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Post by jkr on Oct 9, 2024 20:49:46 GMT -5
I think that Toronto went all of last season without being shutout. I remember hearing late last season. So, that's quite the accomplishment by Montembault.
I'll try to find a link to that shutout stat.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 9, 2024 20:50:02 GMT -5
He also doesn't give up possession by making low percentage passes. You need possession, and shots on net, and players getting to the net. We currently have none of that. We have perimeter passing and then a very low percentage back door pass. That's not Matheson. That's the coaching. I don’t disagree with your ideas, Skilly, I just think Matheson brings None of those, so why is he out there? I guess where we differ is it looks to me that they are not letting Matheson get the puck to the net. He looks to pass to the wing each and every time. Let him shoot. It doesn't have to be a howitzer, just on net, with a screen and then the wings move in for the garbage. But this PP is built around the one time back door to Caufield or Slafkovský. And other teams know we don't have the passers able to pull that pass off consistently |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 9, 2024 20:53:45 GMT -5
I think that Toronto went all of last season without being shutout. I remember hearing late last season. So, that's quite the accomplishment by Montembault. I'll try to find a link to that shutout stat. They haven't been shutout since 2022 |
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Post by franko on Oct 9, 2024 20:56:41 GMT -5
I think that Toronto went all of last season without being shutout. I remember hearing late last season. So, that's quite the accomplishment by Montembault. I'll try to find a link to that shutout stat. They haven't been shutout since 2022 HADN'T! |
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Post by habsgoalie27 on Oct 9, 2024 20:57:43 GMT -5
sweet smell of beating TO love it
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 9, 2024 20:58:27 GMT -5
They haven't been shutout since 2022 HADN'T! Lol.. I stand corrected |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 9, 2024 20:58:56 GMT -5
sweet smell of beating TO love it Sportcentre will be fun |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 9, 2024 20:59:21 GMT -5
I think that Toronto went all of last season without being shutout. I remember hearing late last season. So, that's quite the accomplishment by Montembault. I'll try to find a link to that shutout stat. Toronto had not been shutout since Nov 20, 2021 ... a streak of 252 games , I mean 0 games now 🤣 |
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Post by folatre on Oct 9, 2024 21:05:24 GMT -5
My brother in law texted me, no idea why since I would not troll him, but I guess he had to vent. Basically he was pissed about the core four forwards not getting it done when the whole world was saying new coach, new captain, no excuses. I stayed on side and said 81 games to go so there is no clear reason to jump to conclusions or panic.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 9, 2024 21:09:57 GMT -5
The Vancouver Canucks intros is basically the exact same as Montreals ... we had an orchestra, they have drummers
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 9, 2024 21:37:19 GMT -5
Savor it, could be the only time this season we are +500
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Post by Cranky on Oct 9, 2024 22:32:08 GMT -5
Just finished watching the game and while it feels good to beat the Laffs, 9 out of 10 times we're losing a game like that.
Monty...the ONLY reason we won.
PP...the greatest failure is to be rewarded for...failure. it just reinforces what you shouldn't do.
Slaf...I'm noticing something that is bothering me. When he gets the puck in the center ice, he passes without thinking a step ahead. He'll pass to a guy whomis going to be covered in half a second or he'll pass against the flow and stop it.
Savard...shut down guy playing his game.
BB...is he the new DD? Are you telling me that he's a PP worthy player? Really?
The better team didn't win...but I'll take it.
