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Post by franko on Feb 3, 2015 12:31:07 GMT -5
My greatest concern with a guy like Brendan Gallagher is his ceiling. Will he ever be more than a 20-20 man who frustrates opponents? IMO he's not a 'natural' goal scorer. There's nothing wrong with that as he works as hard as anyone in the league. You need that too. as long as there is someone to replace him . . . you need someone like him yup, always the case. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 3, 2015 14:34:10 GMT -5
So in the last eight days or so the team has called up Christian Thomas, Gabriel Dumont and now Jacob de la Rose. I know we've had some injuries, but geez, isn't that coincidental that these guys are all getting some NHL ice time a month before the trade deadline?  Is that like one of those Far Side "Trouble Brewing" ideas? |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 4, 2015 4:47:11 GMT -5
Today`s game further shows me that Eller is expendable. That short handed 3 on 1 was just another example of his lack of hockey IQ, vision and offensive talent. It was brutal to watch. IMHO, I`m convinced that De La Rose would be able to produce comparable numbers and also be a smart two way player. So bottom line, if the Habs can obtain someone like Vermette, without costing too much, I would welcome it gladly. Eller for Vermette likely is doable but Vermette 33 and UFA. Eller is good playoff guy though. I would probably pass. Unless it is expandable to include Yandle type. |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 4, 2015 8:47:21 GMT -5
Evander Kane a healthy scratch last night.
Read into that what you will.
Zack Kassian also a regular healthy scratch these days, with rumors saying he could be traded at any minute. He's never lived up to his advanced billing, but he just turned 24, and he did score 15 goals last year. Worth a gamble?
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Post by blny on Feb 4, 2015 9:48:32 GMT -5
Kassian has been a strong rumour to go some where for a while. He'd up the grit factor, but that's it. Kane being a scratch is nothing all that new imo. He's a talented player, no doubt. But I dare say Maurice has had it with him.
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Post by franko on Feb 4, 2015 10:29:46 GMT -5
Winnipeg Jets head coach Paul Maurice had very little to say Tuesday night about why he unexpectedly decided to bench Evander Kane the game against the Vancouver Canucks.
"Coaches decision not to be in the lineup tonight," Maurice said after a 3-2 overtime loss to the Canucks at Rogers Arena pushed Winnipeg’s losing streak to a season-high five games but at least salvaged the Jets a much needed point.
Asked if he cared to expand on his answer, Maurice bristled. "What do you think the chances of you getting more are? We work together." Winnipeg Free Pressrumour: late for practice (not even broke curfew -- this time). do we really want to bring back trouble?
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Post by blny on Feb 4, 2015 10:46:01 GMT -5
Winnipeg Jets head coach Paul Maurice had very little to say Tuesday night about why he unexpectedly decided to bench Evander Kane the game against the Vancouver Canucks.
"Coaches decision not to be in the lineup tonight," Maurice said after a 3-2 overtime loss to the Canucks at Rogers Arena pushed Winnipeg’s losing streak to a season-high five games but at least salvaged the Jets a much needed point.
Asked if he cared to expand on his answer, Maurice bristled. "What do you think the chances of you getting more are? We work together." Winnipeg Free Pressrumour: late for practice (not even broke curfew -- this time). do we really want to bring back trouble? Nope. IMO, he's not a Bergevin player. |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 4, 2015 11:00:22 GMT -5
I'd take a chance on Kane...hanging with PK and Price will teach him how to be a Pro.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 4, 2015 12:15:29 GMT -5
I'd take a chance on Kane...hanging with PK and Price will teach him how to be a Pro. If not, then Therrien would show him the press box ... he'd have no problem doing that ... just ask PK ... still, the kid has talent and you can't teach that ... we'd be better with him ... Kassian would be a good lower-lines kind of guy and his size would be welcome especially during the playoffs ... Cheers. |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 4, 2015 12:56:47 GMT -5
Just heard these points on the radio.
Currently on the Jets, Kane is a $6 million 3rd line left-winger.
Averages .59 pts. per game over his career.
He got 30 goals once….and his agent (Newport) squeezed the Jets into signing the big contract.
Not to mention the supposed attitude problem.
Age 23....big, strong….skilled….but not what you'd call a prolific scorer for that contract.
Jeff O'Neill said, "I've talked with some guys who played with him at the World Championships. It's not good. No thanks."
That speaks to attitude.
