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Eichel
Sept 22, 2021 6:43:38 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Sept 22, 2021 6:43:38 GMT -5
Surprised this has never been resolved. Trade value just can't be there. Or else Sabres moved Eichel. Much bad blood there.
Sounds like he is going to miss at least half of season
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Eichel
Sept 22, 2021 7:04:57 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Sept 22, 2021 7:04:57 GMT -5
I think when you hear words like neck injury and artificial disc, it scares the neck out of people. I know I wouldn't touch it.
It goes back to what folatre said a while ago. People have to see him healthy and playing before they will consider making an offer.
The season is only weeks away. Has he even had the surgery.
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Eichel
Sept 23, 2021 11:26:25 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Sept 23, 2021 11:26:25 GMT -5
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Eichel
Sept 23, 2021 16:08:25 GMT -5
Post by folatre on Sept 23, 2021 16:08:25 GMT -5
I doubt Eichel gives a flip about the captaincy with a club he never wants to play for again.
Buffalo and Arizona are going to be epically bad. I seriously wonder if either of the league's dumpster fires manage to hit 60 points. Teams like Columbus, Detroit, Anaheim, and San Jose are lousy but nothing like Buffalo and Arizona.
I have no idea how Kevyn Adams thinks better offers are coming down the road when Eichel is now likely to miss most of the season. And Buffalo cannot wait much longer because Eichel's full NMC kicks in on July 1, so it is not as though Adams has time on his side in this colossal clusterpuck.
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Eichel
Sept 24, 2021 10:21:58 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Sept 24, 2021 10:21:58 GMT -5
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Eichel
Sept 24, 2021 11:39:45 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Sept 24, 2021 11:39:45 GMT -5
I doubt Eichel gives a flip about the captaincy with a club he never wants to play for again. Buffalo and Arizona are going to be epically bad. I seriously wonder if either of the league's dumpster fires manage to hit 60 points. Teams like Columbus, Detroit, Anaheim, and San Jose are lousy but nothing like Buffalo and Arizona. I have no idea how Kevyn Adams thinks better offers are coming down the road when Eichel is now likely to miss most of the season. And Buffalo cannot wait much longer because Eichel's full NMC kicks in on July 1, so it is not as though Adams has time on his side in this colossal clusterpuck. Everybody trying for one of those top 3 picks. Not often that kind of skill is available. Savoie slated to go 3rd, would go first overall in average draft year. How you build a strong team though. Tampa, Toronto, Pittsburgh, Caps, Black Hawks, Bruins, they all did the same. Not must room for argument on its success. But takes awhile as some picks busts, Yakupov? Or don't work out Eichel? |
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Eichel
Sept 24, 2021 19:18:11 GMT -5
Post by Skilly on Sept 24, 2021 19:18:11 GMT -5
I doubt Eichel gives a flip about the captaincy with a club he never wants to play for again. Buffalo and Arizona are going to be epically bad. I seriously wonder if either of the league's dumpster fires manage to hit 60 points. Teams like Columbus, Detroit, Anaheim, and San Jose are lousy but nothing like Buffalo and Arizona. I have no idea how Kevyn Adams thinks better offers are coming down the road when Eichel is now likely to miss most of the season. And Buffalo cannot wait much longer because Eichel's full NMC kicks in on July 1, so it is not as though Adams has time on his side in this colossal clusterpuck. Over Under odds 2021-22 Season Anaheim Ducks – 70.5 Points Arizona Coyotes – 68.5 Points Boston Bruins – 103.5 Points Buffalo Sabres – 69.5 Points Calgary Flames – 90.5 Points Carolina Hurricanes – 96.5 Points Chicago Blackhawks – 91.5 Points Colorado Avalanche – 110.5 Points Columbus Blue Jackets – 76.5 Points Dallas Stars – 95.5 Points Detroit Red Wings – 77.5 Points Edmonton Oilers – 97.5 Points Florida Panthers – 101.5 Points Los Angeles Kings – 85.5 Points Minnesota Wild – 97.5 Points Montreal Canadiens – 89.5 Points Nashville Predators – 84.5 Points New Jersey Devils – 90.5 Points New York Islanders – 99.5 Points New York Rangers – 95.5 Points Ottawa Senators – 73.5 Points Philadelphia Flyers – 94.5 Points Pittsburgh Penguins – 98.5 Points San Jose Sharks – 83.5 Points Seattle Kraken – 92.5 Points St Louis Blues – 94.5 Points Tampa Bay Lightning – 108.5 Points Toronto Maple Leafs – 105.5 Points Vancouver Canucks – 88.5 Points Vegas Golden Knights – 106.5 Points Washington Capitals – 95.5 Points Winnipeg Jets – 92.5 Points |
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Eichel
Sept 24, 2021 21:14:27 GMT -5
Post by folatre on Sept 24, 2021 21:14:27 GMT -5
Interesting, a few things catch my eye:
How is Ottawa only four points better than Buffalo? That makes no sense in my estimation. Buffalo and Arizona seem like locks to fall short.
How is Minnesota five points better than Winnipeg in the Central? I would actually bet the Jets are better than the Wild.
The Flyers and the Penguins have pretty serious injury portfolios to start the season. Are they really good for the points predicted? I would say they come up a little short.
Montreal is worse than New Jersey and basically missing the playoffs by a country mile? It seems harsh but it could be more reality based than some people want to acknowledge. I mean, when was the last time Montreal made the playoffs in a normal 82 game Atlantic/Eastern Conference set-up?
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Eichel
Sept 25, 2021 5:43:35 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Sept 25, 2021 5:43:35 GMT -5
And Toronto only 3 points back of the back to back Cup champions?
