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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2014 14:49:14 GMT -5
For the record, Button's list is compiled not only from his own views but from dealings/discussions with other scouts. It's not just about where they think people will go, but an evaluation of drafting teams' stock and what their weaknesses are. I know Craig's been given a bad rap over the years, but I don't know how justified it is. He was the GM in Calgary from 2000-2003. He put together much of the roster that would get to the finals in 2004. He also had a significant role in the AHL championship in 2001. I think some guys just get painted with a brush, or have enough Saperlipopette that's thrown at them that sticks, and the establishment just writes them off. I think it could be fairly argued that there are far worse evaluators of talent out there, and that he certainly couldn't do a worse job than Snow in NYI. Mostly I criticize him because I don't agree with him  . |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 14:52:21 GMT -5
A few guys that "might" be available and on our radar screen at 26 tonight (according to me lol):
Ivan Barbashev, C, Moncton (QMJHL), 6'1" 190lbs - The "Russian factor" may see him slip, and he could very well be available at 26. Not your everyday Russian style guy as he plays a very North American game. Good speed, skill and hockey IQ and does not scare away from the physical play.
Jack Dougherty, RD, USNTDP (USHL), 6'1" 185lbs - This is a very weak draft for defenders, so they may have a premium and go higher than projected. Dougherty is a physical solid defender, although he could get a bit quicker and his offense is likely limited at the next level. A leader on the US team.
Adrian Kempe, C, Modo (SHL), 6'2", 190lbs - Kempe has performed reasonably well given his ice time in the mens league. He sounds a lot like this year's Jacob DLR to be honest. Big, fast, responsible, very coachable, but may have limited offensive upside. He is very strong on the puck and a powerful skater.
Travis Sanheim, LD, Calgary (WHL), 6'3", 190lbs - The big riser this draft, he is now seen as one of the best defenders in this draft due to his big rise. A solid all round defender.
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 14:54:07 GMT -5
For the record, Button's list is compiled not only from his own views but from dealings/discussions with other scouts. It's not just about where they think people will go, but an evaluation of drafting teams' stock and what their weaknesses are. I know Craig's been given a bad rap over the years, but I don't know how justified it is. He was the GM in Calgary from 2000-2003. He put together much of the roster that would get to the finals in 2004. He also had a significant role in the AHL championship in 2001. I think some guys just get painted with a brush, or have enough Saperlipopette that's thrown at them that sticks, and the establishment just writes them off. I think it could be fairly argued that there are far worse evaluators of talent out there, and that he certainly couldn't do a worse job than Snow in NYI. Mostly I criticize him because I don't agree with him . Muwahahaha. I don't agree with him always either. He's been a target of a lot of 'internet hate' over the years, and for a while I sort of accepted it as warranted. Dig a little deeper, and I think a lot of it is unwarranted. Why has he been a tv analyst for much of the last ten years? Maybe he likes it. Maybe he likes being able to spend more time with family than he would running a club. You NEVER hear about his name coming up in rumours about interviews etc (like Pierre McGuire). While Pierre may be chomping at the bit to get back on the 'inside', I get the feeling Button enjoys where he is and what he does. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 14:59:51 GMT -5
Some possible guys with our third round pick at 87th:
Connor Chatham, RW, Plymouth (OHL), 6'2" 225lbs - Good skater, decent puck skills, aggressive forechecker and physical.
Aaron Irving, RD, Edmonton (WHL), 6'1", 190lbs - A tough two way guy who is physical and also a contributor on the PP point.
Kaapo Kahkonen, G, Blues U20 (Finland), 6'2", 200lbs - Good size and mobility, and we need some more goalies in the pipeline. Was a bit inconsistent at the U18s so could slip and be available for us in the third.
