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Post by blny on Feb 14, 2015 22:39:15 GMT -5
What's this on TSN, where the Leafs are asking about Bournival and Thomas? Rumour is more or less started by a CTV reporter that hfboards says is akin to eklund, or worse. Brian Wilde, I think his name is. Names on the Leafs range from Kessel to Santorelli and Winnik. I don't have any interest in Kessel, because you'd have to call up Boston to see if they still had his heart and acquire it in another deal. Santorelli and Winnik are grinder types. Nice to have, but not appreciably better than what we have. |
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Post by blny on Feb 14, 2015 22:52:57 GMT -5
Friedman reporting tonight that the Jackets are accepting offers on any of their defencemen not named Murray or Savard. Names of interest would include Jack Johnson, Tyutin, and Wisniewski.
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Post by franko on Feb 15, 2015 1:44:42 GMT -5
Neil's out; fractured thumb.
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Post by jkr on Feb 15, 2015 9:03:28 GMT -5
Friedman reporting tonight that the Jackets are accepting offers on any of their defencemen not named Murray or Savard. Names of interest would include Jack Johnson, Tyutin, and Wisniewski. Shh! Don't tell Boston Habs that Wisniewski is available.  |
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 11:17:24 GMT -5
Friedman reporting tonight that the Jackets are accepting offers on any of their defencemen not named Murray or Savard. Names of interest would include Jack Johnson, Tyutin, and Wisniewski. Shh! Don't tell Boston Habs that Wisniewski is available. LOL |
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 12:50:53 GMT -5
Bergevin is apparently in Chicago today, for their game against the Pens this afternoon. Sharp anyone?
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 15, 2015 13:06:19 GMT -5
Bergevin is apparently in Chicago today, for their game against the Pens this afternoon. Sharp anyone? Yup. Steady player, good hands, great wheels... raised in a winning organization. I'd be glad to have him. |
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 13:14:17 GMT -5
Bergevin is apparently in Chicago today, for their game against the Pens this afternoon. Sharp anyone? Yup. Steady player, good hands, great wheels... raised in a winning organization. I'd be glad to have him. I think he'd be a good fit too. Most don't think he'll get traded before the summer, but if we send something of value back, at less salary given their cap situation, maybe it works. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 15, 2015 13:30:49 GMT -5
If he is gone to Chicago ...I won't be surprised if it's to look at Roszival and Pouilot
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Post by Skilly on Feb 15, 2015 13:40:02 GMT -5
Or Scuderi
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 15, 2015 14:23:50 GMT -5
Talks heating up with Dallas: Cody Eakin/Jason Demers for Eller +
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 14:43:20 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Feb 15, 2015 14:58:29 GMT -5
Demers already traded earlier this season - from SJ to Dallas for Brenden Dillon. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 15, 2015 17:07:50 GMT -5
I hate that Dallas rumour ... That makes us worse
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 17:24:00 GMT -5
I hate that Dallas rumour ... That makes us worse On the surface, I'd have to agree. Eakin does look interesting though. Greg Pateryn has been called up. He'll be in Detroit tomorrow. Gonchar listed day to day. Perhaps just a fill in. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 15, 2015 17:52:49 GMT -5
I guess that tells us a lot about Habs opinion of Tinordi.
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 18:00:29 GMT -5
I guess that tells us a lot about Habs opinion of Tinordi. Hard to say. Pateryn is arguably a better skater and definitely provides more offense and puck moving ability. If he's in to replace Gonchar for a couple of games, it makes sense. If teams are asking about him in particular, it makes sense. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 15, 2015 18:05:43 GMT -5
I guess that tells us a lot about Habs opinion of Tinordi. Is Tinordi playing again? |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 15, 2015 18:10:21 GMT -5
Yes, he played most recently on Friday against the Marlies. What is working against him in this case is the fact he's a left defenseman and Gonchar played right. Unlikely they'd spot him on the right or move one of Emelin or Beaulieu to the right.