Maybe he'd magically mature in Montreal! Ha!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 4, 2015 13:57:35 GMT -5
Kassian has been a strong rumour to go some where for a while. He'd up the grit factor, but that's it. Kane being a scratch is nothing all that new imo. He's a talented player, no doubt. But I dare say Maurice has had it with him. Was listening to the TSN panel the other day and they were saying Ottawa is getting a lot calls on Chris Neil. Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 4, 2015 15:58:44 GMT -5
Here's one of Elliotte Friedmann's 30 thoughts that came out today:
2. The circumstances are eerily similar. High-profile game? Check. Surprise scratch? Check. Tight-lipped coach not giving away much? Check. For the second time in less than a calendar year, Paul Maurice wasn’t offering many clues about a decision to bench Evander Kane. The first occasion was last April on a Saturday Hockey Night in Canada broadcast, the second was Tuesday in Vancouver, Kane’s hometown. Kane’s been hurt, but if this is injury-related, Maurice would say so. Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff better charge his Mophie for Wednesday. He’s going to get 29 calls asking what’s happening.
Me, I'd be jumping all over that. In response to Jeff O'Neill's comment, I find that I tend to disagree constantly with his opinions. I think he says things more to get a rise and to improve his ratings than he does to relay facts. So if he doesn't like Kane, I'm all for him.
He probably has his immaturity issues. Or he may be a bad apple. I don't know, but he's young, he's in a city that's hardly to his liking (which might make him worse in Montreal), but I still think with some guidance and help (Gallagher's a former teammate and friend), he could turn that around. His skill is obvious. He'd be a solution to that second scorer that we need and his injuries and reputation have brought his price to as low as it might be given his potential. It's worth a risk, IMO.
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 5, 2015 4:46:02 GMT -5
Winnipeg Jets head coach Paul Maurice had very little to say Tuesday night about why he unexpectedly decided to bench Evander Kane the game against the Vancouver Canucks.
"Coaches decision not to be in the lineup tonight," Maurice said after a 3-2 overtime loss to the Canucks at Rogers Arena pushed Winnipeg’s losing streak to a season-high five games but at least salvaged the Jets a much needed point.
Asked if he cared to expand on his answer, Maurice bristled. "What do you think the chances of you getting more are? We work together." Winnipeg Free Pressrumour: late for practice (not even broke curfew -- this time). do we really want to bring back trouble? Been issues with him a number of times |
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Post by blny on Feb 5, 2015 7:04:31 GMT -5
Official word is he showed up to the rink in a track suit (instead of dress suit attire), which is a violation of team policy. He knew doing it would get him in trouble, regardless of whether it's a good reason to be scratched or not. Last straw.
Said it before, I'd rather have Wheeler if I had my pick of players.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 5, 2015 9:55:47 GMT -5
Official word is he showed up to the rink in a track suit (instead of dress suit attire), which is a violation of team policy. He knew doing it would get him in trouble, regardless of whether it's a good reason to be scratched or not. Last straw. Said it before, I'd rather have Wheeler if I had my pick of players. kind of reminds me of Latendress's situation a while back. Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 5, 2015 10:13:03 GMT -5
Just found this on TSN (Ice Chips):
F Evander Kane could undergo surgery for undisclosed injury. Has reportedly been dealing with injury for most of the season and troubles with team could lead to opting for operation. - Gary Lawless, @garylawless - Winnipeg Free Press
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 5, 2015 10:25:16 GMT -5
Interesting article on Evander Kane Evander Kane It is interesting in the poll that the majority of people would send Tinordi+Eller+a 3rd round pick for Kane. |
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Post by halihab on Feb 5, 2015 10:38:48 GMT -5
Official word is he showed up to the rink in a track suit (instead of dress suit attire), which is a violation of team policy. He knew doing it would get him in trouble, regardless of whether it's a good reason to be scratched or not. Last straw. Said it before, I'd rather have Wheeler if I had my pick of players. I'm with you on that one. Wheeler is a much better catch than Kane. Problem is, Winnipeg likes him alot. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 5, 2015 11:43:14 GMT -5
Interesting article on Evander Kane Evander Kane It is interesting in the poll that the majority of people would send Tinordi+Eller+a 3rd round pick for Kane. Good find ... Montreal would be getting the best player in the deal and Tinordi would get enough chances to play regularly in the NHL ... who would we have to replace Eller ... he might not be showing offensive prowess but he does play very well in his own end ... also, what is Kane's injury status ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 5, 2015 12:51:28 GMT -5
Interesting article on Evander Kane Evander Kane It is interesting in the poll that the majority of people would send Tinordi+Eller+a 3rd round pick for Kane. Good find ... Montreal would be getting the best player in the deal and Tinordi would get enough chances to play regularly in the NHL ... who would we have to replace Eller ... he might not be showing offensive prowess but he does play very well in his own end ... also, what is Kane's injury status ... Cheers. Malholtra would come back in on the 4th line, DD on the 3rd, Galchy on the 2nd and Pleky on the first. |
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Post by franko on Feb 5, 2015 13:03:54 GMT -5
Good find ... Montreal would be getting the best player in the deal and Tinordi would get enough chances to play regularly in the NHL ... who would we have to replace Eller ... he might not be showing offensive prowess but he does play very well in his own end ... also, what is Kane's injury status ... Cheers. Malholtra would come back in on the 4th line, DD on the 3rd, Galchy on the 2nd and Pleky on the first. are you suggesting that MT would move Max down to the third line? |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 5, 2015 13:11:40 GMT -5
Tough call. You are talking about a 3rd line centre (Eller) plus a D prospect who management doesn't seem to have much confidence in (Tinordi) plus a pick for a 23-year old top 6 forward locked up for the next 3 seasons at a reasonable cap hit of $5.25 million.
