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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 17, 2015 13:12:59 GMT -5
Just going to cut and paste what pertains to the Habs (from MSN) ... to access info on the Leafs or Rangers, click on this link here ...
CANADIENS LIKELY TO SHED SALARY
On Monday, the Montreal Canadiens re-signed center Torrey Mitchell to a three-year contract extension worth an average annual cap hit of $1.2 million. Over the weekend, they also re-upped defenseman Nathan Beaulieu to a two-year deal with a $1- million average annual salary.
Those signings pushed the Canadiens cap payroll in 2015-16 to over $66.4 million . That increases the likelihood GM Marc Bergevin could shed salary via trade in the coming weeks.
Bergevin still has yet to re-sign RFA forwards Alex Galchenyuk and Brian Flynn . With the cap projected to rise to $71 million, that won’t leave much room to re-sign those two while still leaving space for other additions as required.
Sportsnet’s Eric Engels notes the Habs have over $28 million invested in defensemen, suggesting one of them could be moved. Engels cites Tom Gilbert (one year left on his contract at a cap hit of $2.8 million) or Alexei Emelin (three years remaining, $4.1-million annual cap hit) as possible trade candidates. Forward options could include Tomas Plekanec (one year left, $5 million), David Desharnais (two years, $3.5 million annually) or Lars Eller (three years, $3.5 million per).
Plekanec and Emelin could fetch the best returns, but both are carrying no-trade clauses. They could be asked to waive them, but finding suitable trade destinations could be difficult. Eller might also interest from GMs willing to gamble that a change of scenery might do him good.
Non-Habs Related
The Senators are also looking to move a goalie ... the asking price set by GM, Bryan Murray, will be a top-six forward and a draft pick for either for Robin Lehner or Craig Anderson ... according to Pierre Lebrun, Patrick Sharp could be of interest to Washington ... Bob McKenzie also speculates that Ryan O'Reilly could also be on the block ... TSN refers ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2015 14:20:04 GMT -5
Lebrun also mentioned on Leafs lunch that the Panthers may have interest in Sharp. Tallon acqured Sharp while he was in Chicago.
Lots of buzz around NCAA prospect Mike Reilly. He's had as many as 8 teams schmooze him. Montreal is on that list. He's expected to narrow the list this week. Gotta say this whole 'schmooze-fest' that has become popular with FA college kids rubs me the wrong way. Wine, dine, etc. At some point it becomes who takes me to the most expensive restaurant, not who has the best program.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 17, 2015 14:23:16 GMT -5
Lebrun also mentioned on Leafs lunch that the Panthers may have interest in Sharp. Tallon acqured Sharp while he was in Chicago. Lots of buzz around NCAA prospect Mike Reilly. He's had as many as 8 teams schmooze him. Montreal is on that list. He's expected to narrow the list this week. Gotta say this whole 'schmooze-fest' that has become popular with FA college kids rubs me the wrong way. Wine, dine, etc. At some point it becomes who takes me to the most expensive restaurant, not who has the best program. Have the kid come to Montreal for a weekend....he'll never leave!! |
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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2015 14:27:22 GMT -5
Lebrun also mentioned on Leafs lunch that the Panthers may have interest in Sharp. Tallon acqured Sharp while he was in Chicago. Lots of buzz around NCAA prospect Mike Reilly. He's had as many as 8 teams schmooze him. Montreal is on that list. He's expected to narrow the list this week. Gotta say this whole 'schmooze-fest' that has become popular with FA college kids rubs me the wrong way. Wine, dine, etc. At some point it becomes who takes me to the most expensive restaurant, not who has the best program. Have the kid come to Montreal for a weekend....he'll never leave!! Hotel California ... lol |
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Post by franko on Jun 17, 2015 14:55:24 GMT -5
CANADIENS LIKELY TO SHED SALARY MSN Sports . . . the new  they must mine from here . . . |
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Post by frozone on Jun 17, 2015 16:29:56 GMT -5
Lebrun also mentioned on Leafs lunch that the Panthers may have interest in Sharp. Tallon acqured Sharp while he was in Chicago. Lots of buzz around NCAA prospect Mike Reilly. He's had as many as 8 teams schmooze him. Montreal is on that list. He's expected to narrow the list this week. Gotta say this whole 'schmooze-fest' that has become popular with FA college kids rubs me the wrong way. Wine, dine, etc. At some point it becomes who takes me to the most expensive restaurant, not who has the best program. I read on his wikipedia page that his dad was drafted by the Habs but never played a game in the NHL... I don't know if that is more likely to work for us or against us. |
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Post by blny on Jun 17, 2015 17:11:52 GMT -5
Lebrun also mentioned on Leafs lunch that the Panthers may have interest in Sharp. Tallon acqured Sharp while he was in Chicago. Lots of buzz around NCAA prospect Mike Reilly. He's had as many as 8 teams schmooze him. Montreal is on that list. He's expected to narrow the list this week. Gotta say this whole 'schmooze-fest' that has become popular with FA college kids rubs me the wrong way. Wine, dine, etc. At some point it becomes who takes me to the most expensive restaurant, not who has the best program. I read on his wikipedia page that his dad was drafted by the Habs but never played a game in the NHL... I don't know if that is more likely to work for us or against us. I suspect one of the biggest factors of where he signs will be whether he's guaranteed a roster spot or not. Very unlikely he'd crack the Canadiens top 6 at the moment. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 17, 2015 21:48:57 GMT -5
LA and CHI are being talked about as front runners. He is supposedly down to two or three teams.
