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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 19:14:00 GMT -5
I don't see why we can't do both. Crisp is years away from the NHL. Bordeleau got resigned for 3 years. That's how much the Avs value a tough guy. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2013 19:15:39 GMT -5
So far, I'm not really that impressed with our 2013 draft. The McCarron pick annoys me in that we picked him where we did, I guess. We could have taken any of the guys just drafted after McCarron and probably still had him at DLR's pick. It's weird when my favourite pick is turning out to be the goalie. Ouch.
Vancouver aced this draft given what they were possibly looking at when it started. They got both Horvat and Shinkaruk without weakening themselves at all.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:16:25 GMT -5
IMO, the best player in the Q playoffs after MacKinnon and Drouin was Andrighetto. This kid is a special talent, and he plays with a chip on his shoulder. He had 30 points in 14 playoff games. He was the biggest reason they went as far as they did.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:17:15 GMT -5
I don't see why we can't do both. Crisp is years away from the NHL. Bordeleau got resigned for 3 years. That's how much the Avs value a tough guy. Yes. I was speaking in general. Drafting a an overager who can fight doesn't impact a decision to sign an uber goon if one is on your list. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 30, 2013 19:18:37 GMT -5
IMO, the best player in the Q playoffs after MacKinnon and Drouin was Andrighetto. This kid is a special talent, and he plays with a chip on his shoulder. He had 30 points in 14 playoff games. He was the biggest reason they went as far as they did. Red Line Reports opinion: |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 19:18:58 GMT -5
Did you really buy the "we are building the future from the draft" when picking 25th? REALLY? Did you miss my "I don't compliment shoe tying managers?"
It's a good thread to put on your rose coloured glasses....and not much more. Exactly....at those drafting positions, it's all "wait and see". Future size and goaltending was addressed....no game-breakers...but the depth a playoff team needs. Unfortunately, it's not for the next several years. If Bergevin doesn't make a bit of splash via Free Agency/trades....we're not looking a long playoff run next season, either. We're just not deep enough. IMO. But...but...we are going to build a contender through the draft! We don't need no damn expensive FA's and trades! Said Houle 2.
How is it looking so far? Wait until NEXT year...... |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:19:17 GMT -5
So far, I'm not really that impressed with our 2013 draft. The McCarron pick annoys me in that we picked him where we did, I guess. We could have taken any of the guys just drafted after McCarron and probably still had him at DLR's pick. It's weird when my favourite pick is turning out to be the goalie. Ouch. Vancouver aced this draft given what they were possibly looking at when it started. They got both Horvat and Shinkaruk without weakening themselves at all. You can't say he'd have been available when we picked DLR. We have no idea who else had them on their list. |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:20:06 GMT -5
Fucale speaking with Duthie. Incredibly humble and well spoken.
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Post by Douper on Jun 30, 2013 19:21:40 GMT -5
Fucale is a great interview
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:29:17 GMT -5
Jordan Subban picked by Canucks one pick before us.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:31:51 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 30, 2013 19:34:49 GMT -5
Did we get Brian Bickell or Turner Stevenson? Cheers. The story is that he likes to hit and tough to play against. Which means somethign adn nothing. He was a monster amongst boys, but his size differential will not mean as much as there are a 150 players in his weight range in the NHL. So now the question will be, is he mean enough and tough enough to get stronger and meaner in the NHL level? Don't get me wrong, I love big players who skate and play a mean game, but like we saw in Komi-traior, it doesn't mean they will be willing to do so day in and day out, or at all. It takes a certain internal disposition (crazy!) to raise toughness to the next level. We'll see....... You decribed Komisarek's scenario perfectly. I'm not convinced on McCarron, though I know little about him. I don't know if he'll make the team this year and I don't like that. I like what I read about du la Rosa. I'd like to have another similar player but then Timins drafts two Atom Ants. Fucale means we're possibly prepping for the post-Price era. Like that pick. Cheers |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 30, 2013 19:39:39 GMT -5
Fucale is a great interview I thought the same. Very well-spoken and grateful. Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:43:10 GMT -5
Lehkonen is going to have to bulk up. No doubt. Saku was slight when he was drafted.
