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Post by Doc Holliday on May 18, 2007 13:04:32 GMT -5
How is that for a teaser? ...the anxious crowd awaits
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Post by BadCompany on May 18, 2007 14:13:45 GMT -5
LOL! Yeah, of that I’m sure!
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Post by Bob on May 18, 2007 14:39:24 GMT -5
I won't quote your entire post but you did touch on one main topic. He wanted to play for Quebec and only Quebec. Instead of just saying that he lied .... Our (Fog Devil) scouts talked to him and the season ticket holders here were told "He said don't draft me because there is no way I am playing in the Q" So you are an expansion franchise, do you waste a pick and draft a guy whose sole goal was to scare teams away, or do you go to the next BPA so you can get bodies in the stands. Angelo's QMJHL career started in controversy. He was considered a possible first overall draft choice in the QMJHL, but told all general managers that he would never play in the QMJHL, but instead for the NCAA. Just minutes before the Val d'Or Foreurs draft choice, the Quebec Remparts announced that they had traded several players and draft choices to get the Foreurs' draft pick, which was slated at 11th overall. Despite his overwhelming talent and potential, Angelo was passed over by QMJHL general managers because of his previous announcement that he would play in the collegiate system. He was subsequently drafted by the Remparts. A couple weeks later, Angelo and the Remparts agreed to an arrangement, allowing him to play for them the next year.What your are saying is that as a 16 year old, was wily enough to manipulate the entire QMJHL. Gotta love smart hockey players. If the Sea Dogs had done their homework as Roy did, they could have drafted Espo and then traded him. If you want to make comparisons, that is what Quebec did with Lindros and it turned them (and subsequently Colorado) into a powerhouse for years.
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Post by habmeister on May 18, 2007 16:20:02 GMT -5
I won't quote your entire post but you did touch on one main topic. He wanted to play for Quebec and only Quebec. Instead of just saying that he lied .... Our (Fog Devil) scouts talked to him and the season ticket holders here were told "He said don't draft me because there is no way I am playing in the Q" So you are an expansion franchise, do you waste a pick and draft a guy whose sole goal was to scare teams away, or do you go to the next BPA so you can get bodies in the stands. Angelo's QMJHL career started in controversy. He was considered a possible first overall draft choice in the QMJHL, but told all general managers that he would never play in the QMJHL, but instead for the NCAA. Just minutes before the Val d'Or Foreurs draft choice, the Quebec Remparts announced that they had traded several players and draft choices to get the Foreurs' draft pick, which was slated at 11th overall. Despite his overwhelming talent and potential, Angelo was passed over by QMJHL general managers because of his previous announcement that he would play in the collegiate system. He was subsequently drafted by the Remparts. A couple weeks later, Angelo and the Remparts agreed to an arrangement, allowing him to play for them the next year.What your are saying is that as a 16 year old, was wily enough to manipulate the entire QMJHL. Gotta love smart hockey players. If the Sea Dogs had done their homework as Roy did, they could have drafted Espo and then traded him. If you want to make comparisons, that is what Quebec did with Lindros and it turned them (and subsequently Colorado) into a powerhouse for years. why bother having the draft at all then, just make them all free agents like Tier 2.
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Post by maritimer1 on May 19, 2007 12:28:52 GMT -5
Pretty big risk to take for the 1st draft pic in franchise history don't you think? draft him to trade him to the only team he was interested in playing for? I think Roy would have had the Saint John GM by the short curlies.
Quebec had more to offer that SJ couldn't match - bigger market, competitive team, chance to work with Patrick Roy, closer to home, francophone city. All Saint John had to offer was McCain's chequebook and icetime, oh and the chance to play for an expansion team.
But isn't the draft supposed to be left to the teams to pick the players and not vice versa?
The problem right now with the Q is some francophone players don't want to play in the east and some anglophones don't want to play in Quebec. This is causing all the crap going around.
Having seen him play a few times I think he is overrated. His numbers are down this year because he didn't have Radulov and Melanson. Sure he didn't play with those guys every night but he saw them on the PP and who do you think drew the best pair of defense from the other team? I don't think Espo progressed this year going from being under the radar to the main attraction. Smells like Ribeiro to me.
