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Post by CentreHice on Apr 24, 2019 20:48:23 GMT -5
I went to bed when it was 2-0 Vegas.......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 21:37:45 GMT -5
Don't know if the refs put the whistles away in this Canes-Caps game or if they even brought them at all...
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Post by seventeen on Apr 24, 2019 23:10:03 GMT -5
Chara got nothing for almost killing Pacioretty. But if there'd been a little bit of blood...OMG. Wrong. But.... ... Perfect example. Hockey play gone wrong they said ... But Chara did get 5 mins and a game for INTERFERENCE on that play. That seems reasonable.  Maybe my eyes are bad, but it looked to me like Eakin cross checks him (hard), but then he gets tangled up with Stastny, loses his balance and hits his head on the ice causing the cut, etc. Did the cross check directly cause him to fall? That stuff goes on all the time in front of the net. Sometimes it's called, sometimes it isn't. It's never a major and game. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 24, 2019 23:15:08 GMT -5
Don't know if the refs put the whistles away in this Canes-Caps game or if they even brought them at all... I absolutely knew the Canes were going to win. The sports gods are getting their revenge on me for my many years of dynasties in my youth. I hate the Canes (J. Williams). They win. I like the Flames. Avs win. I like the Jets. Blues win. I prefer Nashville. Dallas wins. I prefer the Leafs (by the slimmest of margins). Bruins win. I preferred the Vegan Knights and the sports gods burned the refs brains and the Sharks win. Both Canadian curling teams lost at the worlds. Blue Jays are going to finish near the bottom this year. I'm just waiting for them to pull the rug out from under the Raptors. WTF is going on? No one has this much bad luck. Ok, the Blue Jackets beat Tammpa, but they're the next to fall. Guaranteed. Anyone wanting to make a bundle on the betting line, PM me and I'll tell you who I'm pulling for. Pick the other. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 24, 2019 23:54:36 GMT -5
Injury doesn't always have something to do with resulting call. Otherwise 2 minute penalties that inadvertently result in concussion wouldn't be two minutes. If I trip a guy and he falls and cuts his lip, it's still a 2 minute penalty. Injury as a result of CROSS CHECKING, or INTERFERENCE is 5 and a game. Tripping doesn't have that provision. The call that was called does, and if you were of the opinion the cross check call was BS, then the obvious interference also carries 5 and a game for injury. Tripping has nothing to do with this call. Once again, I agree the rule book is not applied in all situations, and I'd submit NHL refs are the worst in all sports. But the call was by the book in this instance. There was an injury, it was as a result of a penalty that has the 5 and a game clause , (take your pick, cross checking that the ref thought it was, or interference like I think it was). Just read an article on the Athletic where they debated this topic. The consensus was that the cross check Eakin threw on Pavelski happens 20 times a game and it's just part of the game. The problem was that the refs didn't call anything until they saw the extent of Pavelski's injury, assumed it was the cross check that caused it and that's all she wrote. ONe of the guys discussing it was Jesse Granger and he makes the comment below. That particular point (that the call didn't beat the Knights, the 4 PP goals against did) has been made by numerous journalists and I disagree. Granger puts it perfectly in his last sentence. From no chance at all, the major penalty gave the Sharks every chance. Jesse Granger: The controversial call didn’t end the Golden Knights’ season. Vegas still had four chances to stop the Sharks’ power play unit that it stymied all series, and failed all four times. What the call did was give San Jose a chance, because prior to that call the Sharks didn’t have one.Van Massenhoven's explanation the next day explained nothing. What happened was the refs didn't see what happened, made an assumption and destroyed the Vegan Knights playoff season. They don't make that call, or call just a minor, and the odds are extremely high they don't come back. |
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Post by blny on Apr 25, 2019 5:21:36 GMT -5
