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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 19:07:08 GMT -5
Bullet dodged.
Sweet lord the price they paid for him.
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 19:26:18 GMT -5
First is for Hanzal, 2nd and conditional pick in '18 are for Whitey I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:35:14 GMT -5
"The Tampa Bay Lightning have traded goaltender Ben Bishop and a fifth round pick in the 2017 draft to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for goaltender Peter Budaj, defenceman Erik Cernak, a 7th round pick in the 2017 NHL draft and a conditional pick in the same draft." www.tsn.ca/lightning-deal-g-bishop-to-kings-1.681667 |
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 19:37:59 GMT -5
"The Tampa Bay Lightning have traded goaltender Ben Bishop and a fifth round pick in the 2017 draft to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for goaltender Peter Budaj, defenceman Erik Cernak, a 7th round pick in the 2017 NHL draft and a conditional pick in the same draft." www.tsn.ca/lightning-deal-g-bishop-to-kings-1.681667Page 2  Final word on Hanzal, which took Friedman, Mac, and Custance to work out. |
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 19:50:54 GMT -5
Complicated deal.
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Post by PTH on Feb 26, 2017 20:02:07 GMT -5
Bullet dodged. Sweet lord the price they paid for him. Yup. It's scary high. And while I miss White's spunk, we all know he isn't that great a player, so it's not like Minny got 2 contributors for a playoff run, they got Hanzal and a warm body. |
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 20:22:45 GMT -5
Bullet dodged. Sweet lord the price they paid for him. Yup. It's scary high. And while I miss White's spunk, we all know he isn't that great a player, so it's not like Minny got 2 contributors for a playoff run, they got Hanzal and a warm body. Hanzal isn't much more than one for me. Oft injured, not physical for size, lacking in discernible skill in any area, etc. Whitey can take face offs, but he's a severe loose cannon. |
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 20:39:54 GMT -5
Looks like Wild are kicking tires on Evander Kane. In a string of tweets on the topic, it would appear either Bergevin reached out, or Murray did.
No way I do that, even with 21 goals in 49 games.
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Post by jkr on Feb 26, 2017 20:56:03 GMT -5
Looks like Wild are kicking tires on Evander Kane. In a string of tweets on the topic, it would appear either Bergevin reached out, or Murray did. No way I do that, even with 21 goals in 49 games. And only a year left on his deal (6 million). His personal life has been a mess the last few years. What happened to that character Bergevin talks about? |
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Feb 26, 2017 21:49:13 GMT -5
Knowing how MB works any trades would be something unexpected. If they could get Simmons from the Flyers but not at the cost of Sergachev, although that would be every teams starting point when asked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 21:51:08 GMT -5
Looks like Wild are kicking tires on Evander Kane. In a string of tweets on the topic, it would appear either Bergevin reached out, or Murray did. No way I do that, even with 21 goals in 49 games. Kane can be a very good player and I think he would do well here, but trading Sergachev could mean another Gomez for McDonagh situation... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 26, 2017 21:55:10 GMT -5
I'm just glad all of the geniuses on TSN and sportsnet can stop talking about the Habs and hanzal
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 21:56:45 GMT -5
I'm just glad all of the geniuses on TSN and sportsnet can stop talking about the Habs and hanzal Agreed. Sens were in on him as well. |
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 22:07:26 GMT -5
Looks like Wild are kicking tires on Evander Kane. In a string of tweets on the topic, it would appear either Bergevin reached out, or Murray did. No way I do that, even with 21 goals in 49 games. And only a year left on his deal (6 million). His personal life has been a mess the last few years. What happened to that character Bergevin talks about? That's why I wondered if it was Tim Murray that initiated conversations, and not Bergevin. I'd love to add someone with Kane's size, speed, and abililty. However, his off ice issues and Montreal's night life combine to provide a potential for a huge disaster. Habitual mentions Simmonds, and he would be Kane without the baggage. Seasons of 29, 28, 32 and 25 goals and counting combined with his all around game would be a huge addition. The problem is that every team is countering with Sergachev. The moment it came out that the Avs wanted him, he's now on the wish list for anyone Montreal calls. It starts with him. The Flyers do have a number of quality prospects on defense, so you might be able to pry him away with something different. Unfortunately, teams in that situation automatically shift to Galchenyuk. Maybe, maybe, you could go with Juulsen as basis. The Flyers likely two best d prospects are Morin and Sanheim. They're both lhd, and 21 or younger. Myers is likely their best rhd prospect, and played with Juulsen at the wjc. I think Juulsen's a better player. The Flyers have Hart and Stolarz in the system for goalies. So, Lindgren and Hawkey aren't likely to interest them. |
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Post by folatre on Feb 26, 2017 22:11:20 GMT -5
It sounds like if Kings miss playoffs, the conditional pick is nothing. In event Bishop contributes to deep playoff run then conditional pick a second.
Goalie market is always pretty soft unless major injury hits a contender at precisely right time. Therefore, while it may seem as though on the surface Tampa received quite modest return for a guy who has been one of top 6-8 goalies over last 4-5 seasons, the deal was really done when Yzerman elected to invest in the younger guy and thus by default accepted Bishops departure for whatever the market would yield.
