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Post by GNick99 on Feb 19, 2015 10:20:20 GMT -5
I think Bergs said that about Eller last summer(probably why he handed him a lofty contract), Eller has regressed since. Not sure Bergs holds same opinion |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 19, 2015 10:20:24 GMT -5
I'm looking for a reference to confirm it but I guess Bergevin, Dudley and Carriere are all at the Pathers/Leafs game tonight ... Cheers. I don't think Florida will be sellers. |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 19, 2015 10:23:26 GMT -5
I cannot imagine Subban and Phaneuf getting along too well. Subban and Kessel I don't see any problem with, because Kessel just wants to be left alone. Phaneuf though? He wants to be top dog, and I don't think he's going to play too well with PK. The battles over who controls the music in the dressing room alone could cost us a Cup. Subban and Kessel are best friends....they hang out all off season. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 19, 2015 11:28:54 GMT -5
I sure hope they give Tinordi a good chance to show what he can do before acquiring guys like Polak...
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Post by seventeen on Feb 19, 2015 11:39:57 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Polak. Decent skater. Strong like ox. Reasonable contract. I remember BC comparing him to one of our guys a few years back when we had to sign them. I just can't recall if it was Gorges or (yikes) Komisarek. I did? I don't remember mentioning Polak at all, besides making some politically incorrect jokes that is. And not in conjunction with Roman.Could have happened I supposed, I post a lot of crap stuff, but I don't remember doing so. If Emelin is out long term Polak might be a decent replacement for that style of player. Pretty sure you did. My memory is quite selective, but I do recall you comparing one of our guys to Polak over a contract number. I hadn't paid much attention to him until them. Not that I'm going to search it out to prove I don't yet have dementia. I'm too lazy for that. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 19, 2015 11:43:55 GMT -5
I sure hope they give Tinordi a good chance to show what he can do before acquiring guys like Polak... That's a much cheaper option, for sure, Doc. Polak would cost. Let's hope that Tinordi is less awkward than he has shown. If his muscles have caught up to his growth, his coordination should be better and thus his passing, skating, etc. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 19, 2015 11:51:03 GMT -5
I'm looking for a reference to confirm it but I guess Bergevin, Dudley and Carriere are all at the Pathers/Leafs game tonight ... Cheers. I don't think Florida will be sellers. They're getting pretty close to Boston with the team they have now ... don't know what Bergevin would be talking to them about ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 19, 2015 11:52:52 GMT -5
I don't think Florida will be sellers. They're getting pretty close to Boston with the team they have now ... don't know what Bergevin would be talking to them about ... Cheers. Bergenheim perhaps Bergenheim wants out of Florida |
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 12:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by Polarice on Feb 19, 2015 12:13:32 GMT -5
Big kid, but he doesn't hit!! |
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 12:32:42 GMT -5
Big kid, but he doesn't hit!! He's not a bruiser no. But he's got the size and mobility to handle the fore check. |
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Post by halihab on Feb 19, 2015 12:51:02 GMT -5
Big kid, but he doesn't hit!! He's not a bruiser no. But he's got the size and mobility to handle the fore check. He's also an excellent skater. |
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 12:57:19 GMT -5
He's not a bruiser no. But he's got the size and mobility to handle the fore check. He's also an excellent skater. Yes. I was implying it in the mobility thing. He's definitely fleet of foot. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 19, 2015 13:15:11 GMT -5
I'm drifting more and more toward the do-nothing strategy. I don't like our team's chances this year. Next year your chances will be at least as good and we may have some other bullets in the gun.
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Post by halihab on Feb 19, 2015 13:19:04 GMT -5
I'm drifting more and more toward the do-nothing strategy. I don't like our team's chances this year. Next year your chances will be at least as good and we may have some other bullets in the gun. I think we are 1 defenseman (Big stay at home - tough) and a pure goal scorer away from winning the East. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 19, 2015 13:26:09 GMT -5
I'm drifting more and more toward the do-nothing strategy. I don't like our team's chances this year. Next year your chances will be at least as good and we may have some other bullets in the gun. I think we are 1 defenseman (Big stay at home - tough) and a pure goal scorer away from winning the East. But what do we have to give up? ... and i don't care about winning the east... cup or nothing imo |
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 13:39:04 GMT -5
I think we are 1 defenseman (Big stay at home - tough) and a pure goal scorer away from winning the East. But what do we have to give up? ... and i don't care about winning the east... cup or nothing imo Depends on the trade partner. If Berg can pull off a traditional hockey trade, maybe we move a redundant piece to land something in the area we're missing. I think of it this way: I like Eller. I think he's more than he's been given the chance to be. I know Berg has said there are players that get you there, and there are players that get you through it when you get there. Eller has shown he can step up his game. But, we have too many centers. Eller isn't going to improve our goal scoring and finishing (even in a second line capacity). We don't have the solution in the system. Perhaps our two best prospects in that regard are Scherbak and McCarron. They're likely years away. Put it this way. If Scherbak were drafted a year earlier, and he was the asking price in a deal for Vanek, I'd have strongly considered it. I wouldn't have added the piece they did with Collberg, as I believe Scherbak would have had more value. He certainly does now imo. As a GM, if someone is offering up a legit 30g man for one prospect you have to really think about it. Hell, if I thought I could get a guy like Wayne Simmonds for Scherbak alone, I'd do it. Simmonds is 25, plays a big game, and has knocked on the door of 30 twice already. He should again this year too. He's a right shooting RW. He'd be a perfect fit imo. In reality, it would likely take more than that. Scherbak, and a first at least. And, I'd still consider it. Scherbak isn't a sure thing. He is extremely promising, but if I can get a 25 year old player signed long term who can score and play physical, like Simmonds, I'm calling that team quickly. |
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 19, 2015 13:54:23 GMT -5
Simmonds is exactly what we need up front (other than the elusive #1 centre)
But Philly is only 7 pts. behind a struggling Boston club….and 3 behind the Panthers.