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 15:05:03 GMT -5
A few guys that "might" be available and on our radar screen at 26 tonight (according to me lol): Ivan Barbashev, C, Moncton (QMJHL), 6'1" 190lbs - The "Russian factor" may see him slip, and he could very well be available at 26. Not your everyday Russian style guy as he plays a very North American game. Good speed, skill and hockey IQ and does not scare away from the physical play. Jack Dougherty, RD, USNTDP (USHL), 6'1" 185lbs - This is a very weak draft for defenders, so they may have a premium and go higher than projected. Dougherty is a physical solid defender, although he could get a bit quicker and his offense is likely limited at the next level. A leader on the US team. Adrian Kempe, C, Modo (SHL), 6'2", 190lbs - Kempe has performed reasonably well given his ice time in the mens league. He sounds a lot like this year's Jacob DLR to be honest. Big, fast, responsible, very coachable, but may have limited offensive upside. He is very strong on the puck and a powerful skater. Travis Sanheim, LD, Calgary (WHL), 6'3", 190lbs - The big riser this draft, he is now seen as one of the best defenders in this draft due to his big rise. A solid all round defender. Being in Halifax, I've only seen Barbashev. He's talented for sure. Button has Tampa picking Sanheim at 19. We'll see. He's got Kempe at 23, could slip. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 15:07:44 GMT -5
Fourth round pick, 117th:
Alexis Pepin, LW, Gatineau (QMJHL), 6'2", 230lbs - A big power forward with some offensive upside. Plays a very tough, physical game.
Oskar Lindblom, LW/RW, Brynas J20 (Sweden), 6'2", 190lbs - A north south power forward style player who plays a strong game. Good hockey IQ and solid defensively.
Christian Dvorak, LW, London (OHL), 6'0", 175 lbs - A fast, skilled offensive forward. Had an ACL injury so likely didn't get too much viewing.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 15:08:49 GMT -5
A few guys that "might" be available and on our radar screen at 26 tonight (according to me lol): Ivan Barbashev, C, Moncton (QMJHL), 6'1" 190lbs - The "Russian factor" may see him slip, and he could very well be available at 26. Not your everyday Russian style guy as he plays a very North American game. Good speed, skill and hockey IQ and does not scare away from the physical play. Jack Dougherty, RD, USNTDP (USHL), 6'1" 185lbs - This is a very weak draft for defenders, so they may have a premium and go higher than projected. Dougherty is a physical solid defender, although he could get a bit quicker and his offense is likely limited at the next level. A leader on the US team. Adrian Kempe, C, Modo (SHL), 6'2", 190lbs - Kempe has performed reasonably well given his ice time in the mens league. He sounds a lot like this year's Jacob DLR to be honest. Big, fast, responsible, very coachable, but may have limited offensive upside. He is very strong on the puck and a powerful skater. Travis Sanheim, LD, Calgary (WHL), 6'3", 190lbs - The big riser this draft, he is now seen as one of the best defenders in this draft due to his big rise. A solid all round defender. Being in Halifax, I've only seen Barbashev. He's talented for sure. Button has Tampa picking Sanheim at 19. We'll see. He's got Kempe at 23, could slip. As TT said in his interview, they are hoping for some "helps" where players slip. With such parity from 15-40 anything could happen by the time we pick methinks. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 15:12:53 GMT -5
Fifth round 125th (NYI):
Julio Billia, G, Chicoutimi (QMJHL), 5'11", 165lbs - A very aggressive and agile goaltender, from the Q, and we could use another goalie this draft.
Ryan Hitchcock, LW, USNTDP (USHL), 5'9", 175 - A perfect spot in which to pick an undersized, but fast and very skilled forward. We have done it before.
Stefan Leblanc, LD, Mississauga (OHL), 6'0", 180lbs - A puck moving defender with good upside. Why not?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 15:18:33 GMT -5
Fifth round 147th:
Jaedon Descheneau, RW, Kootenay (WHL), 5'9", 185lbs - a skilled undersized guy who is fast and always moving. Played on the Ice top line with some guy named Reinhart and also Tim Bozon at times before his illness.
Brandon Montour, RD, Waterloo (USHL), 6'0", 170lbs - He has passed through two drafts, but had a major breakout season this year. An offensive defender.
