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Post by PTH on Apr 19, 2021 16:45:52 GMT -5
You'd rather we didn't trade for Petry ? Course not, but we didn't replace that 2nd rounder or add any other choices. It wasn't a specific criticism of one move but it would have been nice to have a lot of picks in a great draft year is basically what I'm saying. As a GM, my goal would be to always have more than my usual allotment of picks. One can't easily project which draft year is going to be great, but if you have more picks and better picks every year, it doesn't matter. To do that you have to be smart enough to move your declining players just before they begin their decline. It's a bit of a gamble of course, but then playing it safe just ensures you have an asset that isn't good enough and wont get you anything back. Petry wasn't as good then as he is now, but that was a pretty solid group of top 3 Dmen, PK, Markov and Petry. We had a good enough defense then, but our centre position was very weak. I got that... it's just that it's easy to complain, afterwards. Berg thought he was building a short-term winner back then, and picks weren't as relevant. When it became clear that we weren't contending, he retooled while taking the "get picks" approach you suggest... I have to say I'm disappointed in the current cap mess we're in, since it's the kind of middle management that Berg has generally done well in, just like most pro scouting... and now we just wasted cap space as well as assets to get a waste of space in Staal. I'm thinking Berg is feeling under too much pressure and is making unforced errors... I'm hoping we have a new GM this summer, who can take advantage of the things Berg did well while finding a way to clear out his mistakes. |
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Post by folatre on Apr 19, 2021 18:16:53 GMT -5
Good points, PTH.
I read most of a piece by Yost on TSN this morning and via analytics the picture he paints of Staal is not pretty. Unfortunately, I am not sure Ducharme has the authority to sit anyone in the age 30+ gang. He would almost certainly require Bergevin's approval.
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Post by jkr on Apr 19, 2021 20:07:35 GMT -5
If a TSN reporter can see Staal's shortcomings why can't the pro scouts? Or do they just ignore it?
It's just another sign of the ineptitude of this team and in my opinion it starts at the top with Molson. He's an absentee landlord.
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Post by jkr on Apr 20, 2021 8:02:53 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 20, 2021 10:31:53 GMT -5
He would almost certainly require Bergevin's approval. I certainly hope this is not the case ... Cheers. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 20, 2021 11:30:02 GMT -5
That is quite an amazing accomplishment. And it is not like he played in the perimeter for all those games, he played some tough shifts over the years. Phenomenal how he stayed so healthy. A tip of the hat for sure. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 20, 2021 22:47:23 GMT -5
Vancouver edging closer. Another big win vs the Leafs.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 21, 2021 6:13:44 GMT -5
Vancouver edging closer. Another big win vs the Leafs. Toronto's having goalie woes. Campbell isn't invincible after all....and Rittich with two 5-holers in the third period last night. From The Hockey News: Maple Leafs' David Rittich: 'I'm Taking Full Responsibility For The Game'
Toronto Maple Leafs goaltender David Rittich let in three goals in the third period, including a couple on a pair of routine shots as his team fell to the Vancouver Canucks 6-3. Rittich says his team supported him with offense and he has to be better.Campbell took the blame for the 4-2 loss to the Habs. Canadian Press: "I just think the guys deserved to win," he said. "I'm pretty embarrassed by my effort to be honest. It's just not good enough and it cost us the game." Mea and Culpa in goal for the Leafs. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 21, 2021 6:26:56 GMT -5
Vancouver edging closer. Another big win vs the Leafs. Is Pettersen back anytime soon? Because, if he is, Vancouver is another North division team with 2 centres (Pettersen and Horvat) that Montreal can't match. Also I recommend watching the highlights of the Pens / Devils game. Pitt ran up a 6-0 lead. Devils score 6 in the 3rd but get edged 7-6. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 21, 2021 6:30:48 GMT -5
Vancouver edging closer. Another big win vs the Leafs. Toronto's having goalie woes. Campbell isn't invincible after all....and Rittich with two 5-holers in the third period last night. From The Hockey News: Maple Leafs' David Rittich: 'I'm Taking Full Responsibility For The Game'
Toronto Maple Leafs goaltender David Rittich let in three goals in the third period, including a couple on a pair of routine shots as his team fell to the Vancouver Canucks 6-3. Rittich says his team supported him with offense and he has to be better.Campbell took the blame for the 4-2 loss to the Habs. Canadian Press: "I just think the guys deserved to win," he said. "I'm pretty embarrassed by my effort to be honest. It's just not good enough and it cost us the game." Mea and Culpa in goal for the Leafs. No one Toronto has on the roster, including Andersen, has a winning pedigree in the playoffs. And after this season, Andersen may be gone as a UFA. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2021 7:45:08 GMT -5
Also I recommend watching the highlights of the Pens / Devils game. Pitt ran up a 6-0 lead. Devils score 6 in the 3rd but get edged 7-6. I wish our guys would drive to the net like Sharongovitch That goal by Foote was a beauty goal... The Devs are fun to watch |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 22, 2021 16:14:20 GMT -5
Only nine players in the history of the NHL have scored 140 points in a season ....McDavid, over an 82 game season, is on pace to be #10 ....