They get no one to replace Simmonds right away….so they'll have to make another move…..IF management thinks they have a shot at catching Boston.
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 14:13:41 GMT -5
Simmonds is exactly what we need up front (other than the elusive #1 centre) But Philly is only 7 pts. behind a struggling Boston club….and 3 behind the Panthers. They get no one to replace Simmonds right away….so they'll have to make another move…..IF management thinks they have a shot at catching Boston. You're right, they're not out of it. The window is shrinking, but it's still open. Conversely, Berg could kick the tires in LA about Toffoli (realizing he's a center and having no idea if he can play the wing). Toffoli is an RFA, of which the Kings have a large number. He'll command a hefty raise from his ELC. The Kings are in, by the skin of their teeth. There aren't a plethora of RWs out there. Even fewer if you try and kick the tires of bubble teams or ones on the out looking in. According to Hockey's Future, the Flyers have a goalie prospect by the name of Stolarz playing on their AHL team. He's got a good overall rating of 7C. Fucale is an  at this point (higher ceiling, but as of yet lower chance of meeting it because he's not playing pro). The Flyers, as we know, have been dying for a true #1 for more than 20 years. I've been reluctant to move Fucale because of how thin our prospect depth in net is, but the could replace Fucale with a second round pick this year. Blackwood, with the Barrie Colts, projects to be the #1 ranked goalie. Perhaps the Canadiens trade their late first for one of the top two picks in the second round ... get more picks in process. www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=203280There are so few present needs that could legitimately push the Habs over the top. Strike while the iron is hot. |
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 14:27:24 GMT -5
... the Sharks would also be a team worth investigating. They're outside the playoffs. There's a lot of pressure on Doug Wilson and company. IMO, the usual suspects are out of the question. But, what about Brent Burns? Big, mobile. Presently playing the RW. Two years left on a reasonable contract. Plays big. Scores. And, who wouldn't want this mug on their team?  They've got Pavelski, Couture and Thornton as 'centers'. I believe Pavelski plays the wing? Hertl is playing the wing too I believe. Their goaltending depth is pretty bad. I'd be more hesitant to move Fucale for Burns, because he's older and produces less than Simmonds, and costs more, but it puts Fucale in the other conference. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 19, 2015 14:52:52 GMT -5
... the Sharks would also be a team worth investigating. They're outside the playoffs. There's a lot of pressure on Doug Wilson and company. IMO, the usual suspects are out of the question. But, what about Brent Burns? Big, mobile. Presently playing the RW. Two years left on a reasonable contract. Plays big. Scores. And, who wouldn't want this mug on their team? They've got Pavelski, Couture and Thornton as 'centers'. I believe Pavelski plays the wing? Hertl is playing the wing too I believe. Their goaltending depth is pretty bad. I'd be more hesitant to move Fucale for Burns, because he's older and produces less than Simmonds, and costs more, but it puts Fucale in the other conference. Has anybody been watching "Road to the Stadium Series"? It profiles the Sharks & Kings. Burns seems like a character & I mean that in a good way. He's got that huge beard, no teeth & drives around in something that looks like a delivery van. Big cap hit for the next 2 years - 5.7 million. I'm sure Minnesota would like a do over on that trade with the Sharks: 2011-Jun-24 Traded from Minnesota Wild with round 2 pick in the 2012 draft (Pontus Aberg) to San Jose Sharks for Charlie Coyle, Devin Setoguchi and round 1 pick in the 2011 draft (Zack Phillips |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 19, 2015 15:11:58 GMT -5
I see where that Bigfoot photo came from.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 19, 2015 15:12:49 GMT -5
Simmonds is exactly what we need up front (other than the elusive #1 centre) But Philly is only 7 pts. behind a struggling Boston club….and 3 behind the Panthers. They get no one to replace Simmonds right away….so they'll have to make another move…..IF management thinks they have a shot at catching Boston. You're right, they're not out of it. The window is shrinking, but it's still open. Conversely, Berg could kick the tires in LA about Toffoli (realizing he's a center and having no idea if he can play the wing). Toffoli is an RFA, of which the Kings have a large number. He'll command a hefty raise from his ELC. The Kings are in, by the skin of their teeth. There aren't a plethora of RWs out there. Even fewer if you try and kick the tires of bubble teams or ones on the out looking in. According to Hockey's Future, the Flyers have a goalie prospect by the name of Stolarz playing on their AHL team. He's got a good overall rating of 7C. Fucale is an at this point (higher ceiling, but as of yet lower chance of meeting it because he's not playing pro). The Flyers, as we know, have been dying for a true #1 for more than 20 years. I've been reluctant to move Fucale because of how thin our prospect depth in net is, but the could replace Fucale with a second round pick this year. Blackwood, with the Barrie Colts, projects to be the #1 ranked goalie. Perhaps the Canadiens trade their late first for one of the top two picks in the second round ... get more picks in process. www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=203280There are so few present needs that could legitimately push the Habs over the top. Strike while the iron is hot. Kings aren't trading Toffoli to anyone. |