Sven is 5'9, but he's built like Gallagher. He's got that compete level too. Is there room for both? Hard to say. He's worked very hard to prove the world wrong. I think he continues with that me against the world attitude.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:57:34 GMT -5
Button's grade of the Canadian teams at the draft today:
Calgary - A
Montreal - A - McCarron a project. DLR at worst a 3rd liner. Fucale elite. Lehkonen and Andrighetto fantastic skill.
Stopped there for commercials.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:58:30 GMT -5
Here's McCarron's interview with the Montreal media. video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=66&id=261635&lang=enI think he's got some wits about him. Perhaps not as well spoken as Fucale, but he's focused and already working on weaknesses. He's aware of the pros and cons of both scenarios for next year and is prepared to work with the team to chart out a plan. His grandmother is french canadian. So, there's ties to the area. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 20:00:56 GMT -5
We're back to smurfs!
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 20:06:59 GMT -5
Pat Kane is listed at 5'11 181lbs. He competes, and that's really what it's about for smaller players. I'm not saying Lehkonen or Andrighetto will play at that level. I'm saying there's room for smaller players if they compete hard. The Finn has played against men, I'd like to see him come over and get acquainted with the smaller ice. Sven has the 'it' factor. You notice him right away out there. I think he's going to show people they were wrong to ignore him as long as they did. It's about balance. There was balance in the selections made today. Those selections will take time to develop. It's up to the pro scouts and Berg to do the job to address issues of balance within the current roster. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 30, 2013 20:08:48 GMT -5
Exactly....at those drafting positions, it's all "wait and see". Future size and goaltending was addressed....no game-breakers...but the depth a playoff team needs. Unfortunately, it's not for the next several years. If Bergevin doesn't make a bit of splash via Free Agency/trades....we're not looking a long playoff run next season, either. We're just not deep enough. IMO. Really don't see us as a playoff team anyway. Detroit is in our division now. All depends upon Price. If he can hold it all together over an 82-game schedule, we'll make the show. Interesting to see what Bergevin does during the rest of the summer. |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 20:30:47 GMT -5
Habs select Jeremy Gregoire in the 6th.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 21:04:34 GMT -5
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Post by Anardil1 on Jun 30, 2013 21:09:18 GMT -5
Habs traded 7th rounder to Florida for 7th rounder in 2014.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 30, 2013 21:10:13 GMT -5
Nice touch by the Devils selecting Brodeurs son and having Martin doing the anouncement.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 21:38:35 GMT -5
Very classy. He's playing for Shattuck. Likely never go beyond a college player.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 22:23:45 GMT -5
Here's Fucale's dad's reaction to the selection lol   |
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Post by HFTO on Jun 30, 2013 22:30:04 GMT -5
Smurfs of course they got back to drafting smurfs Habs only have a limited amount of large sweaters....if MB is quiet in FA don't expect the playoffs.
HFTO
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Post by PTH on Jun 30, 2013 22:36:36 GMT -5
Habs traded 7th rounder to Florida for 7th rounder in 2014. That usually means our entire list of worthwhile picks had been exhausted... |
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Post by PTH on Jun 30, 2013 23:20:22 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jul 1, 2013 0:38:12 GMT -5
Habs traded 7th rounder to Florida for 7th rounder in 2014. That usually means our entire list of worthwhile picks had been exhausted... Yeah and I can't help thinking everytime it was our turn, the guy we really wanted had just been picked by someone else. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 1, 2013 9:46:21 GMT -5
So far, I'm not really that impressed with our 2013 draft. The McCarron pick annoys me in that we picked him where we did, I guess. We could have taken any of the guys just drafted after McCarron and probably still had him at DLR's pick. That is where the second guessing will come from, I suppose. It appears that McCarron was projected as a 2nd round pick by several of the mock drafts. If the Habs really liked him that much, it's possible they could have picked him up later or even traded down. But there is always worry that another team likes him as well, and some guys see their stock rise on draft day. Or fall. It's clear that the Habs and several other teams did not like Valentin Zykov, who was projected as a 1st round pick on some mocks. We had two chances to get him in the 2nd round and we avoided him both times. I hope they're right. If he ends up being a good scorer and de la Rose is just a standard 3rd line winger.... that will bum me out. I don't mind the Fucale pick. It's clear we need to cover our bases after the year Price had. I just hope McCarron doesn't end up to be this year's Hugh Jessiman. I get nervous about drafting projects in the 1st round. I like to see a better track record of production, but if the Habs didn't see better value at #25 and believe McCarron has the best upside then you just have to trust them. |
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