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Post by HFTO on Jun 28, 2007 17:21:00 GMT -5
That was a stunner but with no Guy the Habs were done.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jun 28, 2007 17:24:08 GMT -5
Don't know if this has been posted yet... BRIERE DECLINES SABRES' OFFER The Buffalo Sabres are going to have dig a lot deeper if the team intends on holding on to veteran forward Daniel Briere.
The Sabres tabled an offer to briere on Wednesday night. The offer is believed to be very similar to the package Briere tried to get Buffalo to agree to last summer -- which was $25 million over five years.
Briere ended up going to arbitration last summer and was awarded a one year contract for $5 million.
The latest offer from the Sabres has been declined and there's a strong sense Briere is set to go to free agency on Sunday.
As many as 10 teams are believed to be in the hunt for one of either Daniel Briere, Chris Drury, or Scott Gomez, with the asking price for each player starting at $6 million.www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=212162&hubname=nhl* Sabres look really dumb for playing hardball with Briere last summer and not signing him long-term. Now they have to face the consequences. |
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Post by HFTO on Jun 28, 2007 17:28:28 GMT -5
Crazy speculation and unfounded reports obviously, have the Habs offering Briere 7 years between $45-50 million?
If that was true is it too much for a player who will be 36 at the end of the contract?
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Post by franko on Jun 28, 2007 17:54:42 GMT -5
Crazy speculation and unfounded reports obviously, have the Habs offering Briere 7 years between $45-50 million? If that was true is it too much for a player who will be 36 at the end of the contract? HFTO I've heard some say that we're going to have to overpay to get someone here . . .  |
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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2007 18:09:44 GMT -5
Don't know if this has been posted yet... Sabres look really dumb for playing hardball with Briere last summer and not signing him long-term. Now they have to face the consequences. I don't think Regier has handled his UFAs well this year. As you stated, he could have had Briere last year for the money he's refusing now. He could have dealt Biron during last year's off season when he still had a year left on his contract and some real value. He waits until the trade deadline & Philly gets him for a 2nd rounder. And now what does he do with Drury - run to him with the offer Briere turned down or has Regier given up on signing him anyway? I think he'll come up with a better offer because he's up the creek if both of these guys leave. It's a similar situation to Markov/Souray. At least Gainey ended the suspense early. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2007 18:12:08 GMT -5
Crazy speculation and unfounded reports obviously, have the Habs offering Briere 7 years between $45-50 million? If that was true is it too much for a player who will be 36 at the end of the contract? HFTO I've heard some say that we're going to have to overpay to get someone here . . . I wouldn't be surprised if that is close. The rumored numbers for Markov ended up being pretty accurate. That's the kind of term & dollars it is going to take to get a star to come to Montreal. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 28, 2007 19:25:10 GMT -5
Don't know if this has been posted yet... BRIERE DECLINES SABRES' OFFER The Buffalo Sabres are going to have dig a lot deeper if the team intends on holding on to veteran forward Daniel Briere.
The Sabres tabled an offer to briere on Wednesday night. The offer is believed to be very similar to the package Briere tried to get Buffalo to agree to last summer -- which was $25 million over five years.
Briere ended up going to arbitration last summer and was awarded a one year contract for $5 million.
The latest offer from the Sabres has been declined and there's a strong sense Briere is set to go to free agency on Sunday.