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Post by seventeen on May 19, 2007 12:50:53 GMT -5
Given the current Habs scouting group, I wold think they'd have a handle on whether Angelo's abilities are his own or if he benefited from the skills of others. I keep remembering BJ McDonald's 40 goal season in the NHL and Glen Sather putting it in perspective by noting that a fire hydrant could get 40 goals a year playing on Gretzky's wing. That Sather, what a people person.
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Post by Anardil1 on May 19, 2007 18:01:55 GMT -5
It's time to end a common misconception about Esposito. He is not a francophone. He does speak French however. He grew up in NDG (most English part of Montreal) played his hockey in the NDG minor hockey association. He probably isn't even an anglo since Italian is probably his mother tongue. Back on topic. I hope the Habs don't trade up to pick Esposito. If he's still around at 12, then maybe pick him. (depending of course on who is still available) Having seen him play the past 2 seasons, I feel that he's a talent that needs to be surrounded by superior players to produce consistently. Just look at his seasons with Radulov and without.
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Post by Anardil1 on May 19, 2007 18:51:55 GMT -5
Just posting this after watching the first 2 games of the Memorial Cup. Here are some things I noticed about some draft eligible players participating in the Tourney.
-Jonathon Blum, D, Vancouver: Smallish defenseman. At his best when manning the point creating scoring chances. I didn't notice him much in his own end. Seems to skate well, but not overly fast.
-David Perron, F, Lewiston: Smallish forward. Sometimes plays centre, sometimes RW. Supremely skilled but slow and weak. This kid can dangle with the best of them no doubt. Created a few chances deking the jock off opposing defensemen. Without the puck, he's the Invisible Man. Right now IMO, he IS the Ribeiro clone of this draft class. Not Esposito.
-Michal Repik, RW, Vancouver: What happened to this kid? Last year he looked really solid at the Memorial Cup. I think I heard his name 3 times during yesterday's game.
-Kevin Marshall, D, Lewiston: Didn't really notice him. Not a bad thing really since he's considered a defensive d-man.
-Spencer Machacek: Not flashy, but just gets the job done. Not a great skater, not overly big, not overly skilled. This kid has good hockey sense and works all the time. Gritty and always goes to the front of the net. I'd like the Habs to grab him if he's available in the 2nd or 3rd round. He won't go later IMO.
I really didn't notice anyone else. Please feel free to add anything that I missed.
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Post by habmeister on May 19, 2007 20:54:13 GMT -5
Blum you nailed it, he's small, good skater but not super wheels, he's still growing, talked to him today at game and you'd swear he was 15-16. perron i tried to watch him closely today, great moves, very shifty and skilled, average skater for someone his size. what i didn't like was when he wasn't given the puck by one of his teammates he slammed his stick on the ice as he skated off. repik was one of the giants better players yesterday, not sure if you can see the same thing on tv as live, but he fed lucic for both of his goals, he was physical and was the 3rd star. marshall was solid but like you said he's a stay at homer so you don't notice him. machacek i've been watching for 3 years now and he's come into his own this playoff run, really hard worker, not the best skater and that may be what keeps him from ever going past junior, but great hockey sense and a good lead by example type player. he's ranked to go in 2nd round, i think i commented a month or two ago that i'd like the habs to consider him in the 2nd round and now he's there with the latest csb rankings.
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Post by Anardil1 on May 20, 2007 16:59:56 GMT -5
You're right H&C. I must have confused Repik with someone else. I should keep the beers to a minimum until AFTER the game! A little off topic now. Was it you that said that the Habs should' ve drafted Lucic instead of Maxwell H&C? I'm really liking Lucic this year. I'm also really liking Chad Denny from Lewiston. This guy has a rocket from the point and can actually play some d. He's listed at 6'2'' and 227 lbs. On the telecast the announcers are saying he's actually closer t 250! The kid is a decent skater as well.
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Post by seventeen on May 20, 2007 18:17:26 GMT -5
I'm also really liking Chad Denny from Lewiston. This guy has a rocket from the point and can actually play some d. He's listed at 6'2'' and 227 lbs. On the telecast the announcers are saying he's actually closer t 250! The kid is a decent skater as well. Already drafted in 05 by Atlanta, but yes, he's an interesting prospect. Reminds me of Souray (the kiss of death).