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 15, 2015 18:33:43 GMT -5
Bergevin is apparently in Chicago today, for their game against the Pens this afternoon. Sharp anyone? Hawks wouldn't deal Sharp this close to a cup would they |
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 18:41:16 GMT -5
Bergevin is apparently in Chicago today, for their game against the Pens this afternoon. Sharp anyone? Hawks wouldn't deal Sharp this close to a cup would they Unlikely, but someone's got to go at some point. He was playing on the 4th line recently. |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 15, 2015 19:35:38 GMT -5
Hawks wouldn't deal Sharp this close to a cup would they Unlikely, but someone's got to go at some point. He was playing on the 4th line recently. I can't see Black Hawks moving Sharp at this point in season unless his skills have started to erode. If it was need for caproom they can trade him in the summer. His stats are lower than usual however. Then again, if he started to decline how wise is it to trade for him? |
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Post by Douper on Feb 15, 2015 19:46:31 GMT -5
Pateryn won't play, Gilbert will take Gonchar's place and Weaver will stay in.
As for the Dallas rumor? I think it's a wash of a deal, why do it? Eller proved he can play in the playoffs. We don't know about Eakin or Demers.
I like Eller, I think he just needs to realize he is not a TOP 6! Once he realizes this he will be great as a #3 Centre/Winger.
Here's what we need to do.
#1. Get Jagr for a 3rd and a Prospect (Pateryn?...)
Galchenyuk Plekanec Jagr
#2. Get Jeff Petry-Boyd Gordon for Bournival - 2nd, Crisp(or someone like that)
Here's what we would have:
Patches Desharnais Weise
Galchenyuk Plekanec Jagr
Eller JDL Gallagher
Prust Malholtra Gordon
Subban Markov
Petry Emelin
Beaulieu Gonchar
Price
Wish there was a real big pending UFA dman we could get but there's no Pronger available.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 15, 2015 20:06:34 GMT -5
I guess that tells us a lot about Habs opinion of Tinordi. Or they could be protecting him because he is trade bait .... If he gets injured (again) it could ruin any deal |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 15, 2015 20:13:23 GMT -5
I hate that Dallas rumour ... That makes us worse On the surface, I'd have to agree. Eakin does look interesting though. Greg Pateryn has been called up. He'll be in Detroit tomorrow. Gonchar listed day to day. Perhaps just a fill in. What we do know is that Eller is pretty good in the playoffs. We acquired players in the past based solely on their playoff abilities, and here we have one and now is not the time to dump him. Also, Eller , as BH loves to remind us, is a Corsi-Fenwick demon! And he starts most of his shifts in the Defense zone against other teams best lines usually. How does Eakin shape up there? You need the little things done well to go on a playoff run, and while it would be nice for Eller to produce more, it's not the role he has been given on this team. |
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 20:18:40 GMT -5
Unlikely, but someone's got to go at some point. He was playing on the 4th line recently. I can't see Black Hawks moving Sharp at this point in season unless his skills have started to erode. If it was need for caproom they can trade him in the summer. His stats are lower than usual however. Then again, if he started to decline how wise is it to trade for him? I don't think he's diminishing yet. He had more than thirty goals last year and nearly 80 points. He's got 31 points in 43 games this year. I think it's merely a numbers game. If the Hawks had their druthers they'd probably try and part with Hossa - who's still producing as well. But, there are huge cap penalties if they trade him, or if he retires before the end of the contract. He's a Hawk til he's done. Seabrook and Keith eat up a huge part of the minutes that go to defense. They're a great pair. Hjalmarsson and Oduya give them a good second pair. The third pair is a toss up of Rozsival, JVR's brother, Runblad, and Erixon. Those last three are all under 24. I just can't see the Hawks trading away veteran defense. If anything, they'd want to add for their run. Sharp plays left side in Chicago. They've got Brandon Saad moving up their depth chart fast, and he's still cheap, for now. He's RFA this summer, and will want a heft raise over his ELC. Do the Hawks have to make a move now? No. Should they? Maybe not. But, they're far more insulated up front than they are on defense. Either one of Seabrook or Keith go down ... Moving Sharp now, for a defender ++ does have merit. |
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 20:30:41 GMT -5
Eller's situation doesn't have anything to do with him trying to be more than he is imo. The Habs have done a poor job helping to determine what he is. Right now, he's a 3c by default as much as anything. Right now, he's a strong player in the analytics department, plays hard minutes, and does what's asked of him. What we do know is that he is not effective on the wing and he's never been given a real shot at top 6 minutes with top 6 line mates. He spent a year and half under Therrien as a winger being completely misused. Who does he get to play with most nights now that he is at center? Guys like Bourque, Prust, this year Sekac a rookie. No one has given him 10 games or more with the Gals. Or something similar. Given line mates with some finish to their game I still believe he can max out as a 20 and 50pt man. Maybe more. He's still not 26.