As many as 10 teams are believed to be in the hunt for one of either Daniel Briere, Chris Drury, or Scott Gomez, with the asking price for each player starting at $6 million.www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=212162&hubname=nhl* Sabres look really dumb for playing hardball with Briere last summer and not signing him long-term. Now they have to face the consequences. Lockout ... pffffttt!!!! |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2007 21:00:47 GMT -5
Sabres look really dumb for playing hardball with Briere last summer and not signing him long-term. Now they have to face the consequences. Our GM is going to find himself in the same boat with Ryder. Ryder would have signed a 3 yr deal last year in the 2.0-2.5 million range. In fact, he would have signed a 3 yr deal between 1.0-1.5 the previous yr. Now Gainey is goin to have to pay 3.0 million or more. If Gainey refuses, Ryder walks for nothing .... if Ryder is signed it will be only until he can find a trading partner (because he loses him in the of season) |
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Post by habmeister on Jun 28, 2007 21:28:12 GMT -5
Crazy speculation and unfounded reports obviously, have the Habs offering Briere 7 years between $45-50 million? If that was true is it too much for a player who will be 36 at the end of the contract? HFTO for a guy that hasn't done anything in the playoffs?! this had better be a joke! that could handcuff us for years. i'm not a briere fan, and hope that he signs somewhere else and we get shutout this summer from any "big" names. big names to me are: crosby, thornton, lecavalier, sakic, jagr, niedermayer....i know briere finished 10th in scoring, but that was in large part due to his supporting cast, including the back end. he hasn't proven enough to me. btw, playoff stats daniel briere last season 3 goals in 16 games. career 13 goals in 40 games, alexei kovalev career 37 goals in 100 games. chris drury last season 8 goals in 16 games. career 43 goals in 114 games give me drury anyday, and i'd pay more for him too. but we all know why everyone is targeting briere dont' we? |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jun 28, 2007 22:56:40 GMT -5
Our GM is going to find himself in the same boat with Ryder. Ryder would have signed a 3 yr deal last year in the 2.0-2.5 million range. In fact, he would have signed a 3 yr deal between 1.0-1.5 the previous yr. Yup. Gainey really dropped the ball on that one. Ryder is a huge part of the Habs and, similar to Higgins and Komisarek, should be counted on to be the future of the Habs. Hopefully Gainey can sign him long-term this time around, but I don't think that it's going to happen. It looks more likely that Ryder goes to arbitration this year and leaves as a free agent next summer. But if Ryder does sign a one-year deal this summer, Gainey should trade him before the season starts instead of losing him for nothing next offseason. give me drury anyday, and i'd pay more for him too. but we all know why everyone is targeting briere dont' we? Come playoff time, I would rather have Drury too, but remember that it's Briere's regular season numbers that would help us get to the playoffs. Drury is a 55-65 point player. Some team is going to severely overpay for him at over $6M per season. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 29, 2007 6:47:43 GMT -5
for a guy that hasn't done anything in the playoffs?! This year, 15 points in 15 games, most points on the team. The previous year, 19 points in 18 games, most points on the team. If that is doing nothing, than I'd take that for sure. Not saying I wouldn't take Drury as well, he's very good too, as are Gomez, Smyth, Marleau, etc... I don't get why some people need to discredit a player to promote another. Briere is a great player and any team would be better with him. Even Monteal's powerhouse could probably find a way to use him. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 29, 2007 7:22:10 GMT -5
Sabres look really dumb for playing hardball with Briere last summer and not signing him long-term. Now they have to face the consequences. Our GM is going to find himself in the same boat with Ryder. Ryder would have signed a 3 yr deal last year in the 2.0-2.5 million range. In fact, he would have signed a 3 yr deal between 1.0-1.5 the previous yr. Now Gainey is goin to have to pay 3.0 million or more. If Gainey refuses, Ryder walks for nothing .... if Ryder is signed it will be only until he can find a trading partner (because he loses him in the of season) Very good points skilly. By now he'd be locked up and considered a bargain. Have to wait and see what the future brings I guess. Cheers. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 29, 2007 7:47:08 GMT -5
Don't know if this has been posted yet... Sabres look really dumb for playing hardball with Briere last summer and not signing him long-term. Now they have to face the consequences. I don't think Regier has handled his UFAs well this year. As you stated, he could have had Briere last year for the money he's refusing now. He could have dealt Biron during last year's off season when he still had a year left on his contract and some real value. He waits until the trade deadline & Philly gets him for a 2nd rounder. And now what does he do with Drury - run to him with the offer Briere turned down or has Regier given up on signing him anyway? I think he'll come up with a better offer because he's up the creek if both of these guys leave. It's a similar situation to Markov/Souray. At least Gainey ended the suspense early. IMO Drury is plan A in Buffalo. If they can sign Drury, they won't sign Briere but once they're convinced that Drury can't be signed, they know they can turn around and offer a 30mil/5yr contract to Briere and everyone will be happy with it. Briere is their insurance, they know he wants to stay and they know how much it's gonna cost. I agree with you though that this situation should have been figured out by now as they certainly risk to lose Drury and upset Briere enough in the process that he'll just want to gauge other team's interest. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 29, 2007 9:17:42 GMT -5
A little more info: DANIEL BRIERE: “I wish things would have gotten done earlier with Buffalo, but they didn’t.”Briere rejects Sabres' offer as time ticks away
Briere off to California to field free agent offers
By Tim Graham
Updated: 06/29/07 8:48 AM
Daniel Briere landed in Southern California on Thursday afternoon. That’s bad news for Buffalo Sabres fans. The club’s scoring king was to meet co-captain Chris Drury, who lives in Manhattan Beach, Calif., and discuss their intentions.
