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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 14, 2024 21:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 16, 2024 0:50:38 GMT -5
Classic shot of Desjardins! This is a must win to show this team is better than last year. Kings are not very good and will be on B2B road games after playing TO. We will have rested for 3 days and Marty will have had time to fix all our problems.  2 points is a must! |
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Post by folatre on Oct 16, 2024 5:53:39 GMT -5
The memories always remain. It is hard to believe 31-32 have passed by. Great work, thanks Dis.
Yes, I agree, this is a crucial game for a number of reasons. First and foremost, it is a priori an accessible one because the Kings have a very average roster, no studs in net, and the disadvantage of playing the night before. The other main reason relates to what you were saying, habsorbed, about demonstrating that mistakes get corrected rather excused or normalized.
I really want to see Montreal take fewer penalties, improve their ice balance 5v5, and just be more direct offensively (shots on net).
I know this scares some fans, but I really think the right call is Primeau tonight. The Kings are not a particularly talented group and for me it is better to go with one's top goalie on Saturday against a conference rival where the stakes for the two points are higher.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Oct 16, 2024 9:15:15 GMT -5
Must win? Crucial? Sometimes I feel like I'm watching a different team than others or at least my expectations are very, very different. I view this a single game in the development process and nothing more. The Habs are so early in their rebuild and are so young that it's going to be a year full of ups and downs. As long as the long term trajectory is up, I'm happy. Go ahead, play around with lines and d pairings, learn about the players, learn about coaching, take chances, learn from mistakes, learn from winning and losing. Just learn, develop and build strong relationships. I love where this team is headed and believe this game or their record this year will have very little impact on where they are in the coming years based on the character of the core. I love this frikin process.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 16, 2024 12:17:00 GMT -5
I’m in the other camp
Unless it is back to back, you play Monty.
I don’t care about load management and developing Primeau. You ride Monty like he is a true #1. Dobes or Fowler are the backups next year or 2 years out, so I’m not concerned about Primeau earning money riding pine
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Post by Cranky on Oct 16, 2024 12:53:49 GMT -5
I don't watch the Habs to see them lose. In fact, i normally reward second rate efforts with the DELETE button.
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Post by folatre on Oct 16, 2024 18:53:06 GMT -5
Skilly, I understand that point of view about the goalies. But Montembeault has never been a number 1 (41, 40, and 38 games in his three full NHL seasons) and Montreal is not paying him like one. He is a tandem guy until he isn't. I do believe 2024-25 is the next step in his career, which should be 50-52 starts.
Going exclusively by the back to back template, Montembeault would start 9 of the Habs' 11 games in October. That is a load, which over the course of season would project to something like 65-67 starts, which is totally old school.
Hockey is debatable, but I think management and Coach St. Louis have got to get Primeau back in there. Look, I like Montembeault better but fans of other teams who do not watch a lot of Habs games would just look at the numbers from last season and conclude, meh they are basically the same.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Oct 16, 2024 20:10:45 GMT -5
I don't watch the Habs to see them lose. In fact, i normally reward second rate efforts with the DELETE button. On the bright side you'll have some strong fingers by the end of season |
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Post by jkr on Oct 16, 2024 20:55:35 GMT -5
I watched the Kings against the Sens. With Kuemper in goal & Doughty out long term it looks scary for Kings fans. They gave up 8 in Ottawa & 5 so far tonight in Toronto.