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Post by folatre on Apr 23, 2021 12:48:25 GMT -5
Looking at the standing, I wonder if Dallas' ownership and management would like a mulligan on their refusal to go to the West Division, which led to both Minnesota and St. Louis going out there.
Maybe the Stars still make the playoffs in the Central, but their path sure would have been easier in the West.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 28, 2021 23:04:15 GMT -5
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Post by frozone on Apr 29, 2021 8:25:37 GMT -5
Good for Mete. I'm happy for the kid, although I couldn't help but chuckle a little when I saw that shot. We've come to expect weak shots from him, but that one especially was a pillowy soft cupcake and it's not like the puck was rolling on him. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 29, 2021 15:17:59 GMT -5
Meanwhile Max Pacioretty continues his scoring ways. 32 goals last year and he's on a 40 goal pace this year over a full season and playing on maybe the best team in the league.
Still a good trade for both sides, but not so much the slam dunk people thought it was. Tatar was a nice throw in but he could be gone this summer as a UFA and the jury is still out on Suzuki.
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Post by franko on Apr 29, 2021 15:58:40 GMT -5
Meanwhile Max Pacioretty continues his scoring ways. 32 goals last year and he's on a 40 goal pace this year over a full season and playing on maybe the best team in the league. Still a good trade for both sides, but not so much the slam dunk people thought it was. Tatar was a nice throw in but he could be gone this summer as a UFA and the jury is still out on Suzuki. Max plus Stone in Vegas. Max plus  in Montreal. There's a big difference in the supporting cast, and in the pressure of being the "C" and "the man". |
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Post by jkr on Apr 29, 2021 17:16:10 GMT -5
Well it's Bergevin's job to give his captain the supporting cast needed.
And wasn't Therien caught saying Pacioretty was the worst Montreal captain ever. I know he denied but , really, what else is he going to say. Who would want to stay in that environment?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 30, 2021 7:27:08 GMT -5
Calgary with a huge win against the Oil, 3-1 last night. They are four back with one more game played. But, they have a much easier schedule. Four of their seven are against the Nucks.
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Post by folatre on Apr 30, 2021 7:37:16 GMT -5
Yeah, Vancouver did not have much to begin with, but now they really look hard pressed to even compete most nights.
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Post by jkr on May 2, 2021 7:00:52 GMT -5
Vegas beat Arizona last night for their 11 win in 12 games. Fleury, with the win, hits 489 to tie Luongo for 3rd all time.
He's 23-10 with a 2.08 GAA and a 926 SP. He has really rebounded since last year and with a year left on his contract seems a cinch to hit 500 wins. Next up, Roy at 551.
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Post by folatre on May 4, 2021 9:36:41 GMT -5
Tom Wilson acting like a jerk last night against the Rangers. And I guess I get the indignation New York's coach displayed after the game. But watching the highlights, I am not really sure what the basis for suspending him would be. It was just a scrum and dudes wrestling around, and Wilson just happens to be the biggest guy in the scrum.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 4, 2021 10:01:49 GMT -5
Oilers clinch their spot behind a four point night (yawn) from McDavid. He has 91 points with six games left to crack the century mark. Incredible. You wonder if Tippett will rest his stars at all down the stretch. If not injured, these guys just love to play a lot, but you can understand if he sits guys for a game or two for a rest.
