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Post by GNick99 on Mar 1, 2015 17:13:03 GMT -5
I can hear the crickets starting for TSN's Tradecentre tomorrow! As if it wasn't going to be 10 hours of Leafs talk before....it's a 100% certainty now! As long as I haven't got to listen to them crow about the Clarkson trade I can stand it |
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Post by Disp on Mar 1, 2015 17:22:51 GMT -5
Reading about Moore, I guess one of the knocks is that he wasn't dependable enough defensively. Hmmmm, they should love Yandle then  . He's a good player, but a defensive juggernaut he is not. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 1, 2015 17:38:59 GMT -5
Just #1 center...Pleks good #2, DLR, Eller and Malholta. But DD as #1 center in playoffs does give me the willies, he is easily shutdown That's my point. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 1, 2015 17:40:57 GMT -5
I can hear the crickets starting for TSN's Tradecentre tomorrow! As if it wasn't going to be 10 hours of Leafs talk before....it's a 100% certainty now! As long as I haven't got to listen to them crow about the Clarkson trade I can stand it Right. From what I've heard--even on HF Toronto boards--is that the Clarkson deal fell in Nonis's lap. He did nothing to figure it out….all Columbus. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 1, 2015 17:48:35 GMT -5
As long as I haven't got to listen to them crow about the Clarkson trade I can stand it Right. From what I've heard--even on HF Toronto boards--is that the Clarkson deal fell in Nonis's lap. He did nothing to figure it out….all Columbus. Shhhhh. Don't tell Shanahan. It was all Nonis. Yep, definitely Nonis. |
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 18:42:11 GMT -5
As long as I haven't got to listen to them crow about the Clarkson trade I can stand it Right. From what I've heard--even on HF Toronto boards--is that the Clarkson deal fell in Nonis's lap. He did nothing to figure it out….all Columbus. Yeah I mentioned it elsewhere. TSN reported that Jarmo went to Nonis with the deal. There was nothing shrewd about it on the Leafs' behalf. Now, in order to be able to claim Horton's salary each year, the Leafs have to spend to the upper limit. That means, while they're in rebuild mode they also have to full the roster enough to spend to the upper limit. That makes it really hard to move Phaneuf and Kessel. Really hard. The Jackets are a budget conscious team. They at least have a warm body in the deal. Clarkson will never live up to the salary, but maybe he rebounds enough in a small market that he becomes a 20/20 man again. If he can manage that, the Jackets do well. If not, they could conceivably buy him out. |
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 19:01:39 GMT -5
TSN reporting Rangers have sent Stempniak to Jets for Klingberg.
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 19:40:25 GMT -5
Erik Cole off to Detroit with a third round this year. To Dallas goes Mattias Backman and Mattas Janmark and a second.
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 19:42:06 GMT -5
Rangers very busy today ... acquired Sheppard from Sharks.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 1, 2015 19:47:47 GMT -5
Rangers very busy today ... acquired Sheppard from Sharks. I was hoping we could get Sheppard. No need with DSP, I guess. Talk is now that the Bruins missed out on both Sheppard and Cole. Will they now go after Stewart? There are not that many cherries left on the tree for Bergevin to get that second liner we need. |
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Post by Disp on Mar 1, 2015 19:49:43 GMT -5
Right. From what I've heard--even on HF Toronto boards--is that the Clarkson deal fell in Nonis's lap. He did nothing to figure it out….all Columbus. Yeah I mentioned it elsewhere. TSN reported that Jarmo went to Nonis with the deal. There was nothing shrewd about it on the Leafs' behalf. Now, in order to be able to claim Horton's salary each year, the Leafs have to spend to the upper limit. That means, while they're in rebuild mode they also have to full the roster enough to spend to the upper limit. That makes it really hard to move Phaneuf and Kessel. Really hard. The Jackets are a budget conscious team. They at least have a warm body in the deal. Clarkson will never live up to the salary, but maybe he rebounds enough in a small market that he becomes a 20/20 man again. If he can manage that, the Jackets do well. If not, they could conceivably buy him out. The leafs can still dump Kessel and Phaneuf if they want. They don't have to use the relief if they don't have to, it just gives them flexibility if they do. It's basically an accounting trick. They could get rid of both and sign or trade for some different big ticket guys. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 1, 2015 20:01:56 GMT -5
All the Ryan O'Reilly talk has certainly died down .... I don't see him on any of the "will be traded" boards.
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 20:16:49 GMT -5
Rangers very busy today ... acquired Sheppard from Sharks. I was hoping we could get Sheppard. No need with DSP, I guess. Talk is now that the Bruins missed out on both Sheppard and Cole. Will they now go after Stewart? There are not that many cherries left on the tree for Bergevin to get that second liner we need. I don't see Sheppard as a significant upgrade on anything we have. I do find it interesting that the Sharks are parting with the types of players you do need though. I wonder if bigger names are floating about. |
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 20:18:39 GMT -5
Yeah I mentioned it elsewhere. TSN reported that Jarmo went to Nonis with the deal. There was nothing shrewd about it on the Leafs' behalf. Now, in order to be able to claim Horton's salary each year, the Leafs have to spend to the upper limit. That means, while they're in rebuild mode they also have to full the roster enough to spend to the upper limit. That makes it really hard to move Phaneuf and Kessel. Really hard. The Jackets are a budget conscious team. They at least have a warm body in the deal. Clarkson will never live up to the salary, but maybe he rebounds enough in a small market that he becomes a 20/20 man again. If he can manage that, the Jackets do well. If not, they could conceivably buy him out. The leafs can still dump Kessel and Phaneuf if they want. They don't have to use the relief if they don't have to, it just gives them flexibility if they do. It's basically an accounting trick. They could get rid of both and sign or trade for some different big ticket guys. They could do that, but the whole point of the trade from their perspective was that they could get the ltir relief. There really wasn't much point to the trade if they do dump Kessel and Phaneuf. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 1, 2015 20:22:17 GMT -5
If Berg does something, it will not involve an upcoming UFA, but will be a true hockey deal. That means he may be going after anyone, except a rental. That's the right way to do it. If a trade doesn't happen, so be it, but I really can't see where any teams that have picked up a rental have improved themselves to any meaningful degree.
