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Post by jkr on Nov 23, 2022 21:56:49 GMT -5
The commentators on the leafs game are brutal... it unwatchable Is it Mr. Holy Mackinaw - Joe Bowen  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 23, 2022 22:02:52 GMT -5
The commentators on the leafs game are brutal... it unwatchable Is it Mr. Holy Mackinaw - Joe Bowen It's the CBC bozos... Hughson and Simpson Aka Leafs Ass lick #1 and Leafs ass lick #2 |
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Post by jkr on Nov 23, 2022 22:11:12 GMT -5
Is it Mr. Holy Mackinaw - Joe Bowen It's the CBC bozos... Hughson and Simpson Aka Leafs Ass lick #1 and Leafs ass lick #2 Ugh. Glad I don't have Sportsnet in my package anymore. |
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Post by jkr on Nov 23, 2022 22:27:20 GMT -5
I don't want to read any BS tomorrow about how the Leafs shorthanded D corps did such a good job. They allowed 4 goals.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 23, 2022 22:51:31 GMT -5
I don't want to read any BS tomorrow about how the Leafs shorthanded D corps did such a good job. They allowed 4 goals. You'll get that and a lot more |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 23, 2022 23:13:22 GMT -5
There were 3 disallowed goals in the Devils game? I bet they were all devils goals Ya, 2 for goalie interference and one for the "distinct kicking motion". Come on NHL. Your bias is showing. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 23, 2022 23:17:11 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Nov 23, 2022 23:24:45 GMT -5
HOnestly, I thought the skate thing was goalie interference. Whatshisname was clearly in the blue paint (which is a no-no, I believe), and his skate was keeping Murray from getting into the butterfly (or whatever). It did seem to impede him and I thought that being in the blue paint negated any goals. Is that wrong?
I did not see the others. Too busy watching the Toronto 905 lose to the Nets.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 23, 2022 23:49:15 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Nov 24, 2022 6:39:33 GMT -5
HOnestly, I thought the skate thing was goalie interference. Whatshisname was clearly in the blue paint (which is a no-no, I believe), and his skate was keeping Murray from getting into the butterfly (or whatever). It did seem to impede him and I thought that being in the blue paint negated any goals. Is that wrong? I did not see the others. Too busy watching the Toronto 905 lose to the Nets. I've seen goals with more contact allowed - look at the Caufield goal against Pitt. Dach got bumped into Jarry and it still counted. Plus I don't get why goalie interference is called when Murray is out of the net. Toronto got the benefit of the doubt against Buffalo last Saturday like they did in the Anaheim game earlier this year. When do they start reviewing all goals scored against Toronto. |
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Post by folatre on Nov 24, 2022 11:29:05 GMT -5
I agree that Bastian, while not provoking any major contact, was in the crease. I think fans around the league are just perplexed why this type of play is sometimes ruled goalie interference and sometimes it is not.
Murray went for a stroll in the park on the second disallowed goal and he just flopped/took a dive when he realized the mess he made. I have no idea why this is interference. Tatar did not initiate the contact.
Regarding the third goal, I have no understanding of what the muddled wording in the rulebook even states with respect to kicking the puck. Haula did not exactly kick it towards the net, so is the league's understanding of the rule something like you cannot kick the puck if you are within X-feet of the goalmouth regardless of whether the puck travels east-west rather than towards the net?
It is interesting how Chris Rooney has been involved in so many inexplicable calls that favor the Leafs over the years. With the league moving into the full embrace of sports gambling, the league office in New York may want to keep an eye on actors (Rooney, the control room in Toronto, etc.) who seem to cloud the integrity of the game.
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Post by franko on Nov 24, 2022 11:54:01 GMT -5
HOnestly, I thought the skate thing was goalie interference. Whatshisname was clearly in the blue paint (which is a no-no, I believe), and his skate was keeping Murray from getting into the butterfly (or whatever). It did seem to impede him and I thought that being in the blue paint negated any goals. Is that wrong? I did not see the others. Too busy watching the Toronto 905 lose to the Nets. The toe in the crease rule was removed many years ago. Now they just use the dart board to make a decision. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 24, 2022 13:20:43 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Nov 24, 2022 14:15:00 GMT -5
It is sad to hear about the passing of Salming, one of the greats of the game. The tributes in Toronto earlier this month were excellent, made even more meaningful by the fact that Salming, his family and friends were all there together.
