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Post by Cranky on Jul 2, 2023 15:27:08 GMT -5
I was in a wind turbine town hall and my tongue went into hiding. I'm not shy but when you have that many people looking at you, the brain freezes.
It was also hard because it was the most bull puck ridden discussion I ever had so I found a new respect for politicians. They are so good at it...
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Post by seventeen on Jul 2, 2023 17:03:16 GMT -5
Hell, i’ve lost the right word just speaking to my wife. I could give her all kinds of clues as to what I meant to say, but the exact word?, no way.
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Post by Skilly on Jul 2, 2023 20:28:51 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... he was told the name before they went on stage, likely repeated it. Also, given human nature, was saying it in his head while Hughes was giving his spiel ...
Now, how many press conferences has Price given? Hundreds? How many times has he gotten an award and got up on stage in front of thousands to accept and give a prepared speech? I'd say more than a few times. And those speeches where more than 2 words.
Give him all the excuses you want .... he screwed the pooch. Reinbacher is not very hard to say or remember.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 2, 2023 22:14:39 GMT -5
I was originally gobsmacked by the pick, but after thinking about it more, it's usually not a bad thing to pick the best defenceman in the draft ... welcome to Montreal, David Reinbacher ... Cheers. This is where I am Rick. Potentially the best D in the draft or a player that was so amazing 6 teams passed him by?!? Was surprised at all the negative reaction as you would have thought we had the 1st pick overall. Regardless, usually the anointed draft losers turn out to be winners and vice versa so we will see how it plays out. I was more surprised at the run on goaltenders and over-agers on day 2. Might give a sign on why they were so willing to deal two picks in the 30s as they obviously didn't see much out there that they liked. I hear you, Bob ... the initial reaction wasn't good ... it was as if the entire fan base had the life sucked out of them ... I know I was initially disappointed, but I felt a lot more comfortable with the pick, as more positives started coming out about David Reinbacher ... we keep hearing how rare it is to find an impact RH d-man, and Reinbacher fills a need that is hard to fill ... still wouldn't have minded that Ryan Leonard kid, though ... didn't mind the run on goaltenders ... they had to start thinking about post- Carey Price Era at some point in time ... Sam Montembeault should get the nod as the starting goaltender this season ... he's doing well, but the team needs to get better at this position, too ... Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 3, 2023 0:42:24 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... he was told the name before they went on stage, likely repeated it. Also, given human nature, was saying it in his head while Hughes was giving his spiel ... Now, how many press conferences has Price given? Hundreds? How many times has he gotten an award and got up on stage in front of thousands to accept and give a prepared speech? I'd say more than a few times. And those speeches where more than 2 words. Give him all the excuses you want .... he screwed the pooch. Reinbacher is not very hard to say or remember. True. Very disappointing. Also, TSN and Sportsnet seem to be adding it to their lists of blooper things, so we're going to be seeing that for a long time. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 3, 2023 0:51:13 GMT -5
I know I was initially disappointed, but I felt a lot more comfortable with the pick, as more positives started coming out about David Reinbacher ... we keep hearing how rare it is to find an impact RH d-man, and Reinbacher fills a need that is hard to fill ... still wouldn't have minded that Ryan Leonard kid, though ... didn't mind the run on goaltenders ... they had to start thinking about post- Carey Price Era at some point in time ... Sam Montembeault should get the nod as the starting goaltender this season ... he's doing well, but the team needs to get better at this position, too ... Cheers. I wouldn't have minded Leonard as well, Dis. I think Reinbacher's position trumped Leonard's and he got the nod. What I'm debating in my head is that this year is the year of the forward. Lots of excellent or well above average forwards. There isn't a surfeit (love that word, huh?) of defensemen in this draft. Now, next year it's totally different. Yeah, Celebrini and Cole Eiserman are there at the top, but there are supposedly a lot of D-men. I can't recall his name but there's this kid from Finland who was on the Finnish WJC U-20 team at 17! I paid attention to him and he was more than solid. Quite a few CHL defensemen as well are graduating next draft. So it sort of made sense to me (assuming we're not winning the cup next year) to pick a very good forward this year and go for the defenseman next year. In any case, Orville has a lot of impressing to do. We shall see. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 3, 2023 6:04:31 GMT -5
I know Twitter is a cesspool but I’m glad the fan base reacted strongly to the pick. This management team isn’t operating in a vacuum. They’ve inherited 30 years of frustration from the most passionate fan base in the league.