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 15:44:20 GMT -5
You're right, they're not out of it. The window is shrinking, but it's still open. Conversely, Berg could kick the tires in LA about Toffoli (realizing he's a center and having no idea if he can play the wing). Toffoli is an RFA, of which the Kings have a large number. He'll command a hefty raise from his ELC. The Kings are in, by the skin of their teeth. There aren't a plethora of RWs out there. Even fewer if you try and kick the tires of bubble teams or ones on the out looking in. According to Hockey's Future, the Flyers have a goalie prospect by the name of Stolarz playing on their AHL team. He's got a good overall rating of 7C. Fucale is an at this point (higher ceiling, but as of yet lower chance of meeting it because he's not playing pro). The Flyers, as we know, have been dying for a true #1 for more than 20 years. I've been reluctant to move Fucale because of how thin our prospect depth in net is, but the could replace Fucale with a second round pick this year. Blackwood, with the Barrie Colts, projects to be the #1 ranked goalie. Perhaps the Canadiens trade their late first for one of the top two picks in the second round ... get more picks in process. www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=203280There are so few present needs that could legitimately push the Habs over the top. Strike while the iron is hot. Kings aren't trading Toffoli to anyone. Very unlikely, I agree. But ... never hurts to ask.  |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 19, 2015 15:58:30 GMT -5
:)Dreamer.
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 19, 2015 16:29:22 GMT -5
The Jackets are 12 points out of a wild-card.
Do they re-jig a bit?
Think we could use a guy like Scott Hartnell….if he plays his Philly-style? Habs' fans would love a player like that.
A skilled, tough forward. He's 32….he's got a run left in him.
He's a LW, I know….but we could sure use a backbone player like that.
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Post by Douper on Feb 19, 2015 17:09:20 GMT -5
Emelin might be out for 6 weeks. Tinordi has a week to show he belongs or else Bergevin is going to bring in a Dman for sure.
As for up front. I'd call for Hartnell from Columbus (great idea CH), Purcell from the Oilers, Winnik from the Leafs and dare I say Kessel.(not all of them obviously)
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 19, 2015 17:26:28 GMT -5
Thanks Douper….but I think Hartnell's name has come up here before….so I can't take credit for that idea…just revisiting considering the Ottawa rough-housing.
RE: Kessel. It's not his skill that makes me skittish…it's the alleged attitude.
I'd gladly take on that contract for a Gomez who actually produces.
It's not Gomez's fault that Sather offered him ridiculous money.
Nor is it Kessel's fault….but Gomez has always been, reportedly, well-liked.
Hate for negativity to enter the room.
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2015 17:56:14 GMT -5
I know I've brought up Hartnell's name before. Scott's got 4 more years at a hit of $4.75 million per. I think I'd rather Iginla. Older, yes. A little more expensive, yes. But I'm more confident in his ability to continue to produce over the remaining life of his contract than I am Hartnell. Iggy's that RW too.
Emelin is confirmed out, tsn saying a week minimum. Other's have said 6. If it's the latter it will force Berg's hand, and raise the asking price from others.
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Post by Douper on Feb 19, 2015 18:14:34 GMT -5
Thanks Douper….but I think Hartnell's name has come up here before….so I can't take credit for that idea…just revisiting considering the Ottawa rough-housing. RE: Kessel. It's not his skill that makes me skittish…it's the alleged attitude. I'd gladly take on that contract for a Gomez who actually produces. It's not Gomez's fault that Sather offered him ridiculous money. Nor is it Kessel's fault….but Gomez has always been, reportedly, well-liked. Hate for negativity to enter the room. THe Kessel - Subban friendship and the leadership in the room might be what Phil the thrill would need. The real cancer on the team is Phaneuf, he was in Calgary and the same in TO. The thought of having a Kessel Patches duo on the first line would have me frothing at the mouth. |
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at this point (higher ceiling, but as of yet lower chance of meeting it because he's not playing pro). The Flyers, as we know, have been dying for a true #1 for more than 20 years. I've been reluctant to move Fucale because of how thin our prospect depth in net is, but the could replace Fucale with a second round pick this year. Blackwood, with the Barrie Colts, projects to be the #1 ranked goalie. Perhaps the Canadiens trade their late first for one of the top two picks in the second round ... get more picks in process.
