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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 11, 2014 21:14:18 GMT -5
The dogs season opened tonight with a big 6-4 over Rochester.
MacDonald got the win, and goal scored by Bowman, Carr. Dumont, Sorkin, Hudon and Macenauer.
DLR had an assist for his first AHL point. Nygren had a couple of helpers.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 12, 2014 0:27:43 GMT -5
Sweet. Despite Lefebvre.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 12, 2014 9:18:07 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 17, 2014 12:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 23, 2014 15:21:14 GMT -5
Connor Crisp has been cleared medically to play, and has been officially assigned to the Hamilton Bulldogs. One of the new wave of rough and tumble forward prospects, so it will be interesting to see if they insert him into the lineup this weekend and how he does playing full time pro this season. With Beau and Bournival there for both Friday and Saturday's games, the Dogs will have a pretty decent lineup for a lot of this three in three weekend. Let's see if they can convert that into wins!
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Post by seventeen on Oct 23, 2014 15:55:44 GMT -5
A win and two OT losses. Not bad so far. If they can keep going without losing a game in regulation this year, I'll change my mind about Lefebvre.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 24, 2014 13:49:16 GMT -5
A little video preview of the Dogs tilt against the Marlies in TO tonight. This is the start of a busy weekend, with three games in three nights. Tonight's match is in TO, and the other two are back down the road in Hamilton. Tonight's match against the Marlies is already the 2nd of the young season, but they play a total of 12 times during this regular season. They will learn to hate each other if they don't already. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvpY70AUjHA&index=2&list=UUAEJgil7Mse1y5Te35EVRCQ |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Oct 24, 2014 15:51:10 GMT -5
Connor Crisp has been cleared medically to play, and has been officially assigned to the Hamilton Bulldogs. One of the new wave of rough and tumble forward prospects, so it will be interesting to see if they insert him into the lineup this weekend and how he does playing full time pro this season. With Beau and Bournival there for both Friday and Saturday's games, the Dogs will have a pretty decent lineup for a lot of this three in three weekend. Let's see if they can convert that into wins! i guess Nevins could be listed as part of that new wave...... be interesting how the coaching staff juggles the lineup to get these guys playing time |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 24, 2014 19:42:32 GMT -5
3-0 Dogs at the end of two.looks like goaltending as shots are fairly even. Antoine Bibeau has let in 3 goals on 18 shots. Yikes. Beaulieu has one goal, Bournival one assist. Tangradi has the 3rd on a PP. Andrighetto with two points.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 24, 2014 22:25:04 GMT -5
3-0 Dogs at the end of two.looks like goaltending as shots are fairly even. Antoine Bibeau has let in 3 goals on 18 shots. Yikes. Beaulieu has one goal, Bournival one assist. Tangradi has the 3rd on a PP. Andrighetto with two points. Final was 4-1!! Tangradi added his second of the night into the empty cage. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 25, 2014 12:43:32 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Bebop on Oct 26, 2014 14:44:42 GMT -5
I really don't expect Lefebvre to last too much longer if the Bulldogs don't improve. They got a decent roster this year and they have stumbled out of the gate. Power play looks terrible and his line combos looks bad....de la rose almost made the Habs yet he is stuck on the third line? Last season he kept playing Mayer despite being vastly outplayed by Tokarski. I don't trust our young guys in this coaches hands. They are not improving in the most part. Even the veterans we bring to this team that has had consistently good numbers has regressed.