Almost as much as winning, Habs fans want excitement, skill, panache. They want another Guy Lafleur. Right or wrong they wanted Matvei Michkov as much for what he represents, a get out of your seat player we haven’t had in a long time. You saw flashes of it with Alex Kovalev and even PK Subban but this fan base is just starved for that kind of player.
Instead the got David Reinbacher. Of course you don’t make a pick like that to appease the fans and who knows maybe HuGo will be vindicated by the pick but the contrast in styles couldn’t be more stark. Winning matters of course but fans want to be excited and entertained. The pick was boring even if it helps the team.
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Post by folatre on Jul 3, 2023 6:30:03 GMT -5
The whole 'Philly is the only place Michkov wanted to play theory' makes zero sense. Not only are the Flyers one of the worst teams in the league, they have been one of the most unstable and dysfunctional organizations in the league as well, now coached by the friendly John Tortorella. And Philadelphia has no particular history with Russian players -- no legends, no critical mass of guys. Moreover, some people would say Provorov got blamed by coaches, front office, and fans disproportionately for the Flyers woes in recent years.
I think Michkov's comments in the interview on espn at the draft were just a kid whose pride was a little hurt by dropping to #7 and who was trying to make the best of the situation. Basically the kid threw a bone to Flyers fans by saying this is where I wanted to go and he threw a little shade at the clubs who passed him by essentially saying whatever I didn't want to play for you anyway.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 3, 2023 10:18:18 GMT -5
I know I was initially disappointed, but I felt a lot more comfortable with the pick, as more positives started coming out about David Reinbacher ... we keep hearing how rare it is to find an impact RH d-man, and Reinbacher fills a need that is hard to fill ... still wouldn't have minded that Ryan Leonard kid, though ... didn't mind the run on goaltenders ... they had to start thinking about post- Carey Price Era at some point in time ... Sam Montembeault should get the nod as the starting goaltender this season ... he's doing well, but the team needs to get better at this position, too ... Cheers. I wouldn't have minded Leonard as well, Dis. I heard a comparison to Claude Lemieux on one podcast ... Cheers. |
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Post by Skilly on Jul 3, 2023 16:08:53 GMT -5
I know I was initially disappointed, but I felt a lot more comfortable with the pick, as more positives started coming out about David Reinbacher ... we keep hearing how rare it is to find an impact RH d-man, and Reinbacher fills a need that is hard to fill ... still wouldn't have minded that Ryan Leonard kid, though ... didn't mind the run on goaltenders ... they had to start thinking about post- Carey Price Era at some point in time ... Sam Montembeault should get the nod as the starting goaltender this season ... he's doing well, but the team needs to get better at this position, too ... Cheers. I wouldn't have minded Leonard as well, Dis. I think Reinbacher's position trumped Leonard's and he got the nod. What I'm debating in my head is that this year is the year of the forward. Lots of excellent or well above average forwards. There isn't a surfeit (love that word, huh?) of defensemen in this draft. Now, next year it's totally different. Yeah, Celebrini and Cole Eiserman are there at the top, but there are supposedly a lot of D-men. I can't recall his name but there's this kid from Finland who was on the Finnish WJC U-20 team at 17! I paid attention to him and he was more than solid. Quite a few CHL defensemen as well are graduating next draft. So it sort of made sense to me (assuming we're not winning the cup next year) to pick a very good forward this year and go for the defenseman next year. In any case, Orville has a lot of impressing to do. We shall see. Youngest D on Finland was Otto Salin ... but his birthdate is March 7, 2004. (18 at the tournament) |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 7, 2023 0:18:53 GMT -5
Saw this article on The Athletic and thought it might be interesting to the group. Canadiens draft decision on David Reinbacher explained by co-director of scouting Nick Bobrov
By Arpon BasuJul 6, 2023
BROSSARD, Que. — Nick Bobrov sat down and exhaled.