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Post by frozone on Oct 9, 2024 23:33:02 GMT -5
We actually outplayed the Leafs for a portion of the game, but overall we had no business walking away from this game with 2 points. Hats off to Monty, that was a heck of a performance.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2024 0:28:25 GMT -5
BB...is he the new DD? Are you telling me that he's a PP worthy player? Really? The better team didn't win...but I'll take it. His skating is a real detriment and is very likely the reason the Lightning parted ways with him. His skating just isn't NHL calibre. A lot of his game is, but the skating is too important to ignore. He beat out Roy, but primarily because Roy didn't play with enough intensity. I can't see him replacing Roy in any form whatsoever. A second line of Newhook - Dach - Roy feels so much better to me that the current one. A third line of Kapanen - Dvorak - Armia/Gallagher is better than what we currently have and a fourth line with Evans and any combination of Armia/Gallagher, Anderson, Heineman and Pezzetta is fine. Even though we won, I didn't care for this game. We spent too much time in our end. The Leafs have an easy, quick zone exit system, while the Habs not so much. Matheson played too much again and one can question just how effective he was. At times yes and at other times no. Guhle did an excellent job on Matthews. I missed bits of the game and in evaluating Monty (he was excellent, obviously), I don't recall a lot of spectacular saves. A few, but mostly good positioning, leaving very few holes for the Leafs to aim for. The broadcast crew mentioned goalposts and crossbars, but one can alway say that the goalie's positioning helped create those. Monty had a very good game. The PP continues to worry me. Yes, we scored, and that was a play we saw a lot of last year. It requires the primary assist guy to collect the puck quickly, fire a cross crease pass just as quickly and put it right on Caufield's stick. Fortunately, Slaf is all of that and we got a goal. Monty took care of the rest. I hope Marty makes a few changes for tomorrow. Kapanen and Pezzetta should dress. BB and Heineman should sit. MSL won't do that. BB will play and Pezzetta will dress too. It would be good to have Struble in the game, so Xhekaj will sit. (the bruins aren't as physical as they used to be when Chara was in the game). Sigh....annoyed at Marty's stubbornness. That 5 on 3 was pathetic. |
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 10, 2024 0:55:58 GMT -5
Wow! That was stressful! Maybe I gotta get into mid-season form.
Turning point in the game was not scoring on that 5 on 3. That was a must goal situation to make it 2-0. And we didn't get a sniff. After that it was all Leafs.
Best dman was Hutson at both ends of the ice. He will be on the first PP unit within 10 games. he's that good and the alternatives are that bad.
I thought Slafs was our best forward - strong, good passing, and good hustle. Not impressed with Dach on the PP or 5 on5.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 10, 2024 2:06:16 GMT -5
The PP continues to worry me. Yes, we scored, and that was a play we saw a lot of last year. It requires the primary assist guy to collect the puck quickly, fire a cross crease pass just as quickly and put it right on Caufield's stick. Fortunately, Slaf is all of that and we got a goal. Monty took care of the rest. Sigh....annoyed at Marty's stubbornness. That 5 on 3 was pathetic. I joined the game very late and mistook the first period as the last period. When I thought that CC had another goal, I was perplexed. Am I wrong in my assessment? Two goals from the same spot? They will never change the PP. Then I saw it was 1-0. The worse thing in the universe is to reward failure. It reinforces it to the point where it's far, far harder to change. Stubborn becomes hardened glue. With the new and improved corporate huggy atmosphere, no one is likely to tell Marty he's effing it up and has to change. So, expect a lot more of this PP brilliance before you see a change. |
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Post by Polarice on Oct 10, 2024 5:25:19 GMT -5
Nice to get the win!! Good to see that PP goal as well. MSL has to realize he needs a cannon on the point during the PP, I would love to see Hutson and Wifi working the 2nd unit for a few games just to see what the results would be.
