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Post by seventeen on Nov 3, 2022 12:55:42 GMT -5
How long ago was it?....2, 3 years?, I threw out the suggestion that the Leafs, in order to resolve their CAP situation, should trade Auston Matthews. Looking back on Matthew's teams track records, it was never good. For a guy with those attributes, there was no trail of championships behind him. In hindsight, they could have had a haul for him. They could have gotten that elite young dman to complement Reilly, a second centre and some gritty depth. Teams would be foolishly falling over themselves to pick up Matthews. That time, and a few more first round exits, have passed but I'd still do it if I was Dubas. I honestly don't think you'd get a ton of fan pushback, especially if the team's balance was improved. They'd still have Tavares, Marner and Nylander, plus the harvest from the trade.
Let's say the Leafs and Kings get together. You could pick up (or try to pick up) Gabe Villardi, Brandt Clarke, Adrian Kempe, Arthur Kaliyev and whatever. Clarke's injured right now, but he had gotten off to a good start. Or maybe there's other options, other teams. You might gain on CAP space and definitely gain on team balance and culture.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 3, 2022 13:56:58 GMT -5
What a creampuff matthews is, he wouldn't mix it up with that heavyweight Konecky... all 5'10" 175lbs of him but he'll spear him and give him a shot... Check out the commentary ... Great post and good on Rupp. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 3, 2022 14:00:55 GMT -5
How long ago was it?....2, 3 years?, I threw out the suggestion that the Leafs, in order to resolve their CAP situation, should trade Auston Matthews. Looking back on Matthew's teams track records, it was never good. For a guy with those attributes, there was no trail of championships behind him. In hindsight, they could have had a haul for him. They could have gotten that elite young dman to complement Reilly, a second centre and some gritty depth. Teams would be foolishly falling over themselves to pick up Matthews. That time, and a few more first round exits, have passed but I'd still do it if I was Dubas. I honestly don't think you'd get a ton of fan pushback, especially if the team's balance was improved. They'd still have Tavares, Marner and Nylander, plus the harvest from the trade. Let's say the Leafs and Kings get together. You could pick up (or try to pick up) Gabe Villardi, Brandt Clarke, Adrian Kempe, Arthur Kaliyev and whatever. Clarke's injured right now, but he had gotten off to a good start. Or maybe there's other options, other teams. You might gain on CAP space and definitely gain on team balance and culture. The issue is if we can see it, GMs can see it, the leafs might move him but with that cap hit, his free agency coming up and his astounding lack of leadership, who is going to empty the bank for him... the leafs will get something but not as much as everyone thinks. |
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Post by jkr on Nov 3, 2022 17:50:16 GMT -5
Anybody watch the Sabres game last night. They were wearing their retro uniforms last night - white jerseys with white pants. Not a god look.
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 4, 2022 7:35:06 GMT -5
Check out the commentary ... Great post and good on Rupp. I recall a sequence from early in the 1st Round, 2021. Surprised to find it on YouTube. Chiarot is ticked at Matthews for something...tries to engage him...and Matthews just laughs at the officials, as if to say, "Seriously?! You guys are gonna allow this to happen to me?!" |
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Post by folatre on Nov 4, 2022 10:07:17 GMT -5
Anybody watch the Sabres game last night. They were wearing their retro uniforms last night - white jerseys with white pants. Not a god look. Jeje, I saw those. White hockey pants are just so bad. |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 4, 2022 11:48:32 GMT -5
Thanks for posting, Dis. Rupp certainly hits the nail on the head. I wasn't able to articulate what it was that I didn't like about Matthews on this play until I heard his commentary. Because it's true... when you have a 60 goal season under your belt, you've earned the right to not have to fight. On the other hand, your body language shouldn't reek of entitlement. I wonder what its like in the Toronto dressing room. Who are the real leaders? Because I have a hard time believing that an entire room of grown men are willing to follow the lead of the entitled prima donnas. The dressing room would be my concern, Froz ... how do you follow a captain who can't stick up for himself, and relies on his teammates to go through the wall for him ... I'm not sure Matthews is the right leader to take them to the Promise Land ... Cheers. Matthews isn’t the captain though … I have a hard time believing that team takes him seriously in any capacity (captain , alternate captain, vocal in the dressing room) just based on his fashion choices. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 4, 2022 11:51:32 GMT -5
The dressing room would be my concern, Froz ... how do you follow a captain who can't stick up for himself, and relies on his teammates to go through the wall for him ... I'm not sure Matthews is the right leader to take them to the Promise Land ... Cheers. Matthews isn’t the captain though … I have a hard time believing that team takes him seriously in any capacity (captain , alternate captain, vocal in the dressing room) just based on his fashion choices. Thanks, Skilly ... that was a Dissian slip, OM ... I knew he was wearing an "A" but my fingers had other ideas ... sigh ... Cheers, mate. |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 4, 2022 11:52:26 GMT -5