This is the kind of long-term, team building trade you like to see.... as long as you are targeting the right guy. And that's what scares me. Kane has the draft pedigree and talent, but you wonder about his character and work ethic and his production is OK but not great at 0.30 GPA or 25 goals a year. Nothing to sneeze at in this day and age, but I'm not sure he's a Bergevin/Therrien guy.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 5, 2015 13:40:37 GMT -5
Malholtra would come back in on the 4th line, DD on the 3rd, Galchy on the 2nd and Pleky on the first. are you suggesting that MT would move Max down to the third line? lol... MT will do anything to keep those 2 together. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 5, 2015 13:53:42 GMT -5
Tough call. You are talking about a 3rd line centre (Eller) plus a D prospect who management doesn't seem to have much confidence in (Tinordi) plus a pick for a 23-year old top 6 forward locked up for the next 3 seasons at a reasonable cap hit of $5.25 million. This is the kind of long-term, team building trade you like to see.... as long as you are targeting the right guy. And that's what scares me. Kane has the draft pedigree and talent, but you wonder about his character and work ethic and his production is OK but not great at 0.30 GPA or 25 goals a year. Nothing to sneeze at in this day and age, but I'm not sure he's a Bergevin/Therrien guy. It would take a strong leader to keep Kane focused, IMO. I worry that the bright lights of the big city could be a huuuuge issue. The Habs had not done a very good job of mentoring people. Although Josh was very good for bGal, prior to that there really was not anything. I would like to see Pleky/Carey/Max, take on mentoring... they are all married, live in nice houses, in good communities (Nunns island for example). It is quite expensive for kane, imo, I would prefer Eller+Tinordi+3rd for Kane+2nd. If we were going to Move Eller+Tinrodi+3rd, why wouldn't we work out a deal with the Oilers, they are looking for centres and a D man, aren't they? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 5, 2015 14:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Feb 5, 2015 16:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 5, 2015 16:23:18 GMT -5
Interesting article on Evander Kane Evander Kane It is interesting in the poll that the majority of people would send Tinordi+Eller+a 3rd round pick for Kane. No way would I part with that much for injured player with character issues. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 5, 2015 16:27:10 GMT -5
Well, it keeps getting better and better with Mr Kane ... first TSN reports that he's looking at surgery and now the Sun reports he's had a run-in with his teammates ... Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Feb 5, 2015 17:04:46 GMT -5
McKenzie spoke about that run in in the link I posted as well. Essentially, after showing up in the track suit he chose to take the team bus with his teammates. While on the bus one particular teammate (unnamed) rode him pretty hard. Evander didn't like it and pitched a bit of a fit.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 5, 2015 17:36:00 GMT -5
McKenzie spoke about that run in in the link I posted as well. Essentially, after showing up in the track suit he chose to take the team bus with his teammates. While on the bus one particular teammate (unnamed) rode him pretty hard. Evander didn't like it and pitched a bit of a fit. You know, blny, Bergevin had done a great job removing the drama that swirled around our club for a few years ... I know Kane has the talent ... maybe he's a problem and maybe he's just trying his best to get out of Winnipeg ... dunno ... Cheers. |
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