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Post by Anardil1 on May 20, 2007 21:54:42 GMT -5
I'm also really liking Chad Denny from Lewiston. This guy has a rocket from the point and can actually play some d. He's listed at 6'2'' and 227 lbs. On the telecast the announcers are saying he's actually closer t 250! The kid is a decent skater as well. Already drafted in 05 by Atlanta, but yes, he's an interesting prospect. Reminds me of Souray (the kiss of death). I'm aware that he was already drafted. I was just stating that I really like what he's showing at the Memorial Cup. Just like I mentioned my admiration for Milan Lucic's game this year.
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Post by habmeister on May 20, 2007 23:25:11 GMT -5
it sure was, i started liking lucic during the first month of his career in the whl and i told my agent buddy to lock him up. sure enough he was a solid scrapper last year, and showed good signs of being a power forward, but this season he really stepped up.
lucic is strong enough to play at the nhl level now, he is great with the puck, good passer, hard worker, great leader, smart kid, top 3 whl heavyweight, giants regular season mvp, and oh yeah did i mention 30 goals and the fact that he'll fight anyone??
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Post by Anardil1 on May 27, 2007 16:43:10 GMT -5
Just watching the Memorial Cup Final. The more I watch, the more I want the Habs to grab Spencer Machacek. This kid's motor is always running high, hitting, creating scoring chances for himself and his linemates. He's rated 99th in Cup's free Draft Preview. 67th in Mckeen's latest Draft issue. And 65th in THN's Draft Preview. IMHO, he will never produce big numbers, but I smile seeing a future combo of Chipchura centering Machacek on the right, shutting down other teams and creating offense to boot. Get him Trevor with our second or third rounder.
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Post by habmeister on May 27, 2007 19:00:33 GMT -5
Just watching the Memorial Cup Final. The more I watch, the more I want the Habs to grab Spencer Machacek. This kid's motor is always running high, hitting, creating scoring chances for himself and his linemates. He's rated 99th in Cup's free Draft Preview. 67th in Mckeen's latest Draft issue. And 65th in THN's Draft Preview. IMHO, he will never produce big numbers, but I smile seeing a future combo of Chipchura centering Machacek on the right, shutting down other teams and creating offense to boot. Get him Trevor with our second or third rounder. i love spencer, and have seen him play about 50-60 games, he is a hard worker, never takes a shift off. but he needs to work on his skating, especially his first 2 steps, they're not great and that would hurt in the ahl/nhl. i think he may go in the 2nd round though.
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Post by chief6 on Jun 1, 2007 12:58:51 GMT -5
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Post by HFTO on Jun 2, 2007 12:19:11 GMT -5
Well since I'm making the road trip to Columbus I'm anxiously anticipating some action. I think the Habs should roll the dice on Espo, if he's a player the buzz along with that of Lat's would be worth getting excited over.Should the Habs trade way up could they pass on Ganger whom played so well with Kots Sr. I'd take that scenario also. As well as the Habs have done they still have to push the envelope drafting to get this train over the top.The thing is they do need D -men. HFTO
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Post by Skilly on Jun 2, 2007 19:22:37 GMT -5
Well since I'm making the road trip to Columbus I'm anxiously anticipating some action. I think the Habs should roll the dice on Espo, if he's a player the buzz along with that of Lat's would be worth getting excited over.Should the Habs trade way up could they pass on Ganger whom played so well with Kots Sr. I'd take that scenario also. As well as the Habs have done they still have to push the envelope drafting to get this train over the top.The thing is they do need D -men. HFTO The Habs seem to like passing on players named "Gagner". Espo can win me over if he is "all that and a bag of chips" ..... I just want someone who is going to help us win and not rot in the minors.
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Post by habmeister on Jun 2, 2007 21:31:10 GMT -5
at this point from what i've seen and i can only evaluate players i've seen i'd like us to take a flyer on ellerby. reminds me of a willie mitchell type with his height, although taller than willie and with more offensive flair of course. i reserve the right to change my pick, but from i've seen of the top 30 prospects and i've probably seen about 10 of them, of the ones i've seen and the ones that are ranked 8-20 ellerby is the guy i'd take. youtube.com/watch?v=rWsUgWuja5w
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Post by Anardil1 on Jun 3, 2007 21:45:34 GMT -5
Well since I'm making the road trip to Columbus I'm anxiously anticipating some action. I think the Habs should roll the dice on Espo, if he's a player the buzz along with that of Lat's would be worth getting excited over.Should the Habs trade way up could they pass on Ganger whom played so well with Kots Sr. I'd take that scenario also. As well as the Habs have done they still have to push the envelope drafting to get this train over the top.The thing is they do need D -men. HFTO The Habs seem to like passing on players named "Gagner". Espo can win me over if he is "all that and a bag of chips" ..... I just want someone who is going to help us win and not rot in the minors. Who exactly has been rotting in the minors lately?