Daniel Walcott, LD, Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL), 5'11", 175lbs - An aggressive shut down defender with known leadership qualities.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 27, 2014 15:19:35 GMT -5
Top three in this draft are ahead of the rest, but wouldn't be in the top 6 last year. In addition we pick late at 26. If a player is big and fast and skilled he will be gone by 26. This is the year for a long term swing for the fences project and if he craps out, no big loss. Look to Europe for skating and potential.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 15:25:11 GMT -5
Sixth round 177th (this gets harder deeper into the draft!!):
Lucas Wallmark, RW/C, Lulea (SHL), 6'0", 175lbs - I had him on my list last year. Had a good WJC and is a very reliable two way centre. Plays in the mens league.
Christiano Digiacinto, LW, Windsor (OHL), 5'11", 185lbs - A good skater, who is competitive and has a mean streak. Plays hard in the dirty places.
Karson Kuhlman, RW, Dubuque (USHL), 5'10" 170lbs - a speedy talented two way winger with no quit in his game.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 15:29:46 GMT -5
Seventh round 207th (the last of my wild a$$ guesses!!):
Sebastian Moberg, LD, Blues U20 (Finland), 5'11", 165lbs - A strong skating, solid two way defender with good hockey sense. Heck, it is the 7th round!!
Anthony Angello, C, Omaha (USHL), 6'4", 195lbs - A solid two way shutdown centre with good hockey sense.
Ryan Mantha, D, Indiana (USHL), 6'5", 225lbs - A big, mobile defender who could be more physical for his huge size.
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Post by GNick99 on Jun 27, 2014 16:11:52 GMT -5
A few guys that "might" be available and on our radar screen at 26 tonight (according to me lol): Ivan Barbashev, C, Moncton (QMJHL), 6'1" 190lbs - The "Russian factor" may see him slip, and he could very well be available at 26. Not your everyday Russian style guy as he plays a very North American game. Good speed, skill and hockey IQ and does not scare away from the physical play. Jack Dougherty, RD, USNTDP (USHL), 6'1" 185lbs - This is a very weak draft for defenders, so they may have a premium and go higher than projected. Dougherty is a physical solid defender, although he could get a bit quicker and his offense is likely limited at the next level. A leader on the US team. Adrian Kempe, C, Modo (SHL), 6'2", 190lbs - Kempe has performed reasonably well given his ice time in the mens league. He sounds a lot like this year's Jacob DLR to be honest. Big, fast, responsible, very coachable, but may have limited offensive upside. He is very strong on the puck and a powerful skater. Travis Sanheim, LD, Calgary (WHL), 6'3", 190lbs - The big riser this draft, he is now seen as one of the best defenders in this draft due to his big rise. A solid all round defender. Yup, all good picks. Kempe is the weakness to me as no offense. Scherbak and Fabbri I have ahead of him. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 17:08:21 GMT -5
A few guys that "might" be available and on our radar screen at 26 tonight (according to me lol): Ivan Barbashev, C, Moncton (QMJHL), 6'1" 190lbs - The "Russian factor" may see him slip, and he could very well be available at 26. Not your everyday Russian style guy as he plays a very North American game. Good speed, skill and hockey IQ and does not scare away from the physical play. Jack Dougherty, RD, USNTDP (USHL), 6'1" 185lbs - This is a very weak draft for defenders, so they may have a premium and go higher than projected. Dougherty is a physical solid defender, although he could get a bit quicker and his offense is likely limited at the next level. A leader on the US team. Adrian Kempe, C, Modo (SHL), 6'2", 190lbs - Kempe has performed reasonably well given his ice time in the mens league. He sounds a lot like this year's Jacob DLR to be honest. Big, fast, responsible, very coachable, but may have limited offensive upside. He is very strong on the puck and a powerful skater. Travis Sanheim, LD, Calgary (WHL), 6'3", 190lbs - The big riser this draft, he is now seen as one of the best defenders in this draft due to his big rise. A solid all round defender. Yup, all good picks. Kempe is the weakness to me as no offense. Scherbak and Fabbri I have ahead of him. I would be quite happy with those guys. |
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Post by Dschens on Jun 27, 2014 18:24:19 GMT -5
1st overall Aaron Ekblad to Florida.
