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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 6:54:06 GMT -5
And now for a recap, because I would really like for Skilly to be able to answer the question, seeing as how much time he's put into it so far... ~We are looking for 2 former Habs players. ~They are both retired and neither one was a Hab at the time of their retirement. ~They both accomplished almost exactly the same thing exactly 10 years apart. This would an NHL record (or team record, if you will). Hint: for the younger guy, add 1. ~The other accomplishment I was looking for was pre-NHL, as in minor league record. This is where my horrible math skillz failed me: that record is not exactly 10 years apart... more on that in a second. Hint:The season to start off with is 1979-80. That's for the older guy and that's the NHL record (or, if you will, the team record) that I'm looking for. Add 10 years and you will find someone who did almost exactly the same thing. Then for the older guy, subtract 7 years, for the younger guy, subtract 6 years, and find something else they both accomplished, pre-NHL (in the minors). *** If you're still stuck by the time I get back from noon-time skate, I'll post the name of the trophy they both won, and if you're better at math than I am, it should be obvious who I'm looking for. And then you'll only need to tell me what the NHL accomplishment was, because I'll have given you the minor league accomplishment.
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 8:58:08 GMT -5
And now for a recap, because I would really like for Skilly to be able to answer the question, seeing as how much time he's put into it so far... ~We are looking for 2 former Habs players. ~They are both retired and neither one was a Hab at the time of their retirement. ~They both accomplished almost exactly the same thing exactly 10 years apart. This would an NHL record (or team record, if you will). Hint: for the younger guy, add 1. ~The other accomplishment I was looking for was pre-NHL, as in minor league record. This is where my horrible math skillz failed me: that record is not exactly 10 years apart... more on that in a second. Hint:The season to start off with is 1979-80. That's for the older guy and that's the NHL record (or, if you will, the team record) that I'm looking for. Add 10 years and you will find someone who did almost exactly the same thing. Then for the older guy, subtract 7 years, for the younger guy, subtract 6 years, and find something else they both accomplished, pre-NHL (in the minors). *** If you're still stuck by the time I get back from noon-time skate, I'll post the name of the trophy they both won, and if you're better at math than I am, it should be obvious who I'm looking for. And then you'll only need to tell me what the NHL accomplishment was, because I'll have given you the minor league accomplishment. Val, I have dissected this apart and I guess there is something I am missing. The only "record" (and it is not an NHL record, but a team record) I can find from the 1979-80 season is goals by a center (50) by Pierre Larouche. Skip forward to 1989-90 and Stephane Richer scored 51 (you said something about adding one, but this isn't almost the same since Richer was a winger) Now Larouche won the Beliveau Trophy in 1973-74 (thats 6 years, and you said 7). And in 1983-84 (6 years before 89-90) it was won by Mario Lemieux so that ruins that anyway. The only guy on that 1979 team that I can find that won a minor league trophy in 1972 (7 years previous) was Yvon Lambert. He won the J.B. Sollenberger Trophy (AHL leading scorer). But in 83-84 that went to Cluade Larose. Now of note, there was a "former Hab" that won a trophy in 1972, but he wasn't on the 1979-80 team. Andre Savard won the Briere trophy (now the LaFleur trophy) and the Beliveau Trophy, and coincidentally enough in 84-85 the Lafleur trophy was won by someone on the 89-90 team, Claude Lemieux. I think I am going to have to give up on this one.... I will admit though I haven't dug very deep into the OHL or WHL, mainly cause I assumed the "minor" trophy won would be a Q trophy or AHL trophy from the early 70's. ...
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 9:28:22 GMT -5
Val, I have dissected this apart and I guess there is something I am missing. The only "record" (and it is not an NHL record, but a team record) I can find from the 1979-80 season is goals by a center (50) by Pierre Larouche. Skip forward to 1989-90 and Stephane Richer scored 51 (you said something about adding one, but this isn't almost the same since Richer was a winger) Mon ami, you have it right there! I was looking for number of goals almost exactly the same (50 for Pierre Larouche, 51 for Stéphane Richer), ten years apart. Never mind what position they were playing, that's not the important part [And I did put "team record" in brackets to clarify, and you did figure it out, so you get extra points for that ] As for the minor league accomplishment: ~Larouche won the Michel Bergeron Trophy for QMJHL Rookie of the Year in 1972-73 (seven years before the Habs team record) ~Richer won it in 1983-84 (six years before the Habs team record) I'll try and find something a little less convoluted for my next question...
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 9:43:36 GMT -5
Trivia question: What is significant about Oct. 19, 1957?