So, unless LA turns things around in a hurry, Habs shooters should have some opportunities.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 16, 2024 21:22:20 GMT -5
I watched the Kings against the Sens. With Kuemper in goal & Doughty out long term it looks scary for Kings fans. They gave up 8 in Ottawa & 5 so far tonight in Toronto. So, unless LA turns things around in a hurry, Habs shooters should have some opportunities. And they better cash in on their opportunities. I'm looking for growth. Are we nolonger bottom 5 team? Time to show it! |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 16, 2024 21:24:30 GMT -5
The loafs pumped the Kings 6-2... we better beat the kings
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Post by Cranky on Oct 16, 2024 22:01:39 GMT -5
I don't watch the Habs to see them lose. In fact, i normally reward second rate efforts with the DELETE button. On the bright side you'll have some strong fingers by the end of season I use my middle finger and it's getting arthritis from use in the last 3 years. The downside has an upside. If we're a bottom 5 team because of our brilliant systems and coaching, MSL has a foot out the door. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 16, 2024 22:14:58 GMT -5
Skilly, I understand that point of view about the goalies. But Montembeault has never been a number 1 (41, 40, and 38 games in his three full NHL seasons) and Montreal is not paying him like one. He is a tandem guy until he isn't. I do believe 2024-25 is the next step in his career, which should be 50-52 starts. Going exclusively by the back to back template, Montembeault would start 9 of the Habs' 11 games in October. That is a load, which over the course of season would project to something like 65-67 starts, which is totally old school. Hockey is debatable, but I think management and Coach St. Louis have got to get Primeau back in there. Look, I like Montembeault better but fans of other teams who do not watch a lot of Habs games would just look at the numbers from last season and conclude, meh they are basically the same. Primeau can't stink up the joint like the last game. A couple of starts like that and Dobes gets his starts. Dobes gets his starts and plays well, Primeau is done and a big hit on his career. I rather ride Monty then lose games because we fear that he may be tired by seasons end. This doesn't make sense because if we are out of it by February, because we are "saving" Monty, it won't matter who we put in nets. Ancient Greek Saying (i just made up)...100 year old grandma can't save money for ballet lessons. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 16, 2024 23:16:02 GMT -5
On the bright side you'll have some strong fingers by the end of season I use my middle finger and it's getting arthritis from use in the last 3 years. The downside has an upside. If we're a bottom 5 team because of our brilliant systems and coaching, MSL has a foot out the door. Use of the middle finger is not only good for your arthritis, it's appropriate. |
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 17, 2024 0:26:16 GMT -5
I see both Kings goalies got action against the Leafs. Copley gave up 2 goals on 12 shots. Rittich gave up 4 goals on 14 shots. i guess Kings may be pumped to turn things around against Mtl. BUT I ain't accepting no excuses from Marty & Co. This better be 2 points in the bank!
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 17, 2024 0:55:04 GMT -5
Sounds like Struble is good to go. Listening to McCagg and Marinaro, they believe that X will be the odd man out and sitting in the press box.
They point to the face that X has had his TOI decrease each of the last 2 games and the belief that MSL only trusts him enough to play against the opponent's third and fourth lines.
Will be interesting
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Post by drkcloud on Oct 17, 2024 1:17:04 GMT -5
Kirby Dach may or may not play, he's apparently suffering from something and wasn't on the ice for practice.
Also, his face-off win percentage on the season so far sits at 18.8%. That's not sustainable from a puck possession pov. He may find himself back on the wing very soon, leaving maybe Newhook as our number 2? McCagg feels Dvorak has played well enough to be the number 2 and us much better on faceoffs. I sure hope not
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 17, 2024 1:51:20 GMT -5
Kirby Dach may or may not play, he's apparently suffering from something and wasn't on the ice for practice. Also, his face-off win percentage on the season so far sits at 18.8%. That's not sustainable from a puck possession pov. He may find himself back on the wing very soon, leaving maybe Newhook as our number 2? McCagg feels Dvorak has played well enough to be the number 2 and us much better on faceoffs. I sure hope not If Dvo is our 2nd line center then I'm going to start paying a lot more attention to the articles on the 2025 top draft prospects. Dvo is useless offensivley. One assist in 4 games. And that's his career in a nutshell. I'd much rather try Newhook or Kapanen. At least they have a future with Le Club. Dvo is gone by trade deadline at the latest. The sooner we can get rid of the MB deadwood (Dvo, Gally, Josh, and Armia) the sooner we will be able to compete. Oh, and did I mention the $20 million in cap space the QuadSquad will free up? |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 17, 2024 4:27:42 GMT -5
Dach playing semi dead creates an enormous issue for the team. We are essentially a one line team that is going to go nowhere fast.
Laine and Dach were suppose to be the incredible second line with a 70-80 goal potential..and here we are.
I didn't notice a lack of speed on Dach, just a lack of sevondary effort. His 6'4" domination last year is nowhere to be seen. Is it an injury or between the ears?
Oh boy...we're in trouble...
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Post by folatre on Oct 17, 2024 5:34:46 GMT -5
Boys, it takes a lot of guys six months of game action after a major surgery in order to feel as strong and confident as pre-injury. I am not worried in that regard. The faceoff issue is whole different story because Dach has terrible on draws ever since he broke into the league. If no coaches or skill specialists can correct that issue, then he probably will have to end up on the wing.