Canadiens development camp was over, exit interviews with the prospects — most of whom he had no part in drafting — were winding down. His second draft as Canadiens co-director of amateur scouting was in the rearview mirror. The time to relax had arrived, right?
Wrong.
“We’re already looking at next year’s names,” Bobrov said with a grin.
The Hlinka Gretzky tournament — the kickoff to the draft cycle — starts at the end of the month in Czechia and Slovakia. And that list of names is already cultivated. Our prospect expert Corey Pronman already has a 2024 mock draft out, for crying out loud.
This is not meant to be some sort of pity party for the scouting community — they do what they do because of their passion for the job and wouldn’t have it any other way — but it is rather a way to look at the Canadiens taking David Reinbacher at No. 5 in the NHL draft last week and signing him to his entry-level contract just before he left to go home to Austria for the summer, as touching a contract signing as you’ll find.
The fact is a year ago at this time, that moment seemed impossible. Reinbacher was not on the Canadiens’ radar. He wasn’t on anybody’s radar, really. Which is unusual. The process Bobrov described of going over next year’s names would not have included Reinbacher’s name a week after the 2022 draft.
“Well, his first emergence was at the World Junior in Edmonton, which was after Hlinka,” Bobrov told The Athletic Tuesday. “So it was in August. So that was his first big stage emergence, I would say. We noticed him there. We talked to the coaching staff about him at that time. So we felt that we were pretty early in on him.
“And then, from September on, guys were watching him, both live and on video and he kept climbing. The bells were ringing early in the season on this player. Maybe the market caught up a little bit later, but we had guys talking about him very, very early.”
Very early compared to the market, perhaps, but still late in terms of when teams typically start eyeing prospects for the draft. Last October, when NHL Central Scouting released its players to watch list for the 2023 draft, Reinbacher was given a B grade, which signifies a second or third-round pick projection.
Last year, the Canadiens used the No. 1 pick on another late riser, Juraj Slafkovský. In 2018, a different administration used the No. 3 pick on another late riser, Jesperi Kotkaniemi. Reinbacher makes it three-for-three on top-5 picks for the fanbase, which might be why some are concerned about it.
So, is there some added risk when it comes to late risers? Is their evaluation suffering from a smaller sample size? Bobrov readily admits no one saw Reinbacher play in 2021-22 because he was playing in a league — the second division in Switzerland — that no one scouts because NHL prospects typically don’t play there. Is that a problem?
“Well, I think the early developed kid who dominates at 12 and wins every tournament, the majority of them end up following that path and emerge and end up staying the course and becoming good players,” Bobrov responded. “And then you have whatever other percentage, say it’s 30 percent of emerging kids that are coming from different environments, not just in Europe, but in the U.S. and Canada, predominantly Canada and Europe. So there is a portion.
“You take Owen Beck as an example, he kind of came through a double-A environment and (emerged in his) first year in the (OHL). Patrice Bergeron was another example of first year in the league, kind of a late riser in comparison to his peer group. So, you know, it happens. It happens enough times where you pay attention to it.”
This is not an attempt to justify the Canadiens picking Reinbacher. It is an attempt to have them justify it. I don’t know if they made the right call, but no one will for at least two years, likely three. If it were me, I would have taken Ryan Leonard at No. 5, and I believe the Canadiens were quite high on him as well. Everyone has a right to their own opinions, but no one can say the Canadiens did not have a fully informed opinion. Every European scout the Canadiens employ — Christer Rockström, Hannu Laine, Tommy Lehman and Michal Krupa — saw him play multiple times, Bobrov said. Martin Lapointe and Bobrov saw him live multiple times. American scouts Billy Ryan and Albie O’Connell saw him play multiple times. Even goalie scout Vincent Riendeau saw him multiple times.