(as relates to the Habs)
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 9:45:22 GMT -5
Val, I have dissected this apart and I guess there is something I am missing. The only "record" (and it is not an NHL record, but a team record) I can find from the 1979-80 season is goals by a center (50) by Pierre Larouche. Skip forward to 1989-90 and Stephane Richer scored 51 (you said something about adding one, but this isn't almost the same since Richer was a winger) Mon ami, you have it right there! I was looking for number of goals almost exactly the same (50 for Pierre Larouche, 51 for Stéphane Richer), ten years apart. Never mind what position they were playing, that's not the important part [And I did put "team record" in brackets to clarify, and you did figure it out, so you get extra points for that ] As for the minor league accomplishment: ~Larouche won the Michel Bergeron Trophy for QMJHL Rookie of the Year in 1972-73 (seven years before the Habs team record) ~Richer won it in 1983-84 (six years before the Habs team record) I'll try and find something a little less convoluted for my next question... Ahhhhh I knew there was something I was missing .... The first part was "almost exactly" ... I thought the second player "almost" got the same record. Which is why I could'nt understand the "add one" ... cause that would mean the younger guy broke the record. Unless you were referring to records at the time they were achieved. But Larouche's hasn't been broken since, so it threw me .... The second is the trophy. It is a little technicality I guess ... but The Michel Bergeron Trophy is awarded annually to the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League's "Offensive Rookie of the Year." From 1969 to 1980, the trophy was awarded to the QMHL's "Overall Rookie of the Year." The Bergeron trophy's counterpart since 1980, is the Raymond Lagacé Trophy, awarded to the "Defensive Rookie of the Year." The QMHL created the RDS Cup in 1991, as a reunified Rookie of the Year award.
I guess I shouldn't have been searching based on trophy name ... lol... the rookie of the year was renamed the Bergeron Trophy in 1980 ...
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Post by The New Guy on Dec 14, 2009 9:56:32 GMT -5
Trivia question:What is significant about Oct. 19, 1957? (as relates to the Habs) #500 for #9, the first player to do so.
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 12:18:19 GMT -5
Trivia question:What is significant about Oct. 19, 1957? (as relates to the Habs) #500 for #9, the first player to do so. Maurice RichardForty other players have joined the 500-goal club since he founded it, but only seven have earned their admission in fewer games. Girl note: Maurice was played by Roy Dupuis in the "Maurice Richard"/"The Rocket" movie... yummy! ;D
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 12:20:10 GMT -5
Trivia question: Name the players who made up the following lines:
~The S Line ~The Punch Line ~The 3M Line
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 14, 2009 13:11:39 GMT -5
Trivia question:Name the players who made up the following lines: ~The S Line ~The Punch Line ~The 3M Line The S Line: Savage, Saku, The Punch Line: M Richard, Blake and Lach The 3M Line: Moen, Metropolit and Max Pacioretty. That "S Line" is stumping me. Cheers.
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 13:47:55 GMT -5
Trivia question:Name the players who made up the following lines: ~The S Line ~The Punch Line ~The 3M Line S line = Nels Stewart, Babe Siebert, Hooley Smith The others Dis has named I love naming lines ... my favourite one though is the "Mattress Line"
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 14:02:26 GMT -5
The Punch Line: M Richard, Blake and Lach The 3M Line: Moen, Metropolit and Max Pacioretty. Yes. The 3M is from TSN, I call them the M&M&M line S line = Nels Stewart, Babe Siebert, Hooley Smith And yes. I love naming lines ... my favourite one though is the "Mattress Line" Dare I ask? Do tell... while I think up another question ;D
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 14:05:25 GMT -5
Dare I ask? Do tell... while I think up another question ;D Sure you can ask .... Henrik Sedin-Daniel Sedin-Jason King Two twins and a king ... (Mattress Line) Jason King is a good ol Newfoundlander. With his size and hands and being on a line with the "bobsies" he should have done better than he did ....
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 14:42:12 GMT -5
Maurice Richard holds the team record (and NHL record, actually) for most playoff OT goals with 6 .... what player(s) is second on the Habs in OT playoff goals. And how many OT goals does he have?
Hint: Three players are tied with the second most OT playoff goals.
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Post by CrocRob on Dec 14, 2009 15:24:56 GMT -5
I didn't know there were three, but I know Kirk Muller is one of them, and he has 3. If I were going to guess the other two guys, they'd be Stephane Richer and Guy Carbonneau. But that's only because I recall each of them have at least 2. Come to think of it, I think Russ Courtnall had 2+ as well.