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Post by folatre on May 4, 2021 11:55:29 GMT -5
McDavid has like three more games against the porous Canucks so he probably hits 100 points before he gets to Montreal. I could see him resting in one of the games against the Habs.
Wilson got fined $5k. I hate to give Parros a compliment, but I think in this case they got it right. Wilson acted like a total jerk but if you suspend a guy for wrestling around in a scrum in front of the goalie then the league would be backing itself into a corner where suspensions would have to be handed out left and right.
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Post by Andrew on May 4, 2021 13:49:02 GMT -5
McDavid has like three more games against the porous Canucks so he probably hits 100 points before he gets to Montreal. I could see him resting in one of the games against the Habs. Wilson got fined $5k. I hate to give Parros a compliment, but I think in this case they got it right. Wilson acted like a total jerk but if you suspend a guy for wrestling around in a scrum in front of the goalie then the league would be backing itself into a corner where suspensions would have to be handed out left and right. I agree that there was no flagrant suspendable offense, but it doesn't sit well that an enforcer can end the season of a top 10 first line player with relative impunity. The league has never seemed overly interested in protecting its most valuable assets in terms of bringing in revenue. I saw a replay (link below) of the incident where it looks like he's pulling Panarin's hair while slamming him toward the ice head first with no helmet. Panarin is fortunate that his shoulder cushioned that blow, cause that was enough force to cause a serious brain injury. streamable.com/a1pnlo |
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Post by seventeen on May 4, 2021 14:14:21 GMT -5
Tom Wilson acting like a jerk last night against the Rangers. And I guess I get the indignation New York's coach displayed after the game. But watching the highlights, I am not really sure what the basis for suspending him would be. It was just a scrum and dudes wrestling around, and Wilson just happens to be the biggest guy in the scrum. I saw a tweet about that and while the video wasn't great, it did look like Wilson had a hold of the Ranger players hair (another reason to avoid long hair) with his left hand and was pulling his head down as they tussled. Pulling hair. Makes Wilson sound like a girl. (My apologies to anyone of the fairer sex who takes umbrage with that description). But if I was an opponent I would certainly troll him with that description, while getting ready to clip his knees at the next Caps game. |
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Post by folatre on May 4, 2021 15:10:15 GMT -5
Thornton elbowed in Perreault in the head, $5,000 USD, no problem. McDavid elbows Kotkaniemi in the face, $5K, whatever.
I am not being an apologist for Wilson, but if Parros does not give a flip about stuff that actually is suspendable according to the rulebook then it was obvious his office's take on a post-whistle scrum would be hey nothing to see here.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 4, 2021 16:40:01 GMT -5
Thornton elbowed in Perreault in the head, $5,000 USD, no problem. McDavid elbows Kotkaniemi in the face, $5K, whatever. I am not being an apologist for Wilson, but if Parros does not give a flip about stuff that actually is suspendable according to the rulebook then it was obvious his office's take on a post-whistle scrum would be hey nothing to see here. But if McDouchebag got an elbow in the head all hell would break loose... |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 4, 2021 16:41:55 GMT -5
Looks like Lucic has waived his NMC for the expansion draft... wants to move closer to home... I wonder how many BC based guys are going to do that... we have a couple on our team...
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Post by folatre on May 4, 2021 17:07:05 GMT -5
I am not sure Lucic actually wants to leave Calgary (at least he is saying all the right things about how he wants to stay), but he is doing a solid for the organization. The even more interesting tidbit is that the Flames are apparently (according to Eric Francis) not going to protect Giordano.
Giordano is the captain and has never played anywhere else. Plus, his contract is not all that onerous (1 year at a $6.25 AAV) because there is basically no term involved.
I have no idea about our BC guys. Weber should be a no-brainer to be exposed. Unlike Giordano, Weber's contract is onerous (5 years at a $7.857 AAV), so it would make Bergevin look like a big softie if Treveling exposes Giordano and he continues to pretend that Weber is worth his cap hit (Weber would have to be a top 20 d-man in the league to justify it).
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