“Everyone who travels to Europe would be asked to see him,” Bobrov said.
The general sentiment from the fanbase is that the Canadiens have not had a game-breaking offensive talent in decades, so how could they pass on taking a forward in a forward-rich draft, especially, as Pronman’s 2024 mock draft exercise demonstrated, next year’s class is richer in defencemen? It’s a fair question, so I asked Bobrov, and his answer was not that different from what Kent Hughes said on draft night when asked essentially the same question.
“Well, I would say we have players right now on the team who are developing every month, every year, whether that’s Nick Suzuki, Cole Caufield, Kirby Dach, with Alex Newhook coming and he can score goals, Slaf, so we feel we have scoring that’s going to rise with the rise of these still very, very young players. So there is an upward trend there in scoring ability,” he responded. “So I would push back against the notion that we have no scoring. We have very young players who always scored, and they’re getting better every month. And then, you know, how many 40-goal scorers did Vegas have this year? You start looking at the playoffs, right? The playoffs.
“Once you look at that, some things become a little bit clearer, and so we try to remind ourselves of that every time, every year, every cycle and not get caught up in, you know, shiny objects, I guess.”
I didn’t mention the name of Matvei Michkov, and Bobrov didn’t either. But it was pretty evident Michkov was the shiny object he was referring to, and it was equally evident he was aware of what a portion of the fanbase is quite upset about. And it’s clear Bobrov and the Canadiens don’t consider shiny objects to be a path to a Stanley Cup. They might be wrong, but that’s what they think.
But what Bobrov wanted to make clear is that determination comes after an exhaustive process, multiple opinions from multiple people to make sure blind spots are eliminated to the best of their ability.
“I think whether it’s last year or this year, the process is the same,” Bobrov said. “We battle, we try to see every angle, we try to stress test it versus other players as well, trying to talk ourselves into other players as well. And it happens with each player. So say there’s a set of three players. We’re trying to convince ourselves that each one of them is our guy. And then stress test, what could go wrong? What the downside might be with each player, and not just David. The process is the same, whether it’s a first-round pick or sixth-round pick, there’s still a group of three guys that we’re trying to convince ourselves and convince ourselves to take somebody else at the same time. And then you end up going back to player A or player B.
“Through that process, we realize where the majority of the passion is living. Because if there’s no passion that we can feel about a player from the room, from different parts of the staff, whether it’s the coaches — because everybody is watching these kids, we involve everyone. So sometimes there’s a lot of passion, sometimes the passion disappears quickly and you kind of feel it.”
Therefore, that passion was felt about Reinbacher, despite their own attempts to convince themselves of other options.
Analytics is something the Canadiens lean on heavily in their draft process. Director of hockey analytics Christopher Boucher and his department have a seat at the decision-making table, and his thoughts are respected and considered, which wasn’t necessarily the case with the previous administration even if they had a meagre commitment to analytics. And Bobrov has always had an analytical bent to his process.
“David’s numbers are extremely high in several categories,” Bobrov said. “Obviously his (play) kills, his breakouts. I don’t think any analytics expert would dispute where he comes out extremely high on some of the player comparisons from the past. We had similar numbers on some of the biggest names on defence that we’ve seen. So from that perspective, he’s right up there with some of the biggest names. So we felt very comfortable with that.”
And this notion that Reinbacher was drafted to play with Lane Hutson, a notion that was only reinforced at development camp, is something Bobrov pushed back on pretty hard.