These guys get cap friendly entry level deals, so why not chase?
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Post by blny on Jun 19, 2015 7:54:13 GMT -5
Lebrun reporting that multiple GMs have told him the Blues are actively shopping Backes, Berglund and Oshie. The intent isn't to move all three, but to gauge interest and move likely one for the best return.
Multiple sources saying that whichever goalie leaves the Sens - Anderson or Lehner, there will be a tax. Acquiring team will have to take Legwand or Greening. Good luck with that one Bryan.
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Post by blny on Jun 19, 2015 16:13:35 GMT -5
Midwest beat writer Brian Hedger, followed by Lebrun and McKenzie, claiming that Sharp WILL be traded next week. Before draft maybe. McKenzie had reported that the Hawks were looking for a first this year.
One of the rumoured teams interested has been the Panthers, because of connection to Dale Tallon, but I can't see them giving up the 11th overall pick. Would Tim Murray trade the 21st pick he got in trade to add the veteran scorer to his young squad in Buffalo? Would Arizona trade the first they got for Vermette back to the Hawks for a year of Sharp?
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Post by seventeen on Jun 19, 2015 18:08:12 GMT -5
I simply can't believe what the Hawks want for Sharp. Surely, Bowman had too large a helping of stuffed magic mushroom caps last night? A first rounder, a Grade A prospect and a top 6 forward on an entry level contract. That's what, reportedly, he's asking for Sharp. Sure, and I'd like your next 5 years of first rounders for Desharnais.
I saw a good answer to that on Twitter. First, I submit a $6MM offer sheet on Brandon Saad, forcing Bowman to match, and then I trade a 7th round choice for Sharp. That's about right. Bowman's under the gun to fix his CAP problem so why would anyone take on Bowmans CAP headache and pay him handsomely for it?
I know, let's put Stan Bowman and Bryan Murray in the same locked room together and see who comes out? Both are delusional.
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Post by franko on Jun 19, 2015 21:08:17 GMT -5
I simply can't believe what the Hawks want for Sharp. Surely, Bowman had too large a helping of stuffed magic mushroom caps last night? A first rounder, a Grade A prospect and a top 6 forward on an entry level contract. That's what, reportedly, he's asking for Sharp. Sure, and I'd like your next 5 years of first rounders for Desharnais. ah, but 17, you don't get if you don't ask. I mean, whoda thought they'd see Scott Gomez and his contract, Tom Pyatt and Mike Busto come to Montreal for Chris Higgins, Ryan McDonagh, Pavel Valentenko and the rights to Doug Janik? Sure Gainey and Mad Mike aren't in the GM chair any more, but you never know . . . btw, I want the TD Bank to pay off my mortgage and leave me alone. |
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Post by blny on Jun 19, 2015 21:31:15 GMT -5
What I inferred from McKenzie was that they were solely looking for the first round pick, and not three pieces.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 19, 2015 22:06:04 GMT -5
Third round pick maximum. And a "You're welcome" card for solving a CAP headache.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 19, 2015 22:09:58 GMT -5
I simply can't believe what the Hawks want for Sharp. Surely, Bowman had too large a helping of stuffed magic mushroom caps last night? A first rounder, a Grade A prospect and a top 6 forward on an entry level contract. That's what, reportedly, he's asking for Sharp. Sure, and I'd like your next 5 years of first rounders for Desharnais. ah, but 17, you don't get if you don't ask. I mean, whoda thought they'd see Scott Gomez and his contract, Tom Pyatt and Mike Busto come to Montreal for Chris Higgins, Ryan McDonagh, Pavel Valentenko and the rights to Doug Janik? Sure Gainey and Mad Mike aren't in the GM chair any more, but you never know . . . btw, I want the TD Bank to pay off my mortgage and leave me alone. I understand starting high. All auctioneers do it and waste our time in the process. But keep it believably high. A first rounder is a good start. I counter with a 6th rounder and we compromise on 3. BTW I can't help with the mortgage. I'm retired now.  |
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Post by blny on Jun 20, 2015 21:22:49 GMT -5
Rumour floating around that Isles may be shopping Okposo. Apparently has high contract demands. He's got a year left at $2.8 million. That's under value given his 120pts in his last 130 games. How many of those are the result of playing with Tavares though?
