Subban

[franko]

Oct 13, 2016 13:49:05 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

On Thursday, the fan letter, which was signed with the hashtag #mtl4subban also triggered much discussion on social media.

as Knuckles suggested, if you're that steamed be bold enough to sign your name.

[Willie Dog]

Oct 13, 2016 13:59:45 GMT -5 franko said:

Oct 13, 2016 13:49:05 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

On Thursday, the fan letter, which was signed with the hashtag #mtl4subban also triggered much discussion on social media.

as Knuckles suggested, if you're that steamed be bold enough to sign your name.

If you look at what Connor McKenna posted the letter is signed Dr. CK and Family... perhaps someone from the Children's Hospital.

[franko]

Oct 13, 2016 14:19:33 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

Oct 13, 2016 13:59:45 GMT -5 franko said:

as Knuckles suggested, if you're that steamed be bold enough to sign your name.

If you look at what Connor McKenna posted the letter is signed Dr. CK and Family... perhaps someone from the Children's Hospital.

yup, Knuckles knew that but still said "sign your name"

[blny]

Stubbs commented on this earlier today, citing "Because Montreal".

I'd argue, "because the fans and the teams best players have typically been treated like Saperlipopette since the last cup". Incompetence is one thing (see Houle and Tremblay). Bold-faced lying and a blatant distain for roster players before getting a job trump that any day.

Frank Seravalli's bold prediction is that Subban wins the Norris this year.

[franko]

Oct 13, 2016 15:13:14 GMT -5 blny said:

I'd argue, "because the fans and the teams best players have typically been treated like Saperlipopette since the last cup". Incompetence is one thing (see Houle and Tremblay). Bold-faced lying and a blatant distain for roster players before getting a job trump that any day.

for some reason people are forgetting that the players are only a commodity, used to make owners money.

no more and no less than you and me . . . except for the paycheque.

[Willie Dog]

Oct 13, 2016 16:23:03 GMT -5 franko said:

Oct 13, 2016 15:13:14 GMT -5 blny said:

I'd argue, "because the fans and the teams best players have typically been treated like Saperlipopette since the last cup". Incompetence is one thing (see Houle and Tremblay). Bold-faced lying and a blatant distain for roster players before getting a job trump that any day.

for some reason people are forgetting that the players are only a commodity, used to make owners money.

no more and no less than you and me . . . except for the paycheque.

Can't argue with that... it still sucks though and it's why I have been losing interest in watching sports in general as I've gotten older.

[blny]

Oct 13, 2016 16:23:03 GMT -5 franko said:

Oct 13, 2016 15:13:14 GMT -5 blny said:

I'd argue, "because the fans and the teams best players have typically been treated like Saperlipopette since the last cup". Incompetence is one thing (see Houle and Tremblay). Bold-faced lying and a blatant distain for roster players before getting a job trump that any day.

for some reason people are forgetting that the players are only a commodity, used to make owners money.

no more and no less than you and me . . . except for the paycheque.

You can still treat em with respect.

[CentreHice]

Oct 13, 2016 16:23:03 GMT -5 franko said:

for some reason people are forgetting that the players are only a commodity, used to make owners money.

no more and no less than you and me . . . except for the paycheque.

It's one thing to be a commodity. It's quite another to have an analyst form an opinion of a hot commodity, demonstrate that opinion as coach from Day 1, and never sway from it....despite the commodity's numbers to the contrary.

Personality Agenda.

[Willie Dog]

The person who bought the ad is Charles Kowalski an ER doctor in Ottawa

PK Ad

The bad press for the Montreal Canadiens began before their 2016-17 hockey season had even started — but the critical ink did not come from the pen of a jaded sportswriter.

Instead it came from the hand of Dr. CK, short for Dr. Charles Kowalski, a 52-year-old ER physician who lives in Ottawa and still feels so betrayed by the P.K. Subban trade for Shea Weber that he penned a letter (and paid a five-digit sum) to run as a full-page ad in Thursday’s edition of the Montreal Gazette.

The open letter was part tribute to Subban, the player and philanthropist, and part rebuke of Habs brass for trading the immensely popular defenceman.

But in an interview, Kowalski said the purpose of the letter was not to publicly bash the Habs in print, but rather to help carry the torch for Subban’s fundraising efforts at the Montreal Children’s Hospital.

So moved by Subban’s noble gesture to pledge $10 million to the hospital over a seven-year period, Kowalski said he is launching a website where Habs fans can donate directly to the hospital.