“We felt with David, he’s the type of a D who can play with anyone,” he said. “If you look at our defencemen, he would be great with pretty much everyone that we have. He can play with Logan (Mailloux), he can play with Arber (Xhekaj), he can play with (Kaiden) Guhle. So you don’t have to worry about trying to match it perfectly because when a player is that well-rounded, every D will want to play with him, because he kind of does everything right in terms of positioning, in terms of his stick, defence, passing, putting pucks on tape, support, coverage, reads, both offfensive and defensive.
“So we felt you can stick him with anyone, and he’ll be great.”
And when asked to address his comment at the draft that Reinbacher fits the culture the Canadiens are trying to build, if it was something specific Reinbacher said or did that led them to believe that, Bobrov pushed back just as hard.
“There is nothing he said in particular,” he said. “He shows it on the ice with his play.”
The one thing most of the public discourse about Reinbacher kept bringing up as a drawback was a lack of offensive upside in his game, despite him having the most productive season for a draft-eligible defenceman in the history of the top Swiss league and the second-highest overall after Auston Matthews. Better than Reinbacher’s idol Roman Josi by a longshot.
His coach in Kloten, Jeff Tomlinson, feels those concerns are somewhat unfounded.
“I don’t think he’s going to do it with the flair that maybe some people like, I think he’s going to do it with his simple passes,” Tomlinson said on draft night. “I think he’s going to be kind of the guy that’s just going to keep it simple and create offence that way. He’ll move up the ice. He’ll want to lead the rush or help the rushes. And I do think he’s got some upside in every part of his game because this is all new for him and he’s made a big step. And I think we expect him to take even more.”
Bobrov and the Canadiens clearly agree, and that is, at the core, why they drafted Reinbacher, and why they drafted Slafkovský last season as well. It was a growth play. They believe Slafkovský has so much to add to his game that will make him successful in the NHL, and that his profile as a big, skilled forward was a rare commodity. Reinbacher, as a right-shot defenceman, a premium position, is no different. They see growth potential in him, and they believe the development infrastructure they have put in place will get that potential out of both of them.
“Players add to their game,” Bobrov said. “But if you were to say, yes, offence comes from a good first pass, pass on tape, good players would want to play with a D that gets them the puck and places it well.
“David has all of that in spades.”
Again, this is Bobrov’s perspective, and it’s important to remember that he will obviously defend the Canadiens’ decision because he and the franchise are heavily invested in it. This is presented as an opportunity to get a window into their decision-making process and either embrace or scrutinize it. That is up to you.
I don’t know if they made the right decision here. What I do know is that I am not well-equipped to make that determination right now. No one else is, either.
But Reinbacher at least deserves a chance to prove the Canadiens right or wrong.
As people try to compare him to existing NHL'rs, the most common guy named is Roman Josi. I don't find that at all from the scouting reports I've read of Reinbacher. Josi is the guy who can go end to end and excite the crowd. I haven't heard any scout say Reinbacher is capable of that, though who knows, he might be in 5 years. I keep hearing efficient, there's nothing he does badly, he can play with anyone, he's versatile. While I didn't see him play a lot, the guy those descriptions most remind me of is Nik Lidstrom. LIdstrom scored 20 goals only once in his career and more than half of the time scored less than 15 goals a year. What he was exceptional at was getting the puck to the net and creating rebounds. He was also very sound in his own end, leading to a lot of plus seasons (though being on a very good team most of his career made that easier). I'm not saying Orville is the next Lidstrom, but rather to expect that kind of play. Lidstrom was a boring defenceman. Effective but boring. We really need to look at Reinbacher's results and not how he gets them because he might be darn boring. We'll have to leave it to Hutson to provide the entertainment.
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2023 1:59:44 GMT -5
Interesting read... nothing mindblowing, but they clearly had him on their short list from the start.
Also, part of the reason they couldn't trade down is that teams were trading up... to pick him.
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Post by Cranky on Jul 7, 2023 4:45:05 GMT -5
There is also another psychological playing out here. Group think.
They saw him play, they liked his play and then they reinforced each other's opinion. In a situation like that, they would magnify the upside and overlook the faults.