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Post by seventeen on Jun 21, 2015 1:13:07 GMT -5
Probably a fair amount. I think he's a decent player in his own right, but it never hurts to play with an all-star. How many dmen has Markov made? How many scorers have the Sedins made? Blair McDonald had 46 goals playing with Wayne Gretzky and no one thinks of him as a top scorer. It's risky picking a guy who gets a lot of points with stars. Parenteau is another example.
I think Okposo is much better than Parenteau, but the rule still applies....caveat emptor.
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Post by jkr on Jun 21, 2015 6:42:44 GMT -5
This is unrelated to the rumor report but I wondered where Eric Engels had gone. I liked reading him on Hockeybuzz.com. Guess he escaped Eklund's orbit. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 21, 2015 8:44:22 GMT -5
I simply can't believe what the Hawks want for Sharp. Surely, Bowman had too large a helping of stuffed magic mushroom caps last night? A first rounder, a Grade A prospect and a top 6 forward on an entry level contract. That's what, reportedly, he's asking for Sharp. Sure, and I'd like your next 5 years of first rounders for Desharnais. I saw a good answer to that on Twitter. First, I submit a $6MM offer sheet on Brandon Saad, forcing Bowman to match, and then I trade a 7th round choice for Sharp. That's about right. Bowman's under the gun to fix his CAP problem so why would anyone take on Bowmans CAP headache and pay him handsomely for it? I know, let's put Stan Bowman and Bryan Murray in the same locked room together and see who comes out? Both are delusional. Do you mean Montreal? What if Bowman says "sure, take Brandon, I'll take all your first rounders, and you just gave me cap space to boot ... And oh, btw, you guys only have 4 million cap space, so you might as well send over Lars Eller , and I'll give you guys a seventh round pick". I really think the NHL should institute a rule that you can't make an offer sheet unless you have the cap space available at the time. |
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Post by Disp on Jun 21, 2015 10:58:21 GMT -5
All it takes is for two teams to want Sharp. Then the fact that he needs to dump him doesn't really matter. They'll bid each other up essentially.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 21, 2015 12:28:21 GMT -5
I simply can't believe what the Hawks want for Sharp. Surely, Bowman had too large a helping of stuffed magic mushroom caps last night? A first rounder, a Grade A prospect and a top 6 forward on an entry level contract. That's what, reportedly, he's asking for Sharp. Sure, and I'd like your next 5 years of first rounders for Desharnais. I saw a good answer to that on Twitter. First, I submit a $6MM offer sheet on Brandon Saad, forcing Bowman to match, and then I trade a 7th round choice for Sharp. That's about right. Bowman's under the gun to fix his CAP problem so why would anyone take on Bowmans CAP headache and pay him handsomely for it? I know, let's put Stan Bowman and Bryan Murray in the same locked room together and see who comes out? Both are delusional. Do you mean Montreal? What if Bowman says "sure, take Brandon, I'll take all your first rounders, and you just gave me cap space to boot ... And oh, btw, you guys only have 4 million cap space, so you might as well send over Lars Eller , and I'll give you guys a seventh round pick". I really think the NHL should institute a rule that you can't make an offer sheet unless you have the cap space available at the time. No, I didn't mean the Habs. But if Berg did do it, I'd make the offer the size that gives up a first and third...I think that's around $5 or $5.5 mil. Not a huge price, but a big enough CAP hit to Chicago to make life very uncomfortable. Naturally, someone else might then offer a 6th rounder for Sharp, but not my problem, it's Bowman's. And yes, I'd then have a CAP issue, but not one that isn't solveable. I'd just make sure to make my distasteful trades with someone other than Chicago. That way they don't benefit. If I have to give away Parenteau for a 7th rounder...fine. Basically I've traded Parenteau for Saad and an extra million cap hit. Chicago would match, I'd imagine, but it would make them gut some pieces without improving the team at all. I also don't think anyone will offer sheet Saad. I suspect it's an unwritten rule, because if you do it, someone else will reciprocate and no one wins except the players (which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing, but it doesn't do anything for the GM's). The above strategy is possible and even attractive because the consequences aren't high enough. A first and 3rd rounder for a guy at that salary level is cheap. Two first rounders might make someone pause and a higher cost would probably prevent it entirely. |