The NHL free agency period begins at noon Sunday, and contracts for both centers are up. As two of the more coveted unrestricted free agents, they’re bound to field several lucrative offers.
But the main reason Briere jetted to the coast wasn’t to talk shop with Drury. Briere journeyed there to be with his agent, Pat Brisson, so they can evaluate each offer together.
One offer they apparently didn’t need to talk over was the one Buffalo just made. Brisson rejected the five-year offer believed to be worth about $25 million. Briere wanted a similar long-term deal last summer, but the Sabres weren’t interested. Instead, he went to arbitration and was awarded a one-year contract for $5 million.
Although the All-Star Game MVP claimed he hasn’t given up on re-signing with the Sabres, his decision to man a war room of sorts with Brisson doesn’t bode well.
“It’s exciting,” Briere said of free agency. “I’ve never been through it before. If it gets there, I just want to be around where it’s going to happen and where my agent’s going to be so we can deal with it directly and not over the phone, relaying messages. I want to be there when the offers come in.”
Briere on Thursday confirmed the Sabres, after nearly six weeks of indifference, had finally extended an offer. Minutes later, he learned Brisson had rejected it.
Sabres managing partner Larry Quinn declined to discuss any of the club’s pending free agents.
“We’re just not saying anything,” Quinn said. “Obviously, it’s a sensitive time for us, and we feel that saying anything at all would be a hindrance to the negotiating process.
“I’m sure it’ll be an interesting weekend.”
With less than 72 hours to go until the doors swing open on the NHL free agency market, Briere might as well wait and see how the Sabres’ interest compares to the rest of the league.
“I wish things would have gotten done earlier with Buffalo, but they didn’t,” Briere said. “There’s always a little fear that nobody’s going to call and nobody’s going to want you, but the point of going through this is you want to feel wanted, and you wonder how they’re going to show it.”
Briere needn’t worry about apathy from other teams. He won’t be 30 until October, and he’s coming off a stellar campaign in which he had 32 goals and 63 assists to lead the Sabres in scoring.
It takes only one motivated suitor to extend the offer Briere can’t refuse and the Sabres can’t compete with. He alluded to a pair of former Buffalo teammates who were stunned by the attention they received.
Defenseman Jay McKee hit the open market, and the St. Louis Blues blew him away with a four-year, $16 million bid. Winger J.P. Dumont became unrestricted when the Sabres walked away from his $2.9 million arbitration judgment. He signed with the Nashville Predators for two years and $4.5 million.
“We hear rumors like everyone else, but until it starts you never know what can happen,” Briere said. “I look at other guys who went through this before me, like Jay McKee, where offers came out of nowhere. I look at J.P. Dumont, and although his didn’t happen July 1, he had a lot of discussions with many teams, and then Nashville came out of nowhere.”