I remember going with a friend to a game who was knowledgeble. He saw a defenseman take out a player behind the net. I saw a defenseman who was out of position. While one expects "pros" to be able to tell the difference between the two, like all humans, they interpret what they see from their point of view. More so if there is a built in group bias.
The choice was between Rein, Leonard and Michkov. Unlike later picks, these are pretty high skill/production levels and it will apperant within a few years how right or wrong they were.
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 8, 2023 13:07:48 GMT -5
There is also another psychological playing out here. Group think. They saw him play, they liked his play and then they reinforced each other's opinion. In a situation like that, they would magnify the upside and overlook the faults. I remember going with a friend to a game who was knowledgeble. He saw a defenseman take out a player behind the net. I saw a defenseman who was out of position. While one expects "pros" to be able to tell the difference between the two, like all humans, they interpret what they see from their point of view. More so if there is a built in group bias. The choice was between Rein, Leonard and Michkov. Unlike later picks, these are pretty high skill/production levels and it will apperant within a few years how right or wrong they were. Pcychologist would have a field day with this interview. What i find particularly odd, if not disturbing, is how much emphasis is put on "We were the first ones to notice Reinbacher". Talk about trying to self-promote and reinforce your group think. Who cares who was first to notice a player. By the time the draft comes around everyone knows the player, particularly if they are a first trounder. The only question is "was he a worthy 5th overall". Time will tell and I'm hopeful. But I couldn't care less that Mtl was the first team to stumble across some kid playing in Switzerland. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 8, 2023 17:24:31 GMT -5
Pcychologist would have a field day with this interview. What i find particularly odd, if not disturbing, is how much emphasis is put on "We were the first ones to notice Reinbacher". Talk about trying to self-promote and reinforce your group think. Who cares who was first to notice a player. By the time the draft comes around everyone knows the player, particularly if they are a first trounder. The only question is "was he a worthy 5th overall". Time will tell and I'm hopeful. But I couldn't care less that Mtl was the first team to stumble across some kid playing in Switzerland. That stuck out to me too. If you were the first to notice him and that gave you some kind of advantage, great. Clearly it didn't. Reinbacher was not Peter Svoboda. Now he might have said they were the first to notice him because they actually pay attention to the Swiss 2nd division league (of which no one else does), then I could applaud that. Until they draft some guy from that league, which no one else has noticed, then don't brag about it. Maybe no one scouts it because it's not worth it. Now that doesn't mean Reinbacher was a bad pick. There were some impartial observers (Arpon Basu), who confirmed with other teams that they were trying to trade up to pick him. That, to me, is a much more positive indicator than "we noticed him first" |
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Post by folatre on Jul 8, 2023 19:51:54 GMT -5
Bobrov's track record as Director of European Scouting in Boston and New York does not inspire much confidence. The Bruins did not pick many Euros, so I guess I will not slag on him there. But the Rangers did pick a significant number of Euros (mainly forwards) during his tenure there and there are some dreadful selections that would give any rational observer pause.
He did not say anything wrong per se in this interview. But somewhere between the lines it sounds like confirmation bias.