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Post by jkr on Feb 15, 2015 21:15:50 GMT -5
Eller's situation doesn't have anything to do with him trying to be more than he is imo. The Habs have done a poor job helping to determine what he is. Right now, he's a 3c by default as much as anything. Right now, he's a strong player in the analytics department, plays hard minutes, and does what's asked of him. What we do know is that he is not effective on the wing and he's never been given a real shot at top 6 minutes with top 6 line mates. He spent a year and half under Therrien as a winger being completely misused. Who does he get to play with most nights now that he is at center? Guys like Bourque, Prust, this year Sekac a rookie. No one has given him 10 games or more with the Gals. Or something similar. Given line mates with some finish to their game I still believe he can max out as a 20 and 50pt man. Maybe more. He's still not 26. I'm on the fence about Eller. He 's described as good in the playoffs but he's only had one playoff - last year. Does that mean he will be good ever year? Maybe he will but we don't know if it's the start of a desired pattern or just a one off. |
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2015 21:39:13 GMT -5
Eller's situation doesn't have anything to do with him trying to be more than he is imo. The Habs have done a poor job helping to determine what he is. Right now, he's a 3c by default as much as anything. Right now, he's a strong player in the analytics department, plays hard minutes, and does what's asked of him. What we do know is that he is not effective on the wing and he's never been given a real shot at top 6 minutes with top 6 line mates. He spent a year and half under Therrien as a winger being completely misused. Who does he get to play with most nights now that he is at center? Guys like Bourque, Prust, this year Sekac a rookie. No one has given him 10 games or more with the Gals. Or something similar. Given line mates with some finish to their game I still believe he can max out as a 20 and 50pt man. Maybe more. He's still not 26. I'm on the fence about Eller. He 's described as good in the playoffs but he's only had one playoff - last year. Does that mean he will be good ever year? Maybe he will but we don't know if it's the start of a desired pattern or just a one off. Granted it was only part of a game, but prior to Gryba taking him out he was dominating in that game against the Sens. I believe it was a sign, and he certainly played well last year. He may never be more than a really good 3c, but he's hardly been given the chance to prove himself more. |
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Post by PTH on Feb 15, 2015 23:12:33 GMT -5
Eller's situation doesn't have anything to do with him trying to be more than he is imo. The Habs have done a poor job helping to determine what he is. Right now, he's a 3c by default as much as anything. Right now, he's a strong player in the analytics department, plays hard minutes, and does what's asked of him. What we do know is that he is not effective on the wing and he's never been given a real shot at top 6 minutes with top 6 line mates. He spent a year and half under Therrien as a winger being completely misused. Who does he get to play with most nights now that he is at center? Guys like Bourque, Prust, this year Sekac a rookie. No one has given him 10 games or more with the Gals. Or something similar. Given line mates with some finish to their game I still believe he can max out as a 20 and 50pt man. Maybe more. He's still not 26. I'm on the fence about Eller. He 's described as good in the playoffs but he's only had one playoff - last year. Does that mean he will be good ever year? Maybe he will but we don't know if it's the start of a desired pattern or just a one off. I'm kind of the same way. He has all these tools - skill, size, but somehow can't put it together convincingly. DLR might not have quite the same skills, but with a better head on his shoulders and better hockey sense, I think he can be a better #3 center. |
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