There got to be someone in the QMJHL that can make these kids click
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Post by blny on Oct 26, 2014 15:15:42 GMT -5
I really don't expect Lefebvre to last too much longer if the Bulldogs don't improve. They got a decent roster this year and they have stumbled out of the gate. Power play looks terrible and his line combos looks bad....de la rose almost made the Habs yet he is stuck on the third line? Last season he kept playing Mayer despite being vastly outplayed by Tokarski. I don't trust our young guys in this coaches hands. They are not improving in the most part. Even the veterans we bring to this team that has had consistently good numbers has regressed. There got to be someone in the QMJHL that can make these kids click Ducharme in Halifax. Not sure he'd leave Halifax for an AHL job, but he will get a shot somewhere soon. Offer him the AHL job and tell him if he performs he's got the inside track to replace Therrien when/if time comes. |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Oct 26, 2014 15:48:19 GMT -5
I really don't expect Lefebvre to last too much longer if the Bulldogs don't improve. They got a decent roster this year and they have stumbled out of the gate. Power play looks terrible and his line combos looks bad....de la rose almost made the Habs yet he is stuck on the third line? Last season he kept playing Mayer despite being vastly outplayed by Tokarski. I don't trust our young guys in this coaches hands. They are not improving in the most part. Even the veterans we bring to this team that has had consistently good numbers has regressed. There got to be someone in the QMJHL that can make these kids click Ducharme in Halifax. Not sure he'd leave Halifax for an AHL job, but he will get a shot somewhere soon. Offer him the AHL job and tell him if he performs he's got the inside track to replace Therrien when/if time comes. I heard good things about him.... How about Guy Boucher |
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Post by blny on Oct 26, 2014 17:15:35 GMT -5
Ducharme in Halifax. Not sure he'd leave Halifax for an AHL job, but he will get a shot somewhere soon. Offer him the AHL job and tell him if he performs he's got the inside track to replace Therrien when/if time comes. I heard good things about him.... How about Guy Boucher I wouldn't mind that. Guy's been on the sidelines for a while. Would he work his way back through the AHL again? |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 26, 2014 21:36:16 GMT -5
Been saying it for a while. Even just after he was hired. Why would you hire a guy with a rock solid losing history to coach your farm team? Lefebvre didn't learn any winning habits in his own development. What can he pass on to his charges? How to lose, that's what. It boggles the mind what might have been going through Bergevin's mind when he hired Lefebvre. I keep hearing that Lefebvre was highly regarded. By whom? Some bi-polar talent judges? Or did they just believe everything that came out of his mouth during the interview?
Pathetic, and nothing will change till he's gone. As Jazzyjay mentioned above, how can Delarose look really solid playing in exhibition at the NHL level and do nothing at the AHL level? I didn't realize Lefebvre kept playing Mayer instead of Tokarski, but I know Mayer was a real whipping boy for me. He is a hopeless goalie for that level, yet Sylvain rested Tokarski, who actually knows how to win? Not to mention yet again, that players who can't produce for Lefebvre come up to Montreal and do just fine. Something stinks in Hamilton and it isn't the steel mills.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 26, 2014 21:39:47 GMT -5
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Post by BadCompany on Oct 27, 2014 6:47:42 GMT -5
Not to mention yet again, that players who can't produce for Lefebvre come up to Montreal and do just fine. And maybe that's just it. I haven't watched the Bulldogs, so I can't say for sure, but there has to be some reason why Lefebvre is still there, right? While it may suck for the fans in Hamilton Lefebvre's primary job is to develop players so that they produce when they get to Montreal. I can't say I know the ins and outs of how that works, or why not producing in the AHL somehow translates into playing well in the NHL, but if "fitting in at the NHL level" is your definition of success then I don't know if we can criticize the methods by which Lefebvre gets people there. For what it's worth Pierre McGuire raves about the work Lefebvre is doing in Hamilton. Whether you believe that is a plus or a minus is up to you. Has Bergevin swung the ax on anybody in the management side of the organization? Maybe he's just too loyal to the suits he's hired. Speaking of axes, here is your public service announcement for this week; when using an ax to split logs from the trees you have just cut down, do NOT hold the smaller logs in one hand while trying to lodge the ax into the wood for splitting. Even if the two ends of the log are uneven and you can't get the log to stand up on it's own. Do NOT do this at the best of times, and ESPECIALLY not when it's raining. (I still have all my fingers, thanks for asking) |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 31, 2014 14:06:29 GMT -5
The Bulldogs snapped their three game losing skid this afternoon with a 3-1 victory in Charlotte. Thomas, Dietz and Dumont (empty net) scored for the Dogs. Mike Condon was in net for the win.