I would like to know how this wasn’t Third Man In, twice ! |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 4, 2022 14:10:46 GMT -5
Matthews isn’t the captain though … I have a hard time believing that team takes him seriously in any capacity (captain , alternate captain, vocal in the dressing room) just based on his fashion choices. Thanks, Skilly ... that was a Dissian slip, OM ... I knew he was wearing an "A" but my fingers had other ideas ... sigh ... Cheers, mate. Regardless of the letter, the intent of your post was clear, Dis. Does he provide any leadership at all? If he scores important goals, clutch goals, he might be given some leeway for his lack of "fight" because he's fighting back on the scoreboard. Trouble is, he doesn't have a history of that either, at least not when the rubber hits the road in the playoffs. One stat the NBA records that the NHL doesn't and that's points in crunch time, which I believe they consider the last 5 minutes of the game. It's not perfect because points at 6:59 of the 4th quarter don't count and 2 seconds later they do, but it sure is better than nothing. Youd have to tweak it for hockey. In a blowout, the stars in the NBA are on the bench while in hockey they aren't so Matthews (for example  ) might score late while in baskeetball, Lebron James wouldn't be. And I'd discount empty net goals too. But you get the point. It might help pick out guys who lift their game when it counts and not just guys who pad their stats. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 4, 2022 14:36:01 GMT -5
I would like to know how this wasn’t Third Man In, twice ! Matthews is such a douche... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 4, 2022 14:47:27 GMT -5
Thanks, Skilly ... that was a Dissian slip, OM ... I knew he was wearing an "A" but my fingers had other ideas ... sigh ... Cheers, mate. Regardless of the letter, the intent of your post was clear, Dis. Does he provide any leadership at all? If he scores important goals, clutch goals, he might be given some leeway for his lack of "fight" because he's fighting back on the scoreboard. Trouble is, he doesn't have a history of that either, at least not when the rubber hits the road in the playoffs. One stat the NBA records that the NHL doesn't and that's points in crunch time, which I believe they consider the last 5 minutes of the game. It's not perfect because points at 6:59 of the 4th quarter don't count and 2 seconds later they do, but it sure is better than nothing. Youd have to tweak it for hockey. In a blowout, the stars in the NBA are on the bench while in hockey they aren't so Matthews (for example ) might score late while in baskeetball, Lebron James wouldn't be. And I'd discount empty net goals too. But you get the point. It might help pick out guys who lift their game when it counts and not just guys who pad their stats. How about crunch time: goals scored in the last 2 minutes of either of the 1st 2 periods or Goals scored the last 5 minutes of the 3rd period where the goal differential is 2 or less |
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Post by jkr on Nov 5, 2022 17:51:52 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Nov 5, 2022 20:47:40 GMT -5
Flyers beat Sens. Pressure is mounting for Dorion to acquire Dvorak. They need to find another centre.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 5, 2022 20:51:21 GMT -5
Yeah. Sweeney, Neely and Jacobs show their inner character. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 5, 2022 23:33:53 GMT -5
... nice to see an old-fashioned hip check ...
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 6, 2022 8:23:06 GMT -5
I assume the parade is back on in torranna after the leafs beat the Bruins.
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Post by folatre on Nov 6, 2022 9:06:33 GMT -5
Inevitably Matthews was going to heat up. So basically I just accept that the Leafs will be rack up a lot of regular season points. Of course, what matters will sorted out in the spring.
Boston obviously has a nice team, but I do not think their current place in the league standings is sustainable. When you look at their blue line piece by piece, it looks rather rickety.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2022 14:16:09 GMT -5
I seem to always predict things a year or two too soon. I thought this year, the Bruins would miss the playoffs (and they still might), but its more likely to happen next year when Bergeron is definitely gone or another year older (the bruins are desperate enough to keep signing him past the time he's in a wheelchair). Pastrnak's new contract will pinch their CAP next year and the slide should start. The Bruins pipeline is drier than the Atacama desert, folks and their management team is....full of Colon Campbell clones. The Bruins, for all their hoopla, have won just as many Cups the last 10 years as the Habs...but at least our future has a happy face on it. Strange..is there any correlation between Jeremy Jacobs handing the reins to his son a couple of years ago and the weakening of the team? Or is Jeremy still involved anyway? Can't see the old coot relinquishing control.