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Post by habmeister on Jun 4, 2007 0:15:55 GMT -5
The Habs seem to like passing on players named "Gagner". Espo can win me over if he is "all that and a bag of chips" ..... I just want someone who is going to help us win and not rot in the minors. Who exactly has been rotting in the minors lately? traverse recently was rotting in the minors....what does rotting mean? i think skilly means that we have some vets that are taking spots that young guys should be taking.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 4, 2007 5:55:52 GMT -5
The Habs seem to like passing on players named "Gagner". Espo can win me over if he is "all that and a bag of chips" ..... I just want someone who is going to help us win and not rot in the minors. Who exactly has been rotting in the minors lately? That depends on what you mean by "lately". We had Hainsey and Hossa in recent memory. But looking at our current Bulldog roster, there is one name that jumps right out at you .... a certain Mr. Corey Locke. Two time OHL player of the year, leading scorer on the farm, and still not good enough for even a cup of coffee with the parent club. How about Cote? For all our defensive woes, he isn't given a chance to show he is better than what we have. When I say "rot in the minors" I am alluding to the fact that it is an unwritten policy in the Habs organization that prospects must put the mandatory 4 yr stay in the minors. Besides Guilliame Latendresse, who was our last prospect to join the club before he was 23-24? Desjardins and maybe Petr Svoboda? IMO, our prospects see that promotion from within is almost impossible in this organization and that "takes the good out of them", and they end up being viewed as busts until another organization is willing to take a chance on them. So we don't trade them for assests we need, and we don't let them play on the big-club .... to me that is rotting.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 4, 2007 6:48:05 GMT -5
[Besides Guilliame Latendresse, who was our last prospect to join the club before he was 23-24? Desjardins and maybe Petr Svoboda? Mike Ribeiro. I hear you about rotting though. Côté is the perfect example IMO. If I'm not mistaken, we can't send him to Hamilton next year without waiving him so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see this guy end up in the NHL on an another team. We are having EXTREME difficulties raising dmen in this organization, only those with evident top 4 talent make it and still...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 4, 2007 8:02:21 GMT -5
Who exactly has been rotting in the minors lately? That depends on what you mean by "lately". We had Hainsey and Hossa in recent memory. But looking at our current Bulldog roster, there is one name that jumps right out at you .... a certain Mr. Corey Locke. Two time OHL player of the year, leading scorer on the farm, and still not good enough for even a cup of coffee with the parent club. How about Cote? For all our defensive woes, he isn't given a chance to show he is better than what we have. When I say "rot in the minors" I am alluding to the fact that it is an unwritten policy in the Habs organization that prospects must put the mandatory 4 yr stay in the minors. Besides Guilliame Latendresse, who was our last prospect to join the club before he was 23-24? Desjardins and maybe Petr Svoboda? IMO, our prospects see that promotion from within is almost impossible in this organization and that "takes the good out of them", and they end up being viewed as busts until another organization is willing to take a chance on them. So we don't trade them for assests we need, and we don't let them play on the big-club .... to me that is rotting. I think the last time we saw an influx of youth injected into the club prior to Gainey taking over, was when Houle was running the show. The two scenarios are different though. Gainey made a conscious decision to promote the youth, while Houle wouldn't have if it weren't for the amount of injuries to his club. As for the club's policy on rookies, that seemed to be changing until the new cap was introduced. I'm sure Gainey was on track to promote some of the players in Hamilton, but now he's committed to getting his money's worth out of the players he has. That's the way I see it anyway. Things were great when every GM could cut and paste their lineups when necessary. Nowadays you're committed to the players you've signed and drafted. Blame Gainey? Sure, a bit. But Savard can take some of that accountability too. Cheers.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 4, 2007 9:34:55 GMT -5
[Besides Guilliame Latendresse, who was our last prospect to join the club before he was 23-24? Desjardins and maybe Petr Svoboda? Mike Ribeiro. I thought about him ... and was going to include him as one of the ones we let play. But then I thought about it. He played for the Habs for 19 games as a 19 yr old, then bounced up and down from the AHL to the NHL for 4 seasons until he played he first "full" (52 games) season as a 23 yr old. Not exactly letting him play, IMO. Then we gave up on him when he was reaching his prime .... so I placed him in the "rotting prospect that we gave up on pile".