The Sabres haven’t even bothered to contact at least two of their players on the brink of unrestricted free agency.
“Nothing,” defenseman and alternate captain Teppo Numminen said Thursday night from his home in Finland. “It’s been quiet. But it was the same way last year, so I’m OK.
“It seems like that’s the way things work. That’s the way [the Sabres] do things. That’s the way they do their business.”
Numminen, who turns 39 next week, said he’ll definitely play another season whether it’s for Buffalo or not.
Dainius Zubrus, the Sabres’ big trade-deadline acquisition, insisted Buffalo still rates high on his list of potential destinations, but with time dwindling and no offer to consider, he’s come to the realization he likely was a rental player for the playoffs and nothing more.
“Honestly, I don’t know what will happen, but at the same it doesn’t look too promising,” Zubrus said from his summer home in Montreal. Didn't know Zubrus summered in Montreal
Zubrus said he would like to remain in the Eastern Conference, but said he’s open to playing almost anywhere.
“This is exciting for me,” Zubrus said. “I’ve never experienced [unrestricted free agency] after 11 years. You just don’t know what’s going to happen, but there’s just a couple of days left until I get to a time I’ve always looked forward to.”The link. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 29, 2007 9:26:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the process works?
Is it just Briere and his agent sitting in a hotel room receiving offer sheets from other teams over the fax machine? I imagine each team would get 30 minutes to have a conference call with the player to go over all the pluses about playing for their team and what the vision is. Obviously the player would want to ask a ton of questions to determine if it's a good fit. I know lots of players don't decide on July 1 but it seems like lots of players sign right away and isn't contact forbidden until July?
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 29, 2007 9:46:07 GMT -5
That was a stunner but with no Guy the Habs were done. HFTO I believe Pat Boutette kneed Lafleur in the deciding Game 3 of the Hartford series just before that...and knocked him out of the playoffs. Some say Lafleur was never the same again...as his numbers certainly would indicate. He was only 28 years old...and had just come off his 6th consecutive season with at least 50 goals, finishing 12 points behind Dionne and Gretzky in scoring. He still had a lot in the tank....numbers most welcome on today's Habs....but not as dominating as he had been. 80/81 51GP 27 43 70 81/82 66GP 27 57 84 82/83 68GP 27 49 76 83/84 80GP 30 40 70 (12 playoff games...just 3 assists. The Habs lost to the Islanders in 6 games, after having a 2-0 lead in the series. I remember Trottier nailing Gainey into the boards. A huge hit. That was the year Steve Penney came out of nowhere.) 84/85 19GP 2 3 5 (retired) Shutt traded to LA after 10 games. Don't know how the coaching affected Lafleur's play. Ruel came in after Bowman left. Then Bob Berry took over in 81; Lemaire in 84. Many say Lemaire treated him very poorly. I still say it was the knee. Superstars don't usually retire at 33. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 29, 2007 9:55:21 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the process works? Is it just Briere and his agent sitting in a hotel room receiving offer sheets from other teams over the fax machine? I imagine each team would get 30 minutes to have a conference call with the player to go over all the pluses about playing for their team and what the vision is. Obviously the player would want to ask a ton of questions to determine if it's a good fit. I know lots of players don't decide on July 1 but it seems like lots of players sign right away and isn't contact forbidden until July? Dunno about all of them but Shanahan, for instance, was invited to Montreal and got to tour the city in an helicopter, got to tour the installations, etc... He really took his time to pick the team that was right for him. Other UFAs are gone at 00:01 on July first ! IMO Briere was a little surprised himself that Brisson didn't jump on the Sabres 25mil/5yr offer... As funny at it may seem, many players are very insecure... To his own admittance Andrei Markov was very afraid that the contract wouldn't get done with Montreal... From the article Dis quotes, I believe Daniel is in that category. IF he hits free agency, the suspense won't last long. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 29, 2007 10:03:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the process works? Is it just Briere and his agent sitting in a hotel room receiving offer sheets from other teams over the fax machine? I imagine each team would get 30 minutes to have a conference call with the player to go over all the pluses about playing for their team and what the vision is. Obviously the player would want to ask a ton of questions to determine if it's a good fit. I know lots of players don't decide on July 1 but it seems like lots of players sign right away and isn't contact forbidden until July? Dunno about all of them but Shanahan, for instance, was invited to Montreal and got to tour the city in an helicopter, got to tour the installations, etc... IMO Briere was a little surprised himself that Brisson didn't jump on the Sabres 25mil/5yr offer... As funny at it may seem, many players are very insecure... To his own admittance Andrei Markov was very afraid that the contract wouldn't get done with Montreal... Reading through the last article I suspect Briere's loyalties are probably where most players' loyalties are nowadays; to the highest bidder. I'm getting the feeling that it doesn't look good for the Habs at this point. Someone will overpay him and he'll bolt. Just a feeling. Hope I'm wrong. Cheers. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 29, 2007 10:21:16 GMT -5
Dunno about all of them but Shanahan, for instance, was invited to Montreal and got to tour the city in an helicopter, got to tour the installations, etc... IMO Briere was a little surprised himself that Brisson didn't jump on the Sabres 25mil/5yr offer... As funny at it may seem, many players are very insecure... To his own admittance Andrei Markov was very afraid that the contract wouldn't get done with Montreal... Reading through the last article I suspect Briere's loyalties are probably where most players' loyalties are nowadays; to the highest bidder. I'm getting the feeling that it doesn't look good for the Habs at this point. Someone will overpay him and he'll bolt. Just a feeling. Hope I'm wrong. Cheers. I think Briere would prefer to stay in Buffalo but he must be wondering what the heck is going on. The Sabres had 6 weeks to talk & don't tender an offer until June 27? I'd be a little ticked too. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 29, 2007 10:32:57 GMT -5
I think Briere would prefer to stay in Buffalo but he must be wondering what the heck is going on. The Sabres had 6 weeks to talk & don't tender an offer until June 27? I'd be a little ticked too. That's my feeling as well. Briere doesn't come off as a money hungry player to me but Buffalo seems to make it quite tough on him. |
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Post by habmeister on Jun 29, 2007 11:25:25 GMT -5
i have to continue to believe that more players than dandy are willing to come home to play for the once glorious canadiens before their career is done. i can't believe that a kid like pk subban is more excited to wear the bleu blanc et rouge than briere.
BUT, bob has trouble signing ryder, higgins and komi to more than 2 year deals, why would he offer briere such a long term deal at that high of a price? i don't buy it.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 29, 2007 16:07:52 GMT -5
I think Briere would prefer to stay in Buffalo but he must be wondering what the heck is going on. The Sabres had 6 weeks to talk & don't tender an offer until June 27? I'd be a little ticked too. That's my feeling as well. Briere doesn't come off as a money hungry player to me but Buffalo seems to make it quite tough on him. Honestly, this is the way Houle would treat negotiations. He seemed to stall quite a bit, go on holidays and then face the panic when he got back. As far as the Sabres are concerned they might just lose both of their centres at the same time. Briere's days in Buffalo likely over
Darren Dreger
6/29/2007 4:00:03 PM
Daniel Briere's days with the Buffalo Sabres appear to be over.
Briere's agent, Pat Brisson has informed Sabres management his client intends on investigating his options in unrestricted free agency.
"We've made a decision to go to July 1st," Brisson told TSN.ca. "We haven't closed the door on the idea of returning to Buffalo entirely, however out of respect to Darcy Regier and the organization we felt it was important to make our intentions clear."
On Wednesday the Sabres tabled a 5 year, $25-million dollar offer that falls well short of the expectations Briere as one of the three key centremen potentially available on Sunday is expected to command.
Meanwhile, Briere's teammate Chris Drury was also extended a multi-year contract, although the belief is he too will explore the market before making any final decisions on his future.