2nd overall Sam Reinhart to Buffalo.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 27, 2014 18:29:14 GMT -5
Man ... what's with all the good looking women in the stands ... sorry ... the draft ... Ekblad No.1 overall and I think Tallon did the right thing ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 27, 2014 18:30:54 GMT -5
A few guys that "might" be available and on our radar screen at 26 tonight (according to me lol): Ivan Barbashev, C, Moncton (QMJHL), 6'1" 190lbs - The "Russian factor" may see him slip, and he could very well be available at 26. Not your everyday Russian style guy as he plays a very North American game. Good speed, skill and hockey IQ and does not scare away from the physical play. Jack Dougherty, RD, USNTDP (USHL), 6'1" 185lbs - This is a very weak draft for defenders, so they may have a premium and go higher than projected. Dougherty is a physical solid defender, although he could get a bit quicker and his offense is likely limited at the next level. A leader on the US team. Adrian Kempe, C, Modo (SHL), 6'2", 190lbs - Kempe has performed reasonably well given his ice time in the mens league. He sounds a lot like this year's Jacob DLR to be honest. Big, fast, responsible, very coachable, but may have limited offensive upside. He is very strong on the puck and a powerful skater. Travis Sanheim, LD, Calgary (WHL), 6'3", 190lbs - The big riser this draft, he is now seen as one of the best defenders in this draft due to his big rise. A solid all round defender. Have been reading a lot about Barbashev and Kempe ... I'd like to see Kempe in a Habs uniform some day ... Cheers. |
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Post by Dschens on Jun 27, 2014 18:36:32 GMT -5
Man ... what's with all the good looking women in the stands ... You know, Dis ... money rules the world, at least in the eyes of many blond girls.  |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 27, 2014 18:40:28 GMT -5
Now it gets tougher.
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 18:46:15 GMT -5
Going to script so far.
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 19:05:34 GMT -5
Neal to Nashville. Return unknown yet. Hornqvist and Spalling go other way. No picks. Bit surprised at that.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2014 19:08:06 GMT -5
Hornquist and Spaling.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2014 19:09:41 GMT -5
Neal to Nashville. Return unknown yet. Hornqvist and Spalling go other way. No picks. Bit surprised at that. Hmmmm...wonder if the Pittsburgh front office is in a declining trend. |
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 19:11:33 GMT -5
If Kane and Wheeler are there in Winnipeg when Ehlers makes it, they're going to be getting a lot of scoring chances, and they'll be one of the faster lines in the league.
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 19:13:18 GMT -5
Neal to Nashville. Return unknown yet. Hornqvist and Spalling go other way. No picks. Bit surprised at that. Hmmmm...wonder if the Pittsburgh front office is in a declining trend. Hard to say. Maybe Neal's attitude had an impact. Ehlers giving one of the better post pick interviews (though many of them are well spoken these days). He's gonna be a good one. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2014 19:17:36 GMT -5
Ritchie to Ducks. I wonder if he was the guy the Habs wanted to move up for?
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 19:20:49 GMT -5
Ritchie to Ducks. I wonder if he was the guy the Habs wanted to move up for? Hockey IQ was the only low mark. He's as big as Jim Sandlak, and he takes up a lot of room. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2014 19:24:08 GMT -5
Hockey moms,sigh.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 27, 2014 19:25:18 GMT -5
Ritchie to Ducks. I wonder if he was the guy the Habs wanted to move up for? Hockey IQ was the only low mark. He's as big as Jim Sandlak, and he takes up a lot of room. Not crazy about guys with low hockey IQ. I already have enough to rant about with Bourque. Don't need another. |
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Post by blny on Jun 27, 2014 19:25:32 GMT -5
Fiala's is certainly a looker. Rawr lol. |
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