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Post by Cranky on Feb 26, 2014 17:14:22 GMT -5
Why would we look at Hemsky? He's a FA at the end of the season and we're certainly not contenders.
Any and all trades should be for high potential yearlings or high picks. Has'beans need not apply.
EDIT: I see where it's about trading one of our worthless ones for one of theirs and let him walk at the end of the year. OK, I buy that. BUT....and there is always a butt involved......why not try to get a prospect or a pick?
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Post by seventeen on Feb 26, 2014 18:15:39 GMT -5
According to McKenzie, looks like the Canucks may be shopping Kesler and Edler. The latter has a NTC, but for the right price I think he's the right swap for Markov. Beaulieu, a forward prospect, and a high pick. Two years ago and even last year I would have jumped at that. Not so sure now. Edler has been making a lot of mistakes. If he can revert to the 2011-12 Edler, he'd be a good pick- up. |
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Post by HFTO on Feb 26, 2014 19:31:22 GMT -5
Aside from dumping our UFA's of which the return will less than spectacular unless MB can create a bidding war for Markov the Habs have few assets that they can afford to deal.
So without involving picks I suspect it will be another less than banner day for Hab fans which is okay by me.
They need to be sellers and have the young core take the reins going into next year.
Even if they are sellers I wouldn't necessarily rule out still stealing a spot.
HFTO
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Post by seventeen on Feb 26, 2014 19:39:42 GMT -5
That's what I think too, HFTO. Even if we are sellers, the young guys can easily surprise because there's no pressure and actually do as well as if we'd kept everyone. I still very much regret Gainey not trading Souray. That one was so obvious.
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2014 19:56:30 GMT -5
According to McKenzie, looks like the Canucks may be shopping Kesler and Edler. The latter has a NTC, but for the right price I think he's the right swap for Markov. Beaulieu, a forward prospect, and a high pick. Two years ago and even last year I would have jumped at that. Not so sure now. Edler has been making a lot of mistakes. If he can revert to the 2011-12 Edler, he'd be a good pick- up. He's had some struggles. Still, he's only 27. New scenery might do him good. There's more than one Canuck who's had some struggles the last couple of years. |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 26, 2014 22:06:31 GMT -5
Louis Jean said today Kesler has asked for a trade.
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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 26, 2014 22:18:01 GMT -5
I'd do a Pleks for Kessler trade.
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2014 23:49:33 GMT -5
Kesler's agent denying request, fwiw.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 27, 2014 1:19:58 GMT -5
Two years ago and even last year I would have jumped at that. Not so sure now. Edler has been making a lot of mistakes. If he can revert to the 2011-12 Edler, he'd be a good pick- up. He's had some struggles. Still, he's only 27. New scenery might do him good. There's more than one Canuck who's had some struggles the last couple of years. He played reasonably well today against St. Louis, in a 1-0 Canucks win. |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 27, 2014 8:21:57 GMT -5
I'd do a Pleks for Kessler trade. Jean did say its likely get done at draft, Kesler has injured hand right now |
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2014 0:40:47 GMT -5
Sabres making Tyler Myers available. www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444838Man. I know he's withered a bit but he's playing on a putrid team. He's on a pretty good contract too. Signed for 5 more years with a cap hit of $5.5 million, the Sabres front loaded his deal - paying him $12 million in the first year of it. Actual salary drops to $3 million by the last year. He's a right shooting defender. Imagine a Myers-Tinordi pairing (though Tinordi might need to be a piece going the other way). |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 28, 2014 4:25:09 GMT -5
Sabres making Tyler Myers available. www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444838Man. I know he's withered a bit but he's playing on a putrid team. He's on a pretty good contract too. Signed for 5 more years with a cap hit of $5.5 million, the Sabres front loaded his deal - paying him $12 million in the first year of it. Actual salary drops to $3 million by the last year. He's a right shooting defender. Imagine a Myers-Tinordi pairing (though Tinordi might need to be a piece going the other way). Like to build a good defense in front of Price. But I imagine the costs will be steep. Does allows us to move Markov and stay competitive this year though. |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 28, 2014 8:19:26 GMT -5
I wonder what the cost for Myers would be? I would have to think it's astronomical, given that he seems to be exactly the type of player that a team like the Sabres should be acquiring.
