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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 22, 2007 20:26:18 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who Bob picks now....I'll be disappointed. Could of traded up...now here comes another safe pick.......boring.
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Post by PTH on Jun 22, 2007 20:26:32 GMT -5
I guess we could get Dave Perron? Keven Veilleux perhaps ?
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 22, 2007 20:27:17 GMT -5
Fill me in on the RDS thing. What did Timmins say. Only got TSN...
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Post by Skilly on Jun 22, 2007 20:28:45 GMT -5
I guess we could get Dave Perron? Keven Veilleux perhaps ? The way we are stockpiling defensemen I wouldnt be surprised if it is Nick Petrecki.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 22, 2007 20:30:29 GMT -5
Well if it is Nick...Guess we'll have alot of D-man in 4 years.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 22, 2007 20:31:14 GMT -5
Max Pacioretty
EDIT: He doesnt seem overly enthused about being picked does he?
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Post by PTH on Jun 22, 2007 20:31:23 GMT -5
Fill me in on the RDS thing. What did Timmins say. Only got TSN... About McD ? Just that he was happy with the pick, wanted to trade up to be sure to get him, refused to answer the "why didn't you take Espo".....
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Post by Skilly on Jun 22, 2007 20:34:39 GMT -5
I would have rather they picked Logan Couture
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 22, 2007 20:37:55 GMT -5
Max doesn't sound like Komi or Higgins when they where drafted thats for sure. Well atleast its a "power forward"
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Post by Skilly on Jun 22, 2007 20:38:51 GMT -5
Gainey/Timmins must hate the QMJHL ..... pass on Espo (although I like the McDonagh pick), dont trade up to get Espo which looks like it was very doable, and then pass on Perron.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 22, 2007 20:40:20 GMT -5
Gainey/Timmins must hate the QMJHL ..... pass on Espo (although I like the McDonagh pick), dont trade up to get Espo which looks like it was very doable, and then pass on Perron. Weren't they suppose to focus on the "Q" or atleast local talent. That is why I thought the should have tried for Espo at 18 or 19
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Post by Cranky on Jun 22, 2007 20:53:25 GMT -5
First round picks were available for a couple of second round picks. He could of EASILY traded for another first round draft choice and picked Esposito, nope, he's too bored to get off his effen chair.
I'm done with Gainey. He is proving solidly mediocre GM.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 22, 2007 20:54:29 GMT -5
Gainey/Timmins must hate the QMJHL ..... pass on Espo (although I like the McDonagh pick), dont trade up to get Espo which looks like it was very doable, and then pass on Perron. Weren't they suppose to focus on the "Q" or atleast local talent. That is why I thought the should have tried for Espo at 18 or 19 That's way to easy, way to intellegent move. THAT is why Gainey will never do it.
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Post by PTH on Jun 22, 2007 21:01:44 GMT -5
First round picks were available for a couple of second round picks. He could of EASILY traded for another first round draft choice and picked Esposito, nope, he's too bored to get off his effen chair. I'm done with Gainey. He is proving solidly mediocre GM. Huh ? We saw teams go for #24 to #18 for a second rounder, which is still fairly expensive (ie, a slightly better pick, but losing a chance to pick at a rank where you can still get someone like Lapierre or Latendresse...
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 22, 2007 21:05:42 GMT -5
I'm with Cranky on this....sometime you have to please the fans. Bob should of taken the risk and traded the 22 and a 3rd rounder for the opportunity.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 22, 2007 21:07:26 GMT -5
First round picks were available for a couple of second round picks. He could of EASILY traded for another first round draft choice and picked Esposito, nope, he's too bored to get off his effen chair. I'm done with Gainey. He is proving solidly mediocre GM. Huh ? We saw teams go for #24 to #18 for a second rounder, which is still fairly expensive (ie, a slightly better pick, but losing a chance to pick at a rank where you can still get someone like Lapierre or Latendresse... Did you see who GM were picking in the FIRST round? They were already off the board. By the second round, GM's will be picking players with a fishing line and a two dollar bill as bait. We need skilled centers very badly and we let one go for a crap shoot in the second round. That id he even had to bother with a second rounder. Try more like a third rounder to move a couple of positions up. Does that make sense to you?
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Post by clear observer on Jun 22, 2007 21:09:03 GMT -5
Habs chose a good kid at 12th, but I can't shake this feeling that they missed a golden opportunity(ies) leaving me with a sick feeling in my gut.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 22, 2007 21:13:36 GMT -5
Habs chose a good kid at 12th, but I can't shake this feeling that they missed a golden opportunity(ies) leaving me with a sick feeling in my gut. When Espo is scoring 30, Gainey will have already retired and we will be wondering why we are still competing for a play off spot in the last week of the schedule.
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Post by HabbaDasher on Jun 22, 2007 21:30:00 GMT -5
Gotta love armchair experts and their crystal balls.... ;D
Go Timmins, Go!
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Post by habmeister on Jun 22, 2007 21:31:19 GMT -5
habs weren't the only one to pass him up, it wasn't like the #13 pickers were running up the aisle to grab esposito. he fell past #20. i hope he proves everyone wrong, but i still would not have taken him. the rest of the league agreed.
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Post by habmeister on Jun 22, 2007 21:31:50 GMT -5
someone else can do the standings, i got buddies over. i know that NWT must have won it though!