In an effort to lead by example, the doctor said he is making a hefty personal donation of $50,000 to kick-start the drive.

“The purpose of this is to ask my fellow Montreal Canadiens fans to follow my lead and donate money to the Montreal Children’s Hospital and help raise money for the cause that P.K. had started,” Kowalski said.

“After the dust settled on this trade, I found my biggest concern was how was money going to be raised for the children’s hospital,” he said. “If anybody could do it, it would be P.K. But I didn’t think it was a realistic expectation to ask him to do it while playing in Nashville.”

Kowalski can relate both as a father and a doctor on the need for better medical care for infants.

“As an emergency physician, I know the importance of medical intervention in the neonatal and infant stage. This is the time when it saves and changes lives.

“My own son (Gabriel) was born unexpectedly at 32 weeks. He was in an ICU and we almost lost him. He was inches away from being transported to Edmonton for life support. So I connect with it.”

Kowalski, a lifelong Canadiens fan who grew up in the Prairies, is calling upon all Habs fans to donate $15, about the cost of a beer at the Bell Centre, to the hospital through a newly launched website afranchiseheldintrust.com





Kowalski’s letter also said he plans to boycott all but one Canadiens home game this season: March 2, 2017, when P.K. and the Predators visit Montreal.

But the doctor insists his aim is to organize a fundraiser, not a fan protest.

“It is absolutely a fundraising project, however, it’s almost impossible to separate the two. And as I said, my comments of not supporting Michel Therrien and Marc Bergevin, I want fans to understand that this trade has changed me and I cannot yet bring myself to go the Bell Centre. I just can’t go … I’ve lost interest.

“I don’t have a personal vendetta against the Montreal Canadiens,” he added. “If the Canadiens go on to win the Stanley Cup this season, good for them.”

But Kowalski said he won’t be there. “At this point I won’t. I hope to go back someday. I just don’t know when that will be.”

The letter caught Subban off guard in Nashville.

“No. I haven’t heard about it. Shocker,” said Subban. “I don’t think there’s a day that goes by that people aren’t like: ‘Oh, I miss you or whatever. But that’s expected.”

As for the trade, Subban added: “People are going to talk about it. It will be interesting to see what happens once the season starts, if everything kind of goes away.”

Stu Cowan of the Montreal Gazette contributed to this report.

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On Thursday, the fan letter, which was signed with the hashtag #mtl4subban also triggered much discussion on social media.

[blny]

Preds home opener is tonight against the Hawks.

[Willie Dog]

Oct 14, 2016 18:03:39 GMT -5 blny said:

Preds home opener is tonight against the Hawks.

I'll be watching it.

[Willie Dog]

PK scores 1st shot on the PP

[seventeen]

1-1 tie with the Hawks 8 minutes in. Subban not on for the goal against and has scored the PP goal to tie, from the middle- blue line.

[drkcloud]

It's a Subban love in on NBCSN. Such a dynamic exciting player. Nashville lucky to get him. Remember when the Habs had players who could go coast to coast

[Willie Dog]

The interesting thing is PK is not out to start every PP... laviolette seems to be easing him in... Josi seems to start each PP though... looking forward to see what PK and josi can do after getting comfortable with each other

[Willie Dog]

Oct 14, 2016 19:48:15 GMT -5 drkcloud said:

It's a Subban love in on NBCSN. Such a dynamic exciting player. Nashville lucky to get him. Remember when the Habs had players who could go coast to coast

Where is the MB/MTHead love?

[seventeen]

2-2 after 1 period. Subban on for the Hawks 2nd goal. Had Toews tied up in front but couldn't keep him from screening Niemi and HJalmarsson put in a screen shot. Nashville tied it on a PP goal late in the 1st, Josi from Johansen and Fisher.

[Deleted]

Oct 14, 2016 19:52:20 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

The interesting thing is PK is not out to start every PP... laviolette seems to be easing him in... Josi seems to start each PP though... looking forward to see what PK and josi can do after getting comfortable with each other

Because he saw how he did with two minutes on the Habs pp the last two seasons?

[Willie Dog]

Oct 15, 2016 17:37:28 GMT -5 @anonymoushabsfan said:

Oct 14, 2016 19:52:20 GMT -5 Willie Dog said:

The interesting thing is PK is not out to start every PP... laviolette seems to be easing him in... Josi seems to start each PP though... looking forward to see what PK and josi can do after getting comfortable with each other

Because he saw how he did with two minutes on the Habs pp the last two seasons?