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Post by CrocRob on Dec 14, 2009 15:26:58 GMT -5
Did you know beforehand or did you go and watch the clip? I actually knew for some reason. Well I actually had it narrowed down to two guys, but then... And am I the only one who noticed that Travis took a stick to the face last night? Delivered by Spacek, no less... No, I noticed that, too. It was put me on Moen for my locked-in final answer.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 14, 2009 17:08:38 GMT -5
Maurice Richard holds the team record (and NHL record, actually) for most playoff OT goals with 6 .... what player(s) is second on the Habs in OT playoff goals. And how many OT goals does he have? Hint: Three players are tied with the second most OT playoff goals. Kirk Muller, Russ Courtnall and Jacques Lemaire - 3
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Post by habernac on Dec 14, 2009 17:49:07 GMT -5
Skilly, didn't Sakic break that record recently? (my quick Wiki search tells me he has 8)
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 18:06:28 GMT -5
Maurice Richard holds the team record (and NHL record, actually) for most playoff OT goals with 6 .... what player(s) is second on the Habs in OT playoff goals. And how many OT goals does he have? Hint: Three players are tied with the second most OT playoff goals. Without looking anything up, I was going to say Stéphane Richer with 4. Turns out two of those were not with the Habs, so he's only got 2... I didn't know there were three, but I know Kirk Muller is one of them, and he has 3. If I were going to guess the other two guys, they'd be Stephane Richer and Guy Carbonneau. But that's only because I recall each of them have at least 2. Come to think of it, I think Russ Courtnall had 2+ as well. I was able to find Kirk Muller and Russ Courtnall with 3 each. Stéphane, Guy and John Leclair with 2 each. Kirk Muller, Russ Courtnall and Jacques Lemaire - 3 The site I checked had Lemaire at 0 *** So Skilly, who's right? I suspect it's not me
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 18:08:06 GMT -5
Did you know beforehand or did you go and watch the clip? I actually knew for some reason. Well I actually had it narrowed down to two guys, but then... And am I the only one who noticed that Travis took a stick to the face last night? Delivered by Spacek, no less... No, I noticed that, too. It was put me on Moen for my locked-in final answer. So, out of curiosity, who was your other pick?
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 14, 2009 18:13:19 GMT -5
Dare I ask? Do tell... while I think up another question ;D Sure you can ask .... Henrik Sedin-Daniel Sedin-Jason King Two twins and a king ... (Mattress Line) The Sedins... reminds me of:
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Post by CrocRob on Dec 14, 2009 18:19:44 GMT -5
I actually knew for some reason. Well I actually had it narrowed down to two guys, but then... No, I noticed that, too. It was put me on Moen for my locked-in final answer. So, out of curiosity, who was your other pick? I thought I had recalled Gill saying something like that in regard to a comment about him stepping on some of his teammates during the preseason.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 14, 2009 19:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 21:23:15 GMT -5
Habs playoff OT facts
Most OT goals
1) Maurice Richard (6) 2) Jacques Lemaire (3) 2) Russ Courtnall (3) 2) Kirk Muller (3) 5) 13 players tied with 2
Montreal hold record for most OT wins in a season (10)
Last Hab to score an OT playoff goal - Tom Kostopolous
No current Hab has an OT playoff goal for the Habs
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 21:24:23 GMT -5
Skilly, didn't Sakic break that record recently? (my quick Wiki search tells me he has 8) It's possible ... the Montreal Canadiens official site only has their record book updated to 2006-07
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 21:45:56 GMT -5
Name the two players that share the record for most points in a single period?
HINT: The feat occured 60 seasons apart (exactly 60 years and 2 months actually).
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Dec 14, 2009 22:35:09 GMT -5
Name the two players that share the record for most points in a single period? HINT: The feat occured 60 seasons apart (exactly 60 years and 2 months actually). Alfred Lepine and Stephane Richer. 5 points. 1929 and 1990.
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Post by Skilly on Dec 14, 2009 22:53:34 GMT -5
Name the two players that share the record for most points in a single period? HINT: The feat occured 60 seasons apart (exactly 60 years and 2 months actually). Alfred Lepine and Stephane Richer. 5 points. 1929 and 1990. Correct Lepine scored 4 goals and 1 assist in the second period when Montreal beat Ottawa 6-4 on Dec 14, 1929. Happy Anniversary! Stephane Richer had 3 goals and 2 assists in the first period of a 10-1 drubbing of Vancouver on Feb. 14, 1990.
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 15, 2009 6:26:21 GMT -5
This question is brought to us by RedScull, and the answers he gave me were actually wrong... I, with my poor math skillz, ended up being right, ha! Trivia question:a) Which original 6 team have the Habs played the fewest playoff games against? b) Which original 6 team have the Habs won the fewest playoff games against? *** I have a boatload of work to do today, so I'll be checking in at 10 am, 12 noon and 3 pm if hints are required. And I have two other questions lined up in case you guys get this one quickly.
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Post by Skilly on Dec 15, 2009 7:22:27 GMT -5
This question is brought to us by RedScull, and the answers he gave me were actually wrong... I, with my poor math skillz, ended up being right, ha! Trivia question:a) Which original 6 team have the Habs played the fewest playoff games against? b) Which original 6 team have the Habs won the fewest playoff games against? *** I have a boatload of work to do today, so I'll be checking in at 10 am, 12 noon and 3 pm if hints are required. And I have two other questions lined up in case you guys get this one quickly. Fewest games ... New York Rangers (61 GP) Fewest Wins ..... Detroit Red Wings (62GP ... but only 33 wins) Fewest Series .... Detroit (and we have a 5W 7L record)
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Dec 15, 2009 9:06:24 GMT -5
Fewest games ... New York Rangers (61 GP) edit to add: 34 winsFewest Wins ..... Detroit Red Wings (62GP ... but only 33 wins) Fewest Series .... Detroit (and we have a 5W 7L record) I'll have to take your word on that last one, Skilly Our playoff records against the other original 6 teams: Boston - 99W 163GP Chicago - 50W 81GP Toronto - 42W 71GP
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