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Post by Anardil1 on Jun 4, 2007 19:28:34 GMT -5
Who exactly has been rotting in the minors lately? That depends on what you mean by "lately". We had Hainsey and Hossa in recent memory. But looking at our current Bulldog roster, there is one name that jumps right out at you .... a certain Mr. Corey Locke. Two time OHL player of the year, leading scorer on the farm, and still not good enough for even a cup of coffee with the parent club. How about Cote? For all our defensive woes, he isn't given a chance to show he is better than what we have. When I say "rot in the minors" I am alluding to the fact that it is an unwritten policy in the Habs organization that prospects must put the mandatory 4 yr stay in the minors. Besides Guilliame Latendresse, who was our last prospect to join the club before he was 23-24? Desjardins and maybe Petr Svoboda? IMO, our prospects see that promotion from within is almost impossible in this organization and that "takes the good out of them", and they end up being viewed as busts until another organization is willing to take a chance on them. So we don't trade them for assests we need, and we don't let them play on the big-club .... to me that is rotting. Quite a list you compiled there... Let's see, Hainsey: Attitude problems kept him in the minors. I can recall 1 time SportsNet showed a Bulldogs game. They interviewed Hainsey during an intermission where he stated he didn't know why he was in the minors. Also he hasn't really proven that he's anything more than a fringe NHLer, no big loss. Hossa: He had plenty of chances to show what he could do. He'd look great... until the 10th game, when he'd disappear back to uselessness. Now in New York he's showing that he could be a useful 3rd-4th liner... When he decides to show up. Corey Locke??!! You're kidding right? What exactly has he shown before this year's playoffs to deserve even a cup of coffee with the Habs? He's deserved to rot in the minors up till now. He could get a shot next year because he's finally showing signs of being a player. Next... Ah yes, Cote. You might not remember, but he was slated to be the #7 d-man at the start of the year, only to miss out due to injuries. In fact his was one of the injuries that brought on the unfortunate Ninny-Ribs trade. IMHO this unwritten rule is now fiction. It existed in the past due to the Dynasty era teams being just too stacked a for a rookie to make it. Recently there haven't been any young'uns worthy of getting a shot past the 10 game mark of the season.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 4, 2007 21:47:24 GMT -5
That depends on what you mean by "lately". We had Hainsey and Hossa in recent memory. But looking at our current Bulldog roster, there is one name that jumps right out at you .... a certain Mr. Corey Locke. Two time OHL player of the year, leading scorer on the farm, and still not good enough for even a cup of coffee with the parent club. How about Cote? For all our defensive woes, he isn't given a chance to show he is better than what we have. When I say "rot in the minors" I am alluding to the fact that it is an unwritten policy in the Habs organization that prospects must put the mandatory 4 yr stay in the minors. Besides Guilliame Latendresse, who was our last prospect to join the club before he was 23-24? Desjardins and maybe Petr Svoboda? IMO, our prospects see that promotion from within is almost impossible in this organization and that "takes the good out of them", and they end up being viewed as busts until another organization is willing to take a chance on them. So we don't trade them for assests we need, and we don't let them play on the big-club .... to me that is rotting. Quite a list you compiled there... Let's see, Hainsey: Attitude problems kept him in the minors. I can recall 1 time SportsNet showed a Bulldogs game. They interviewed Hainsey during an intermission where he stated he didn't know why he was in the minors. Also he hasn't really proven that he's anything more than a fringe NHLer, no big loss. Hossa: He had plenty of chances to show what he could do. He'd look great... until the 10th game, when he'd disappear back to uselessness. Now in New York he's showing that he could be a useful 3rd-4th liner... When he decides to show up. Corey Locke??!! You're kidding right? What exactly has he shown before this year's playoffs to deserve even a cup of coffee with the Habs? He's deserved to rot in the minors up till now. He could get a shot next year because he's finally showing signs of being a player. Next... Ah yes, Cote. You might not remember, but he was slated to be the #7 d-man at the start of the year, only to miss out due to injuries. In fact his was one of the injuries that brought on the unfortunate Ninny-Ribs trade. IMHO this unwritten rule is now fiction. It existed in the past due to the Dynasty era teams being just too stacked a for a rookie to make it. Recently there haven't been any young'uns worthy of getting a shot past the 10 game mark of the season. There is more to it than players not getting a chance to play. It is wasted picks. Recently, the team hasn't been good enough to have the luxury of keeping potential in the minors, unless you are happy finishing 8th and 9th every year. What has Corey Locke shown? Ohhh led the team last year in points, second this year in points, and was fourth in points in his first season on the team. Corey Locke leads all of our prospects in scoring, every single one, in the AHL. I wasn't attempting to complie an exhaustive list .... just to show that we had NHL caliper players that we gave up on, by leaving in the minors and basically got nothing for them. Again this is by no means a complete list but off the top of my head .... Beauchemin, Ward, Asham, Hainsey, Hossa ....were all snatched from our minor system for basically free. Milroy will be added to that list (and probably Ferland). Obviously, there are no superstars. But there are solid NHL players that other teams had no problem putting on their rosters.