Injury doesn't always have something to do with resulting call. Otherwise 2 minute penalties that inadvertently result in concussion wouldn't be two minutes. If I trip a guy and he falls and cuts his lip, it's still a 2 minute penalty. Injury as a result of CROSS CHECKING, or INTERFERENCE is 5 and a game. Tripping doesn't have that provision. The call that was called does, and if you were of the opinion the cross check call was BS, then the obvious interference also carries 5 and a game for injury. Tripping has nothing to do with this call. Once again, I agree the rule book is not applied in all situations, and I'd submit NHL refs are the worst in all sports. But the call was by the book in this instance. There was an injury, it was as a result of a penalty that has the 5 and a game clause , (take your pick, cross checking that the ref thought it was, or interference like I think it was). I'm not gonna go looking for 2 minute interference penalties that resulted in concussions, or players going to concussion protocol, but I know I've seen them this season. 5 for a cross-check was ALWAYS reserved for a stick that made contact with the head OR driving a player from behind into the boards. Neither occurred here. As 17 points out, they didn't see the play and reacted to the blood on the ice. I used an example of tripping because imo what Eakins did was a minor penalty at most. The whole process used to make that call should be reviewed, and it should be ensured it's never employed again. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 25, 2019 7:07:51 GMT -5
Wrong. But.... ... Perfect example. Hockey play gone wrong they said ... But Chara did get 5 mins and a game for INTERFERENCE on that play. That seems reasonable. Maybe my eyes are bad, but it looked to me like Eakin cross checks him (hard), but then he gets tangled up with Stastny, loses his balance and hits his head on the ice causing the cut, etc. Did the cross check directly cause him to fall? That stuff goes on all the time in front of the net. Sometimes it's called, sometimes it isn't. It's never a major and game. It's my opinion after looking at the replay many times in slow motion, that he didn't just "get tangled up with Stastny". Stastny sees Pavelski is off balance as he approaches him, takes one hand off of his stick, puts his hand into Pavelski's chest, and moves his arm to push. THAT'S the play I have more issue with than the cross check. The refs called the cross check, but the injury was a result of the interference. Same call applies, they just got the wrong player |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 25, 2019 7:09:07 GMT -5
Injury as a result of CROSS CHECKING, or INTERFERENCE is 5 and a game. Tripping doesn't have that provision. The call that was called does, and if you were of the opinion the cross check call was BS, then the obvious interference also carries 5 and a game for injury. Tripping has nothing to do with this call. Once again, I agree the rule book is not applied in all situations, and I'd submit NHL refs are the worst in all sports. But the call was by the book in this instance. There was an injury, it was as a result of a penalty that has the 5 and a game clause , (take your pick, cross checking that the ref thought it was, or interference like I think it was). I'm not gonna go looking for 2 minute interference penalties that resulted in concussions, or players going to concussion protocol, but I know I've seen them this season. 5 for a cross-check was ALWAYS reserved for a stick that made contact with the head OR driving a player from behind into the boards. Neither occurred here. As 17 points out, they didn't see the play and reacted to the blood on the ice. I used an example of tripping because imo what Eakins did was a minor penalty at most. The whole process used to make that call should be reviewed, and it should be ensured it's never employed again. What Eakin did was minor … what Stastny did was not. Pushing a defenseless player, whether accidental or not, cause the injury |
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 25, 2019 8:29:13 GMT -5
It's going to really suck when the Bruins win the Cup.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 25, 2019 8:32:57 GMT -5
Too bad that in such a circumstance that the refs can't use video review.
That play happened quickly. The refs missed that it was Stastny's action that slammed Pavelski's head to the ice.
Gotta get these kinds of calls correct. Make a call on the ice....and let video overrule it, if possible.
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Post by franko on Apr 25, 2019 13:55:52 GMT -5
Based on my skill in predicting Round 1 of the Stanley Cup playoffs, please take this prediction with a grain of salt!!  boy, with you there. 2-6 . . . at least my predicted Cup winner is still in it. not sure if there's any use keeping on going, but since there's a game tonight, and since my evening suddenly became free and I'll probably tune in . . . here we go for the next round: CBJ over Boston in 6 Panarin 1 NYI over Carolina in 5 Nelson 2 COL over San Jose in 6 (why, you ask? I have no idea; SJ still may sneak through and win it all) Rantanen 2 StLo over Dallas in . . . 5? Schwartz 2 *never try to do something on your cell when you are in a hurry |
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Post by folatre on Apr 25, 2019 15:25:58 GMT -5
NHL apologized to Vegas for the incorrect call.