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Post by blny on Jun 21, 2015 13:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Jun 22, 2015 13:15:18 GMT -5
Do you mean Montreal? What if Bowman says "sure, take Brandon, I'll take all your first rounders, and you just gave me cap space to boot ... And oh, btw, you guys only have 4 million cap space, so you might as well send over Lars Eller , and I'll give you guys a seventh round pick". I really think the NHL should institute a rule that you can't make an offer sheet unless you have the cap space available at the time. No, I didn't mean the Habs. But if Berg did do it, I'd make the offer the size that gives up a first and third...I think that's around $5 or $5.5 mil. Not a huge price, but a big enough CAP hit to Chicago to make life very uncomfortable. Naturally, someone else might then offer a 6th rounder for Sharp, but not my problem, it's Bowman's. And yes, I'd then have a CAP issue, but not one that isn't solveable. I'd just make sure to make my distasteful trades with someone other than Chicago. That way they don't benefit. If I have to give away Parenteau for a 7th rounder...fine. Basically I've traded Parenteau for Saad and an extra million cap hit. Chicago would match, I'd imagine, but it would make them gut some pieces without improving the team at all. I also don't think anyone will offer sheet Saad. I suspect it's an unwritten rule, because if you do it, someone else will reciprocate and no one wins except the players (which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing, but it doesn't do anything for the GM's). The above strategy is possible and even attractive because the consequences aren't high enough. A first and 3rd rounder for a guy at that salary level is cheap. Two first rounders might make someone pause and a higher cost would probably prevent it entirely. 5 million is a first and a third 5.5 million would be a first, second and a third. And you have to have YOUR original picks available in the next seasons draft |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 22, 2015 14:41:10 GMT -5
From a pure cost perspective, Saad might be worth a first and a third, especially if you're a higher tier team where your first is in the 20-30 choice range. I'd think Saad might like $5MM at this stage in his career.
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Post by blny on Jun 22, 2015 20:36:07 GMT -5
Per Dreger, Wings are out on the Phaneuf trade. Holland decided too much money and term left to talk that player.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 22, 2015 22:08:50 GMT -5
Good. Keep the CAP pressure on the Leafs.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 22, 2015 22:30:33 GMT -5
Per Dreger, Wings are out on the Phaneuf trade. Holland decided too much money and term left to talk that player. Twitter is showing the Sharks as interested in Dion Phaneuf ... also reading on Twitter that the Habs are one of 7/8 teams asking about Patrick Sharp ... Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Jun 23, 2015 5:51:27 GMT -5
Per Dreger, Wings are out on the Phaneuf trade. Holland decided too much money and term left to talk that player. Twitter is showing the Sharks as interested in Dion Phaneuf ... also reading on Twitter that the Habs are one of 7/8 teams asking about Patrick Sharp ... Cheers. Interesting that the Sharks would be asking. Their prospect pool isn't very deep. You'd have to think they'd be looking to send one of Marleau or Thornton back for cap reasons too. My bet is lots of teams are asking about Sharp. Berg should know him as well as anyone. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 23, 2015 15:53:45 GMT -5
Some Twitter chatter:
NHL Scouting Insider @fiveholerumors 5h5 hours ago
Predators making a push for O'Reilly. Package could include Ellis and Wilson among others. Very interesting
Also, there are six teams after the No.3 overall pick ... two of them are pretty aggressive ... don't know the teams ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 23, 2015 19:58:11 GMT -5
More of the same ... it's Twitter so take with a scotch ...
NHL Rumor Update @nhlrumorupdate 6m6 minutes ago
NHL Rumor Update retweeted Chris Kuc
Stars interested in Sharp? Damn. They do need a LW. Earlier listed them as a dark horse.
NHL Rumor Update added,
Chris Kuc @chriskuc
Hearing Stars, Penguins and Panthers are teams most interested in #Blackhawks' Patrick Sharp. Asking price still too high.
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