Dvorak wins faceoffs and generally pays attention to what he is supposed to be doing defensively, but those are basically the extent of his strengths as a NHL forward. He does not drive play. His skating is average. His handle is average. His vision is average. His shot is probably somewhat above average, but he rarely gets in position to use it. He is soft. Let us just hope he stays healthy and relatively productive so Hughes can get an asset for him at the deadline.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Oct 17, 2024 9:15:49 GMT -5
On the bright side you'll have some strong fingers by the end of season I use my middle finger and it's getting arthritis from use in the last 3 years. The downside has an upside. If we're a bottom 5 team because of our brilliant systems and coaching, MSL has a foot out the door. Hahah! a propos To boot we'd get a top 5 pick. However I think we'll hover around 500 all year flirting with mediocrity. |
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 17, 2024 13:20:35 GMT -5
Sounds like Struble is good to go. Listening to McCagg and Marinaro, they believe that X will be the odd man out and sitting in the press box. They point to the face that X has had his TOI decrease each of the last 2 games and the belief that MSL only trusts him enough to play against the opponent's third and fourth lines. Will be interesting Does McCagg just guess at this stuff? I'm reading (Gazette) that it will be the same line-up as last game and Monty is starting. He did not start 3 consecutive games last year. Welcome to the #1 role Monty! Good luck! |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2024 18:16:14 GMT -5
Anderson couldn't get the puck in the ocean if he was on the beach, this goes for dvo, Evans and armia
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2024 18:16:54 GMT -5
Monty is saving there ass again in the 1st
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Post by Skilly on Oct 17, 2024 18:17:40 GMT -5
Kirby Dach may or may not play, he's apparently suffering from something and wasn't on the ice for practice. Also, his face-off win percentage on the season so far sits at 18.8%. That's not sustainable from a puck possession pov. He may find himself back on the wing very soon, leaving maybe Newhook as our number 2? McCagg feels Dvorak has played well enough to be the number 2 and us much better on faceoffs. I sure hope not The 2024-25 Kirby Dach is the Kirby Dach Chicago was happy to trade |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2024 18:19:03 GMT -5
Barron with the wrap around... great skating and puck possession
1-0 habs
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Post by Skilly on Oct 17, 2024 18:20:47 GMT -5
Dach playing semi dead creates an enormous issue for the team. We are essentially a one line team that is going to go nowhere fast. Laine and Dach were suppose to be the incredible second line with a 70-80 goal potential..and here we are. I didn't notice a lack of speed on Dach, just a lack of sevondary effort. His 6'4" domination last year is nowhere to be seen. Is it an injury or between the ears? Oh boy...we're in trouble... If Dach doesn't get out of his funk, Laine is going to look like a terrible acquisition. He needs a centre with vision, not one that looks like he going through the motions |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 17, 2024 18:23:58 GMT -5
Boys, it takes a lot of guys six months of game action after a major surgery in order to feel as strong and confident as pre-injury. I am not worried in that regard. The faceoff issue is whole different story because Dach has terrible on draws ever since he broke into the league. If no coaches or skill specialists can correct that issue, then he probably will have to end up on the wing. Dvorak wins faceoffs and generally pays attention to what he is supposed to be doing defensively, but those are basically the extent of his strengths as a NHL forward. He does not drive play. His skating is average. His handle is average. His vision is average. His shot is probably somewhat above average, but he rarely gets in position to use it. He is soft. Let us just hope he stays healthy and relatively productive so Hughes can get an asset for him at the deadline. I am flabbergasted I used to critique those that used this foolish 20 game rule. Now it's 6 MONTHS! The season is only 7 months. Waste a full year waiting for Dach to trust his leg? He had a full year of rehab, a full training camp. Those put more wear on his leg than a game ever would |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 17, 2024 18:26:14 GMT -5
Talking to myself...
1st
Monty in nets...and two great saves to start
Barron...expresses his inner Bobby Orr...great move
Hutson p3rfect pass to Armia...dead fish.
Dach...is he alive? Dead? In transition between the two? If he gave a little bit more effort there isn't a 1st LA goal
2nd
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Post by Skilly on Oct 17, 2024 18:26:45 GMT -5
Anderson couldn't get the puck in the ocean if he was on the beach, this goes for dvo, Evans and armia Fast as lightning, hands of thunder ... boisterous but no flash |
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