Sharks and Montreal have apparently had scouts at each other's games this week, according to a tweet from Arpon Basu. Coincidentally enough - or not - Raffi Torres returned to the Sharks lineup last night, his first game of the season after suffering a knee injury in the preseason. Two goals. Weren't we linked to him at one point? I can't see the need (or the desire) for him though, unless somebody like Moen was going back the other way. And even then...
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2014 11:49:47 GMT -5
Price for Myers would likely be 3 pieces. Similar to Edler.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2014 12:27:55 GMT -5
Myers still has the 'potential star' tag on him, but his game has gone backwards. Get therrien working on him, though and we'll soon have an ECHL star on our hands.
I think Myers would benefit by leaving Buffalo. I wouldn't give up Tinordi though. I have very high hopes for Jared. I see him as another Langway player, a potential star shut down defender who can give you 20-30 points a year as well. We already gave up McDonagh, lets not repeat the error.
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2014 12:35:29 GMT -5
Myers still has the 'potential star' tag on him, but his game has gone backwards. Get therrien working on him, though and we'll soon have an ECHL star on our hands. I think Myers would benefit by leaving Buffalo. I wouldn't give up Tinordi though. I have very high hopes for Jared. I see him as another Langway player, a potential star shut down defender who can give you 20-30 points a year as well. We already gave up McDonagh, lets not repeat the error. I wouldn't want to give him up either. Sabres are likely to select Ekblad this year, and have Zadorov as well. Some have suggested that the Sabres need sub 25 year old scoring forwards. |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 28, 2014 12:52:04 GMT -5
Eller and our first rounder I would offer
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2014 13:03:49 GMT -5
Eller and our first rounder I would offer I believe there was an offer on hf, as part of discussion about value, that had Eller, Collberg, and a high pick going the other way. |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 28, 2014 13:45:06 GMT -5
Eller and our first rounder I would offer I believe there was an offer on hf, as part of discussion about value, that had Eller, Collberg, and a high pick going the other way. I would do that trade. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2014 14:53:31 GMT -5
I read this part of your post and said WHAT!  |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 28, 2014 14:55:30 GMT -5
I read this part of your post and said WHAT! So did I!!  |
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2014 14:55:54 GMT -5
I read this part of your post and said WHAT! as in "The price" lol |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 28, 2014 15:11:16 GMT -5
I love Tyler Myers and would package Tinordi for him in a heartbeat. He's everything we hope Tinordi will become and a FAR better puck carrier, IMO.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2014 15:12:17 GMT -5
Eller and our first rounder I would offer Didn't someone say the Sabres needed scoring forwards  . |
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2014 15:16:14 GMT -5
Eller and our first rounder I would offer Didn't someone say the Sabres needed scoring forwards . Let him play center, and watch his offensive touch return. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2014 15:19:17 GMT -5
I love Tyler Myers and would package Tinordi for him in a heartbeat. He's everything we hope Tinordi will become and a FAR better puck carrier, IMO. I really like Myers too, but I have this dream of Myers and Tinordi as a pairing. Myers was part of that awesome 2008 defenseman draft, with just Doughty, Bogosian and Pietrangelo picked ahead of him as defensemen. He is a good one and probably just going through a stage (like PK). Sabres could use a steady Eddie (like Gorges), a potential checking centre who can score (Eller), a scoring winger (Collberg), maybe even a goalie to replace Miller (Fucale). I wouldn't give up all those guys, but three of them, yes. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2014 15:19:47 GMT -5
Didn't someone say the Sabres needed scoring forwards . Let him play center, and watch his offensive touch return. Eller can become a 60 point man with the right handling. |
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Post by habsburgher on Feb 28, 2014 16:04:14 GMT -5
I'd do a Pleks for Kessler trade. I heard Kessler wants to go to a team in the US and in the Eastern Conference. With that said I still would not trade Pleks for him he has had too many injuries. The hot rumor is Kessler to Pittsburgh for Sutter Despres and another piece. |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 28, 2014 16:12:45 GMT -5
For what it's worth Pierre McGuire said "not to count out Montreal" when it comes to Kesler.
I'd be careful on this one. Kesler *sounds* like the type of player we need but his numbers have been in a slow but steady decline. By points-per-game, over the last five years:
0.63
0.76 (in only 17 games)
0.64
0.89
0.91
Trend or...?
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2014 16:19:50 GMT -5
Kesler raises red flags for me too.
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