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Eichel
Sept 25, 2021 12:44:00 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Sept 25, 2021 12:44:00 GMT -5
And Toronto only 3 points back of the back to back Cup champions? Leafs could break thru this year |
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Eichel
Sept 25, 2021 13:49:40 GMT -5
Post by folatre on Sept 25, 2021 13:49:40 GMT -5
Those guys are regular season heroes. They put up huge numbers. So it could be perfectly logical to see Toronto in the 105 point range and also entirely probable that the Leafs lose in the first round again.
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Eichel
Sept 26, 2021 1:45:25 GMT -5
Post by seventeen on Sept 26, 2021 1:45:25 GMT -5
Interesting, a few things catch my eye: How is Ottawa only four points better than Buffalo? That makes no sense in my estimation. Buffalo and Arizona seem like locks to fall short. How is Minnesota five points better than Winnipeg in the Central? I would actually bet the Jets are better than the Wild. The Flyers and the Penguins have pretty serious injury portfolios to start the season. Are they really good for the points predicted? I would say they come up a little short. Montreal is worse than New Jersey and basically missing the playoffs by a country mile? It seems harsh but it could be more reality based than some people want to acknowledge. I mean, when was the last time Montreal made the playoffs in a normal 82 game Atlantic/Eastern Conference set-up? Jersey is a real sleeper. Their defense corps is Doug Hamilton - Ryan Graves Damon Severson - Ty Smith PK Subban - (who knows, but Kevin Bahl is good prospect) That's a really solid defense group. Bernier and Blackwood are a very good goalie pair. We should know all about one guy called Tuna. Wing depth otherwise is weak, but if the two kid centres play to their abilities, it will be tough to contain them. A lot will depend on how Mercer and Holtz handle NHL competition. Still too early for them to contribute much, but the D and the goalies will win them a lot of games. |
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Eichel
Nov 4, 2021 7:27:34 GMT -5
Post by Tankdriver on Nov 4, 2021 7:27:34 GMT -5
The Eichel Saga has finally finished. As highly rumoured for months, it is Vegas that got him.
To Buffalo:
Peyton Krebs
Alex Tuch
1st Round Pick 2022
2nd Round Pick 2023
To Vegas:
Eichel
3rd Round Pick 2023
Eichel will get the surgery very soon.
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Eichel
Nov 4, 2021 8:06:18 GMT -5
Post by Habit on Nov 4, 2021 8:06:18 GMT -5
The Eichel Saga has finally finished. As highly rumoured for months, it is Vegas that got him. To Buffalo: Peyton Krebs Alex Tuch 1st Round Pick 20223rd Round Pick 2023 To Vegas: Eichel 3rd Round Pick 2023 Eichel will get the surgery very soon. According to Darren D, the 1st round pick is top 10 protected. Interesting  |
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Eichel
Nov 4, 2021 8:13:58 GMT -5
Post by folatre on Nov 4, 2021 8:13:58 GMT -5
That is a rather soft return for a young superstar franchise centre who still has five more seasons on his current contract. Reading between the lines, I suppose that suggests the appetite for risk among potential trade partners was not particularly robust.
Tuch is basically Josh Anderson, a nice power forward but not a guy who is going to put up big offensive numbers. Krebs is only six months younger than Kotkaniemi, has played 13 games in the NHL, and frankly looks like he probably needs to spend most of this season in the AHL. Maybe the 2022 first rounder could be a nice piece, but knowing Vegas they probably right the ship and the pick ends up being in the 20s.
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Eichel
Nov 4, 2021 9:16:48 GMT -5
Post by Tankdriver on Nov 4, 2021 9:16:48 GMT -5
That is a rather soft return for a young superstar franchise centre who still has five more seasons on his current contract. Reading between the lines, I suppose that suggests the appetite for risk among potential trade partners was not particularly robust. Tuch is basically Josh Anderson, a nice power forward but not a guy who is going to put up big offensive numbers. Krebs is only six months younger than Kotkaniemi, has played 13 games in the NHL, and frankly looks like he probably needs to spend most of this season in the AHL. Maybe the 2022 first rounder could be a nice piece, but knowing Vegas they probably right the ship and the pick ends up being in the 20s. I agreee based on last years team, it is basically, KK, Anderson, a first and a second. I would of done that trade. |
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Eichel
Nov 12, 2021 23:39:20 GMT -5
Post by Cranky on Nov 12, 2021 23:39:20 GMT -5
That is a rather soft return for a young superstar franchise centre who still has five more seasons on his current contract. Reading between the lines, I suppose that suggests the appetite for risk among potential trade partners was not particularly robust. Tuch is basically Josh Anderson, a nice power forward but not a guy who is going to put up big offensive numbers. Krebs is only six months younger than Kotkaniemi, has played 13 games in the NHL, and frankly looks like he probably needs to spend most of this season in the AHL. Maybe the 2022 first rounder could be a nice piece, but knowing Vegas they probably right the ship and the pick ends up being in the 20s. NOWHERE near the return that the Sabres wanted. Given that there is no guarantee that Eichel will be the old Eichel and his game can return that injury, a low return was expected. Could we of done it? Yes, but pre-KK circus. In fact, I'm 90% sure that the trade had him front and center and thus his bolting. These trades and names are not top military secrets. It would be normal that one GM would say "the yare offering me x,y adn z" to another GM, which then exposes the probability that the second GM leaks it deliberately to cause issues and swing the trade to his favour. One thing is beyond certain.....the NHL and some fans want to believe that the NHL are Santa's step children and they all play nice, but unless we believe in Santa too, human nature is human nature and the obvious is the most likely outcome. |
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Eichel
Nov 13, 2021 5:58:06 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Nov 13, 2021 5:58:06 GMT -5
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