If you thought the Habs' PP was bad, the Dogs came into this match with a 7.1% success rate on their PP. They went 0 for 5 today, so that will drop even further. Yikes.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 31, 2014 19:01:18 GMT -5
Everyone's on the same page  |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 31, 2014 22:17:21 GMT -5
Everyone's on the same page Time to rip the PP page out of both coaching manuals and start over!! |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 31, 2014 22:31:09 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Oct 31, 2014 22:44:54 GMT -5
Not to mention yet again, that players who can't produce for Lefebvre come up to Montreal and do just fine. And maybe that's just it. I haven't watched the Bulldogs, so I can't say for sure, but there has to be some reason why Lefebvre is still there, right? While it may suck for the fans in Hamilton Lefebvre's primary job is to develop players so that they produce when they get to Montreal. I can't say I know the ins and outs of how that works, or why not producing in the AHL somehow translates into playing well in the NHL, but if "fitting in at the NHL level" is your definition of success then I don't know if we can criticize the methods by which Lefebvre gets people there. For what it's worth Pierre McGuire raves about the work Lefebvre is doing in Hamilton. Whether you believe that is a plus or a minus is up to you. Has Bergevin swung the ax on anybody in the management side of the organization? Maybe he's just too loyal to the suits he's hired. Speaking of axes, here is your public service announcement for this week; when using an ax to split logs from the trees you have just cut down, do NOT hold the smaller logs in one hand while trying to lodge the ax into the wood for splitting. Even if the two ends of the log are uneven and you can't get the log to stand up on it's own. Do NOT do this at the best of times, and ESPECIALLY not when it's raining. (I still have all my fingers, thanks for asking)You could use a log splitter, but the last time I saw a guy who was using one it was at the ER. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 1, 2014 2:20:45 GMT -5
I haven't watched the Bulldogs, so I can't say for sure, but there has to be some reason why Lefebvre is still there, right? While it may suck for the fans in Hamilton Lefebvre's primary job is to develop players so that they produce when they get to Montreal. I can't say I know the ins and outs of how that works, or why not producing in the AHL somehow translates into playing well in the NHL, but if "fitting in at the NHL level" is your definition of success then I don't know if we can criticize the methods by which Lefebvre gets people there. For what it's worth Pierre McGuire raves about the work Lefebvre is doing in Hamilton. Whether you believe that is a plus or a minus is up to you. Has Bergevin swung the ax on anybody in the management side of the organization? Maybe he's just too loyal to the suits he's hired. To address the less important point of your post (after your fingers....still have that important middle one?) I'd say that developing a winning culture is an important part of any coach's development program. Rather than sending a bunch of guys who have learned all the ways one can possibly lose, why not send kids up who've experienced winning on a large scale? I'd rather have those types of players myself and Lefebvre has proven completely inadequate at that part of his job. I haven't watched the Dogs either, but I can't help wondering what the heck is going on. The guys that impressed me during training camp and the exhibition games, at a standard maybe just a touch above normal AHL level, were Delarose, Nick Sorkin, and Christian Thomas. I also liked Hudon. Andrighetto had his moments, but was weak defensively. So the season starts and Hudon is doing well at 7 points in 8 games and Andrighetto has 6 points in 8 games, but Thomas has 4 in 8, Sorkin has 3 in 8 and Delarose, potentially the best of the bunch has one point in 8 games. Not exactly setting the world on fire. Personally, I think Delarose and Hudon are the best prospects of the bunch, but Thomas looked pretty darn good in his last couple of games, and he's getting half a point a game? I'm hoping the Dogs have a good year, but if they miss the playoffs again, with the talent they have this year, Bergevin is going to have to admit his mistake and replace Mr. Lefebvre. I think you're right in that Lefebvre is his boy, he's built him up to be a future star coach (and where did that idea come from?) so it's really hard to swallow your pride and say "oops". And really, BC, using Pierry McGuire's opinion as support for your point? I wouldn't consider that as any kind of plus. At least not when he's in broadcast mode. Maybe over a beer he says what he really thinks. Ok, your turn  |
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Post by Gogie on Nov 1, 2014 7:50:51 GMT -5
I haven't given this much thought, but couldn't it be argued that the AHL is a training ground for coaches as well as players?
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Post by Lord Bebop on Nov 1, 2014 8:09:03 GMT -5
I haven't given this much thought, but couldn't it be argued that the AHL is a training ground for coaches as well as players? Well the why I see it... I think junior hockey should be the training ground. My concern is Lefebrve came in with no experience at all..... I think he was a assistant for a year or two. When you are trying to build a hockey team within, I don't think it's a good ideal to experiment with a guy who is in charge of developing guys who are this close to making it. I trust Bergerons plan so he knows the whole picture better then me, but it's worrisome seeing young guys regressing under Lefebrve's watch. Or I should say apparent regression. |
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Post by GNick99 on Nov 1, 2014 15:58:17 GMT -5
Hudon if he scores near a PPG as a 20 year in AHL is good sign. Even Gallagher and Plekanec never did that as 20 year olds
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Post by seventeen on Nov 3, 2014 0:10:21 GMT -5
Dogs lose to the Charlotte Checkers tonight, 2-1. charlotte had lost 6 of its first 8 games. Thank god they have the dogs to play or where would their egos be.
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Post by blny on Nov 3, 2014 8:43:41 GMT -5
Hudon if he scores near a PPG as a 20 year in AHL is good sign. Even Gallagher and Plekanec never did that as 20 year olds He also leads the team in +/-. Both good signs. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 3, 2014 10:57:57 GMT -5
Hudon is a really good, smart player. The concern with him would be injuries, because they have tended to trouble him the last 3 years. If my memory is correct (not always so), his back has been problematic. I believe that's why he missed much of the WJC 2 years ago and he missed some games this past WJC as well and/or played hurt. He has a really high hockey IQ, though.
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