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Post by Anardil1 on Jun 4, 2007 22:34:49 GMT -5
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue. The only one you mentioned who truly merits to be filed under wasted away ( and hurt the big club ) is Beauchemin. All the others mentioned, don't miss them and IMHO they have all been passed by better prospects. And as I've said before, the presumed tradition is now passed. Especially in the new salary capped NHL. In the past 2-3 seasons many prospects have either got a taste of the Big Leagues or grabbed a full time spot. Higgins, Plekanec, Latendresse, Lapierre, Kosty Sr. I think that this is the new reality. Also this needs to be pointed out, most of the prospects that are getting the real shots happen to be the ones picked during the Gainey-Timmins regime.
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 5, 2007 8:23:16 GMT -5
How is that for a teaser? ...the anxious crowd awaits Stupid Golden Gophers. Went and screwed up my mock draft. .... "Stupid Golden Gophers. Went and screwed up my mock draft??" If this was World War II, that could possibly mean the invasion is on. Its true, sports does have a language all its own...
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Post by habmeister on Jun 5, 2007 11:28:53 GMT -5
Quite a list you compiled there... Let's see, Hainsey: Attitude problems kept him in the minors. I can recall 1 time SportsNet showed a Bulldogs game. They interviewed Hainsey during an intermission where he stated he didn't know why he was in the minors. Also he hasn't really proven that he's anything more than a fringe NHLer, no big loss. Hossa: He had plenty of chances to show what he could do. He'd look great... until the 10th game, when he'd disappear back to uselessness. Now in New York he's showing that he could be a useful 3rd-4th liner... When he decides to show up. Corey Locke??!! You're kidding right? What exactly has he shown before this year's playoffs to deserve even a cup of coffee with the Habs? He's deserved to rot in the minors up till now. He could get a shot next year because he's finally showing signs of being a player. Next... Ah yes, Cote. You might not remember, but he was slated to be the #7 d-man at the start of the year, only to miss out due to injuries. In fact his was one of the injuries that brought on the unfortunate Ninny-Ribs trade. IMHO this unwritten rule is now fiction. It existed in the past due to the Dynasty era teams being just too stacked a for a rookie to make it. Recently there haven't been any young'uns worthy of getting a shot past the 10 game mark of the season. There is more to it than players not getting a chance to play. It is wasted picks. Recently, the team hasn't been good enough to have the luxury of keeping potential in the minors, unless you are happy finishing 8th and 9th every year. What has Corey Locke shown? Ohhh led the team last year in points, second this year in points, and was fourth in points in his first season on the team. Corey Locke leads all of our prospects in scoring, every single one, in the AHL. I wasn't attempting to complie an exhaustive list .... just to show that we had NHL caliper players that we gave up on, by leaving in the minors and basically got nothing for them. Again this is by no means a complete list but off the top of my head .... Beauchemin, Ward, Asham, Hainsey, Hossa ....were all snatched from our minor system for basically free. Milroy will be added to that list (and probably Ferland). Obviously, there are no superstars. But there are solid NHL players that other teams had no problem putting on their rosters. devil's advocate might say that it shows we have good depth when we have players not good enough for our team that can fill out weaker teams rosters.
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