Leafs were in our end way too much, however, a large percentage of their shots were not in the "danger zones", and the ones that were Monty had the answer. We have to work on exiting our zone when under pressure, hopefully some experience will correct that.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Oct 10, 2024 5:28:57 GMT -5
The PP continues to worry me. Yes, we scored, and that was a play we saw a lot of last year. It requires the primary assist guy to collect the puck quickly, fire a cross crease pass just as quickly and put it right on Caufield's stick. Fortunately, Slaf is all of that and we got a goal. Monty took care of the rest. Sigh....annoyed at Marty's stubbornness. That 5 on 3 was pathetic. I joined the game very late and mistook the first period as the last period. When I thought that CC had another goal, I was perplexed. Am I wrong in my assessment? Two goals from the same spot? They will never change the PP. Then I saw it was 1- The worse thing in the universe is to reward failure. It reinforces it to the point where it's far, far harder to change. Stubborn becomes hardened glue. With the new and improved corporate huggy atmosphere, no one is likely to tell Marty he's effing it up and has to change. So, expect a lot more of this PP brilliance before you see a change. We don’t have a Nylander Marner or elite talent but we have two points. Great goaltending by Montembeault and the post brothers. Beating TO is always great. |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 6:57:56 GMT -5
Caufield’s goal was his 13th point in his 13th game versus Toronto and his first wearing #13.
Johnny Gaudreau may bring the forum ghosts back
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Post by jkr on Oct 10, 2024 8:19:17 GMT -5
Caufield’s goal was his 13th point in his 13th game versus Toronto and his first wearing #13. Johnny Gaudreau may bring the forum ghosts back That's a little eerie. |
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Post by jkr on Oct 10, 2024 8:22:52 GMT -5
I think that Toronto went all of last season without being shutout. I remember hearing late last season. So, that's quite the accomplishment by Montembault. I'll try to find a link to that shutout stat. Toronto had not been shutout since Nov 20, 2021 ... a streak of 252 games , I mean 0 games now 🤣 Thanks for bailing me out. It will be fun walking around town with my Habs hat on. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 10, 2024 8:47:16 GMT -5
Michael Matheson 26:35 TOI, tops on the team ... Kaiden Guhle 23:45 and played against Austin Matthews all night ...
Cheers.
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Post by Andrew on Oct 10, 2024 9:36:03 GMT -5
There were a few times where a Habs forward had the puck on their stick near the blue line and coughed it up, leading to an extended sequence of running around in our own end. Those need to be cleaned up. And that 33% faceoff percentage can be improved upon.
Not to make excuses for them, but I wonder if the farce of a preseason contributed to a number of Habs reacting slow to plays and not being as sharp as you’d expect. The top line had a few moments but was mostly in tough against the Matthews line.
What a game by snacks in goal! Hutson looked good tonight also.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2024 10:09:24 GMT -5
Caufield’s goal was his 13th point in his 13th game versus Toronto and his first wearing #13. Johnny Gaudreau may bring the forum ghosts back That's a little eerie. The goal was scored with 12:12 remaining in the period … so in the 13th min of time remaining |
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Post by franko on Oct 10, 2024 10:26:33 GMT -5
Hopefully he scores more than 13 goals this year.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 10, 2024 10:49:43 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2024 11:24:54 GMT -5
Michael Matheson 26:35 TOI, tops on the team ... Kaiden Guhle 23:45 and played against Austin Matthews all night ... Cheers. I sense an echo.  . Sometimes I get the wrong thread too. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2024 11:31:19 GMT -5
Not to make excuses for them, but I wonder if the farce of a preseason contributed to a number of Habs reacting slow to plays and not being as sharp as you’d expect. The top line had a few moments but was mostly in tough against the Matthews line. That's a good point, Andrew. Too much emphasis on who was going to make the roster and (yet again) not enough preparation for the upcoming season. Habs were a touch slow with timing and pace. At least that failing didn't cost us this time. I hope we're better against Boston. A key will be whether or not Swayman plays and if he does, is his timing up to par? In the Florida game, I think the Bruins might have won with better goaltending. Korpisalo was bad. Lucky Florida. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 10, 2024 12:12:01 GMT -5
Michael Matheson 26:35 TOI, tops on the team ... Kaiden Guhle 23:45 and played against Austin Matthews all night ... Cheers. I sense an echo. . Sometimes I get the wrong thread too.  |
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Post by jkr on Oct 10, 2024 13:14:19 GMT -5
Don't blame Reaves. Its hard to get stuff done when your total ice time is 7:36.  |
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