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 22:23:06 GMT -5
It sounds like if Kings miss playoffs, the conditional pick is nothing. In event Bishop contributes to deep playoff run then conditional pick a second. Goalie market is always pretty soft unless major injury hits a contender at precisely right time. Therefore, while it may seem as though on the surface Tampa received quite modest return for a guy who has been one of top 6-8 goalies over last 4-5 seasons, the deal was really done when Yzerman elected to invest in the younger guy and thus by default accepted Bishops departure for whatever the market would yield. I know absolutely nothing about the prospects going to the Bolts. What I do know is two things. 1) Budaj is the reason the Kings are within reach of the playoffs. He's worked incredibly hard with goalie coach Bill Ranford and produced a gem of a season. IMO, he's gotta be considered for the Masterton. 2) The Kings clearly don't have confidence in Quick's ability to stay healthy. They went out and got a goalie who's been very good, but also had a couple of injuries at key times himself. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 26, 2017 22:36:53 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how D, Erik Cernak, pans out ... he's only 19 but I've read some very positive stuff on him ...
Cheers.
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Post by Cranky on Feb 26, 2017 22:43:23 GMT -5
Call me crazy but....
If I had cheap Bishop deal I money hand, I would trade Price and Markov to Columbus for Seth Jones and Boone Jenner.
Why? Because we don't know if Price will resign and the additions would offset any downgrade from Price. Columbus can have their Cup and we have a pair of young stars for the future.
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Post by blny on Feb 26, 2017 23:06:30 GMT -5
Call me crazy but.... If I had cheap Bishop deal I money hand, I would trade Price and Markov to Columbus for Seth Jones and Boone Jenner. Why? Because we don't know if Price will resign and the additions would offset any downgrade from Price. Columbus can have their Cup and we have a pair of young stars for the future. I've contemplated similar scenarios on the basis that I think Bishop will cost less. Boone Jenner wouldn't be the forward I'd go after. I'd want Wennberg. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 27, 2017 2:49:38 GMT -5
Call me crazy but.... If I had cheap Bishop deal I money hand, I would trade Price and Markov to Columbus for Seth Jones and Boone Jenner. Why? Because we don't know if Price will resign and the additions would offset any downgrade from Price. Columbus can have their Cup and we have a pair of young stars for the future. Columbus has Bobrovsky. Not quite Price IMO, but up there in goalie talent. |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 27, 2017 5:09:57 GMT -5
Bullet dodged. Sweet lord the price they paid for him. Those many picks must be in the bad '17 draft? Seems high but not much talent available |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 27, 2017 5:13:33 GMT -5
Call me crazy but.... If I had cheap Bishop deal I money hand, I would trade Price and Markov to Columbus for Seth Jones and Boone Jenner. Why? Because we don't know if Price will resign and the additions would offset any downgrade from Price. Columbus can have their Cup and we have a pair of young stars for the future. Why would Columbus want Price? They have great goalie. Plus, east opponet...could be playoff matchup. Price may be traded but imagine be in summer. I have idea Bergs knows now his injury wasn't reason for collapse last year, he will fetch huge return and shown now can win with average goalie. |
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Post by PTH on Feb 27, 2017 8:33:08 GMT -5
Call me crazy but.... If I had cheap Bishop deal I money hand, I would trade Price and Markov to Columbus for Seth Jones and Boone Jenner. Why? Because we don't know if Price will resign and the additions would offset any downgrade from Price. Columbus can have their Cup and we have a pair of young stars for the future. I've contemplated similar scenarios on the basis that I think Bishop will cost less. Boone Jenner wouldn't be the forward I'd go after. I'd want Wennberg. Fact is, it's so hard to put together one deal, putting together the two you have in mind, taking into account NTC and NMC, it would be very risky to have it all fall apart on us and have a Price who knows he was asked to waive for a trade and wants out. |
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 8:40:43 GMT -5
Sens are adding Chris DiDomenico to their roster with a retroactive deal for this season. Drafted in the 6th round by the Leafs in 2007, he'd been playing in the Swiss League for a number of years. Boucher is very familiar with him as a result. DiDomenico will have to clear waivers because he's a mid season signing.
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 14:50:05 GMT -5
Wild and Yotes at it again ...
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 15:48:44 GMT -5
Don't know anything about Byron Froese.
Edit: 25 year old journeyman. Apparently played 56 of his 58 NHL games for the Leafs last year.
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Post by franko on Feb 27, 2017 15:59:05 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 16:00:48 GMT -5
Not the first to ask that question. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 27, 2017 16:14:51 GMT -5
The games on the weekend showed that the Leafs were weaker at the centre spot than they thought. I guess Matthews and Kadri aren't enough.
I asked myself the same question, why? Boyle is a UFA after this season so this is obviously a rental. The upside is that the Leafs make the playoffs and it's not costing them much. I suspect it's $$ talking here and that the focus has changed slightly from peaking in 2 or 3 years, to generating some extra revenue now. So, perhaps they're deviating from that long term plan of theirs of sucking for a while and then succeeding brilliantly. As was said on the board last year, the Leafs organization was looking really good because they were doing the easy part...the teardown of the existing structure. The hard part is building it back up and they seemed to be very disciplined about doing so. Marner, Matthews, Nylander. Looking good. But they still have weaknesses at the back end and their goaltending, while better than in the past, still is a question mark to me, especially playoff wise. Andersen has let the pressure get to him in the past. Anyway, now they're into the hard part....putting together pieces to build a winner and adding Boyle to me is a step back. Sure, he'll help them win a few more face-offs, and help the 4th line not get dominated....for a couple of months. Do they keep him afterward? Do they use up that CAP space they've been adding to? It just seems a stopgap measure which will hurt them in the long run. Odd decision. But maybe the fan base wants a playoff series, and the braintrust wants to give their youngsters playoff experience. Still, what if they just miss the playoffs?
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 16:15:54 GMT -5
Not sure yet what's going to Vancouver, but Burrows has waived his NTC and signed a deal with the Sens.
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