Seventeen, I know Arizona loved Reinbacher and hoped he would fall to them, but was Basu saying teams were actively trying to make strong offers to Montreal in order to select to Reinbacher? I find this a little hard to believe. Though I could perfectly well believe teams were exploring scenarios if where Reinbacher fell beyond #6, then a team with a lot of first round draft like St. Louis or Nashville may have been plotting how to go up and get him.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 8, 2023 21:16:25 GMT -5
Our defense in 2 years could be: Ghule Reinbacher Xhekaj Mailloux Barron Matheson That is pretty darn good. Pretty good doesn’t win Cups. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 8, 2023 21:27:38 GMT -5
Bobrov's track record as Director of European Scouting in Boston and New York does not inspire much confidence. The Bruins did not pick many Euros, so I guess I will not slag on him there. But the Rangers did pick a significant number of Euros (mainly forwards) during his tenure there and there are some dreadful selections that would give any rational observer pause. He did not say anything wrong per se in this interview. But somewhere between the lines it sounds like confirmation bias. Seventeen, I know Arizona loved Reinbacher and hoped he would fall to them, but was Basu saying teams were actively trying to make strong offers to Montreal in order to select to Reinbacher? I find this a little hard to believe. Though I could perfectly well believe teams were exploring scenarios if where Reinbacher fell beyond #6, then a team with a lot of first round draft like St. Louis or Nashville may have been plotting how to go up and get him. In 1971 Guy Lafleur was 1 and Rick Martin was 5. Martin was pretty good but no Lafleur. |
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 8, 2023 21:36:51 GMT -5
Bobrov's track record as Director of European Scouting in Boston and New York does not inspire much confidence. The Bruins did not pick many Euros, so I guess I will not slag on him there. But the Rangers did pick a significant number of Euros (mainly forwards) during his tenure there and there are some dreadful selections that would give any rational observer pause. He did not say anything wrong per se in this interview. But somewhere between the lines it sounds like confirmation bias. Seventeen, I know Arizona loved Reinbacher and hoped he would fall to them, but was Basu saying teams were actively trying to make strong offers to Montreal in order to select to Reinbacher? I find this a little hard to believe. Though I could perfectly well believe teams were exploring scenarios if where Reinbacher fell beyond #6, then a team with a lot of first round draft like St. Louis or Nashville may have been plotting how to go up and get him. In 1971 Guy Lafleur was 1 and Rick Martin was 5. Martin was pretty good but no Lafleur. If Bedard is Lafleur elite, I'm thrilled if Reinbacher reaches Martin status. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 8, 2023 21:39:56 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 9, 2023 14:33:17 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 9, 2023 15:57:33 GMT -5
Interesting read... nothing mindblowing, but they clearly had him on their short list from the start. Also, part of the reason they couldn't trade down is that teams were trading up... to pick him. has predicted the Habs' top draft pick in each of the last two drafts ... last year he nailed the Juraj Slafkovsky pick, and this year he said that he wouldn't be surprised if the Habs were to pick David Reinbacher ... he also mentioned before the draft that, in his opinion, the two interviews the Habs were most impressed with were Reinbacher and Ryan Leonard ... now, I don't think McCagg has extraordinary vision, but I do get the impression that he watches the Habs very closely ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 10, 2023 22:05:03 GMT -5
Heard on spittin chiclets that both biz nasty and Ryan Whitney said Michkov has issues and that he kicked a teammate and that he was a piece of Saperlipopette
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Post by franko on Jul 11, 2023 0:32:42 GMT -5
Well, easy to find lots to back up why he wasn't drafted if you go looking. apparently .
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 13, 2023 1:08:20 GMT -5
I was watching Carey's Goof moment again and it occurred to me that there was another David (Edstrom) picked in the first round by Vegas at #32. As bad as Carey's delay was for Reinbacher, I wonder if Edstrom thought for a moment, or what seemed like a few minutes as Carey drew a blank after calling out the first name "David", if he was going to be a Hab.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 13, 2023 1:31:02 GMT -5
I'm just glad he didn't say "Goliath".
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Post by Habit on Jul 13, 2023 6:11:43 GMT -5
Time to pick a nickname... I'm thinking "Popcorn"  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 13, 2023 7:12:56 GMT -5
Time to pick a nickname... I'm thinking "Popcorn" Online they've been calling him Orville |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 13, 2023 9:41:02 GMT -5
During the draft feed I think I called him popcorn with Orville in my head...I don't know if it was posted before the draft but it seems I am not the only one who thought it.
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 13, 2023 9:56:04 GMT -5
Time to pick a nickname... I'm thinking "Popcorn" Well, I keep seeing that hi-lite when he "pops" that guy over the boards. More please! |
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