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 24, 2022 15:06:35 GMT -5
Ditto, folatre.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 24, 2022 15:41:36 GMT -5
I concur.. a class act
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Post by Skilly on Nov 24, 2022 17:45:21 GMT -5
I agree that Bastian, while not provoking any major contact, was in the crease. I think fans around the league are just perplexed why this type of play is sometimes ruled goalie interference and sometimes it is not. Murray went for a stroll in the park on the second disallowed goal and he just flopped/took a dive when he realized the mess he made. I have no idea why this is interference. Tatar did not initiate the contact. Regarding the third goal, I have no understanding of what the muddled wording in the rulebook even states with respect to kicking the puck. Haula did not exactly kick it towards the net, so is the league's understanding of the rule something like you cannot kick the puck if you are within X-feet of the goalmouth regardless of whether the puck travels east-west rather than towards the net? It is interesting how Chris Rooney has been involved in so many inexplicable calls that favor the Leafs over the years. With the league moving into the full embrace of sports gambling, the league office in New York may want to keep an eye on actors (Rooney, the control room in Toronto, etc.) who seem to cloud the integrity of the game. My take. The first one should have counted. Being in the crease is not an automatic disallowed goal. The rule is that he can prevent the goalie from making a save. The second one is no goal. You can't touch the goalie even if he is outside the crease. The exception is if the goalie has the puck, you are allowed to stick check him, and push him off the puck, but not hit him The third one. It was a distinct kicking motion. If that happened to a Leaf, they would count it. But the rule is that if you kick it, it doesn't matter if it goes off skates or defensive players sticks. |
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Post by jkr on Nov 26, 2022 16:49:54 GMT -5
I was texting with my son earlier today & he said that he watched the Leafs - Wild highlights. During the game when under pressure, Murray knocked the net off the mornings three times without being called for it. When questioned about it after the game he blamed it on the nets, claiming they were too loose.
Does he really expect people to believe that BS? Every rink in the league is built to the same specs. This isn't the 60s or 70s where places like Buffalo or Boston had unusual rink dimensions.
IMO, it's just more evidence of bias. Just within a week there has been that bogus goal by Giordano, the 3 goals called back in NJ and now this. NHL, wake up.
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Post by folatre on Nov 26, 2022 19:43:09 GMT -5
Murray is totally shady. He flopped like a grade-B actor on both the first two disallowed goals against the Devils. Even the Leafs homer O-Dog said the second disallowed goal was a borderline joke because Murray created incident rather than Tatar.
And what were the refs seeing in the Minnesota game? That was laughable, but the laugh was never on shady Matt Murray because the refs and league must believe the ethic of good sportsmanship is enough of a deterrent and thus no one needs to call obvious goalie gamesmanship out for what it is.
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Post by jkr on Nov 27, 2022 9:07:28 GMT -5
Watched some highlights this morning. The Rangers blew a 3-0 3rd period lead to the Oilers helped along by two disallowed goals - one for offside and one for goalie interference. The interference call looked a lot like the call in the Devils/Leafs game where Bastien's foot touched Murray. The NY player's foot touched Campbell's foot. The Rangers player felt the contact and lifted his foot out of the way almost right away. I guess the league felt that they had to call it back after making a similar call in Jersey. And after getting the shaft in the Leafs game, the Devils have won 2 straight. Hughes had a hat trick last night helped by Lindgren. One of the goals was scored from the corner of the rink and one from behind the net.  |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 30, 2022 18:33:08 GMT -5
Looking at the standings and Florida is 17th overall and Habs 19th. That’s ok but more losses (entertaining ones with the kids getting a pile of points) would be beneficial, especially for Florida. 59 games to go.
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Post by folatre on Nov 30, 2022 19:06:13 GMT -5
Florida is thin on the blue line. And consequently they leak a lot of goals. I still do not believe it is likely they miss the playoffs unless Barkov cannot get right health-wise, however it is hard to see how they finish better than fourth place in the Atlantic.
Considering the upcoming schedule for the Habs over the next 4-6 weeks, I anticipate Montreal will be bottom ten in the league soon enough.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 1, 2022 2:48:18 GMT -5
Florida is thin on the blue line. And consequently they leak a lot of goals. I still do not believe it is likely they miss the playoffs unless Barkov cannot get right health-wise, however it is hard to see how they finish better than fourth place in the Atlantic. Considering the upcoming schedule for the Habs over the next 4-6 weeks, I anticipate Montreal will be bottom ten in the league soon enough. Barkov is indeed the key. Could be interesting, huh, if he continues to have health issues. If they finish 19th, that's the 13th overall pick, which isn't bad and might be even better if they win one of the lottery spots. Moving up 10 spots or so would be delicious. Chiarot might be the gift that keeps on giving. |
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Post by drkcloud on Dec 1, 2022 23:37:28 GMT -5
Jason Robertson got the hat trick for Dallas tonight, gives him 23 on the season.
I was just marveling at their 2017 draft. 1st round they got Heiskanen and Oettinger,2nd round Robertson
That is the kind of home run we need looking at last year's draft and maybe this year
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 3, 2022 20:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 3, 2022 22:01:32 GMT -5
Shockingly, leafs down 3-2 in the 3rd and they get a PP on a lame call
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Post by jkr on Dec 3, 2022 22:20:41 GMT -5
Funny how that happens eh.
Any way they lose in OT again- now 1-6.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 3, 2022 22:26:31 GMT -5
Marner sets a Leafs' record...19 consecutive games with at least a point.
It might be just a prolonged hot streak....but he's gotta be in the Hart conversation at this point.
Earlier this season he appeared to be in the dog house.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 4, 2022 1:46:24 GMT -5
Minor point, but I couldn’t help but notice how well Max Domi is doing in Chicago, which kind of reinforces that it can take time to judge a trade. When Anderson was acquired for Domi it was considered an easy win for Montreal. Anderson ha 7 points so far this year and Domi has 19. Looks a little different today.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 4, 2022 1:48:44 GMT -5
Stupid Seattle. They’re destroying everyone and then fall on their sword against Florida. Roaches.
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