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Post by folatre on Nov 6, 2022 14:35:47 GMT -5
There is a 'churning effect' taking place (teams beginning to move out of their window of contending and other teams emerging to begin their own). But it is admittedly hard to predict when precisely these movements happen. However, I think many hockey observers would say Boston, Washington, Pittsburgh, Tampa, and the Islanders are past their peak and unlikely to be contending in 2-3 years.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 6, 2022 21:09:41 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 7, 2022 7:11:43 GMT -5
The Bruins have decided to part ways with Miller after all. I am guessing their reported “due diligence” that they did prior to signing the kid did not uncover the publicly known information that this was not an isolated incident, the kid has not apologized to the victim or family, and that the initial incidents were blatant racist bullying, not some “one time mistake”. Neely and Sweeney are not looking very good these days. The vets, like Foligno and others, who spoke out publicly show that there is hope for change in hockey culture.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 7, 2022 8:00:39 GMT -5
The Bruins have decided to part ways with Miller after all. I am guessing their reported “due diligence” that they did prior to signing the kid did not uncover the publicly known information that this was not an isolated incident, the kid has not apologized to the victim or family, and that the initial incidents were blatant racist bullying, not some “one time mistake”. Neely and Sweeney are not looking very good these days. The vets, like Foligno and others, who spoke out publicly show that there is hope for change in hockey culture. Bergeron also made a statement against the signing.... The Bruins will have to buy out his 2.5 million dollar contract... This miller guy will make more from this Bruins screwup than a lot of people make in their career... |
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Post by jkr on Nov 7, 2022 10:53:30 GMT -5
Is Neely really saying he didnt know what was happening? He didn't know the victim's family wasn't spoken to? That's hard to believe. It looks like he will make Sweeney the fall guy.
They've managed to tick off everyone including their own team. It helps explain the lousy game the Bruins played on Saturday the day after the signing was announced.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 7, 2022 14:42:20 GMT -5
Is Neely really saying he didnt know what was happening? He didn't know the victim's family wasn't spoken to? That's hard to believe. It looks like he will make Sweeney the fall guy. They've managed to tick off everyone including their own team. It helps explain the lousy game the Bruins played on Saturday the day after the signing was announced. When I saw that headline that their 'due diligence' missed this gigantic red flag, I practically laughed out loud. Really? What due diligence? Checking out his facebook page? A simple Google search would have warned them about this kid's behaviour. UNLESS....you know, just maybe, just possibly...bullying is not a 'con' checkmark but a 'pro' checkmark for the Bruins? Is there a smidgeon of a possibility that they like that behaviour? And they couldn't come up with a better excuse than poor due diligence because that is really the best of a host of much worse excuses. Well, despite the early season point totals, this franchise is on a slide. They've done well over the last decade and a bit because of a terrific 2003 second round pick and roughly a year of Jeff Gorton at the helm. Remember that they fired him after he signed Chara and drafted Kessel, Lucic and Marchand. Clearly, he wasn't enough of a bully. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 7, 2022 15:29:18 GMT -5
Is Neely really saying he didnt know what was happening? He didn't know the victim's family wasn't spoken to? That's hard to believe. It looks like he will make Sweeney the fall guy. They've managed to tick off everyone including their own team. It helps explain the lousy game the Bruins played on Saturday the day after the signing was announced. When I saw that headline that their 'due diligence' missed this gigantic red flag, I practically laughed out loud. Really? What due diligence? Checking out his facebook page? A simple Google search would have warned them about this kid's behaviour. UNLESS....you know, just maybe, just possibly...bullying is not a 'con' checkmark but a 'pro' checkmark for the Bruins? Is there a smidgeon of a possibility that they like that behaviour? And they couldn't come up with a better excuse than poor due diligence because that is really the best of a host of much worse excuses. Well, despite the early season point totals, this franchise is on a slide. They've done well over the last decade and a bit because of a terrific 2003 second round pick and roughly a year of Jeff Gorton at the helm. Remember that they fired him after he signed Chara and drafted Kessel, Lucic and Marchand. Clearly, he wasn't enough of a bully. Don't forget having Rectum Campbells son on their team helping out... |
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Post by jkr on Nov 8, 2022 16:43:58 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 9, 2022 0:13:20 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Nov 9, 2022 6:48:49 GMT -5
Regardless of the letter, the intent of your post was clear, Dis. Does he provide any leadership at all? If he scores important goals, clutch goals, he might be given some leeway for his lack of "fight" because he's fighting back on the scoreboard. Trouble is, he doesn't have a history of that either, at least not when the rubber hits the road in the playoffs. One stat the NBA records that the NHL doesn't and that's points in crunch time, which I believe they consider the last 5 minutes of the game. It's not perfect because points at 6:59 of the 4th quarter don't count and 2 seconds later they do, but it sure is better than nothing. Youd have to tweak it for hockey. In a blowout, the stars in the NBA are on the bench while in hockey they aren't so Matthews (for example ) might score late while in baskeetball, Lebron James wouldn't be. And I'd discount empty net goals too. But you get the point. It might help pick out guys who lift their game when it counts and not just guys who pad their stats. How about crunch time: goals scored in the last 2 minutes of either of the 1st 2 periods or Goals scored the last 5 minutes of the 3rd period where the goal differential is 2 or less The NHL does track game winning goals, game tying goals, and first goals of the game ..... that's clutch |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 9, 2022 14:15:25 GMT -5
How about crunch time: goals scored in the last 2 minutes of either of the 1st 2 periods or Goals scored the last 5 minutes of the 3rd period where the goal differential is 2 or less The NHL does track game winning goals, game tying goals, and first goals of the game ..... that's clutch All those can happen in the first period. I'd like something when everyone knows it's crunch time. The third period at worst, but even later if possible. |
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