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Post by franko on Apr 25, 2019 15:50:49 GMT -5
NHL apologized to Vegas for the incorrect call. And that makes everything better. |
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Post by Dschens on Apr 25, 2019 16:05:14 GMT -5
Round 1 is history, please make your predictions for round 2! To make it a little bit more entertaining there will be two bonus points for every series in this round. One point for correctly predicting the player who scores the most goals in each series and a second one for the right answer to the question how many games of the series will be decided in overtime. |
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Post by Dschens on Apr 25, 2019 16:48:44 GMT -5
Blues in 6, Alexander Radulov, 1 ot game
Sharks in 6, Logan Couture, 2 ot games
Bruins in 7, Brad Marchand, 1 ot game
Islanders in 5, Jordan Eberle, 0 ot games
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 25, 2019 19:00:38 GMT -5
... so much for ring-kissing ceremonies ...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 25, 2019 19:37:26 GMT -5
NHL apologized to Vegas for the incorrect call. I had to suck back and reload when 17 quoted "The Athletic" where there was no initial call, but rather a call that resulted from the injury and not so much the play ... as an aside, I remember the league issuing an apology to the Habs back in the day, but I can't remember what it was for ... it's big when the league does this ... Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 25, 2019 20:04:03 GMT -5
Blues in 6, Alexander Radulov, 1 ot game Sharks in 6, Logan Couture, 2 ot games Bruins in 7, Brad Marchand, 1 ot game Islanders in 5, Jordan Eberle, 0 ot games Dis's Dysfunctional Picks Bruins in 6, Carolina in 7, the Canes seem to be built for the playoffs and are now my Cup favourite.* Blues in 7, like the Canes, the STL has been in playoff mode for months now. Colorado in 7, why not? * The winner of the CAR/NYI series should win the Cup. Cheers. Disclaimer: I do not bet well on Pro Line. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 25, 2019 20:12:04 GMT -5
It's going to really suck when the Bruins win the Cup. When Habs fans realize that Boston is the Cup favourite. |
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Post by blny on Apr 25, 2019 20:35:58 GMT -5
It's going to really suck when the Bruins win the Cup. When Habs fans realize that Boston is the Cup favourite. Nice use of Cannonball Run Dean.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 25, 2019 20:52:51 GMT -5
Watching the blues stars game and I miss Radulov in a habs jersey... skill, size, desire, character... everything MB says he covets...
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 25, 2019 21:02:51 GMT -5
Marchand steps on a jackets players stick and breaks it, right before a faceoff and no penalty... what a douche.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 25, 2019 21:31:15 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Apr 25, 2019 22:09:04 GMT -5
Marchand turned out to be a much better player than I ever thought he could be (does not hurt to play with Bergeron and Pasternak), but in terms of on ice integrity nothing has ever changed with him, he is still the same HDRMP he always was.
Yeah, losing a player with the fire and skill of Radulov was a big blow. A buddy of mine, who apparently when he feels down about his team (Buffalo, jeje) needles me about the Habs, "asked" the other day if a majority of Montreal fans would rather have Radulov and Sergachev over Drouin and Alzner.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 26, 2019 2:06:25 GMT -5
It's going to really suck when the Bruins win the Cup. Yes, this year reminds me way too much of 2011 where everything seemed to go their way. |
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Post by franko on Apr 26, 2019 5:51:26 GMT -5
Marchand steps on a jackets players stick and breaks it, right before a faceoff accident. hockey play gone bad. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 26, 2019 7:05:31 GMT -5
Marchand steps on a jackets players stick and breaks it, right before a faceoff accident. hockey play gone bad. Lol.... it happens a lot to the Bruins... poor guys |
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Post by folatre on Apr 26, 2019 18:32:04 GMT -5
The cheap Canes are going to have to spend some money next season. Mrazek sure will see a bump up from 1.5 million. Role players excelling in the playoffs like McGinn and McKegg are going to need decent raises. And Aho, a true superstar in the league, is in line for a long-term contract with an annual value that starts with the number 7.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 28, 2019 9:37:57 GMT -5
Duchene sure has paid off for Columbus.
4-4-8 in 6 games, including the OT winner last night.
How about Pacioretty? Playing where he doesn't have to be THE MAN--11 pts. in 7 games. (And should STILL be piling them up.)
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Post by blny on Apr 28, 2019 11:08:07 GMT -5
The cheap Canes are going to have to spend some money next season. Mrazek sure will see a bump up from 1.5 million. Role players excelling in the playoffs like McGinn and McKegg are going to need decent raises. And Aho, a true superstar in the league, is in line for a long-term contract with an annual value that starts with the number 7. In a spring dominated by offer sheet discussion, he would be an under the radar one to target. Everyone talks about Marner because of the Leafs cap situation. Aho is an excellent young player outside the spotlight in Raleigh. |
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