That's the difference between Laviolette and MTHead... Laviolette knows how to run a PP.

[seventeen]

PK is on the 2nd PP unit. Josi and 4 forwards on the first, PK and Ellis on the points on the 2nd. Makes sense. Josi is excellent offensively. Laviolette using his players appropriately. Having trouble getting accustomed to that.

[Gogie]

OK, let's start the comparisons.

After 3 games:

	G	A	Pts	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	0	2	2	4	0	0	+3	27:13	10	3	0	6
Subban	1	1	2	6	1	2	-2	24:42	5	9	0	5

Legend:
G - Goals
A - Assists
Pts - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

[Disgruntled70sHab]

I'm hoping Subban eventually kicks it in sometime this season ... I took him in one of my pools ...

Cheers.

[Tankdriver]

Oct 20, 2016 10:15:09 GMT -5 Gogie said:

OK, let's start the comparisons.

After 3 games:

	G	A	Pts	PIM	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	0	2	2	4	+3	27:13	10	3	0	6
Subban	1	1	2	6	-2	24:42	5	9	0	5

Wow, was thinking Weber would have more blocked shots.

[franko]

Oct 20, 2016 11:56:11 GMT -5 Tankdriver said:

Oct 20, 2016 10:15:09 GMT -5 Gogie said:

OK, let's start the comparisons.

After 3 games:

	G	A	Pts	PIM	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	0	2	2	4	+3	27:13	10	3	0	6
Subban	1	1	2	6	-2	24:42	5	9	0	5

Wow, was thinking Weber would have more blocked shots.

I was wondering about PP points myself . . . I'm mean, if we're going to compare . . .

[Gogie]

Oct 20, 2016 15:27:01 GMT -5 franko said:

Oct 20, 2016 11:56:11 GMT -5 Tankdriver said:

Wow, was thinking Weber would have more blocked shots.

I was wondering about PP points myself . . . I'm mean, if we're going to compare . . .

Ask and ye shall receive:

After 3 games:

	G	A	Pts	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	0	2	2	4	0	0	+3	27:13	10	3	0	6
Subban	1	1	2	6	1	2	-2	24:42	5	9	0	5

Legend:
G - Goals
A - Assists
Pts - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

[Gogie]

I'll update this once in awhile, at least until PK starts to dominate the stats, and then I'll probably lose interest.  

	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM	PPG	PPP	+/-	ATOI	HIT	BLK	TK	GV
Weber	4	1	3	4	4	1	1	+6	26:47	13	7	1	8
Subban	4	2	1	3	8	2	3	-4	25:13	6	11	2	5

Legend:
GP - Games Played
G - Goals
A - Assists
Pts - Points
PIM - Penalties in Minutes
ATOI - Average Time on Ice
PPG - Power Play Goals
PPP - Power Play Points
HIT - Hits
BLK - Blocked Shots
TK - Take-aways
GV - Give-aways

UPDATED THROUGH GAMES OF OCTOBER 21

[jkr]

During the trade debate someone made the contention that goals were more important than total points. So I guess Subban is ahead at this time.

[The Habitual Fan]

Oct 22, 2016 8:19:27 GMT -5 jkr said:

During the trade debate someone made the contention that goals were more important than total points. So I guess Subban is ahead at this time.

I will take the +6 over the -4 any day of the week and I'm sure Price will face a lot less abuse and traffic this season which doesn't show up in the stats.

[jkr]

Oct 22, 2016 13:05:46 GMT -5 The Habitual Fan said:

Oct 22, 2016 8:19:27 GMT -5 jkr said:

During the trade debate someone made the contention that goals were more important than total points. So I guess Subban is ahead at this time.

I will take the +6 over the -4 any day of the week and I'm sure Price will face a lot less abuse and traffic this season which doesn't show up in the stats.

Was just having a little fun.

We probably should look at the deal every 20 games or so but as Habs fans we"ll probably be checking every 20 minutes

[The Habitual Fan]

Oct 22, 2016 16:37:03 GMT -5 jkr said:

Oct 22, 2016 13:05:46 GMT -5 The Habitual Fan said:

I will take the +6 over the -4 any day of the week and I'm sure Price will face a lot less abuse and traffic this season which doesn't show up in the stats.

Was just having a little fun.

We probably should look at the deal every 20 games or so but as Habs fans we"ll probably be checking every 20 minutes

I knew it was tongue in cheek and the last thing I want to do is dredge up the debate.😫