As many as 10 teams are believed to be in the lineup for Drury, Briere and Scott Gomez.
A source close to Gomez acknowledges there is a chance the speedy forward will return to the New Jersey Devils, however unless the Devils make an unexpected final pitch, that chance is described as "unlikely." |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jun 29, 2007 16:23:13 GMT -5
he hasn't proven enough to me. btw, playoff stats daniel briere last season 3 goals in 16 games. career 13 goals in 40 games, alexei kovalev career 37 goals in 100 games. chris drury last season 8 goals in 16 games. career 43 goals in 114 games give me drury anyday, and i'd pay more for him too. but we all know why everyone is targeting briere dont' we? I should've clarified my earlier post in comparing Drury and Briere... I know that I said that I would rather have Drury in the playoffs, but I meant to compliment Drury's grit. At the same time I didn't want to downplay Briere's career playoff performance in the process. H & C, you're only looking at goals in the playoffs. If you compare playoff PPG, then Briere blows Drury out of the water. Briere: 40 GP, 37 pts; PPG 0.92 Drury: 114 GP, 81 pts; PPG 0.71 Let's not skew the stats and make Briere look like a slouch in the postseason. He's more than capable of contributing big numbers. He's a proven playoff performer IMO. Drury has more grit and he'll do more of the little things for your team (like blocking shots, etc.) but Briere's an NHL star and he deserves to be respected as such. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 29, 2007 17:30:45 GMT -5
Dunno about all of them but Shanahan, for instance, was invited to Montreal and got to tour the city in an helicopter, got to tour the installations, etc... IMO Briere was a little surprised himself that Brisson didn't jump on the Sabres 25mil/5yr offer... As funny at it may seem, many players are very insecure... To his own admittance Andrei Markov was very afraid that the contract wouldn't get done with Montreal... Reading through the last article I suspect Briere's loyalties are probably where most players' loyalties are nowadays; to the highest bidder. I'm getting the feeling that it doesn't look good for the Habs at this point. Someone will overpay him and he'll bolt. Just a feeling. Hope I'm wrong. Cheers. Actually Dis, I think the opposite is true. I think Briere's agent is kind insulted that Buffalo's first offer is the same offer as last year, and basically represents a 0% raise for Briere, so no extra money for the agent either. I think Briere spells out quite well in the article what his intentions are ...... but the point of going through this is you want to feel wanted, and you wonder how they’re going to show it.”
I think the first team that "shows" Briere they want him will have his name on the dotted line. Everyone expects Briere to sign for between 6.0 and 6.5 million. I think if Bob offers him anywhere between 5.5 and 6.0 and he speaks to Briere at 12:00:01 EST ... he'll get him. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 29, 2007 17:35:33 GMT -5
I think Briere would prefer to stay in Buffalo but he must be wondering what the heck is going on. The Sabres had 6 weeks to talk & don't tender an offer until June 27? I'd be a little ticked too. That's my feeling as well. Briere doesn't come off as a money hungry player to me but Buffalo seems to make it quite tough on him. C'mon Doc, the guy is a total problem in contract negotiations, it can't be all Buffalo's fault not coming to the table can it?  ;D Just a little friendly ribbing..... after all those Ryder contract disputes we had. |
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Post by habmeister on Jun 29, 2007 19:25:14 GMT -5
he hasn't proven enough to me. btw, playoff stats daniel briere last season 3 goals in 16 games. career 13 goals in 40 games, alexei kovalev career 37 goals in 100 games. chris drury last season 8 goals in 16 games. career 43 goals in 114 games give me drury anyday, and i'd pay more for him too. but we all know why everyone is targeting briere dont' we? I should've clarified my earlier post in comparing Drury and Briere... I know that I said that I would rather have Drury in the playoffs, but I meant to compliment Drury's grit. At the same time I didn't want to downplay Briere's career playoff performance in the process. H & C, you're only looking at goals in the playoffs. If you compare playoff PPG, then Briere blows Drury out of the water. Briere: 40 GP, 37 pts; PPG 0.92 Drury: 114 GP, 81 pts; PPG 0.71 Let's not skew the stats and make Briere look like a slouch in the postseason. He's more than capable of