. Good add for Laval, where we can see how he adapts under the guidance of Bouchard. The top prize for Finnish defensive free agents was Oliwer Kaski, but it sounds like he is headed to Detroit. |
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Post by blny on May 7, 2019 10:16:05 GMT -5
LHD, we'll see how he does. If nothing else, it could upgrade the talent level in Laval.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 7, 2019 10:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by BadCompany on May 7, 2019 10:53:09 GMT -5
LHD, we'll see how he does. If nothing else, it could upgrade the talent level in Laval. I wonder what impact, if any, this has on Walford and Tyskza, two unsigned, left-shooting defensemen who could have been destined for Laval. Current left defenseman depth chart: | Name | Contract Status | | Mete | signed | | Kulak | RFA | | Benn | UFA | | Reilly | RFA | | Alzner | signed | | Sklenicka | signed | | Oloffson | RFA | | Leskinen | signed | | Walford | unsigned | | Tyszka | unsigned |
If all of Oloffson, Walford, and Tyszka are signed that would give Laval six left-shooting defensemen. Since three of them are already signed (Alzner, Sklenicka, Leskinen), it seems likely that at least one of Oloffson, Walford, or Tyszka don't get signed, if not all three. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 7, 2019 11:43:49 GMT -5
I am with BC, I don’t see all three of Olofsson, Walford and Tyszka with contracts this year. Leskinen can replace Olofsson for sure, as the latter is a china doll...always injured. Leskinen is younger (just a bit older than Juulsen) and has been getting better in the Liiga each year. I would still sign Walford as he showed good progression this year, and if they get a good medical read on Tyszka, they may give him a deal. It really depends what other players are on their radar with their remaining NHL contracts. They gave Pezetta and free agent Waked a deal.  |
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Post by BadCompany on May 7, 2019 12:21:34 GMT -5
According to capfriendly they’ve got 44 of a possible 50 contract spots accounted for. Meaning they can sign 6 more players.
You gotta figure Armia, Lehkonen, and Kulak get three of those spots. If you want to leave some room for somebody like McCarron and a free agent or two, then there really isn’t much room for Walford and Tyszka. It becomes a simple numbers game, and the numbers aren’t good. Dale Weise is a good buy-out candidate, but after that you’re going to have to wheel and deal as best you can to try and free up some spots, and I don’t know if it’s going to be possible.
I guess the best case scenario would be we end up with a bunch of 7th round picks for guys like Deslauriers, Ouellet, Hudon, Lernout, Reilly, and so on. That way at least we wouldn’t lose them for nothing. And perhaps they can deal somebody like Pezzetta or Verbeek for somebody else’s unsigned 7th rounder or something. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. Most teams are going to have their own contract number limitations already.
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Post by BadCompany on May 7, 2019 13:58:37 GMT -5
According to capfriendly they’ve got 44 of a possible 50 contract spots accounted for. Meaning they can sign 6 more players. You gotta figure Armia, Lehkonen, and Kulak get three of those spots. If you want to leave some room for somebody like McCarron and a free agent or two, then there really isn’t much room for Walford and Tyszka. It becomes a simple numbers game, and the numbers aren’t good. Dale Weise is a good buy-out candidate, but after that you’re going to have to wheel and deal as best you can to try and free up some spots, and I don’t know if it’s going to be possible. I guess the best case scenario would be we end up with a bunch of 7th round picks for guys like Deslauriers, Ouellet, Hudon, Lernout, Reilly, and so on. That way at least we wouldn’t lose them for nothing. And perhaps they can deal somebody like Pezzetta or Verbeek for somebody else’s unsigned 7th rounder or something. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. Most teams are going to have their own contract number limitations already. Disregard this post. I completely read capfriendly wrong. We actually only have 36 players under contract at the moment, so of course they - and other teams - have lots of room to maneuver. I thought that looked funny.  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 7, 2019 15:35:48 GMT -5
According to capfriendly they’ve got 44 of a possible 50 contract spots accounted for. Meaning they can sign 6 more players. You gotta figure Armia, Lehkonen, and Kulak get three of those spots. If you want to leave some room for somebody like McCarron and a free agent or two, then there really isn’t much room for Walford and Tyszka. It becomes a simple numbers game, and the numbers aren’t good. Dale Weise is a good buy-out candidate, but after that you’re going to have to wheel and deal as best you can to try and free up some spots, and I don’t know if it’s going to be possible. I guess the best case scenario would be we end up with a bunch of 7th round picks for guys like Deslauriers, Ouellet, Hudon, Lernout, Reilly, and so on. That way at least we wouldn’t lose them for nothing. And perhaps they can deal somebody like Pezzetta or Verbeek for somebody else’s unsigned 7th rounder or something. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. Most teams are going to have their own contract number limitations already. Disregard this post. I completely read capfriendly wrong. We actually only have 36 players under contract at the moment, so of course they - and other teams - have lots of room to maneuver. I thought that looked funny. Looks like tha angel, Senator Hartland Molson looking down at Geoff Molson. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 8, 2019 23:06:50 GMT -5
Suzuki with a 1g 2a night helps Guelph tie their series with Ottawa at 2 games apiece. He also sets a Storm team record for most playoff points. Another day at the office.
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Post by BadCompany on May 9, 2019 8:37:53 GMT -5
Suzuki OHL goal totals, regular season and playoffs:
2015-16: 22 goals in 69 games
2016-17: 53 goals in 82 games
2017-18: 45 goals in 75 games
2018-19: 49 goals in 81 games (so far)
#sniper?
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Post by blny on May 9, 2019 10:05:21 GMT -5
Suzuki OHL goal totals, regular season and playoffs: 2015-16: 22 goals in 69 games 2016-17: 53 goals in 82 games 2017-18: 45 goals in 75 games 2018-19: 49 goals in 81 games (so far) #sniper? He's got a great shot. Certainly the best in our development system. |
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Post by franko on May 9, 2019 10:25:40 GMT -5
Suzuki with a 1g 2a night helps Guelph tie their series with Ottawa at 2 games apiece. don't remind me. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 9, 2019 11:47:18 GMT -5
Suzuki with a 1g 2a night helps Guelph tie their series with Ottawa at 2 games apiece. don't remind me. Have been able to get to any games, Franko ... I thought about it too long and game 5 is sold out from what I understand ... Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on May 9, 2019 12:16:29 GMT -5
Suzuki with a 1g 2a night helps Guelph tie their series with Ottawa at 2 games apiece. don't remind me. The DiPietro injury hurts. (both him and you) |
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