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2007 21:47:41 GMT -5
I love th McD pick...don't know enough about PacMan to really say.
Timmins knows what he's doing at the draft table, and if he wanted Esposito then Gainey would have made it happen for him. Personally I would have liked to have seen it happen, but obviously they just didn't rate the kid very high. We don't need to become Toronto here and just take in guys because they want to play here, and I give Timmins a lot of credit for sticking with his guns on this one.
Didn't someone once say that as soon as you start making moves to please your fans in the stands you'll be joining them very shortly?
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Post by clear observer on Jun 22, 2007 21:51:44 GMT -5
Didn't someone once say that as soon as you start making moves to please your fans in the stands you'll be joining them very shortly? I think it was Irving Grundman. j/k CO
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 22, 2007 22:10:54 GMT -5
I would have rather they picked Logan Couture Would have liked to see that myself, Skilly. Another Kilrea graduate whose future could involve a captaincy. Was surprised they opted out on Esposito. But, I think he'll fit in well to the Pittsburgh game plan. A young, very talented team that just better I think. Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 22, 2007 22:21:03 GMT -5
Habs chose a good kid at 12th, but I can't shake this feeling that they missed a golden opportunity(ies) leaving me with a sick feeling in my gut. It's hard to say, CO. However, if he turns out to be a Mike Bossy or a Denis Savard .... However, he has to like where he is now. Pittsburgh is set down the middle for a few years now. As if they weren't before. Cheers.
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Post by Roggy on Jun 22, 2007 23:41:21 GMT -5
The simple fact that not picking Espo is causing such a fuss drives me nuts! Why can't the fans just let the hockey people decide who the best player for the hockey team is? Why does it always have to be the hometown kid, or the one that speaks the language? There are legitimate concerns about Espo's attitude and work ethic, which I'm sure Trevor Timmins and Bob Gainey know a whole lot more about than us. Nineteen other teams also passed on him, and the one that took him, is probably the only team in the league that can afford him to risk him being a bust because they already have enough young guys to make them a Cup contender.
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Post by larek on Jun 23, 2007 0:08:25 GMT -5
"Why does it always have to be the hometown kid,"
you got to be kidding?
go look at the last 15 years of HAbs drafts
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Post by seventeen on Jun 23, 2007 0:12:14 GMT -5
When Espo is scoring 30...... In what league? I had too many bad vibes about the guy. I really don't like it when a player plateaus or takes a downturn from one year to the next, when he should be getting better, without a good reason, like a serious injury. The fact he looked so good playing with Radulov should also have sent out red flags. That's why Timmins was really hoping someone would take him before #12, to avoid the obvious criticism coming his way when they passed on him. If he'd still been around at 22, we might have rolled the dice, but McDonagh was obviously a better gamble at 12. Maybe he turns into a star, though my money's on others.
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Post by mic on Jun 23, 2007 7:04:49 GMT -5
First round picks were available for a couple of second round picks. He could of EASILY traded for another first round draft choice and picked Esposito, nope, he's too bored to get off his effen chair. Perhaps he didn't consider it worth it based on its scouting team? Because he resisted media pressure to take a local player? Overall, I agree with PTH and others: Esposito could come back and become a Habs killer like Leclair and Crosby. However, I don't see why I would criticize Gainey and Timmins now for chosing a top-rated defensemen and leaving aside a player who had a difficult draft year. If they didn't like what they saw in Esposito, why should they move? To please the fans? Do we really want to go that way? Sure, there were many likable aspects to Esposito. However, the fact that he wanted to play for the Habs doesn't mean that he has to be drafted by the Habs. I am looking forward to see McDonagh play, as he is said to be a very good hockey player: good skater, tough, sometimes even mean, soft hands. Same with Pacioretty: big ans strong winger, leadership qualities, good shot. Anyway, for those of you who like to read about the players the Habs drafted (and not those who they didn't take): Max Paciorettywww.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=318393flyers.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=315632&page=NewsPage&service=pagehockeysfuture.com/prospects/max_paciorettyRyan McDonaghAn interview at hockeysfuture: hockeysfuture.com/articles/9702flyers.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=314738&page=NewsPage&service=pageAn interview at hockeybuzz: nhldraftbuzz.blogspot.com/search/label/Ryan%20McDonagh%20Q%20and%20ASo to cheer HA up: Gainey drafted Guillaume Latendresse II and Scott Niedermeyer (or Turner Stevenson and Brisebois). Cheers!
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Post by duster on Jun 23, 2007 7:54:19 GMT -5
Greetings from la Belle Province. I missed the first round due to the fact I was enroute and Air Canada's much lauded new entertainment system wasn't working. Go figure.
I can say that I'm very pleased we got McDonagh. At first glance, he's exactly what the team needed. Like others, I'm surprised Esposito was available and the Habs never attempted to move up a couple of spots or even passed on Perron. Both could be Habs killers as others have opined.
HA, before blaming Gainey, I think it was Timmins' call and he must like Pacioretty and McDonagh an awful lot. I'm sure he (and BG) realized fully that the French media would be less than pleased. A cynic could say he just cost them a gold mine in interviews. Still, perhaps it would have been wiser to not create the expectation in some that picking a francophone would a key consideration. I understand Esposito had that expectation and looked profoundly disappointed.
Definitely a draft that is all over the place as I expected. The second round should be intriguing...
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