contributing big numbers. He's a proven playoff performer IMO. Drury has more grit and he'll do more of the little things for your team (like blocking shots, etc.) but Briere's an NHL star and he deserves to be respected as such. i don't think we'll argue that assists are as important as goals, with video replay 2 are given out as much as possible. with comparing the stats the 114 GP is very important as drury has been through a lot of long runs with the avs, something not too many on our roster can relay to the young players on the team. our team needs guys that put the puck in the back of the net more than anything. i like briere, but i like what drury brings to the table more. the only plus with briere is he's from quebec, but its been eons since a quebec player has starred and handled the pressure well in montreal. until of course he exploded and demanded he be dealt. |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jun 29, 2007 20:38:50 GMT -5
I think the first team that "shows" Briere they want him will have his name on the dotted line. Everyone expects Briere to sign for between 6.0 and 6.5 million. I think if Bob offers him anywhere between 5.5 and 6.0 and he speaks to Briere at 12:00:01 EST ... he'll get him. Let's hope so. That would be a great price for the Habs to get him at. *fingers crossed* |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jun 29, 2007 21:30:14 GMT -5
i don't think we'll argue that assists are as important as goals, with video replay 2 are given out as much as possible. I like to think that a point is a point. Assists are just as important as goals IMO. After all, it's an assist that leads to a goal, so why should it be given less credit? That's true, but you can't penalize Briere because he wasn't on powerhouse teams like Drury was on with the Avs. But I agree with your point. 114 GP in the playoffs is nothing to sneeze at. True, that our team needs goals, but they need offence, period. Whether that comes in the form of goals or assists doesn't really matter to me. Like I said, assists turn into goals, so why go to the trouble of differentiating? I like what Drury brings to the table too, but keep in mind that his career year was this past season and he only had 69 points. And his career playoff PPG of 0.71, pro-rated over an 82 game season, would equal 58 pts. Mediocre numbers if you ask me. Yes, he brings the other intangibles like leadership and shot blocking, but that alone isn't enough to spend $6M+ on. But that's just me. Heck, Koivu's career year was 75 points and he has a better playoff PPG than Drury. Not to mention that he also brings the leadership intangible to the table. How many of us would give Koivu $6M a season? And yes, it has been eons since an offensive Quebec-born player has starred and handled the pressure well in Montreal, but Briere is more than capable of doing that, IMO, because he's already a star. He's not some young kid with "potential". He's not some 21 year-old kid who's being asked to carry the franchise on his back. He's an established NHL player who has outstanding playoff numbers and is coming off of a 95 point season. In all the Esposito threads I've been clear that I don't want the Habs to just get a French-Canadian player for the sake of it, but to rather get the right type of French-Canadian player. IMO, Briere is that player. |
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Post by habmeister on Jun 29, 2007 22:00:34 GMT -5
i hope you're right, but the only thing i'll disagree with is that goals are more important, you never hear a team or fans saying "man we're going to have to find a way to replace those assists" we're lacking in goal scoring, you could put gretzky with begin and he would get 30 goals, but briere is no gretzky. i have a feeling there is going to be some misery on sunday. |
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Post by jimmyjazz on Jun 30, 2007 0:01:20 GMT -5
i have to continue to believe that more players than dandy are willing to come home to play for the once glorious canadiens before their career is done. i can't believe that a kid like pk subban is more excited to wear the bleu blanc et rouge than briere. BUT, bob has trouble signing ryder, higgins and komi to more than 2 year deals, why would he offer briere such a long term deal at that high of a price? i don't buy it. He was in the running until the last minute last year with Elias, he was willing to offer him a pretty lenght contract and a big one, but the devils added one more year and he lost him. Because we end up signing him or because he goes to Philly? eheh |
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