The Hawks aren't better than they were before Kane got injured. The Rangers 'may' be better if Yandle doesn't cause them defensive woes. Others have improved their depth marginally (Stempniak, Glencross), but if you're counting on those guys to put you over the top...then I have the usual Florida real estate for them. Winnipeg improved the most in the trade department and that was a real hockey trade, not a contract trade or rental trade.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 1, 2015 20:22:55 GMT -5
All the Ryan O'Reilly talk has certainly died down .... I don't see him on any of the "will be traded" boards. Which means he'll probably be a Hab by noon PST tomorrow.  |
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Post by Disp on Mar 1, 2015 20:55:03 GMT -5
The leafs can still dump Kessel and Phaneuf if they want. They don't have to use the relief if they don't have to, it just gives them flexibility if they do. It's basically an accounting trick. They could get rid of both and sign or trade for some different big ticket guys. They could do that, but the whole point of the trade from their perspective was that they could get the ltir relief. There really wasn't much point to the trade if they do dump Kessel and Phaneuf. The point is to dump a bad contract and gain cap flexibility. They want to change their team, start fresh. Like I said, sign or trade for some other big ticket guys. When have the leafs ever been patient? They will still have the option to spend to the cap without Phaneuf and Kessel. They could essentially use the space gained to retain some salary on these guys. |
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 21:10:48 GMT -5
Sheppard went to Rags for their 4th rounder next year.
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Post by Douper on Mar 1, 2015 21:12:32 GMT -5
None of the parts moved today really would make us better. I think MB will suprise us tomorrow. For once I get the feeling our GM will suprise us in a good way.
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 21:14:32 GMT -5
Put this here: Rangers sign Zuccarello to extension. His name had been in the rumour mills. 4 years $18 million.
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Post by blny on Mar 1, 2015 21:16:29 GMT -5
None of the parts moved today really would make us better. I think MB will suprise us tomorrow. For once I get the feeling our GM will suprise us in a good way. Just once? lol I think there have been good surprises. Weise. The Vanek deal was a good one. Getting rid of Bourque out of nowhere. He's not batting 1.000, but he's fared well I think. |
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 2, 2015 3:08:56 GMT -5
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
BREAKING: Braydon Coburn to #TBLightning for 1st-round pick, 3rd-round pick and Radko Gudas.
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
The #bruins have acquired Brett Connolly from #TBLightning for two second-round picks. #NHLTrade
Everybody in east must be going for it this year. Crazy return on Coburn. Better than Yandle fetched who would thought? Maybe Leafs can get good return on Phaneuf...if they eat some of his salary
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Post by franko on Mar 2, 2015 6:58:55 GMT -5
Chris Johnston @reporterchris BREAKING: Braydon Coburn to #TBLightning for 1st-round pick, 3rd-round pick and Radko Gudas. sheesh! sheesh again! Bruins Chiarelli desperate to make the playoffs but someone should tell him that he needs just a little bit more. let's hope he finds a willing partner out west to send him little more than faint hope, for solid future picks. |
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Post by Douper on Mar 2, 2015 7:07:33 GMT -5
Wow, the prices are rediculous! Coburn for a 1st and a 3rd .... Connolly for 2 2nds!!!
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Post by Douper on Mar 2, 2015 7:12:09 GMT -5
I think the closer we get to the deadline the lower the price will be. Don't know about you guys but so far we've added DSP and of all the players moved so far he isn't the worst.
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Post by jkr on Mar 2, 2015 7:37:05 GMT -5
Wow, the prices are rediculous! Coburn for a 1st and a 3rd .... Connolly for 2 2nds!!! re: Coburn - also put Gudas in there along with the 1st & 3rd. That's way too high. Good job by Hextall. |
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Post by Douper on Mar 2, 2015 7:48:24 GMT -5
Wow, the prices are rediculous! Coburn for a 1st and a 3rd .... Connolly for 2 2nds!!! re: Coburn - also put Gudas in there along with the 1st & 3rd. That's way too high. Good job by Hextall. pylon for pylon + picks... |
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Post by Disp on Mar 2, 2015 7:50:15 GMT -5
That Coburn deal is really nuts. If Gudas was playing and the Flyers offered Coburn straight up Tampa probably says no. At the deadline and with Gudas out they add a first and third. Crazy. Desperate move.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 2, 2015 10:08:51 GMT -5
Wow, the prices are rediculous! Coburn for a 1st and a 3rd .... Connolly for 2 2nds!!! I`m glad we have Bergevin ... Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Mar 2, 2015 10:25:44 GMT -5
Considering what Berg paid for Petry, Tampa over paid by a large amount for Coburn.
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. He's a good player, but a defensive juggernaut he is not.
